How do you feel the tech adds help Rebecca’s bad matchups? I agree aramaki and harjudin def help by luffy, but how do you play vs enel and lucci?
@the_lord_nickКүн бұрын
So the addition of Hajrudin and Aramaki are not necessarily for those two match ups, the hajrudin could be argued that it does give the deck options to deal with 8 drops and 9 drops in both decks. As for aramaki he is a solid blocker that can save you from a 7 drop enel turn. But both cards are added for other matchups though, they mainly help in BY luffy and law actually. Both cards are too high for Law to leader ability easily and both assist in removing characters from his board state. I didn't make specific techs for Lucci or Enel initially, I didn't see either as bad match ups, I have changed my opinion on Lucci, but that was just after playing into it more I realized that both Becca and Lucci are a little swingy in consistency so the match up is more who gets the sabos down at the right time to just wreck the other in tempo. As for Enel I still think it is Rebecca favored as the main strat is to otk them, so leaving them at two life whenever we can and focusing on clearing board and trying to tear at their hand in the process is generally your route to victory.
@terrydactyl6893Күн бұрын
@@the_lord_nick Ty for detailed reply! Yea i have found the lucci matchup to be very similair in that it feels a little random. My go to for lucci is to try and bait cards out of hand and starve life for a otk. Sometimes if they get enough morias it just feels impossible to keep up. On Enel I tech puddings to make it easier as I always thought it was unfavored. I try to take early life so gedatsu and yamato have less impact, but the main issue is always katakuri. If they save that for the 7 drop luffy I feel like its really hard to make a comeback. Still I'm excited to test more and will def subscribe to come back and see your future lists!
@freakyfries8376 күн бұрын
Have u tested against law and lucci?
@the_lord_nick6 күн бұрын
The law matchup is worse than other lists I have made mainly due to having less 6 and 5 Don turn options. As for the Lucci this list and the other Rebecca lists I have built all seem to body Lucci, because of kyros his luccis don’t clear as easily and it becomes a massive pain ping card for him, add Aramarki bottom decking meaningful cards like Lucci and sabo and it just feels oppressive.
@the_lord_nick6 күн бұрын
The law matchup is still not that bad, the addition of Sanji for law gave it more survival options vs Rebecca and I haven’t had enough time to figure good solutions for it. Might try out Garp from st6 to see if he is a good enough addition.
@freakyfries8376 күн бұрын
Thanks a lot bro i appreciated 😉
@kobiiscoolerthanyou78778 күн бұрын
Nick, im wondering what you think about the 1c patch work event for rebecca? I normality run four in all of my decks
@the_lord_nick8 күн бұрын
I think it’s a great card! That being said, I haven’t tested it a lot as of late but will probably try it out in place of tempest kicks in some of my lists and see if the searchablity out weighs the card replacement of its counter part.
@MikeSchoen8 күн бұрын
I love these lists, including Sabo is great. I wish he had Dressrosa typing but he still fills a good boss monster role. Including Moria always feels like too much change to what the deck does well, even though he’s a great card.
@the_lord_nick8 күн бұрын
I agree a ton! I loved the concept of Moria in Rebecca but he forces the deck to play around him and essentially I find myself changing the deck into a Saka list and it defeats the purpose of what Rebecca is good at
@the_lord_nick8 күн бұрын
In case you are new to the channel, subscriptions are greatly appreciated! Other than that if you like it leave a like and no matter how you feel leave a comment! Feedback is appreciated and different takes are always good for adjusting my points of view!
@Logix61910 күн бұрын
against lucci you gotta be careful for the nightmare luffy since its trash not KO
@the_lord_nick10 күн бұрын
I appreciate the heads up, though I prefer it being trashed to being bottom-decked.
@the_lord_nick17 күн бұрын
In case you wanted to see my last update for EB01 list, I made some last-minute changes last Wednesday and went 3-0 at locals with it. Changes only happened because a friend beat me really badly the night before. onepiece-cardgame.dev/builder?d=2D4EB012(46-)41(39-4!794.02.14(82-4(83-2.84.93(90-3!921!933!96)54.12(88-4(91-)64!58!300(320)*4OP0-P1.!8%01.-)(!_
@BorgesTCG17 күн бұрын
No morias?
@the_lord_nick17 күн бұрын
@@BorgesTCG No, I removed them to have a stronger mid game because of the number of Laws I was running into. I also just wanted a more consistent deck and it felt that when I had Moria in the decklist I was actually less consistent because I couldn't search him and often he got milled from leader ability or rebecca searcher.
@Nothing-ll2sl17 күн бұрын
I have a few gripes with Cavendish: (1) it has no counter. The law matchup is so volatile that if you hold just a few bricks, it quickly turns over your head. Even in normal situations, you can gauge how far you've fallen behind in the that matchup by which 7c card you can afford (if it even changes the outcome). (2) it's too expensive. Arguably vs Law, you will have no prior setup - meaning you're swinging a raw 6/7 on curve (with no effect), and in those situations Luffy and Gravity Blade will present as better options. (3) compounding on all of these, is its power - 6K. The statline is far too fragile against Law, and it often felt like I spent a good chunk of my Don just for it to be Gordon'd and then bottomed after swinging once. I'm running Leo and noticed they have the same statline (1c 2K that becomes 6K after putting 4Don under it), I will try to keep in mind in my games if being able to swing at active characters for 6 Don changes anything.
@the_lord_nick17 күн бұрын
In my games cavendish has made a pretty big difference, both gravity blade and Luffy do make a massive impact against Law but they both cost seven which means they activate a turn later. And yes Cavendish does not always get to activate on his first attack to clear an additional character. But if Law has now used a Gordon it is less likely Luffy can be removed. On top of that Cavendish can still activate without a target which enables more cards to go to your trash and guarantee two Luffy swings the following turn. My current build for EB01 has been really consistent into Law because of Cavendish, Gyats, and Hajrudin. The list I posted here did remove both the Gyats and Hajrudins, which will weaken the match-up slightly, due to fewer counters being available but I think it is offset by how useful Sabo is on the 8 don turn. Cavendish is mainly a one-for-one removal card that forces immediate response, he also fuels our trash which sets up Kong Gun, Luffy, and Tempest Kicks. You can run the Leo, but the Cavendish adds repeated removal value over time and less don investment.
@BorgesTCG17 күн бұрын
Can u post your current list for EB? The last video is not like u said
@the_lord_nick17 күн бұрын
@@BorgesTCG that’s fair I made a last minute adjustment at locals due to a friend mollywaping me in playtest, I’ll drop an Egman site link here in a bit
@the_lord_nick17 күн бұрын
@@BorgesTCG Here is the decklist onepiece-cardgame.dev/builder?d=2D4EB012(46-)41(39-4!794.02.14(82-4(83-2.84.93(90-3!921!933!96)54.12(88-4(91-)64!58!300(320)*4OP0-P1.!8%01.-)(!_
@Nothing-ll2sl17 күн бұрын
@@the_lord_nick Luffy and Gravity Blade doesn't come a turn late at 7, Cavendish comes in too early and then too late. If you are going first, Law spreads on his 4 don and only swings his leader. Cavendish on 5 is a sitting duck if you summon him this turn as he cant attack active and will only end up getting removed while you get swarmed. If you're even, you're swinging a 7K on a potential Kid blocker which takes even more priority to remove vs building your trash. None of these are ideal lines when vs-ing Law.
@Spartanjohn9918 күн бұрын
What do you think of the new promo saka?
@the_lord_nick18 күн бұрын
I personally think he is pretty bad, not quite unplayable because you obviously have some very powerful cards that are strictly navy. But he can not filter like the old one and thus will need to play more than just 8 searchers.
