You definitely should have go the win his chase was sloppy and you had a solid lead besides the boop on oz1 it was chaseable
@Vlurrych8 сағат бұрын
100%!!!
@jordanaraujo257917 сағат бұрын
Nissan, if you're watching, do this please. You already have all the parts just put it together and sell it.
@MulletmansКүн бұрын
Field missed zone 2, 3 and a mistake at 4. Chris got into all those zones. And field was noseing in alot more.
@MulletmansКүн бұрын
All the FD drivers i watch have said someone is going to get fucked by that wall and look what happened with Adam. Everyone called it.. could have been alot worse
@thcxcrew2731Күн бұрын
Omt if not you tbh
@zkipaКүн бұрын
his lead was better. it was close but i wouldn't say it was clearly in your favor, or that you got robbed. good runs though, looking fast
@driftergonewildКүн бұрын
Fair call by the judges... CF is missing the fact that he had a bobble in OZ4 that's why MF had to check up which ruined his momentum and made him run shallow. Very typical for CF mistake, if you watch other cars in OZ4 they way less of a delay between slow down and acceleration. idk why Chris sleeps on the gas, may because he dropped wheels in practice and was trying not run wide. Other drivers expect him to step on it after slowing down, but Chris coasts for second. In terms of lead, Chris hit the wall and cut the line after that, a big no no, judges said they don't want to see that in the driver's meeting. Spotter should have cleared that call, and inform the driver. Anyhow, just an opinion.
@amornwirakarat3161Күн бұрын
You did better in the chase, but Field did better in the lead. Both lead and chase scores, you may have a little less, or OMT. I think the leader's score matters more than the chase. This is just my opinion, I may be wrong.
@EthanMiller-zu9scКүн бұрын
Your patrol is a GQ y60 short wheel base with a td42 engine
@nickneumeier2804Күн бұрын
Robbed for sure! Watching live I was flabbergasted by that decision…makes no sense
@Ztaal32 күн бұрын
It has been an issue with FD for a few years where judges make call's that are hard to understand, both from a viewer standpoint and as we hear from a driver standpoint. I would love to see a call back from what Matt did wrong, but what I saw was the wall hit in OZ 1 was kinda hard and pushed the car out of the zone and made the transition to OZ 2 a bit off. I really DO NOT get why a track values grass safety over driver safety, If they had the flat barriers like long beach I don't think we would see as much of an issue as the jersey barriers with a ramp. Not only that, but I also think the perpendicular wall at OZ 2 should have been reworked a bit and the last bit of OZ 4 made the end of the battle so awkward, the turn narrows so bad it feels like cars can't fit and didn't look like anyone had a real good way of making it look good. I'm not sure FD should come back after seeing some of this stuff.
@PortugaRD2 күн бұрын
Honestly, I've lost hope in Formula Drift , The more I watch, the angrier it makes me , The commentators are big ball-lickers, and that irritates me deeply. we all know that it is not formula drift anymore, it is Formula Field, Or formula Tuerck or formula asbo And to be honest for quite a while it was formula Forsberg . commentators simply stop commenting on what they are seeing. They simply make stupid and unconstructive guesses. No matter how much player X or Y played the game, they will ALWAYS SPEAK BAD ABOUT THE PERSON, EVEN WHEN THE PLAYER DOESN'T MAKE ANY MISTAKES! creating hypothetical situations taken out of the ASS HOLE 100% It makes me sick to watch. Diego higa, brandon, CASTRO! you can NAME THEM ALL and many more, all the persons that constantly get Fucked And robbed for no fucking reason. IF YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE DRIVERS, AND YOU AREN'T driving AT 200%, YOU WILL GET FUCKED! NO MATHER WHAT. 1000% . No reputation , No name , No fucking anything. I'm even surprised that Minowa IS WINING, its a fucking miracle that this guys Aren't fucking with him the same way they fucked with other drivers . MIRACLE ! Put the fucking judges on the track give them a car on hand and make them fucking drift the track, since they are SOO GOOD judge's For sure They have the ULTIMATE SKILLS to just do it, since they are judging other's people's skills they must have the same amount of skills or even better skill's than the actual Drivers. Sorry for the "hate" but this shit has been pissing me OFF ALOT . And to make things clear , I dont hate Anyone, i just "HATE" The way the game is made and played !
