Finally absorbing more & more. Thank you. Question: Is it possible to use AFX effects to somehow do send effects across over 32 channels?
@erickgales9991Күн бұрын
The LA-2A is way better, so clear and crisp, the WA-2A takes all the Hi-end, I feel sad about this information because of the 4k. But yeah, at the end looking at this from the whole mix view I think both of them are nice, I would use the Wa-2a mostly for vocals
@fadygergisКүн бұрын
Absolutely!!!
@cryptocrow8082 күн бұрын
The Galaxy is the worst design of anything I've ever used in my life. Nothing against this channel I'm sure you're nice, I'm just commenting to warn people. Antelope is absolute garbage. 🗑
@dudeontour2 күн бұрын
Do you still use the Sphere now that you have moved away from UAD? if so, what's the chain you use? txs
@krex_mg2 күн бұрын
Is there a way to conect the db25 outputs to a a77h? And how do i choose if is left or right?
@cupid_quantitative3 күн бұрын
Great video! I was not sure on how to use some of the features. Can you answer a quick question. I still have my 6176. I am using it now for podcasts on zoom with groups of people. I used to have an Avalon VT-737. It sounded so much better, but i installed it at the church, ultimately donating it. Can the 6176 ever sound as warm and cushy as the vt-737? Thank you so much!
@jimsanderson41805 күн бұрын
There is another reason to change earpads; the Sennheiser come with velour earpads which get super hot in the summer and they could get very wet, switching to a leather earpad would fix that & be easy to dry off if they got a bit sweaty.
@bachelorgamer80015 күн бұрын
all your examples are only on one channel could you not show us on multi channels? (tracks)
@gabrielr43295 күн бұрын
What version of Studio rack is this? I see the Studio rack performer is $99, but not sure if it can record live through the plugins.
@fadygergis5 күн бұрын
I am using the latest version.
@Platnumbaby5 күн бұрын
Watched it and liked
@fadygergis5 күн бұрын
Awesome!
@fadygergis5 күн бұрын
Are you looking to purchase one?
@Platnumbaby5 күн бұрын
@@fadygergis 😂 sorry I got too many already. Barefoots 02, Tannoy TMD 10, Ns10 with sub, Ns5 and Genelec, oh and Avatones.
@user-os9db1ch5b5 күн бұрын
do you need a summing mixer even if you have mixing hardware ? cause i still see other mixing engineers with hardware that having summing n there studio
@fadygergis5 күн бұрын
Yeh they are different. I mix through a lot of hardware gear but I still use summing mixer.
@Platnumbaby5 күн бұрын
How you like the antelop speakers? Dont know why they green poor choice in color in my opinion but how do they sound?
@fadygergis5 күн бұрын
You should watch my video of the full review of the i8 speakers. To get all the details.
@Platnumbaby5 күн бұрын
@@fadygergis I will please watch my studio tour at Platnumbaby Studio tour. Can’t post the link but it’s about 20 min but I think you will like it. A lot of great gear. Let me know what you think
@robertokramer14565 күн бұрын
Awesome video! I wonder how to apply inserts in console. Say I wanna record thru an outboard compressor thru UAD console (instead of using a plugin in the insert slots in console, add a real hardware and monitor that as well) ... I wonder if there is a way to do that. Great video!
@fadygergis5 күн бұрын
You can but not through console. You have to route analog outputs to the compressive and bring it back to an input and record that input channel in your Daw
@misterfalur6 күн бұрын
Dankeschön! Bis jetzt das beste Tutorial zu diesem preamp, das ich gesehen habe!
@quekustix63966 күн бұрын
So basically the 4 mixers are the cues for mixing monitors? So it's kinda limited in terms of cue mixes
@fadygergis6 күн бұрын
You can route those 4 mixers to be anything you want. Monitor mix, headphone mix, control mix.
@rombsix6 күн бұрын
You Lebanese, bro? Ah ya Fedi, ah! :P
@fadygergis6 күн бұрын
No! Originally born in Egypt! Been in the states for a while now.