@the_lord_nick18 күн бұрын
But he still has the potential to be good in the future if people take the time to build him and work out the kinks, I don't think it will be as OP as old Saka but he does have some potential to be decent because he is Blue/Black.
@Spartanjohn9918 күн бұрын
@@the_lord_nick i think there is something there with cards like pilaf. And jack in 08 helps the deck too i think
@hipbyte932618 күн бұрын
Get rid of tempest kick and replace it for 2 isho and 2 aramaki because once u have one on board it will make it harder for enel to attack and easier for u to KO or bottom deck. Replace all of ur 1 cost rebeccas for two 4 cost kuzans and two 4 cost puddings. Thes will be hella essential for the deck since pudding is a major game changer especially for law and gecko and enel. Kuzan is used as a second orlumpus since it minus 4 cost an opponent as well as drawing a card on play which another plus for we dont risk of trashing any issho's or any non dressrosa cards by using rebeccas leader ability. To add on more to that he can also be constantly drawn out by the 4 cost rebecca blocker. Those are the adjustments ill add since i also play rebecca
@hipbyte932618 күн бұрын
OPTIONAL : since there's no way in hell people are going to have a playset of secrete sabos u can substitute 2 of them for the 6 cost brook another perfect card to have since it places cards into trash so no worries about ko block effects and shit as well as it can be drawn from the blocker rebecca ability
@the_lord_nick18 күн бұрын
I’m going to hope this is a meme because my god these changes do nothing but hurt the deck horribly. Adding 4 8 cost cards in place of a 1 drop filter card that also reduces character cost and has a trigger makes no since. Removing the search for kuzan and pudding is close to being reasonable, but it makes orlumbus less consistent, it doesn’t fill up your trash as well and it reduces the amount of counter cards in the deck. Now replacing just tempest kicks with kuzans and puddings I could see, I don’t really like the need for them but it’s reasonable. The other four card changes are pointless, issho isn’t needed if you have puddings, Aramarki is good but if anything you take out the gravity blades for him in this list.
@the_lord_nick18 күн бұрын
It should be somewhat reasonable, he shouldn’t be a Katakuri costing secret, almost no list I have seen for Lucci or Gecko Moria are choosing to run him, also ace is the more hunted secret so I expect Sabo will be pretty cheap after the first week or two
@the_lord_nick18 күн бұрын
All the cards you want to change you could but I do think you are taking out the wrong cards for them and I would recommend not including the isshos but instead using gecko morias. I have another list I can post for you that revolves around aramaki as one of the top-end win conditions.
@hipbyte932618 күн бұрын
@the_lord_nick One of the reasons for issho is because he is like a mini pudding, so it can throw of ur opponent a bit off but mainly for his ability for -3 cost every card in field. Now pair that with aramaki now u are buttoming 5 cost and pair that with other cards that minus toy soilder,arlumbus,kuzan,etc. Buttoming everything that's on board. And for ur trashing cards concern. You will be perfectly fine because rebecca ability trashes one card automatically, and aramaki ability trashes a card. The same goes for orlumbus,kyros,toy soilder,sab cav, and so on
@Rayvos1218 күн бұрын
Unfortunatly Enel has an easy way to 100% win this match up especially with so few Luffy : starvation into 8 costs katas -> luffies in the life will win him the game. Do you have something to prevent that ?
@the_lord_nick18 күн бұрын
He can’t really starve you, you draw at least two cards a turn and clear his board pretty much none stop. While yes he can hold katas for Luffy, he then won’t be able to deal with Sabo super easily. If you find that your local meta is a lot of Enel’s or the competitive meta is a lot more enel you can drop the two gravity blades for another luffy and a Kong gun to give you a better chance in that matchup, or two more luffys if you prefer.
@the_lord_nick18 күн бұрын
As for deck as is, kyros is once again our lead man, he is nearly impossible for enel to remove without kataing him into life, thus it sounds weird but establishing two kyros early is a good way to eat his cards early on. He will have to answer with a kata or swinging into you, if he can only develop 1 body a turn that is great and if you get to the point of multiple Sabos in hand and have the cost reduction ready don’t be afraid to 1 for one with him. Sabo naturally hitting 5 costs is really good and makes clearing big characters quite easy
@Rayvos1218 күн бұрын
I hear what you say but by starvation I mean 2 luffies in life and then let you deck out ! That's always what happens when I play test against Enel (or Kata, but Kata is not relevant in op7)
@the_lord_nick18 күн бұрын
@@Rayvos12 You have two copies of mansherry, as long as you put one to bottom with Luffy and make sure not to mill both, you won't deck out persay, though you will run really low on cards.
@the_lord_nick18 күн бұрын
But yeah if you are really worried about this, add in two copies of Luffy over the gravity blades and you should be fine
@nxkyyz19 күн бұрын
Liked so I can support both Becca and another Nick!
@MikeSchoen19 күн бұрын
Glad to see someone else in the same locals scene as me also playing Rebecca :D
@the_lord_nick19 күн бұрын
What shops do you play at? I've been on Rebecca since late 04, I hang mainly at GK and Pixelhaven
@MikeSchoen18 күн бұрын
@@the_lord_nick I’m almost always at Mothership, though I do go to Pixelhaven sometimes for things like pre releases.
@MikeSchoen18 күн бұрын
I’m normally at Mothership on Tuesdays but occasionally make it down to Pixelhaven for things like prerelease events!
@aimysteriesofficial20 күн бұрын
Hey! I run a similar list, agree on the gravity blades, but no Scarlett? Moria with Scarlett is pretty good.
@the_lord_nick20 күн бұрын
I was enjoying some of the plays I could do with Scarlett but Helmeppo became more useful on his own because he enables Kyros to clear 4 costs. There are a ton of Law players at my locals and thus I have teched a little more for that matchup with this list.
@FlyingCakeTv23 күн бұрын
Maybe upload some more meta deck games to see how much hard it is to play this deck against Enel,Law, Gecko, B/Y Luffy
@the_lord_nick22 күн бұрын
I want to but, my time is relatively limited for editing, I have attempted to post for specific matchups on the sim, but when people see you are Rebecca asking for matchups many of them leave as they also want meta matchups so I am at the mercy of randomly finding opponents most of the time. This means it will take me forever to hit these games and I just don't have the time to do that at the moment.
@the_lord_nick22 күн бұрын
I do plan to post a guide to these matchups soon and give my opinion on win ratio to each of the top four decks.
@Spartanjohn9921 күн бұрын
@@the_lord_nickdo ranked they dont have a choice
@joecooper852721 күн бұрын
Very understandable.
@the_lord_nick21 күн бұрын
@@Spartanjohn99I'll give it a shot last times I played it the queues were long and had issues with someone not connecting to the room
@PattysCards23 күн бұрын
Nice breakdown!
@the_lord_nick23 күн бұрын
Thank you! i try my best lol
@Desaya42 ай бұрын
It would be cool to see the last Rebecca build played on sim, great video!
@mahinazwad30222 ай бұрын
Nice gameplay 👍
@captivat32 ай бұрын
Really cool stuff! Do you try to do leader effect every turn with this list? Looks like you’d whiff pretty often? Would love to see your eb01 build I assume you’re using scarlet?
@the_lord_nick2 ай бұрын
So for hero ability, I use it more late game, but also anytime I can and have the extra don unless I am against Gecko and then you only want to use it when you are going to play enough cards to keep you at 4 in hand, don't want their peronas doing anything. As for the EB01 build I do use scarlet and the Luccis are gone, the build will be out in a few weeks and is based on a build I saw on VVTheory's video about OP 6.5 Rebecca, I just changed a few cards in it.
