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@reginabethpm940219 күн бұрын
Hi, late to the party … only watched the movie last night (thanks to KZread). Thank you for this conversation, explains so much of how their love story unfolded and flourished. I also watched an interview of Douglas, it was wonderful to hear a portion of his side of their life story.
@hberrysc35172 ай бұрын
Just finished the book tonight. Had to see what it looked like
@YaelIvet_NYC2 ай бұрын
Great conversations. But: the Rev. Peter Bide was an Anglican priest and not an Episcopal priest as mentioned in this video.
@lesliecarnes87753 ай бұрын
This was so interesting! I will be watching this video again and again! Also, I will be buying the book.
@bootsie2804 ай бұрын
Satanist!
@user-lg8fe7qb5h5 ай бұрын
LOVE ❤️ is our only ANSWER. Let's FEAST on LOVE and Fast on Evil. 'Love One Another As I Have Loved You 'Jn13:34
@BecauseofLoveJesusDiedForMe5 ай бұрын
Just finished Surviving Savannah excellent book.
@harrietthespy21198 ай бұрын
Hi Patti (this is Mary Clinard Borge from Auburn/PhiMu)🤗 Just wanted to say what a fabulous interview/conversation and can’t wait to read your book on Joy. I think it’s really interesting to think of Joy setting her sites on Lewis and going to get him for herself as romantic, as opposed to some kind of predatory, minx-y scheme. I think if we look at how he responded the more he knew her, and especially when she passed away, it doesn’t actually matter whether she planned to meet and connect with him in a deeper way than he initially knew from early on, or it was a “Godincidence” that they became life partners; either way they brought so much to each others’ lives, and beyond them to her sons’, Warnie’s and others’ BECAUSE she sought him out. And for Bill Gresham to want to mess with that relationship after he had been so incredibly, serially unfaithful to her, and abusive to his sons, is just beyond unconscionable. What I’ve read and heard, Bill was almost the opposite of Joy and Lewis, in that he was always looking to debunk mystery and wonderment, and they were experiencing it, questioning it, then giving fully into it together for the good of each other and others! Though he was diagnosed with schizophrenia, my guess, as a trauma therapist, is that Davey had C-PTSD from being raised in an alcoholic, sometimes abusive, fractured home with Bill. This makes me very sad because chances are good he would’ve been mentally healthy had he not been exposed to his father’s narcissistic maltreatment😢. Great interview on a fabulously interesting couple, y’all!! Thanks!!
@harrietthespy21198 ай бұрын
The likely reason Joy was so triggered in her jealousy is because she had been married to a serially unfaithful husband before Lewis!
@BobbyNavarrette-ks3tx9 ай бұрын
I would love to know you , charmed. You are amazing.
@tinekedijk73859 ай бұрын
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@ashleysilva741410 ай бұрын
C. S. Lewis has helped a lot of people over the years. However, it is important to know what he believed. Here is a brief summary. In simple terms, C.S. Lewis was an Anglo-Catholic and though dead, remains a living spokesman for ecumenism - a link to ecclesiastical reunion. The following documented facts regarding his religious beliefs speak for themselves and raise some disturbing questions about his meaning of “Christian.” 1. Lewis believed in a “Christian” purgatory after death. “Death should not deprive people of a second chance…Lewis frankly admitted believing in purgatory. To him it was a place for souls already saved but in need of purifying - purging. Lewis felt that our souls demand purgatory. Who would want to enter heaven foul and dirty? Lewis thought of the dentist’s chair. ‘I hope that when the tooth of life is drawn and I am coming round, a voice will say, ‘Rinse your mouth out with this’ This will be purgatory.’” (Kathryn Lindskoog. C.S. Lewis: Mere Christian, 4th ed. Chicago: Cornerstone Press, 1997, p. 105). 2. Lewis prayed for the dead. “Lewis could never accept the Roman Catholic practice of praying to saints…however, he emphatically believed in praying for the dead. He believed that his prayers could somehow bless them. One must remember that Lewis believed in a temporary purgatory for the blessed dead as a kind of entryway to heaven” (Lindskoog 135 based on Lewis’ Letters to Malcolm, London: Collins p. 15, 107-110). 