@rombsix6 күн бұрын
@@fadygergis - ah, I see. 🙂 Got a Zen Quadro recently. Go Antelope! 😄 (Previously had their Edge Go)
@FRANKRICECOLD2098 күн бұрын
this Is Interesting Because WAVES Just Screwed People Like Me That Paid $3000 For There Waves Digigrid DSP Audio Interface They Just Announced That With The New Waves v15 Update There Plugins Are No longer Going To Support DSP And The NEW Version Of Studio Rack That They Change The Name To Studioverse Will Not Have Direct Monitoring Ether So If I Can Get This To Work IT WILL SAVE MY ASS Thanks So Much
@Doctaj549 күн бұрын
I understand that the x16D is aimed at live sound but it still puzzles me at $3000 & $4000. Why not rework/expand the Octo Core Satellite unit by adding Dante connections for $2000 if they didn’t plan to include the multi-channel analog I/O. Call it the “Octo Core Satellite D”
@fadygergis9 күн бұрын
I know it’s priced very weird for the very limited features it has
@Doctaj549 күн бұрын
@@fadygergis I remember when the Apollo 16X was available for purchase without any extra plugins and UA stopped that option. Its only available as a Heritage Edition at a higher price. So if a current customer like myself wanted to expand my Apollo setup for more I/O I would have to look at the used market or spend the extra money for a new 16X Heritage Edition...I already have all the plugins (and optional plugins) that come with the Heritage Edition bundle. At $3000 and $4000...the X16D is just another one of those weird things. I do studio work as well as live sound using Dante(since 2015) so I clearly understand the market aim. IMO it just seems more logical to update the existing Octo-Core Satellite or X16 with Dante connections without removing the existing features. But hey, what do I know.🤐🤐🤐
@djcode698310 күн бұрын
This comparison makes no sense. UA has not created a device like the galaxy. It's for Live mixing consoles that want to use UA plugins which are better than the stock plugins used for live today. The galaxy is an analog to Dante / Dante to analog converter. It solves a different problem and is great for studios. Now what you failed to mention is that they could be used to gether so you have the anlaog inputs on the galaxy and you can use it with UA DSP plugins in the studio if you so desired. That's how these could be used together which is what I thought this video was about. Also, Sweetwater sells the x16D for 3k not 4k. These types of videos are misleading and you should tell your viewers they don't solve the same problem. I love the Galaxy but I like UA plugins too so Id get both.
@foolaround9 күн бұрын
the x16D is 3K with only 20 plugins I believe, while the 4k option is with all plugins included. Also, the x16D solves a specific problem which the Galaxy can also solve in the exact same way - they UA videos show how they connect the Apollo to a live sound mixer via Dante, and using the effects as hardware inserts. Exactly the same can be done with the Galaxy, it has 32 AFX slots with up to 8 effects on each slot sooo
@fadygergis8 күн бұрын
@foolaround true. But when you consider 16 channels vs 64 channels and all the extra I/O It’s a no brainer to go with the Galaxy
@kellygreenii8 күн бұрын
@@foolaround But not with the ultra-low latency. The value of Apollo interfaces is tied to the on-board DSP and the eco-system of UAD plugins, LUNA DAW and modeling microphones. Admittedly that value is declining in a post-M chip world of superfast processors. But the x16d is not a good value as an entry point. The device is designed for those who are already part of the ecosystem and want to have Dante compatibility to take it out for live use. If you are not already part of it? Buy something else. You’ll get better value for your money.
@djcode69836 күн бұрын
@@foolaround it doesn’t solve the UA plugins which are industry standard at low latency problem. And integrating with other UA gear if you own it. Galaxy is great and perfect for analog to Dante. It’s just not for every use case. So it’s not the exact same problem. Many engineers live and rely on UA plugins. Nobody at that level is considering Galaxy plugins when you have waves and UA offering Dante options as inserts. Not to mention getting all of your tracks into console. Also if you have something like the Rupert neve designs RMP-D8 and want low latancy UA plugins to record through, then x16D is an amazing option. Again using Galaxy with the x16D is more likely a scenario than comparing them head to head. It’s both and not either or for people that actually use dante
@djcode69836 күн бұрын
@@fadygergis 16 channels of UA plugins low latency when tracking. If you don’t need to use UA plugins while tracking then yeah I’d consider other options. But if you do, this is not the same choice.
@Blairandliamshow10 күн бұрын
It's honestly amazing how much the studio folk are oblivious to the x16D being aimed at the live sound market. It's not meant to be a AD/DA converter!
@shineliketko10 күн бұрын
Damn. I have UA and your videos are really making me consider moving on from UA. Have been curious for a while of trying Antelope, Lynx and RME but haven't seriously considered til now. Love UA's plugins but most of what I use now are all native (especially with the new ATR 102 coming out). Thanks for the video!
@BuyiswaSibisi10 күн бұрын
Didn't UAD claim that their interface can run up to 200 plugins?
@fadygergis10 күн бұрын
I used to have a hexa core X8P unit I could never run 200 plugins on it.
@beatsbymalex10 күн бұрын
How are you able to have a different buffer size in your DAW than what is in SuperRack? For example, you said you have 1024 in your DAW, but 64 in Waves SuperRack. My interface (RME Babyface Pro) only lets me set one buffer size for the whole interface. Maybe I'm missing a step? Also, props for the solution... the way I have been using this is to have 2 audio interfaces connected to the computer with one interface physically connected to the other. That way it's one interface for Waves SuperRack and another interface for my DAW. I would much rather use just one interface if I can get around the buffer issue.
@dizmix10 күн бұрын
The Apollo x16D is FREE.... You're paying for the plugins, that can be used across ALL you're UAD interfaces and everything available on spark / native.
@freshsince198510 күн бұрын
I currently have an Apollo x4 and x8p but recently I purchased the apogee symphony desktop and this unit sounds amazing soon I’m looking to trade in my uad interfaces my question is how does the galaxy interfaces compare to apogee cause apogee converters are “mastering grade “
@kevinbatchelor956610 күн бұрын
I used to think my UA interfaces were totally adequate and then I got the Apogee Symphony MKII SE and realized how much I wasn't hearing.