@ThePudgyPlatypi2 күн бұрын
yea, you got robbed. A couple people got robbed that weekend with iffy calls that were not explained.
@sickshadow84132 күн бұрын
Matt's lead was a lot cleaner and they seemed to reward leads a lot more now. Obviously there was the OZ1 wall that kind of threw off your line and pushed you away from matt. I think the spot that gave matt the win was OZ4. You entered well, but ended up leaving the zone late and then the handbrake pull at the end probably also deducted some points, especially since it caused matt to angle up more.
@mackrenniefencing512 күн бұрын
I don’t drift but enjoy watching, to me the judging from one event to the next seems to be very inconsistent,based on opinion rather than ticking the boxes and bs excuses for bad judgement.
@bigmikepimp20032 күн бұрын
And i love your driving. No games no bullshit you know
@bigmikepimp20032 күн бұрын
Why isn't nate in fd?
@jaycqc81362 күн бұрын
It would be best if they put barriers on the grass and left a foot or 2 for error
@jaycqc81362 күн бұрын
The fact they worry about y’all ripping up some grass and not about putting people life at risk and destroying 100k cars is crazy
@GentlyRuthless2 күн бұрын
When the hens fly at the same altitude as the eagles, then you too will make a proper lead and a chase without excuses.
@Supra_Mickey2 күн бұрын
Man Adam starting with “I love walls” happy to see Nate out there with you the whole season
@WhipsawWillys2 күн бұрын
Chris was out here playing red light green light in the lead
@chrisforsbergracing2 күн бұрын
How you mean?
@Sota_C62 күн бұрын
Dude it was bad!!!!!! It was a Formula DERRRRP weekend
@reelizt2 күн бұрын
maybe its click bait but I don't understand why you said controversial calls. you hit the wall on matts lead and it fkd up the rest of your run. He had a very smooth and consistent lead and gave you all the opportunity to door him and the only corner you did so was oz4. def lost bruh.
@chrisforsbergracing2 күн бұрын
It is not just about my lap, looking for your thoughts on the consistency in calls in general.
@reelizt2 күн бұрын
@chrisforsbergracing I think, in general, drivers need to understand what the judges want and hit those marks. At this level, there shouldn't be a debate on what you guys can and can't do. Some of you have been driving for 20+ years. The skill gap shouldn't be as big as it is. Back to the main topic. It sounds like you're saying that the judges are asking for one thing, and changing their thoughts a mid battle? If that's true. And it may very well be. Then drivers need to come together to make something happen about it. I will grant you that ALOT of drivers have been coming out with videos about how the judges are inconsistent. However, are drivers doing exactly as asked. I've seen teams go up to the box throughout the day just to check up on if they're driving the judges expect.
@josephjk28152 күн бұрын
i love you to death chris, but after your contact with the wall in oz1 it caused you to transition late into oz2. in my opinion lead for lead matts was a bit better which allowed him to get the win.
@chrisforsbergracing2 күн бұрын
Thanks man, I appreciate the input. Want to know what people think, but honestly... it's more than just my lap. What are your thoughts on the overall calls in FD.
@mattthompson59082 күн бұрын
They should've ally least put the k rails into the grass. Giving a Lil bit more room
@chrisforsbergracing2 күн бұрын
Yeah, not on the already narrow track...
@GB2G2 күн бұрын
This is one of those rare instances where I agree with the judges on a controversial call. Chris did hit OZ1 after initiation. He also entered OZ4 shallow then actually came out of the zone towards its middle section and got back into the zone in the last part of OZ4 but was still barely in it. In my opinion, this caused Field to bobble in the chase as you can see Field enter OZ4 on a near perfect line but had to correct to take a shallow line to chase Chris which made him bobble. Field also did have a much better Lead. So I think I agree with the judges in that battle but great showing for both drivers.