3. Lewis believed in mystical experiences. “Rational though he was, Lewis thoroughly believed in the mystical experience, a way to go out of this world before death … mystics from all kinds of religions have much the same mystical experience” (Lindskoog, p. 197). 4. Lewis did not believe in the total inerrancy of the Bible. “Although Lewis never doubted the historicity of an account because the account was miraculous, he believed that Jonah’s whale, Noah’s ark, and Job’s boils were probably inspired stories rather than factual history” (Lindskoog, p. 199). 5. Lewis believed that Roman Catholicism is a “Christian” religion. Regarding Mere Christianity, Lewis said: “I tried to guard against this [putting forth his Anglican beliefs] by sending the original script of what is now Book II to four clergymen (Anglican, Methodist, Presbyterian, Roman Catholic) and asking for their criticism. The Methodist thought I had not said enough about Faith, and the Roman Catholic thought I had gone rather too far about the comparative unimportance of theories in explanation of the Atonement. Otherwise all five of us were agreed” (C.S. Lewis. Mere Christianity. New Jersey: Fleming Revell, 1982, p. 11). Continuing this thought, Lewis added that he “did at least succeed in presenting an agreed, or common, or central, or ‘mere’ Christianity” and congratulated himself in having helped to bridge the “chasm” between Protestant denominations and Catholicism: “If I have not directly helped the cause of reunion, I have perhaps made it clear why we ought to be reunited” (Mere Christianity, p. 12). “You will not learn from me whether you ought to become an Anglican, a Methodist, a Presbyterian, or a Roman Catholic. This omission is intentional. There is no mystery about my position…the best service I could do was to explain and defend the belief that has been common to nearly all Christians at all times” (Mere Christianity, p. 6-7). “And, whatever you do, do not start quarrelling with other people because they use a different formula from yours” (Mere Christianity, p. 284-5.) 6. Lewis accepted the Mass as being the same as Christian Communion. “There are three things that spread the Christ life to us: baptism, belief, and that mysterious action which different Christians call by different names - Holy Communion, the Mass, the Lord’s Supper …anyone who professes to teach you Christian doctrine will, in fact, tell you to use all three, and that is enough for our present purpose” (Mere Christianity, p. 108-09). In chapter 19 of his Letters to Malcolm, Lewis suggested that the Roman Catholic conception of the bread and wine becoming the actual body and blood of Christ might be just as valid as the Protestant view of the Lord’s Supper as a memorial. The conclusion? By including a so-called “Christian” purgatory in his beliefs, Lewis immediately destroys the Bible doctrine of the sufficiency of the righteousness of Christ imputed to the sinner’s account in salvation. By including Roman Catholicism under the umbrella of Christianity, and admittedly omitting its doctrines for the sake of unity, Lewis condones the heresies of the Mass, idolatry, Mariolatry, and salvation by works still taught and practised by that institution. These are not “merely” cosmetic differences between denominations as Lewis would have us believe; these make up the great divide between truth and error. According to the Scriptures, salvation by works sends souls to Hell! How can such a life and death truth be casually omitted?
@laurelhill127611 ай бұрын
Thank the Lord... I've just found you❤
@tjwhitehead295511 ай бұрын
I just finished listening to Beoming Mrs. Lewis, this book. ❤️
@missmurrydesign7115 Жыл бұрын
Delicious...
@lillianmcgrew217 Жыл бұрын
Love this ❤❤
@lauravanniekerk4719 Жыл бұрын
Interesting that there were 2 lady names in the family meaning happy: Joy, and Merry. The Lord has an amazing sense of humor sometimes
@sherrymorris5564 Жыл бұрын
Just ordered your book! Absolutely love CS Lewis and cannot wait to read Becoming Mrs Lewis!
@claritadeluna6609 Жыл бұрын
I cannot stand that music; was it necessary? I think presentation of your subject was delightful enough as it is. No music necessary!
@frankk.777 Жыл бұрын
Marriage has many pains but celibacy has no pleasures…
@christinepaige2575 Жыл бұрын
...unless it feeds your soul by serving a Godly purpose
@tannisfalkenberg3731 Жыл бұрын
The interviewer and the one interviewed did a superb job! I loved CSLewis!