@Spartanjohn994 ай бұрын
I think hina over rebecca and gekko is better as then the shitty black decks still have access to those cards
@the_lord_nick4 ай бұрын
I believe that access to Rebecca and Gekko is necessary as they are the only real payoffs of the black self milling contingency the removal black has is far less valuable then the cost for said removal if there isn’t someway to net some advantage later.
@taylorallen10264 ай бұрын
How do I get everyone at locals to watch this? Hahahah
@lewispayne43014 ай бұрын
Promo SM
@thetruthtrucking4 ай бұрын
you're missing some cavendish
@the_lord_nick4 ай бұрын
Dude I want cavendish to work so badly, the space just isn’t there. The spot would be the one Leo is in, but Leo has the upside of costing one for the effect and it is on play, cavendish will either cost 5 if they have a rested character or 6 if they don’t, while he threatens two characters it isn’t until later in the game and I have cards that do that pressure without having to be able to attack. I love Cavendish but, as an option right now he is worse than Lucci so unless Lucci gets hit after worlds I probably won’t have him in my lists(unless I am trying some new spice).
@thetruthtrucking4 ай бұрын
@@the_lord_nick Rebecca doesn’t need lucci I had kata against my brother playing Rebeca it didn’t matter how many 10 moms I played I destroyed me
@the_lord_nick4 ай бұрын
I mean lucci doesn't change you match up into yellow much, but cavendish isn't just better in that match up, they do similar things but lucci can hit a cost higher target and does it for cheaper so he is just more efficient @@thetruthtrucking
@grayhunter79454 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you said pluffy and saka is easier than enel and kata for me its the complete opposite and the only difference in your list and mine is lucci and leo for trueno and koby
@the_lord_nick4 ай бұрын
No matter how much I test yellow has felt near impossible for me to beat, I usually can put value an opponent by late game but yellow has a plethora of large cards and don’t really run out of cards. It feels like i need more early pressure to have a shot of rushing them out but that build feels mediocre against matchups where as this one sacs the yellow match up and does really good into most others.
@yugio344 ай бұрын
You really don't like trueno bastardo ? Great video thanks for introducing me to this deck, tons of fun
@the_lord_nick4 ай бұрын
So I like trueno but right now not developing a body is rough at least on curve. In late game it’s a good option but if I draw it early it’s a card that sits in my hand forever or becomes a sabo target thus I value having better combo removal pieces like Leo
@masonsayama45454 ай бұрын
Love the hound blaze in there, I too have tried using it But I hate that I have to hard draw or hope it's in life. Just waiting for good blue dressrosa cards or B/Y kyros
@the_lord_nick4 ай бұрын
Yeah it sucks a little that you have to draw it but this list burns through the deck super fast so you can stack the bottom of your deck and have a pretty good chance of seeing those cards so if you can keep track of the order you put to the bottom you can plan to see it.
@loganhhs20105 ай бұрын
How does Elizabello do in the face of all the bounce in the format? Hound blaze, three thousand swords and red roc all easily remove him. Seems rough.
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
It can be rough, but you are not placing elizabello early, by the time you are preparing to use him decks like Sakazuki are usually out of hound blazes and borsalinos thanks to kyros, 4 drop borsalino and previous sabo turns
@loganhhs20105 ай бұрын
@the_lord_nick okay, last minute play after removal is gone. Thanks.
@Beasty-tg8ir5 ай бұрын
Deck list ?
@jenostheascended78185 ай бұрын
While we can all agree these decks are really strong this way of "fixing them" just seems very naive. Just killing top ends doesn't help the game in any way, it just forces everyone into the same play style. How is a deck ever supposed to compete with the consistency of something like Zoro, RG Law and others if we gut their late game. We went through months of brainless aggro meta, and 1 month into the healthiest format we've ever had everyone is just going crazy. Saka doesn't need any hit until 06 for sure, the deck is very fragile, and while it's the most consistent deck in the meta, every other meta deck can beat it on a good hand. Now some cards just need to go, not because of their power necessarily, but because of their effect on the game. 10 mom is so easy to find, it has 2 different searchers as well as other means of fixing your hand, she also has no counterplay pretty much, it's a +2 on life, 2 of these in a row is so oppressive that I think even leaving 2 of her might be too much. Yamato is way more balanced and so is katakuri, they're flexible but you can play around Yamato so that she doesn't heal/remove based on your priorities, same with Kata as you can remove their body to prevent healing. The strength of cards by themselves is almost never an issue, they will be surpassed and answers will be discovered or printed eventually. The only real reason to touch anything would be uninteractive gameplay (such as Nami) or effects that are so efficient that they just win you the game with no counterplay such as the WB stage. Overall Bandai has done a great job so far as we can see from the diversity at the nationals in recent weeks, it's not easy to create such a balanced meta while also allowing rogue options to perform well into it.
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
It's not a fix because the game is in a horrendously unbalanced state, it's a fix for making the game more fun and widening the options even more. Limiting top-end cards to 2 of each stops the issue of being able to drop game-altering cards like 10 drop moms on repeat, or dropping 9 beards every turn for multiple turns in a row. The repetitive aspects of these cards make them so unfun and unfair, I agree. But limiting them to two does hit their consistency with searchers and limits the number of games in which these cards can be seen back to back. Now you could argue that it is just 9 and 10 drops that need this hit and I can see a reason behind it but, I was also looking at this monetarily and a decrease in the number of Katas you can run would probably help reduce his price a considerable amount. If a meta is truly balanced, everything is viable and everything has a meta deck. This is unobtainable and unrealistic, but the current meta you are correct in stating is very balanced compared to sets 1-4 here in the West. But that doesn't mean outliers don't occur, it's pretty obvious that Sakazuki and the yellow decks are the biggest outliers. Conversion percentage across big tournaments is highest among these decks by a large margin. Thus you don't need to gut them in a way that completely kills them, but tuning them down might not be a bad option. I am not claiming my fixes are perfect, they are an opinion piece from my perspective and from my knowledge. I am looking at this from a consumer viewpoint and two of the most important factors from that viewpoint would be accessibility to these cards(most singles are ok price-wise, 9 Beard is a little high and Katakuri is out of control but these are outliers) and from enjoyability. Balance would be a tertiary objective as a meta can be balanced and yet very unfun or frustrating to play in, many people would state this meta is at least somewhat frustrating. The only decks I personally have a vendetta against are Enel and Kata, I think their top end is too consistent and they have too many ways to maintain a winning board state that forces every opponent to have to play their strategy. As consistent as Sakazuki is at controlling and recurring value, he can run into issues with maintaining cards in hand to have a defense. So personally I have fewer issues with him and think personally he doesn't need any changes but for the sake of having an optional change the one in my video would be how I would approach it. Hopefully, this clears up the reason I decided to make this video and why I will standby my opinion as to why a change to the state of top-end cards is potentially needed and why a change to black could allow for continued diversity into the next couple months/sets.
@jenostheascended78185 ай бұрын
@@the_lord_nick Completely agree with accessibility, pretty much every card in Sakazuki needs a reprint. I think I approached this purely as a matter of competitive integrity, and aside from a bit too much rng on yellow's side this format is fantastic. I see that the game could be more fun in some aspects with your proposed solution. I also think that we could have a fun format where every card is limited to 1. Anyways I hope I didn't come off too aggressive in the first comment, I also hate Katakuri and to a lesser extent Enel, but I think hitting an entire playstyle because of a couple decks feels wrong. I think bandai has kept track of the meta and done a good job so far with fixes, as well as giving every deck/playstyle their time to shine, I trust them to find a fix for these and I will keep waking up every morning hoping that 10Mom is banned/restricted.