@chrisforsbergracing2 күн бұрын
Appreciate your breakdown.
@ryevdee60642 күн бұрын
They're always giving Field a massive buffer for errors I really don't understand it.
@kalobduncan2 күн бұрын
For 2 whole seasons now I see them swing things in his favor at a minimum once a round and it’s frustrating. The amount of times I’ve seen him hit others is ridiculous. He gets away with murder and they seem to keep trying to get him a title
@theycallmedeano2 күн бұрын
Time to drop St Louis and find another track
@cobratuner2 күн бұрын
I dont see the issue here. Watching the leads you had a few mistakes. Field ran a solid clean line in his lead. Both of you had about the same chase. It was the wall tap that disrupted the car and the last zone where you left the zone and got back at the end.
@chrisforsbergracing2 күн бұрын
Thanks for your input. We are looking to hear your honest opinions.
@panhagerty50983 күн бұрын
Well we all saw the results of those k-rails with Adam. Up and almost over. FD needs to have an actual ex driver design the courses, not a freshman. FD seems to be very inconsiderate of the drivers opinions and views, despite the fact that without them, there would be nothing. It's a shame. A unified driver's protest is a good idea, it may wake up the necessary personalities a little. Unfortunately money and sponsors seem to be pushing things in their own direction, instead of being a family.
@growlith69693 күн бұрын
I can take a few judging mistakes, but I can't listen to Jarod anymore. It's like he's watching an entirely different event and trying to hit a high word count all at the same time.
@bluefox78623 күн бұрын
Been complaining to FD for a long time that the judges have hardons for certain drivers one of which is Field for whatever reason. Just look at this season alone how many battles he has lost but still got the wins.
@ZabelGameZ3 күн бұрын
They overlooked his mistake at the end of his chase, but his lead was smoother. It was close, but I dont know that Id call it robbed. Get em next time dude. You're an awesome driver!
@chrisforsbergracing2 күн бұрын
Yeah, we are just trying to understand everything better. There were several questionable calls that left many drivers unhappy. Not just mine.
@Mr_jz_123 күн бұрын
Thoughts on Hiro's constant sandbaging on entry on his leads chris?
@chrisforsbergracing2 күн бұрын
I have not really had the opportunity to run with him very often, but his car did seem a little off-pace during our practice lap.
@Mr_jz_122 күн бұрын
@@chrisforsbergracing noticed it at a few events. Seems fine chasing. So just wasn't sure if it was an inexperience thing or a genuine tactic.
@max_coast3 күн бұрын
Unrelated/Related : FD has to make sure the judges can’t hear the commentators while judging is going on. The commentators go off on wild tangents and theories IMMEDIATELY without all the cameras and knowledge to fill dead air and studies have proven that even if you’re aware of a potential bias, hearing people say a thing as true influences your own opinion of a matter. The judges need to be isolated from their dumb ramblings until a decision is made.
@NATASed3 күн бұрын
Commentators are bad in FD, I watch Drift Masters and its 1000% better. FD commentating is getting very annoying, one sounds like there a frog stuck in his throat, and the other is a shout out whore.
@chrissmith80723 күн бұрын
At best for you, it was a OMT lol
@chrisforsbergracing2 күн бұрын
All good man, appreciate your input!
@kennethgamble54983 күн бұрын
I hope fd puts out a video on the calls to help explain it
@chrisforsbergracing2 күн бұрын
Same.
@clarksauto743 күн бұрын
I think it's time to take this show on the road....and that road is Europe...and that road is Drift Masters.
@kennethgamble54983 күн бұрын
Genuine question. Do the judges prefer proximity or comparable angle? Cause I know what they say but is it different in driver meeting?