@ewazizemska781 Жыл бұрын
Thank You ❤🌿🌹🌿❤
@4Grace4Truth Жыл бұрын
Love this conversation! ❤
@4Grace4Truth Жыл бұрын
Joy Davidman was an incredible woman whom I have had the pleasure of meeting in the pages of your book. I am so thankful to God that you wrote about Joy! I had always wondered about her life. One day I would like to visit the Kilns. And where is everybody else?! I expected a thousand comments here, people!
@josealmeida9492 Жыл бұрын
Moro no Brasil um dia vou ai conhecer esse lugar
@Rebeccakisosondi Жыл бұрын
The lady who asked about their relationship being unhealthy obviously comes from this generation that has no understanding of what a good, normal relationship is
@eliotreader8220 Жыл бұрын
so he was in love with Joy when he was writing about Narnia?
@probro9898 Жыл бұрын
To say he had nothing to do with women between his mother and Joy is simplistic. There was the whole episode of Mrs Moore.
@pamelathomas4864 Жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this presentation put a true perspective on C S Lewis life and faith with his much loved wife
@catherinemelnyk Жыл бұрын
It's now late March 2023. Here in Toronto I purchased your book at a sale at the main Reference Library for a loonie (a Canadian dollar). What a treat it was to read! I had no idea how they had met or their long correspondence. I have enjoyed Lewis's books for decades but I had no idea that Joy.was such an accomplished writer in her own right. Thank you for a glimpse into their lives together. An enjoyable read.
@Sharon32210 Жыл бұрын
WOW , you two nailed "Love " at all its levels in a supernatural way that would make no sense in the natural. God is amazing in the lives of those who are seeking Him. This conversation is one of the most powerful I've ever heard in the hand of two people sensitive enough to handle the depth of it. I watched it three times and wept through it three times Many thanks for sharing your talents with us.
@janiemalina6283 Жыл бұрын
❤️🤗👍!!!
@robinwitting2023 Жыл бұрын
You can see huge intelligence in her eyes. Robin Witting England
@shelleyirwin6104 Жыл бұрын
Her son Douglas says in an interview that he also prayed for his mother and felt the Holy Spirit fill the church he was in. And then she went into remission. He attributed that to the fact that he couldn’t live in a foreign country at that young age so far away from his other parent. So Jesus answered his prayers 🙏🏼
@carlosreira218911 ай бұрын
That is indicative of apostolic unction.
@DigitalMarketingProExpert Жыл бұрын
really amazing video
@wochee2 жыл бұрын
It's not a place of history, it is a continuing community of scholars. Why is it that Americans so often see Oxford as some sort of chocolate box top, instead of understanding that it is a living thing?
@patticallahanandpatticalla21352 жыл бұрын
Oh William how I know it is a community of scholars and a living thing. I am actually here now and nothing is more evident. This American knows what it is and most do not see it as a chocolate top box.
@jrjuttingmd2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I always wondered glad to see it
@amadamcintosh5272 жыл бұрын
I loved your book soooo much. I am glad to have read it after her son's Douglas' biography.
@victorvasguez29282 жыл бұрын
Gt chi chi by by by j JJ by by
@janetfedeles39642 жыл бұрын
I just finished the book and loved it. Now I want to read more! Including their publications and other books by Patti Callahan.
@paulsarodh54602 жыл бұрын
Superb
@paulsarodh54602 жыл бұрын
Rockin
@janethunt40372 жыл бұрын
I'm excited to get to read your book this summer.
@janethunt40372 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome interview! I loved the insights from everyone.
@tamarakuhn16342 жыл бұрын
“Marriage has many pains but celibacy has no pleasures.” ~Samuel Johnson (one of C.S. Lewis’ favorite quotes)
@mortalclown3812 Жыл бұрын
Johnson's life seemed heartbreaking in its solitude. Emanuel Swedenborg was another bachelor - one who seemed to be quite romantic.
@LS-ei7xk9 ай бұрын
@@mortalclown3812 Both marriage and celibacy are great mysteries. One needs to offer up both states (speaking as one who is celibate, but who had wanted to marry for a long time. But not now.)