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
I understand mate, look I get passionate about things too and it seemed like you were trying to a make a well thought out critic of my video and I appreciate it. I also appreciate the follow up, I like knowing from what angle people are approaching a topic because that matters greatly in terms of how they will perceive a viewpoint/arguement. I have learned to hate 10 drop mom, but I think if too much power is taken straight from yellow or saka then we will see the return of the red scourge. The limiting on top end puts us closer to the previous restrictions we had on Whitebeard but also hits Ace and a couple of other potent top end bombs. I think there is definitely a more finesseful way of approaching it and I trust Bandai will find that way. Despite my grievances with certain decks and matchups the game is easily in it's best state so far and I have nothing but excitement for upcoming sets. I would prefer they print more tech cards to deal with these issues opposed to restricting but the fastest and easiest fix is to remove something.@@jenostheascended7818
@yugisuzi5 ай бұрын
BANDAI HIRE HIM
@yugisuzi5 ай бұрын
HUGE W
@chic74895 ай бұрын
Ngl, ppl are sleeping on patch work, I added to my Rebecca version and it is doing pretty well, going to the European championship with it tomorrow, I hope I can get a few wins
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
I’ve been loving the card and want to find a way to slot it up to three on my current list but it’s been kind of difficult. Let me know how you do at EU Championship, would love to hear about the wins you get!
@shanthewan52115 ай бұрын
decklist?
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
It’s in my other video, it’s the OTK deck tech video
@Grumbo-5 ай бұрын
Not otk
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
It is an otk list, and the name of the video is just in reference to the list in the deck tech(the video this was released with). I didn't go for the OTK in the Saka matchup because it would have given my opponent an extra turn to rebuild and claw his way back in. As for the enel game we just didn't see the otk pieces
@PandasizeD5 ай бұрын
WE LOVE ELIZABELLOOOOOO
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
Yes we do!
@schuylerfacker73765 ай бұрын
This deck has the sauce.
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
You know it, this list has been really fun to play and is fast becoming one of my favorite variations thus far
@lucasrukavina76945 ай бұрын
Idk if i would call a game in which you control the board and slowly outvalue your opponent a "Explosive OTK" xD
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
The game wasn’t the deck does run it, sadly never popped up in my example games lol
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
But you do got to clickbait sometimes lol
@grayhunter79455 ай бұрын
I find the Enel easy compared to katakuri and saka as well. I just remove board over and over and keep them at 2 life until I have 4 swings to win the game. My endboard is usually luffy, kyros, orlumbus, plus any blockers I put up sabo or Rebecca
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
I actually prefer Saka matchup to enel, I think my worst matchup is Enel.
@grayhunter79455 ай бұрын
@@the_lord_nick my worst match up is purple luffy I've lost to them the most out of all the meta decks irl and ranked sim
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
@@grayhunter7945 man you and I have had major difference in experience, of the meta decks I destroy saka and pluffy but I have a 50/50 with kata and I lose almost 80% of my enel games lol
@grayhunter79455 ай бұрын
@@the_lord_nick Op5 meta has been a sack fest for me either I sack my opponents or they sack me lol. I'm surprised you aren't having trouble against pluffy or saka. I recently added hound blaze so maybe I'll have a better time against them.
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
Hound blaze has been a very strong card, if you have orlumbus it is essentially a more efficient three thousand worlds that also buffs an attacker which is huge, this means a kyros gets a more guaranteed tempo on life or you can clear another character. With one legged soldier it is a two card investment for three thousand worlds plus 3k attack. The cost of two cards also isn't a big deal as you need more in your trash to activate luffys or elizibellos and a plethora of other cards. As for the match up into saka just play it calmly, force him to need hound blazes or 7 drop borsalinos, your deck digs faster and deeper than his if you can maintain the battle of attrition you generally win late.@@grayhunter7945
@ForceM17825 ай бұрын
Very impressive against the Saka. At the end i would have replaced the Mansherry instead of the Kyros tbh. Since he had the Tsurus. Other than that, this was just perfect play imho! 👍
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
At that point I was pretty sure I had the win but I replaced the kyros because mansherry is a target he can swing into to kill and this might convince him to avoid my face and give me a chance to survive if I didn’t get through somehow. Also I can reanimate the kyros with a Rebecca and can’t as easily get mansherry back
@jean-michelmichaud25845 ай бұрын
I mean sure you don't like sakalucci but are playing 80% the saem decklist? it's just a worse version.
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
I don't dislike sakazuki at all, I just enjoy Rebecca a lot and am trying to figure out her best list into the meta decks. Also if there is a lot of Sakazuki's floating around Rebecca is a good match up into him, she wins that match up about 80% of the time from my own testing across multiple lists. She is worse vs yellow but yellow is just a hard matchup for everyone right now.
@Jogiking5 ай бұрын
@@the_lord_nickwhat is your gameplan against Sakazuki? It feels kinda hard for me to remove his chars :)
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
The gameplan is play the attrition war, he wants to play a removal game and so do the builds I make for rebecca. The big advantage we have in this game state is that we draw two cards a turn most of the time and he only draws one. Outside of that develop an early attacker like a kyros or borsalino blocker(in this match up he is an attacker if we have another blocker in hand) that have to be bounced and cant be ko'd in combat without multiple attacks or don investments, this will cost him the ability to develop a board state as easily and have to keep digging for hound blazes. Poke with this one character while you take turns removing each others boards, tax counters out of his hands with this attacks and force him to have to rebuild every turn and you will win in late.@@Jogiking
@Jogiking5 ай бұрын
@@the_lord_nick Wow! Thank you for the detailed answer! very helpful indeed :) so would you say that the extra draw is almost mandatory? i played rebecca for the first time yesterday at locals and lost to sakazuki because i thought to myself to better play the aggressive part and went first to get out a kyros turn 2, sadly saw no rebecca searcher and he managed to hound blaze two of my kyros right after playing them so i wanted to study the matchups right after! you have been helping me tremendously with your videos so far, please keep up with the amazing work :)
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
Happy I could help, don't worry about having to beat him early, you have a strong late game and the advantage you have is that you always get two cards a turn for 1 don meanwhile he has to cycle cards or use more don for that extra card. Maintain as much board threat as you can, one of the key cards in the matchup is sabo because it makes it very difficult for him to clear a board that can't be ko'd@@Jogiking
@florianb55485 ай бұрын
Interesting decklist. Iam really looking forward to see what this is capable of 🎉
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
This particular list went 2 and 2 at two locals and had an online winrate around 55% (6wins and 5 loses, mixed opponents most wins were against sakazuki), all and all not a bad last but I am still brewing and have another list I played being showcased Thursday, it's a bit more of a for fun list though it has a better win rate than this one.
@florianb55485 ай бұрын
I see. Happy to see the games on Thursday 🥳
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
I'll probably record some of my games Wednesday and post them in tandem with the decklist, the current video doesn't have some gameplay with it, do have a stream vod with some of the games from Monday though!@@florianb5548
@tyresewallace91465 ай бұрын
Yellow matchuo feels much easier now tbh
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
It's playable now, we have options to deal with some of their early board if they play a threat a turn, that being said late game is still favored to yellow most of the time unless we can develop two blockers a turn and keep two big threats at their life. Katakuri and Mom are easier than Enel for sure, Enel has become my kryptonite.