@Mr_jz_123 күн бұрын
FD said in a video recently the answer, which i was typing and mid typing my adhd brain fucking forgot :(
@LRSNRCNG3093 күн бұрын
If your irish and/or driving a mustang the judges will never fault you for anything and all your runs are perfect. Otherwise everybody else loses a whole battle just for losing 1 degree of angle at any point or goin 1 mph slower than the judges like. Its said year after year and it becomes more evident that the judges need replaced with former drivers or ditch them all together and have sensors everywhere
@transient4423 күн бұрын
That's rich coming from a forsberg fan..
@JamesOshea-ge2km3 күн бұрын
It is just this simple ur judging and judges are shocking in fd a complete joke compared to drift masters fd Japan this year wit all the changes has been a shambles and it all comes back to the judging and judges
@nickdoescher99573 күн бұрын
Dude that’s the part that Adam doesn’t show him rushing to get the first practice is. I watched this live Matt did not win that not at all his chase was terrible and an almost spin at the end of anything omt like field is a the judges boy and it’s hard to beat the judges boy
@transient4423 күн бұрын
watch it again and actually look at forsbergs rear wheel, it tells the entire story of oz4. Chris was already coming into oz4 with the barely any momentum (hence why he came up short) and then he modulated throttle and handbraked because he wanted to be deeper into the zone but he didn't have nearly enough momentum to actually push the car wide so all it did was stall Field up.
@nickdoescher99573 күн бұрын
@@transient442 but that doesn’t matter the chase driver has to mimic the lead driver we saw this issue in road Atlanta a lot of the rule states the way it states Matt field should be at fault for a spin and trying to make up ground on Chris.
@transient4423 күн бұрын
@@nickdoescher9957 This is not how that rule actually works. That only applies when the lead driver is following the expected criteria. If the lead car deviates from that and the chase car has a mistake that can be directly linked to the error of the lead car, Its always going to be blamed on the lead car. This is how the rules work. You can't just do what ever you want in lead and be like "hE wAs sUpPoSeD tO miMic mE bRo" This is a backwards understanding of that rule.
@nickdoescher99573 күн бұрын
@@transient442 but he didn’t do whatever he wanted he was shallow in the zone sure but he didn’t stop drift or make a huge mistake causing an issue hence my original statement stands true field should have mimicked Chris and he didn’t he surged and almost caused a wreck and spun that’s on fields.
@transient4423 күн бұрын
@@nickdoescher9957 Chris was not on throttle past the decel zone, he pulled handbrake past the decel zone, He lifted past the decel zone. What you need to understand about this level of drifting is micro errors like that will and do cause major issues for an unsuspecting chase car and when a car surges that quickly it's generally not a result of the car magically gaining a bunch of speed, its because the lead car slowed or failed to get back on throttle in an area where they were supposed to be carrying momentum. This is precisely why the judges are so hard on drivers for their momentum outside of decel zones.
@verbikt3 күн бұрын
calls where fine by them, you just did a lil to much in the wall tap department in oz1 and came out early which then made a lazy/late transition to oz2 which then lead to mid line in oz3 and then the tire coming out of oz4 sealed it. matt couldn't have a good chase due to all that lol matts lead was clean and was deep in the zones. matt wins in my eyes
@Watusao13 күн бұрын
I forsee st louis being dropped. This is extremly dangerous and possibly career ending stuff here. To protect grass? I guess Grass>humans.
@deeperatmosphere3 күн бұрын
So true.. i think it's ridiculous to make those barriers after the Date and track layout was talked about way before.. they knew when FD will be there, and Just because indicar needs beautiful Grass they screwed another Long year Happening series.. what a Bad Joke..
@JTube5712 күн бұрын
Not to mention the fan turnout appears to be low. There are so many better places they can and should go.
@daltoncampbell75792 күн бұрын
@@JTube571 As a local to STL, my friends and I have stopped going after the layout changed. The original layout was the bee-fuckin-knees. This new one has STUNK and is progressively getting worse. Its also hot as balls on top of the unbearable humidity we have during this time of year. So its just not worth it to pay to watch when you can watch it from the comfort of your air conditioned home.