@anellasharpes12652 жыл бұрын
Does God really love when you are going through some really hard time in your life. does he cause you pain and say he doesn't want you when you get into a relationship with others people. you get in a relationship with and promble accursed. I don't know where I am with GOD he say he is not loving me he is trashing me bad for those who really love and saying I hard this person and others please let me know and understand who God really is. he say I don't belong to him he think I belong to the devil.
@daniellamcgee42512 жыл бұрын
I wanted to hear more about Joy. Unfortunately, the erroneous anti-aetheism prejudices from the start have set the tone and put me off. 'Smoking' and 'going off the rails'. Really??? Academic credibility instantly lost. I understand that Christianity is inseparable from Joy and Jack's story, but this false and judgemental premise is disappointing. Maybe the book would be would be less biased.
@jenniferpratt88832 жыл бұрын
This was just wonderful! I loved every minute of it. Thank you so much for the wonderful insights into C S Lewis and Joy and their life together. God bless🙏😘
@angelawright76912 жыл бұрын
This was one of the most wonderful conversations that I've had the pleasure of listening to--at the very end, Patti saying 'let's take this on the road' I couldn't agree more! moving, impactful, deeply touching... C.S. Lewis and Joy.. their stories, their life together.. their love.. all FOUR! wow)))
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Eu aqui no Brasil vendo esse vídeo milhares de vezes
Hi, late to the party … only watched the movie last night (thanks to KZread). Thank you for this conversation, explains so much of how their love story unfolded and flourished. I also watched an interview of Douglas, it was wonderful to hear a portion of his side of their life story.
Just finished the book tonight. Had to see what it looked like
Great conversations. But: the Rev. Peter Bide was an Anglican priest and not an Episcopal priest as mentioned in this video.
This was so interesting! I will be watching this video again and again! Also, I will be buying the book.
Satanist!
LOVE ❤️ is our only ANSWER. Let's FEAST on LOVE and Fast on Evil. 'Love One Another As I Have Loved You 'Jn13:34
Just finished Surviving Savannah excellent book.
Hi Patti (this is Mary Clinard Borge from Auburn/PhiMu)🤗 Just wanted to say what a fabulous interview/conversation and can’t wait to read your book on Joy. I think it’s really interesting to think of Joy setting her sites on Lewis and going to get him for herself as romantic, as opposed to some kind of predatory, minx-y scheme. I think if we look at how he responded the more he knew her, and especially when she passed away, it doesn’t actually matter whether she planned to meet and connect with him in a deeper way than he initially knew from early on, or it was a “Godincidence” that they became life partners; either way they brought so much to each others’ lives, and beyond them to her sons’, Warnie’s and others’ BECAUSE she sought him out. And for Bill Gresham to want to mess with that relationship after he had been so incredibly, serially unfaithful to her, and abusive to his sons, is just beyond unconscionable. What I’ve read and heard, Bill was almost the opposite of Joy and Lewis, in that he was always looking to debunk mystery and wonderment, and they were experiencing it, questioning it, then giving fully into it together for the good of each other and others! Though he was diagnosed with schizophrenia, my guess, as a trauma therapist, is that Davey had C-PTSD from being raised in an alcoholic, sometimes abusive, fractured home with Bill. This makes me very sad because chances are good he would’ve been mentally healthy had he not been exposed to his father’s narcissistic maltreatment😢. Great interview on a fabulously interesting couple, y’all!! Thanks!!
The likely reason Joy was so triggered in her jealousy is because she had been married to a serially unfaithful husband before Lewis!
I would love to know you , charmed. You are amazing.