@tyresewallace91465 ай бұрын
@@the_lord_nick pretty much best a kat by just looping blockers and killing all Thier 10 moms. I've learned in the match up I'll just give them a life until I'm in control of the board. My build is similar but I run luccis and hound blaze for a bit more removal utility
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
I moved to a different list than this video, I have been playing roughly 20-30 games of Rebecca each week testing what works the best and I came to the conclusion that 4 houndblaze is just better than three thousand worlds cause the tempo it develops as well as 3 kyros over the lucci as he is just harder to get rid of. My list I ran to locals this week was a bit on the spicy side cause I removed the luffys and added a different otk that caught some people off guard.@@tyresewallace9146
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
Edits in Post: Dragon's Claw does not have a trigger, I didn't realize this from my own testing at locals because I never hit it out of life and must of overlooked the missing text box for a trigger. Disregard the advocacy of this card as an out of life trigger bomb, it is still a very good card just not as good as the sim makes it out to be.
@rejackted49665 ай бұрын
dragon claw isnt actually supposed to have a trigger
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
You are correct, I never realized this in person as I never had it come out of life, curious why it has such a powerful effect on the sim.
@VerdekomBR5 ай бұрын
Interesting deck, do u plan to mix a little of black and red? Like playing black and red finishers
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
So there are a few builds floating around that mix the two and honestly the black core with rush zoros and rush luffys is actually pretty dang strong, I would avoid mixing the two types of removal but the generically strong cards are fair game
@emank445 ай бұрын
I just subbed grats on the 100 :)
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
thank you i really appreciate it!
@beams0985 ай бұрын
Who tf is saka
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
Sakazuki, Saka for short
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
AKA Akainu
@beams0985 ай бұрын
@@the_lord_nick when was he ever called saka? Im so confused
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
If your looking for show references Issho calls him Saka once or twice in Dressrosa, otherwise people just short hand call him that instead of saying Sakazuki @@beams098
@fallinghope75 ай бұрын
How dose it fair against the Katakuri match up?
@the_lord_nick5 ай бұрын
So far I am 5-2 VS Kata, 3 of those wins the Kata has played multiple 10 Drop Big Moms and can't find ways to deal with my blockers, there will be another video this week on Thursday that shows match ups vs "Saka"(he quits during the match), Vivi and Linlin, also going to be streaming today some ranked queue to see how she does against some more consistent opponents.
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How do you feel the tech adds help Rebecca’s bad matchups? I agree aramaki and harjudin def help by luffy, but how do you play vs enel and lucci?
So the addition of Hajrudin and Aramaki are not necessarily for those two match ups, the hajrudin could be argued that it does give the deck options to deal with 8 drops and 9 drops in both decks. As for aramaki he is a solid blocker that can save you from a 7 drop enel turn. But both cards are added for other matchups though, they mainly help in BY luffy and law actually. Both cards are too high for Law to leader ability easily and both assist in removing characters from his board state. I didn't make specific techs for Lucci or Enel initially, I didn't see either as bad match ups, I have changed my opinion on Lucci, but that was just after playing into it more I realized that both Becca and Lucci are a little swingy in consistency so the match up is more who gets the sabos down at the right time to just wreck the other in tempo. As for Enel I still think it is Rebecca favored as the main strat is to otk them, so leaving them at two life whenever we can and focusing on clearing board and trying to tear at their hand in the process is generally your route to victory.
@@the_lord_nick Ty for detailed reply! Yea i have found the lucci matchup to be very similair in that it feels a little random. My go to for lucci is to try and bait cards out of hand and starve life for a otk. Sometimes if they get enough morias it just feels impossible to keep up. On Enel I tech puddings to make it easier as I always thought it was unfavored. I try to take early life so gedatsu and yamato have less impact, but the main issue is always katakuri. If they save that for the 7 drop luffy I feel like its really hard to make a comeback. Still I'm excited to test more and will def subscribe to come back and see your future lists!
Have u tested against law and lucci?
The law matchup is worse than other lists I have made mainly due to having less 6 and 5 Don turn options. As for the Lucci this list and the other Rebecca lists I have built all seem to body Lucci, because of kyros his luccis don’t clear as easily and it becomes a massive pain ping card for him, add Aramarki bottom decking meaningful cards like Lucci and sabo and it just feels oppressive.
The law matchup is still not that bad, the addition of Sanji for law gave it more survival options vs Rebecca and I haven’t had enough time to figure good solutions for it. Might try out Garp from st6 to see if he is a good enough addition.
Thanks a lot bro i appreciated 😉
Nick, im wondering what you think about the 1c patch work event for rebecca? I normality run four in all of my decks
I think it’s a great card! That being said, I haven’t tested it a lot as of late but will probably try it out in place of tempest kicks in some of my lists and see if the searchablity out weighs the card replacement of its counter part.
I love these lists, including Sabo is great. I wish he had Dressrosa typing but he still fills a good boss monster role. Including Moria always feels like too much change to what the deck does well, even though he’s a great card.
I agree a ton! I loved the concept of Moria in Rebecca but he forces the deck to play around him and essentially I find myself changing the deck into a Saka list and it defeats the purpose of what Rebecca is good at
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against lucci you gotta be careful for the nightmare luffy since its trash not KO
I appreciate the heads up, though I prefer it being trashed to being bottom-decked.
In case you wanted to see my last update for EB01 list, I made some last-minute changes last Wednesday and went 3-0 at locals with it. Changes only happened because a friend beat me really badly the night before. onepiece-cardgame.dev/builder?d=2D4EB012(46-)41(39-4!794.02.14(82-4(83-2.84.93(90-3!921!933!96)54.12(88-4(91-)64!58!300(320)*4OP0-P1.!8%01.-)(!_
No morias?
@@BorgesTCG No, I removed them to have a stronger mid game because of the number of Laws I was running into. I also just wanted a more consistent deck and it felt that when I had Moria in the decklist I was actually less consistent because I couldn't search him and often he got milled from leader ability or rebecca searcher.
I have a few gripes with Cavendish: (1) it has no counter. The law matchup is so volatile that if you hold just a few bricks, it quickly turns over your head. Even in normal situations, you can gauge how far you've fallen behind in the that matchup by which 7c card you can afford (if it even changes the outcome). (2) it's too expensive. Arguably vs Law, you will have no prior setup - meaning you're swinging a raw 6/7 on curve (with no effect), and in those situations Luffy and Gravity Blade will present as better options. (3) compounding on all of these, is its power - 6K. The statline is far too fragile against Law, and it often felt like I spent a good chunk of my Don just for it to be Gordon'd and then bottomed after swinging once. I'm running Leo and noticed they have the same statline (1c 2K that becomes 6K after putting 4Don under it), I will try to keep in mind in my games if being able to swing at active characters for 6 Don changes anything.
In my games cavendish has made a pretty big difference, both gravity blade and Luffy do make a massive impact against Law but they both cost seven which means they activate a turn later. And yes Cavendish does not always get to activate on his first attack to clear an additional character. But if Law has now used a Gordon it is less likely Luffy can be removed. On top of that Cavendish can still activate without a target which enables more cards to go to your trash and guarantee two Luffy swings the following turn. My current build for EB01 has been really consistent into Law because of Cavendish, Gyats, and Hajrudin. The list I posted here did remove both the Gyats and Hajrudins, which will weaken the match-up slightly, due to fewer counters being available but I think it is offset by how useful Sabo is on the 8 don turn. Cavendish is mainly a one-for-one removal card that forces immediate response, he also fuels our trash which sets up Kong Gun, Luffy, and Tempest Kicks. You can run the Leo, but the Cavendish adds repeated removal value over time and less don investment.