@hillbillywes1003 күн бұрын
I really haven't been watching long enough to be able to judge for watching on line , BUT. It seems like you are shooting at a moving target. Some of these calls get FD major hate. Maybe they need to give you guys exactly what their looking for in writing and stop moving the finish line. At least for us listening/ watching I'm hearing to much about who is a championship contender and not who can win the round? I'm afraid that is part of the judging formula, not who is cleanest or fastest. Glad you came home with a whole car at least. Really dumb to use that type of wall construction, really careless of FD not taking care of Ya'll
@SKILLI55UE3 күн бұрын
In my opinion, you was closer in the chase and matt made a huge error in the chase, but you did clip the wall in zone 1, so it should've been OMT but your chase was better and cleaner than matt, BUT it's no secret the judging in 2024 has been very inconsistent and as you said rewarding the bully style, touching doors is fine DMEC and D1GP they touch doors but it's done stylish and looks incredible, but FD this year rewards bullying and in your words "sloppy" Also side note! JERSEY BARRIERS NEED TO GO! there's a reason a lot of motorsports are changing from them, because they're dangerous, luckily LZ had experience to know to turn into the accident but a new driver probably wouldn't and end up doing more damage, they need to go!
@chrisforsbergracing2 күн бұрын
Thanks for your input!
@SKILLI55UE2 күн бұрын
@chrisforsbergracing your welcome mate hope next round you come out swinging 😎
@tomkeville78783 күн бұрын
Definitely thought your battle with Matt should at least have been a omt…
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Hert speakin facts 🤟🏻
You definitely should have go the win his chase was sloppy and you had a solid lead besides the boop on oz1 it was chaseable
100%!!!
Nissan, if you're watching, do this please. You already have all the parts just put it together and sell it.
Field missed zone 2, 3 and a mistake at 4. Chris got into all those zones. And field was noseing in alot more.
All the FD drivers i watch have said someone is going to get fucked by that wall and look what happened with Adam. Everyone called it.. could have been alot worse
Omt if not you tbh
his lead was better. it was close but i wouldn't say it was clearly in your favor, or that you got robbed. good runs though, looking fast
Fair call by the judges... CF is missing the fact that he had a bobble in OZ4 that's why MF had to check up which ruined his momentum and made him run shallow. Very typical for CF mistake, if you watch other cars in OZ4 they way less of a delay between slow down and acceleration. idk why Chris sleeps on the gas, may because he dropped wheels in practice and was trying not run wide. Other drivers expect him to step on it after slowing down, but Chris coasts for second. In terms of lead, Chris hit the wall and cut the line after that, a big no no, judges said they don't want to see that in the driver's meeting. Spotter should have cleared that call, and inform the driver. Anyhow, just an opinion.
You did better in the chase, but Field did better in the lead. Both lead and chase scores, you may have a little less, or OMT. I think the leader's score matters more than the chase. This is just my opinion, I may be wrong.
Your patrol is a GQ y60 short wheel base with a td42 engine
Robbed for sure! Watching live I was flabbergasted by that decision…makes no sense
It has been an issue with FD for a few years where judges make call's that are hard to understand, both from a viewer standpoint and as we hear from a driver standpoint. I would love to see a call back from what Matt did wrong, but what I saw was the wall hit in OZ 1 was kinda hard and pushed the car out of the zone and made the transition to OZ 2 a bit off. I really DO NOT get why a track values grass safety over driver safety, If they had the flat barriers like long beach I don't think we would see as much of an issue as the jersey barriers with a ramp. Not only that, but I also think the perpendicular wall at OZ 2 should have been reworked a bit and the last bit of OZ 4 made the end of the battle so awkward, the turn narrows so bad it feels like cars can't fit and didn't look like anyone had a real good way of making it look good. I'm not sure FD should come back after seeing some of this stuff.