L
C. S. Lewis has helped a lot of people over the years. However, it is important to know what he believed. Here is a brief summary. In simple terms, C.S. Lewis was an Anglo-Catholic and though dead, remains a living spokesman for ecumenism - a link to ecclesiastical reunion. The following documented facts regarding his religious beliefs speak for themselves and raise some disturbing questions about his meaning of “Christian.” 1. Lewis believed in a “Christian” purgatory after death. “Death should not deprive people of a second chance…Lewis frankly admitted believing in purgatory. To him it was a place for souls already saved but in need of purifying - purging. Lewis felt that our souls demand purgatory. Who would want to enter heaven foul and dirty? Lewis thought of the dentist’s chair. ‘I hope that when the tooth of life is drawn and I am coming round, a voice will say, ‘Rinse your mouth out with this’ This will be purgatory.’” (Kathryn Lindskoog. C.S. Lewis: Mere Christian, 4th ed. Chicago: Cornerstone Press, 1997, p. 105). 2. Lewis prayed for the dead. “Lewis could never accept the Roman Catholic practice of praying to saints…however, he emphatically believed in praying for the dead. He believed that his prayers could somehow bless them. One must remember that Lewis believed in a temporary purgatory for the blessed dead as a kind of entryway to heaven” (Lindskoog 135 based on Lewis’ Letters to Malcolm, London: Collins p. 15, 107-110). 3. Lewis believed in mystical experiences. “Rational though he was, Lewis thoroughly believed in the mystical experience, a way to go out of this world before death … mystics from all kinds of religions have much the same mystical experience” (Lindskoog, p. 197). 4. Lewis did not believe in the total inerrancy of the Bible. “Although Lewis never doubted the historicity of an account because the account was miraculous, he believed that Jonah’s whale, Noah’s ark, and Job’s boils were probably inspired stories rather than factual history” (Lindskoog, p. 199). 5. Lewis believed that Roman Catholicism is a “Christian” religion. Regarding Mere Christianity, Lewis said: “I tried to guard against this [putting forth his Anglican beliefs] by sending the original script of what is now Book II to four clergymen (Anglican, Methodist, Presbyterian, Roman Catholic) and asking for their criticism. The Methodist thought I had not said enough about Faith, and the Roman Catholic thought I had gone rather too far about the comparative unimportance of theories in explanation of the Atonement. Otherwise all five of us were agreed” (C.S. Lewis. Mere Christianity. New Jersey: Fleming Revell, 1982, p. 11). Continuing this thought, Lewis added that he “did at least succeed in presenting an agreed, or common, or central, or ‘mere’ Christianity” and congratulated himself in having helped to bridge the “chasm” between Protestant denominations and Catholicism: “If I have not directly helped the cause of reunion, I have perhaps made it clear why we ought to be reunited” (Mere Christianity, p. 12). “You will not learn from me whether you ought to become an Anglican, a Methodist, a Presbyterian, or a Roman Catholic. This omission is intentional. There is no mystery about my position…the best service I could do was to explain and defend the belief that has been common to nearly all Christians at all times” (Mere Christianity, p. 6-7). “And, whatever you do, do not start quarrelling with other people because they use a different formula from yours” (Mere Christianity, p. 284-5.) 6. Lewis accepted the Mass as being the same as Christian Communion. “There are three things that spread the Christ life to us: baptism, belief, and that mysterious action which different Christians call by different names - Holy Communion, the Mass, the Lord’s Supper …anyone who professes to teach you Christian doctrine will, in fact, tell you to use all three, and that is enough for our present purpose” (Mere Christianity, p. 108-09). In chapter 19 of his Letters to Malcolm, Lewis suggested that the Roman Catholic conception of the bread and wine becoming the actual body and blood of Christ might be just as valid as the Protestant view of the Lord’s Supper as a memorial. The conclusion? By including a so-called “Christian” purgatory in his beliefs, Lewis immediately destroys the Bible doctrine of the sufficiency of the righteousness of Christ imputed to the sinner’s account in salvation. By including Roman Catholicism under the umbrella of Christianity, and admittedly omitting its doctrines for the sake of unity, Lewis condones the heresies of the Mass, idolatry, Mariolatry, and salvation by works still taught and practised by that institution. These are not “merely” cosmetic differences between denominations as Lewis would have us believe; these make up the great divide between truth and error. According to the Scriptures, salvation by works sends souls to Hell! How can such a life and death truth be casually omitted?
Thank the Lord... I've just found you❤
I just finished listening to Beoming Mrs. Lewis, this book. ❤️
Delicious...
Love this ❤❤
Interesting that there were 2 lady names in the family meaning happy: Joy, and Merry. The Lord has an amazing sense of humor sometimes
Just ordered your book! Absolutely love CS Lewis and cannot wait to read Becoming Mrs Lewis!
I cannot stand that music; was it necessary? I think presentation of your subject was delightful enough as it is. No music necessary!