Can u post your current list for EB? The last video is not like u said
@@BorgesTCG that’s fair I made a last minute adjustment at locals due to a friend mollywaping me in playtest, I’ll drop an Egman site link here in a bit
@@BorgesTCG Here is the decklist onepiece-cardgame.dev/builder?d=2D4EB012(46-)41(39-4!794.02.14(82-4(83-2.84.93(90-3!921!933!96)54.12(88-4(91-)64!58!300(320)*4OP0-P1.!8%01.-)(!_
@@the_lord_nick Luffy and Gravity Blade doesn't come a turn late at 7, Cavendish comes in too early and then too late. If you are going first, Law spreads on his 4 don and only swings his leader. Cavendish on 5 is a sitting duck if you summon him this turn as he cant attack active and will only end up getting removed while you get swarmed. If you're even, you're swinging a 7K on a potential Kid blocker which takes even more priority to remove vs building your trash. None of these are ideal lines when vs-ing Law.
What do you think of the new promo saka?
I personally think he is pretty bad, not quite unplayable because you obviously have some very powerful cards that are strictly navy. But he can not filter like the old one and thus will need to play more than just 8 searchers.
But he still has the potential to be good in the future if people take the time to build him and work out the kinks, I don't think it will be as OP as old Saka but he does have some potential to be decent because he is Blue/Black.
@@the_lord_nick i think there is something there with cards like pilaf. And jack in 08 helps the deck too i think
Get rid of tempest kick and replace it for 2 isho and 2 aramaki because once u have one on board it will make it harder for enel to attack and easier for u to KO or bottom deck. Replace all of ur 1 cost rebeccas for two 4 cost kuzans and two 4 cost puddings. Thes will be hella essential for the deck since pudding is a major game changer especially for law and gecko and enel. Kuzan is used as a second orlumpus since it minus 4 cost an opponent as well as drawing a card on play which another plus for we dont risk of trashing any issho's or any non dressrosa cards by using rebeccas leader ability. To add on more to that he can also be constantly drawn out by the 4 cost rebecca blocker. Those are the adjustments ill add since i also play rebecca
OPTIONAL : since there's no way in hell people are going to have a playset of secrete sabos u can substitute 2 of them for the 6 cost brook another perfect card to have since it places cards into trash so no worries about ko block effects and shit as well as it can be drawn from the blocker rebecca ability
I’m going to hope this is a meme because my god these changes do nothing but hurt the deck horribly. Adding 4 8 cost cards in place of a 1 drop filter card that also reduces character cost and has a trigger makes no since. Removing the search for kuzan and pudding is close to being reasonable, but it makes orlumbus less consistent, it doesn’t fill up your trash as well and it reduces the amount of counter cards in the deck. Now replacing just tempest kicks with kuzans and puddings I could see, I don’t really like the need for them but it’s reasonable. The other four card changes are pointless, issho isn’t needed if you have puddings, Aramarki is good but if anything you take out the gravity blades for him in this list.
It should be somewhat reasonable, he shouldn’t be a Katakuri costing secret, almost no list I have seen for Lucci or Gecko Moria are choosing to run him, also ace is the more hunted secret so I expect Sabo will be pretty cheap after the first week or two
All the cards you want to change you could but I do think you are taking out the wrong cards for them and I would recommend not including the isshos but instead using gecko morias. I have another list I can post for you that revolves around aramaki as one of the top-end win conditions.
@the_lord_nick One of the reasons for issho is because he is like a mini pudding, so it can throw of ur opponent a bit off but mainly for his ability for -3 cost every card in field. Now pair that with aramaki now u are buttoming 5 cost and pair that with other cards that minus toy soilder,arlumbus,kuzan,etc. Buttoming everything that's on board. And for ur trashing cards concern. You will be perfectly fine because rebecca ability trashes one card automatically, and aramaki ability trashes a card. The same goes for orlumbus,kyros,toy soilder,sab cav, and so on
Unfortunatly Enel has an easy way to 100% win this match up especially with so few Luffy : starvation into 8 costs katas -> luffies in the life will win him the game. Do you have something to prevent that ?
He can’t really starve you, you draw at least two cards a turn and clear his board pretty much none stop. While yes he can hold katas for Luffy, he then won’t be able to deal with Sabo super easily. If you find that your local meta is a lot of Enel’s or the competitive meta is a lot more enel you can drop the two gravity blades for another luffy and a Kong gun to give you a better chance in that matchup, or two more luffys if you prefer.
As for deck as is, kyros is once again our lead man, he is nearly impossible for enel to remove without kataing him into life, thus it sounds weird but establishing two kyros early is a good way to eat his cards early on. He will have to answer with a kata or swinging into you, if he can only develop 1 body a turn that is great and if you get to the point of multiple Sabos in hand and have the cost reduction ready don’t be afraid to 1 for one with him. Sabo naturally hitting 5 costs is really good and makes clearing big characters quite easy
I hear what you say but by starvation I mean 2 luffies in life and then let you deck out ! That's always what happens when I play test against Enel (or Kata, but Kata is not relevant in op7)
@@Rayvos12 You have two copies of mansherry, as long as you put one to bottom with Luffy and make sure not to mill both, you won't deck out persay, though you will run really low on cards.
But yeah if you are really worried about this, add in two copies of Luffy over the gravity blades and you should be fine
Liked so I can support both Becca and another Nick!
Glad to see someone else in the same locals scene as me also playing Rebecca :D
What shops do you play at? I've been on Rebecca since late 04, I hang mainly at GK and Pixelhaven
@@the_lord_nick I’m almost always at Mothership, though I do go to Pixelhaven sometimes for things like pre releases.
I’m normally at Mothership on Tuesdays but occasionally make it down to Pixelhaven for things like prerelease events!
Hey! I run a similar list, agree on the gravity blades, but no Scarlett? Moria with Scarlett is pretty good.
I was enjoying some of the plays I could do with Scarlett but Helmeppo became more useful on his own because he enables Kyros to clear 4 costs. There are a ton of Law players at my locals and thus I have teched a little more for that matchup with this list.
Maybe upload some more meta deck games to see how much hard it is to play this deck against Enel,Law, Gecko, B/Y Luffy
I want to but, my time is relatively limited for editing, I have attempted to post for specific matchups on the sim, but when people see you are Rebecca asking for matchups many of them leave as they also want meta matchups so I am at the mercy of randomly finding opponents most of the time. This means it will take me forever to hit these games and I just don't have the time to do that at the moment.
I do plan to post a guide to these matchups soon and give my opinion on win ratio to each of the top four decks.
@@the_lord_nickdo ranked they dont have a choice
Very understandable.
@@Spartanjohn99I'll give it a shot last times I played it the queues were long and had issues with someone not connecting to the room
Nice breakdown!
Thank you! i try my best lol
It would be cool to see the last Rebecca build played on sim, great video!
Nice gameplay 👍
Really cool stuff! Do you try to do leader effect every turn with this list? Looks like you’d whiff pretty often? Would love to see your eb01 build I assume you’re using scarlet?
So for hero ability, I use it more late game, but also anytime I can and have the extra don unless I am against Gecko and then you only want to use it when you are going to play enough cards to keep you at 4 in hand, don't want their peronas doing anything. As for the EB01 build I do use scarlet and the Luccis are gone, the build will be out in a few weeks and is based on a build I saw on VVTheory's video about OP 6.5 Rebecca, I just changed a few cards in it.
I think hina over rebecca and gekko is better as then the shitty black decks still have access to those cards
I believe that access to Rebecca and Gekko is necessary as they are the only real payoffs of the black self milling contingency the removal black has is far less valuable then the cost for said removal if there isn’t someway to net some advantage later.