Honestly, I've lost hope in Formula Drift , The more I watch, the angrier it makes me , The commentators are big ball-lickers, and that irritates me deeply. we all know that it is not formula drift anymore, it is Formula Field, Or formula Tuerck or formula asbo And to be honest for quite a while it was formula Forsberg . commentators simply stop commenting on what they are seeing. They simply make stupid and unconstructive guesses. No matter how much player X or Y played the game, they will ALWAYS SPEAK BAD ABOUT THE PERSON, EVEN WHEN THE PLAYER DOESN'T MAKE ANY MISTAKES! creating hypothetical situations taken out of the ASS HOLE 100% It makes me sick to watch. Diego higa, brandon, CASTRO! you can NAME THEM ALL and many more, all the persons that constantly get Fucked And robbed for no fucking reason. IF YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE DRIVERS, AND YOU AREN'T driving AT 200%, YOU WILL GET FUCKED! NO MATHER WHAT. 1000% . No reputation , No name , No fucking anything. I'm even surprised that Minowa IS WINING, its a fucking miracle that this guys Aren't fucking with him the same way they fucked with other drivers . MIRACLE ! Put the fucking judges on the track give them a car on hand and make them fucking drift the track, since they are SOO GOOD judge's For sure They have the ULTIMATE SKILLS to just do it, since they are judging other's people's skills they must have the same amount of skills or even better skill's than the actual Drivers. Sorry for the "hate" but this shit has been pissing me OFF ALOT . And to make things clear , I dont hate Anyone, i just "HATE" The way the game is made and played !
yea, you got robbed. A couple people got robbed that weekend with iffy calls that were not explained.
Matt's lead was a lot cleaner and they seemed to reward leads a lot more now. Obviously there was the OZ1 wall that kind of threw off your line and pushed you away from matt. I think the spot that gave matt the win was OZ4. You entered well, but ended up leaving the zone late and then the handbrake pull at the end probably also deducted some points, especially since it caused matt to angle up more.
I don’t drift but enjoy watching, to me the judging from one event to the next seems to be very inconsistent,based on opinion rather than ticking the boxes and bs excuses for bad judgement.
And i love your driving. No games no bullshit you know
Why isn't nate in fd?
It would be best if they put barriers on the grass and left a foot or 2 for error
The fact they worry about y’all ripping up some grass and not about putting people life at risk and destroying 100k cars is crazy
When the hens fly at the same altitude as the eagles, then you too will make a proper lead and a chase without excuses.
Man Adam starting with “I love walls” happy to see Nate out there with you the whole season
Chris was out here playing red light green light in the lead
How you mean?
Dude it was bad!!!!!! It was a Formula DERRRRP weekend
maybe its click bait but I don't understand why you said controversial calls. you hit the wall on matts lead and it fkd up the rest of your run. He had a very smooth and consistent lead and gave you all the opportunity to door him and the only corner you did so was oz4. def lost bruh.
It is not just about my lap, looking for your thoughts on the consistency in calls in general.
@chrisforsbergracing I think, in general, drivers need to understand what the judges want and hit those marks. At this level, there shouldn't be a debate on what you guys can and can't do. Some of you have been driving for 20+ years. The skill gap shouldn't be as big as it is. Back to the main topic. It sounds like you're saying that the judges are asking for one thing, and changing their thoughts a mid battle? If that's true. And it may very well be. Then drivers need to come together to make something happen about it. I will grant you that ALOT of drivers have been coming out with videos about how the judges are inconsistent. However, are drivers doing exactly as asked. I've seen teams go up to the box throughout the day just to check up on if they're driving the judges expect.
i love you to death chris, but after your contact with the wall in oz1 it caused you to transition late into oz2. in my opinion lead for lead matts was a bit better which allowed him to get the win.
Thanks man, I appreciate the input. Want to know what people think, but honestly... it's more than just my lap. What are your thoughts on the overall calls in FD.
They should've ally least put the k rails into the grass. Giving a Lil bit more room
Yeah, not on the already narrow track...