Marriage has many pains but celibacy has no pleasures…
...unless it feeds your soul by serving a Godly purpose
The interviewer and the one interviewed did a superb job! I loved CSLewis!
Thank You ❤🌿🌹🌿❤
Love this conversation! ❤
Joy Davidman was an incredible woman whom I have had the pleasure of meeting in the pages of your book. I am so thankful to God that you wrote about Joy! I had always wondered about her life. One day I would like to visit the Kilns. And where is everybody else?! I expected a thousand comments here, people!
Moro no Brasil um dia vou ai conhecer esse lugar
The lady who asked about their relationship being unhealthy obviously comes from this generation that has no understanding of what a good, normal relationship is
so he was in love with Joy when he was writing about Narnia?
To say he had nothing to do with women between his mother and Joy is simplistic. There was the whole episode of Mrs Moore.
Thoroughly enjoyed this presentation put a true perspective on C S Lewis life and faith with his much loved wife
It's now late March 2023. Here in Toronto I purchased your book at a sale at the main Reference Library for a loonie (a Canadian dollar). What a treat it was to read! I had no idea how they had met or their long correspondence. I have enjoyed Lewis's books for decades but I had no idea that Joy.was such an accomplished writer in her own right. Thank you for a glimpse into their lives together. An enjoyable read.
WOW , you two nailed "Love " at all its levels in a supernatural way that would make no sense in the natural. God is amazing in the lives of those who are seeking Him. This conversation is one of the most powerful I've ever heard in the hand of two people sensitive enough to handle the depth of it. I watched it three times and wept through it three times Many thanks for sharing your talents with us.
❤️🤗👍!!!
You can see huge intelligence in her eyes. Robin Witting England
Her son Douglas says in an interview that he also prayed for his mother and felt the Holy Spirit fill the church he was in. And then she went into remission. He attributed that to the fact that he couldn’t live in a foreign country at that young age so far away from his other parent. So Jesus answered his prayers 🙏🏼
That is indicative of apostolic unction.
really amazing video
It's not a place of history, it is a continuing community of scholars. Why is it that Americans so often see Oxford as some sort of chocolate box top, instead of understanding that it is a living thing?
Oh William how I know it is a community of scholars and a living thing. I am actually here now and nothing is more evident. This American knows what it is and most do not see it as a chocolate top box.
Thanks I always wondered glad to see it
I loved your book soooo much. I am glad to have read it after her son's Douglas' biography.
Gt chi chi by by by j JJ by by
I just finished the book and loved it. Now I want to read more! Including their publications and other books by Patti Callahan.
Superb
Rockin
I'm excited to get to read your book this summer.
This was an awesome interview! I loved the insights from everyone.
“Marriage has many pains but celibacy has no pleasures.” ~Samuel Johnson (one of C.S. Lewis’ favorite quotes)
Johnson's life seemed heartbreaking in its solitude. Emanuel Swedenborg was another bachelor - one who seemed to be quite romantic.
@@mortalclown3812 Both marriage and celibacy are great mysteries. One needs to offer up both states (speaking as one who is celibate, but who had wanted to marry for a long time. But not now.)
Does God really love when you are going through some really hard time in your life. does he cause you pain and say he doesn't want you when you get into a relationship with others people. you get in a relationship with and promble accursed. I don't know where I am with GOD he say he is not loving me he is trashing me bad for those who really love and saying I hard this person and others please let me know and understand who God really is. he say I don't belong to him he think I belong to the devil.
I wanted to hear more about Joy. Unfortunately, the erroneous anti-aetheism prejudices from the start have set the tone and put me off. 'Smoking' and 'going off the rails'. Really??? Academic credibility instantly lost. I understand that Christianity is inseparable from Joy and Jack's story, but this false and judgemental premise is disappointing. Maybe the book would be would be less biased.
This was just wonderful! I loved every minute of it. Thank you so much for the wonderful insights into C S Lewis and Joy and their life together. God bless🙏😘
This was one of the most wonderful conversations that I've had the pleasure of listening to--at the very end, Patti saying 'let's take this on the road' I couldn't agree more! moving, impactful, deeply touching... C.S. Lewis and Joy.. their stories, their life together.. their love.. all FOUR! wow)))