How do I get everyone at locals to watch this? Hahahah
Promo SM
you're missing some cavendish
Dude I want cavendish to work so badly, the space just isn’t there. The spot would be the one Leo is in, but Leo has the upside of costing one for the effect and it is on play, cavendish will either cost 5 if they have a rested character or 6 if they don’t, while he threatens two characters it isn’t until later in the game and I have cards that do that pressure without having to be able to attack. I love Cavendish but, as an option right now he is worse than Lucci so unless Lucci gets hit after worlds I probably won’t have him in my lists(unless I am trying some new spice).
@@the_lord_nick Rebecca doesn’t need lucci I had kata against my brother playing Rebeca it didn’t matter how many 10 moms I played I destroyed me
I mean lucci doesn't change you match up into yellow much, but cavendish isn't just better in that match up, they do similar things but lucci can hit a cost higher target and does it for cheaper so he is just more efficient @@thetruthtrucking
I'm surprised you said pluffy and saka is easier than enel and kata for me its the complete opposite and the only difference in your list and mine is lucci and leo for trueno and koby
No matter how much I test yellow has felt near impossible for me to beat, I usually can put value an opponent by late game but yellow has a plethora of large cards and don’t really run out of cards. It feels like i need more early pressure to have a shot of rushing them out but that build feels mediocre against matchups where as this one sacs the yellow match up and does really good into most others.
You really don't like trueno bastardo ? Great video thanks for introducing me to this deck, tons of fun
So I like trueno but right now not developing a body is rough at least on curve. In late game it’s a good option but if I draw it early it’s a card that sits in my hand forever or becomes a sabo target thus I value having better combo removal pieces like Leo
Love the hound blaze in there, I too have tried using it But I hate that I have to hard draw or hope it's in life. Just waiting for good blue dressrosa cards or B/Y kyros
Yeah it sucks a little that you have to draw it but this list burns through the deck super fast so you can stack the bottom of your deck and have a pretty good chance of seeing those cards so if you can keep track of the order you put to the bottom you can plan to see it.
How does Elizabello do in the face of all the bounce in the format? Hound blaze, three thousand swords and red roc all easily remove him. Seems rough.
It can be rough, but you are not placing elizabello early, by the time you are preparing to use him decks like Sakazuki are usually out of hound blazes and borsalinos thanks to kyros, 4 drop borsalino and previous sabo turns
@the_lord_nick okay, last minute play after removal is gone. Thanks.
Deck list ?
While we can all agree these decks are really strong this way of "fixing them" just seems very naive. Just killing top ends doesn't help the game in any way, it just forces everyone into the same play style. How is a deck ever supposed to compete with the consistency of something like Zoro, RG Law and others if we gut their late game. We went through months of brainless aggro meta, and 1 month into the healthiest format we've ever had everyone is just going crazy. Saka doesn't need any hit until 06 for sure, the deck is very fragile, and while it's the most consistent deck in the meta, every other meta deck can beat it on a good hand. Now some cards just need to go, not because of their power necessarily, but because of their effect on the game. 10 mom is so easy to find, it has 2 different searchers as well as other means of fixing your hand, she also has no counterplay pretty much, it's a +2 on life, 2 of these in a row is so oppressive that I think even leaving 2 of her might be too much. Yamato is way more balanced and so is katakuri, they're flexible but you can play around Yamato so that she doesn't heal/remove based on your priorities, same with Kata as you can remove their body to prevent healing. The strength of cards by themselves is almost never an issue, they will be surpassed and answers will be discovered or printed eventually. The only real reason to touch anything would be uninteractive gameplay (such as Nami) or effects that are so efficient that they just win you the game with no counterplay such as the WB stage. Overall Bandai has done a great job so far as we can see from the diversity at the nationals in recent weeks, it's not easy to create such a balanced meta while also allowing rogue options to perform well into it.
It's not a fix because the game is in a horrendously unbalanced state, it's a fix for making the game more fun and widening the options even more. Limiting top-end cards to 2 of each stops the issue of being able to drop game-altering cards like 10 drop moms on repeat, or dropping 9 beards every turn for multiple turns in a row. The repetitive aspects of these cards make them so unfun and unfair, I agree. But limiting them to two does hit their consistency with searchers and limits the number of games in which these cards can be seen back to back. Now you could argue that it is just 9 and 10 drops that need this hit and I can see a reason behind it but, I was also looking at this monetarily and a decrease in the number of Katas you can run would probably help reduce his price a considerable amount. If a meta is truly balanced, everything is viable and everything has a meta deck. This is unobtainable and unrealistic, but the current meta you are correct in stating is very balanced compared to sets 1-4 here in the West. But that doesn't mean outliers don't occur, it's pretty obvious that Sakazuki and the yellow decks are the biggest outliers. Conversion percentage across big tournaments is highest among these decks by a large margin. Thus you don't need to gut them in a way that completely kills them, but tuning them down might not be a bad option. I am not claiming my fixes are perfect, they are an opinion piece from my perspective and from my knowledge. I am looking at this from a consumer viewpoint and two of the most important factors from that viewpoint would be accessibility to these cards(most singles are ok price-wise, 9 Beard is a little high and Katakuri is out of control but these are outliers) and from enjoyability. Balance would be a tertiary objective as a meta can be balanced and yet very unfun or frustrating to play in, many people would state this meta is at least somewhat frustrating. The only decks I personally have a vendetta against are Enel and Kata, I think their top end is too consistent and they have too many ways to maintain a winning board state that forces every opponent to have to play their strategy. As consistent as Sakazuki is at controlling and recurring value, he can run into issues with maintaining cards in hand to have a defense. So personally I have fewer issues with him and think personally he doesn't need any changes but for the sake of having an optional change the one in my video would be how I would approach it. Hopefully, this clears up the reason I decided to make this video and why I will standby my opinion as to why a change to the state of top-end cards is potentially needed and why a change to black could allow for continued diversity into the next couple months/sets.
@@the_lord_nick Completely agree with accessibility, pretty much every card in Sakazuki needs a reprint. I think I approached this purely as a matter of competitive integrity, and aside from a bit too much rng on yellow's side this format is fantastic. I see that the game could be more fun in some aspects with your proposed solution. I also think that we could have a fun format where every card is limited to 1. Anyways I hope I didn't come off too aggressive in the first comment, I also hate Katakuri and to a lesser extent Enel, but I think hitting an entire playstyle because of a couple decks feels wrong. I think bandai has kept track of the meta and done a good job so far with fixes, as well as giving every deck/playstyle their time to shine, I trust them to find a fix for these and I will keep waking up every morning hoping that 10Mom is banned/restricted.
I understand mate, look I get passionate about things too and it seemed like you were trying to a make a well thought out critic of my video and I appreciate it. I also appreciate the follow up, I like knowing from what angle people are approaching a topic because that matters greatly in terms of how they will perceive a viewpoint/arguement. I have learned to hate 10 drop mom, but I think if too much power is taken straight from yellow or saka then we will see the return of the red scourge. The limiting on top end puts us closer to the previous restrictions we had on Whitebeard but also hits Ace and a couple of other potent top end bombs. I think there is definitely a more finesseful way of approaching it and I trust Bandai will find that way. Despite my grievances with certain decks and matchups the game is easily in it's best state so far and I have nothing but excitement for upcoming sets. I would prefer they print more tech cards to deal with these issues opposed to restricting but the fastest and easiest fix is to remove something.@@jenostheascended7818
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Ngl, ppl are sleeping on patch work, I added to my Rebecca version and it is doing pretty well, going to the European championship with it tomorrow, I hope I can get a few wins
I’ve been loving the card and want to find a way to slot it up to three on my current list but it’s been kind of difficult. Let me know how you do at EU Championship, would love to hear about the wins you get!
decklist?