This is one of those rare instances where I agree with the judges on a controversial call. Chris did hit OZ1 after initiation. He also entered OZ4 shallow then actually came out of the zone towards its middle section and got back into the zone in the last part of OZ4 but was still barely in it. In my opinion, this caused Field to bobble in the chase as you can see Field enter OZ4 on a near perfect line but had to correct to take a shallow line to chase Chris which made him bobble. Field also did have a much better Lead. So I think I agree with the judges in that battle but great showing for both drivers.
Appreciate your breakdown.
They're always giving Field a massive buffer for errors I really don't understand it.
For 2 whole seasons now I see them swing things in his favor at a minimum once a round and it’s frustrating. The amount of times I’ve seen him hit others is ridiculous. He gets away with murder and they seem to keep trying to get him a title
Time to drop St Louis and find another track
I dont see the issue here. Watching the leads you had a few mistakes. Field ran a solid clean line in his lead. Both of you had about the same chase. It was the wall tap that disrupted the car and the last zone where you left the zone and got back at the end.
Thanks for your input. We are looking to hear your honest opinions.
Well we all saw the results of those k-rails with Adam. Up and almost over. FD needs to have an actual ex driver design the courses, not a freshman. FD seems to be very inconsiderate of the drivers opinions and views, despite the fact that without them, there would be nothing. It's a shame. A unified driver's protest is a good idea, it may wake up the necessary personalities a little. Unfortunately money and sponsors seem to be pushing things in their own direction, instead of being a family.
I can take a few judging mistakes, but I can't listen to Jarod anymore. It's like he's watching an entirely different event and trying to hit a high word count all at the same time.
Been complaining to FD for a long time that the judges have hardons for certain drivers one of which is Field for whatever reason. Just look at this season alone how many battles he has lost but still got the wins.
They overlooked his mistake at the end of his chase, but his lead was smoother. It was close, but I dont know that Id call it robbed. Get em next time dude. You're an awesome driver!
Yeah, we are just trying to understand everything better. There were several questionable calls that left many drivers unhappy. Not just mine.
Thoughts on Hiro's constant sandbaging on entry on his leads chris?
I have not really had the opportunity to run with him very often, but his car did seem a little off-pace during our practice lap.
@@chrisforsbergracing noticed it at a few events. Seems fine chasing. So just wasn't sure if it was an inexperience thing or a genuine tactic.
Unrelated/Related : FD has to make sure the judges can’t hear the commentators while judging is going on. The commentators go off on wild tangents and theories IMMEDIATELY without all the cameras and knowledge to fill dead air and studies have proven that even if you’re aware of a potential bias, hearing people say a thing as true influences your own opinion of a matter. The judges need to be isolated from their dumb ramblings until a decision is made.
Commentators are bad in FD, I watch Drift Masters and its 1000% better. FD commentating is getting very annoying, one sounds like there a frog stuck in his throat, and the other is a shout out whore.
At best for you, it was a OMT lol
All good man, appreciate your input!
I hope fd puts out a video on the calls to help explain it
Same.
I think it's time to take this show on the road....and that road is Europe...and that road is Drift Masters.
Genuine question. Do the judges prefer proximity or comparable angle? Cause I know what they say but is it different in driver meeting?
FD said in a video recently the answer, which i was typing and mid typing my adhd brain fucking forgot :(
If your irish and/or driving a mustang the judges will never fault you for anything and all your runs are perfect. Otherwise everybody else loses a whole battle just for losing 1 degree of angle at any point or goin 1 mph slower than the judges like. Its said year after year and it becomes more evident that the judges need replaced with former drivers or ditch them all together and have sensors everywhere
That's rich coming from a forsberg fan..
It is just this simple ur judging and judges are shocking in fd a complete joke compared to drift masters fd Japan this year wit all the changes has been a shambles and it all comes back to the judging and judges
Dude that’s the part that Adam doesn’t show him rushing to get the first practice is. I watched this live Matt did not win that not at all his chase was terrible and an almost spin at the end of anything omt like field is a the judges boy and it’s hard to beat the judges boy
watch it again and actually look at forsbergs rear wheel, it tells the entire story of oz4. Chris was already coming into oz4 with the barely any momentum (hence why he came up short) and then he modulated throttle and handbraked because he wanted to be deeper into the zone but he didn't have nearly enough momentum to actually push the car wide so all it did was stall Field up.
@@transient442 but that doesn’t matter the chase driver has to mimic the lead driver we saw this issue in road Atlanta a lot of the rule states the way it states Matt field should be at fault for a spin and trying to make up ground on Chris.
@@nickdoescher9957 This is not how that rule actually works. That only applies when the lead driver is following the expected criteria. If the lead car deviates from that and the chase car has a mistake that can be directly linked to the error of the lead car, Its always going to be blamed on the lead car. This is how the rules work. You can't just do what ever you want in lead and be like "hE wAs sUpPoSeD tO miMic mE bRo" This is a backwards understanding of that rule.
@@transient442 but he didn’t do whatever he wanted he was shallow in the zone sure but he didn’t stop drift or make a huge mistake causing an issue hence my original statement stands true field should have mimicked Chris and he didn’t he surged and almost caused a wreck and spun that’s on fields.
@@nickdoescher9957 Chris was not on throttle past the decel zone, he pulled handbrake past the decel zone, He lifted past the decel zone. What you need to understand about this level of drifting is micro errors like that will and do cause major issues for an unsuspecting chase car and when a car surges that quickly it's generally not a result of the car magically gaining a bunch of speed, its because the lead car slowed or failed to get back on throttle in an area where they were supposed to be carrying momentum. This is precisely why the judges are so hard on drivers for their momentum outside of decel zones.
calls where fine by them, you just did a lil to much in the wall tap department in oz1 and came out early which then made a lazy/late transition to oz2 which then lead to mid line in oz3 and then the tire coming out of oz4 sealed it. matt couldn't have a good chase due to all that lol matts lead was clean and was deep in the zones. matt wins in my eyes
I forsee st louis being dropped. This is extremly dangerous and possibly career ending stuff here. To protect grass? I guess Grass>humans.
So true.. i think it's ridiculous to make those barriers after the Date and track layout was talked about way before.. they knew when FD will be there, and Just because indicar needs beautiful Grass they screwed another Long year Happening series.. what a Bad Joke..
Not to mention the fan turnout appears to be low. There are so many better places they can and should go.
@@JTube571 As a local to STL, my friends and I have stopped going after the layout changed. The original layout was the bee-fuckin-knees. This new one has STUNK and is progressively getting worse. Its also hot as balls on top of the unbearable humidity we have during this time of year. So its just not worth it to pay to watch when you can watch it from the comfort of your air conditioned home.
I really haven't been watching long enough to be able to judge for watching on line , BUT. It seems like you are shooting at a moving target. Some of these calls get FD major hate. Maybe they need to give you guys exactly what their looking for in writing and stop moving the finish line. At least for us listening/ watching I'm hearing to much about who is a championship contender and not who can win the round? I'm afraid that is part of the judging formula, not who is cleanest or fastest. Glad you came home with a whole car at least. Really dumb to use that type of wall construction, really careless of FD not taking care of Ya'll
In my opinion, you was closer in the chase and matt made a huge error in the chase, but you did clip the wall in zone 1, so it should've been OMT but your chase was better and cleaner than matt, BUT it's no secret the judging in 2024 has been very inconsistent and as you said rewarding the bully style, touching doors is fine DMEC and D1GP they touch doors but it's done stylish and looks incredible, but FD this year rewards bullying and in your words "sloppy" Also side note! JERSEY BARRIERS NEED TO GO! there's a reason a lot of motorsports are changing from them, because they're dangerous, luckily LZ had experience to know to turn into the accident but a new driver probably wouldn't and end up doing more damage, they need to go!
Thanks for your input!
@chrisforsbergracing your welcome mate hope next round you come out swinging 😎
Definitely thought your battle with Matt should at least have been a omt…
I think a OMT would have been fair.