It’s in my other video, it’s the OTK deck tech video
Not otk
It is an otk list, and the name of the video is just in reference to the list in the deck tech(the video this was released with). I didn't go for the OTK in the Saka matchup because it would have given my opponent an extra turn to rebuild and claw his way back in. As for the enel game we just didn't see the otk pieces
WE LOVE ELIZABELLOOOOOO
Yes we do!
This deck has the sauce.
You know it, this list has been really fun to play and is fast becoming one of my favorite variations thus far
Idk if i would call a game in which you control the board and slowly outvalue your opponent a "Explosive OTK" xD
The game wasn’t the deck does run it, sadly never popped up in my example games lol
But you do got to clickbait sometimes lol
I find the Enel easy compared to katakuri and saka as well. I just remove board over and over and keep them at 2 life until I have 4 swings to win the game. My endboard is usually luffy, kyros, orlumbus, plus any blockers I put up sabo or Rebecca
I actually prefer Saka matchup to enel, I think my worst matchup is Enel.
@@the_lord_nick my worst match up is purple luffy I've lost to them the most out of all the meta decks irl and ranked sim
@@grayhunter7945 man you and I have had major difference in experience, of the meta decks I destroy saka and pluffy but I have a 50/50 with kata and I lose almost 80% of my enel games lol
@@the_lord_nick Op5 meta has been a sack fest for me either I sack my opponents or they sack me lol. I'm surprised you aren't having trouble against pluffy or saka. I recently added hound blaze so maybe I'll have a better time against them.
Hound blaze has been a very strong card, if you have orlumbus it is essentially a more efficient three thousand worlds that also buffs an attacker which is huge, this means a kyros gets a more guaranteed tempo on life or you can clear another character. With one legged soldier it is a two card investment for three thousand worlds plus 3k attack. The cost of two cards also isn't a big deal as you need more in your trash to activate luffys or elizibellos and a plethora of other cards. As for the match up into saka just play it calmly, force him to need hound blazes or 7 drop borsalinos, your deck digs faster and deeper than his if you can maintain the battle of attrition you generally win late.@@grayhunter7945
Very impressive against the Saka. At the end i would have replaced the Mansherry instead of the Kyros tbh. Since he had the Tsurus. Other than that, this was just perfect play imho! 👍
At that point I was pretty sure I had the win but I replaced the kyros because mansherry is a target he can swing into to kill and this might convince him to avoid my face and give me a chance to survive if I didn’t get through somehow. Also I can reanimate the kyros with a Rebecca and can’t as easily get mansherry back
I mean sure you don't like sakalucci but are playing 80% the saem decklist? it's just a worse version.
I don't dislike sakazuki at all, I just enjoy Rebecca a lot and am trying to figure out her best list into the meta decks. Also if there is a lot of Sakazuki's floating around Rebecca is a good match up into him, she wins that match up about 80% of the time from my own testing across multiple lists. She is worse vs yellow but yellow is just a hard matchup for everyone right now.
@@the_lord_nickwhat is your gameplan against Sakazuki? It feels kinda hard for me to remove his chars :)
The gameplan is play the attrition war, he wants to play a removal game and so do the builds I make for rebecca. The big advantage we have in this game state is that we draw two cards a turn most of the time and he only draws one. Outside of that develop an early attacker like a kyros or borsalino blocker(in this match up he is an attacker if we have another blocker in hand) that have to be bounced and cant be ko'd in combat without multiple attacks or don investments, this will cost him the ability to develop a board state as easily and have to keep digging for hound blazes. Poke with this one character while you take turns removing each others boards, tax counters out of his hands with this attacks and force him to have to rebuild every turn and you will win in late.@@Jogiking
@@the_lord_nick Wow! Thank you for the detailed answer! very helpful indeed :) so would you say that the extra draw is almost mandatory? i played rebecca for the first time yesterday at locals and lost to sakazuki because i thought to myself to better play the aggressive part and went first to get out a kyros turn 2, sadly saw no rebecca searcher and he managed to hound blaze two of my kyros right after playing them so i wanted to study the matchups right after! you have been helping me tremendously with your videos so far, please keep up with the amazing work :)
Happy I could help, don't worry about having to beat him early, you have a strong late game and the advantage you have is that you always get two cards a turn for 1 don meanwhile he has to cycle cards or use more don for that extra card. Maintain as much board threat as you can, one of the key cards in the matchup is sabo because it makes it very difficult for him to clear a board that can't be ko'd@@Jogiking
Interesting decklist. Iam really looking forward to see what this is capable of 🎉
This particular list went 2 and 2 at two locals and had an online winrate around 55% (6wins and 5 loses, mixed opponents most wins were against sakazuki), all and all not a bad last but I am still brewing and have another list I played being showcased Thursday, it's a bit more of a for fun list though it has a better win rate than this one.
I see. Happy to see the games on Thursday 🥳
I'll probably record some of my games Wednesday and post them in tandem with the decklist, the current video doesn't have some gameplay with it, do have a stream vod with some of the games from Monday though!@@florianb5548
Yellow matchuo feels much easier now tbh
It's playable now, we have options to deal with some of their early board if they play a threat a turn, that being said late game is still favored to yellow most of the time unless we can develop two blockers a turn and keep two big threats at their life. Katakuri and Mom are easier than Enel for sure, Enel has become my kryptonite.
@@the_lord_nick pretty much best a kat by just looping blockers and killing all Thier 10 moms. I've learned in the match up I'll just give them a life until I'm in control of the board. My build is similar but I run luccis and hound blaze for a bit more removal utility
I moved to a different list than this video, I have been playing roughly 20-30 games of Rebecca each week testing what works the best and I came to the conclusion that 4 houndblaze is just better than three thousand worlds cause the tempo it develops as well as 3 kyros over the lucci as he is just harder to get rid of. My list I ran to locals this week was a bit on the spicy side cause I removed the luffys and added a different otk that caught some people off guard.@@tyresewallace9146
Edits in Post: Dragon's Claw does not have a trigger, I didn't realize this from my own testing at locals because I never hit it out of life and must of overlooked the missing text box for a trigger. Disregard the advocacy of this card as an out of life trigger bomb, it is still a very good card just not as good as the sim makes it out to be.
dragon claw isnt actually supposed to have a trigger
You are correct, I never realized this in person as I never had it come out of life, curious why it has such a powerful effect on the sim.
Interesting deck, do u plan to mix a little of black and red? Like playing black and red finishers
So there are a few builds floating around that mix the two and honestly the black core with rush zoros and rush luffys is actually pretty dang strong, I would avoid mixing the two types of removal but the generically strong cards are fair game
I just subbed grats on the 100 :)
thank you i really appreciate it!
Who tf is saka
Sakazuki, Saka for short
AKA Akainu
@@the_lord_nick when was he ever called saka? Im so confused
If your looking for show references Issho calls him Saka once or twice in Dressrosa, otherwise people just short hand call him that instead of saying Sakazuki @@beams098
How dose it fair against the Katakuri match up?
So far I am 5-2 VS Kata, 3 of those wins the Kata has played multiple 10 Drop Big Moms and can't find ways to deal with my blockers, there will be another video this week on Thursday that shows match ups vs "Saka"(he quits during the match), Vivi and Linlin, also going to be streaming today some ranked queue to see how she does against some more consistent opponents.