@fadygergis10 күн бұрын
The converters make a bit difference man.
@risingphoenix148410 күн бұрын
I agree for the money and I/O Antelope Audio is the way to go I just upgraded from a Apollo x4 to a Orion Studio Synergy Core... I would of gone with the Orion 32+ (4th gen) but I think it will be a better product next year or I will go with the Galaxy 32. The AA interfaces are more difficult to learn and to me I am still nervous about their driver. updates but so far so good with the Mac driver anyway. Note I love the software with Universal Audio, it is superior imo, it is more intuitive an aesthetically pleasing. However in an endeavor where dollars, cents, I/O and reliability matter where dollars matter more to you you can't go wrong with AA interfaces.
@fadygergis10 күн бұрын
Well said!
@pdmcrew8011 күн бұрын
8:40 RME already clarified that, there is absolutely no need for thunderbolt connections on an interface. USB 2 is more than enough. Its all about drivers, that why i have an Orion with Madi connection to my UFX and only RME is allowed to talk to my computer.
@risingphoenix148410 күн бұрын
Price matters as good as RME interfaces are they are way too expensive. You get more for you $ with AA....
@esmoroglu11 күн бұрын
Thanks so much. A look at the very new RME AD/DA converters would be great! Also the subject of a multi-brand (RME/UAD) setup. Regards from Istanbul.👏🏻👋🏼👋🏼
@cheranfriesen678011 күн бұрын
My personal thought is that the X16D is not designed to be an audio interface... i think its more targeted at getting UAD to the live space... like hooking up to digital consoles and such and using it as an effects send there. the fact that there's only 16 channels is stupid... like really stupid, but i get it, kinda, not really lol I agree that the X16D doesn't make sense in a studio, but maybe does in a live rig wanting UAD plugins.
@JimCaputoMusic11 күн бұрын
The X16D is a strange duck in that I'm not really sure who it's targeted to other than a small niche group of users. As for the conversion, I've owned the X16 which has the same converters as the X16D. I moved on from the X16 to an Avid Carbon and it was like someone lifted a blanket that was covering my monitors. It was quite a difference and all in a better direction. On paper, the UA should have been better but their convertors just don't sound as good.
@fadygergis11 күн бұрын
Agreed! I moved from my Apollo x to my Galaxy and felt exactly like you said. Someone lifted the blanket.
@bbqhamburger11 күн бұрын
I feel like the UAD was made for live sound use. Lots of other developments happening for more dsp with low latency. So UAD had to join the game
@braxal698311 күн бұрын
I like to see some comparisons with RME in the mix
@fadygergis11 күн бұрын
Yeh I yet to get my hands on some.
@caspermaster-com11 күн бұрын
There is a big distinction to be made, "analog summing" does not make any difference, if its NOT things in the path like transformers, tubes etc. This means that really, what some people like its this color from the HW, not the summing. Straight analog wire summing does nothing to the audio except what the extra conversion trip would contribute to. If you like the sound of a transformer etc you would only need a left and right version of it, not 16 mono channels of it, although the difference in tolerance from the units might make a difference, it would also be the case with just the left and right transformer in this case.
@GuiDeLima11 күн бұрын
Great sounds. What velocity curve are you using?
@joshuastam770411 күн бұрын
Could you do this video with a Stam SA-2A+? I'd be happy to send you one!
@fadygergis11 күн бұрын
Do you work for Stam Audio?
@jacksp8de11 күн бұрын
I have an X6 and X4. I like them but I am also reviewing the Neumann MT48. I think I could use AES67 to expand I/O but I think that would defeat the purpose because conversion happens in whatever the other device I'm connecting my summing box to. Thinking of getting the Neve Orbit summing but I can't really afford to get that plus external I/0. I can get 12 outputs between both of my Apollos so I would only need to buy the Neve summing box. Is that worth it with Apollo conversion? Or should I focus on getting an external converter first?
@fadygergis11 күн бұрын
It would definitely be worth it. Summing 12 channels is still much better than zero
@jacksp8de11 күн бұрын
@@fadygergis Thanks! I like the conversion of the apollos but I know there are better. I want to get a Symphony SE one day
@fadygergis11 күн бұрын
@jacksp8de I have been using the antelope converters and I absolutely love them.
@jacksp8de11 күн бұрын
@@fadygergis I’ve heard they have issues with the software so I stayed away but I can probably get somebody to send it to me to test.
@fadygergis11 күн бұрын
I have switched to them about 4 months ago and never had any issue.
@UmasPapa11 күн бұрын
I believe the SSL desks are transformerless. Also some other newer designs don't have transformers like possibly audient, somebody double-checked that
@jonobot_11 күн бұрын
Have you ever tried doing a null test on your analog summing mixer vs in the box summing. If so would you be willing to share those findings? I’m finding very little info of people doing this type of thing, and for those with limited budget and maybe a little FOMO, it would be nice to see what is ACTUALLY happening to the mix.
@fadygergis11 күн бұрын
I have done it. But I don’t have them printed. I run the signal summing path to an input on my monitor controller, and a straight stereo patch to another input and I A/B them on my monitor controller. And the summing won every time.
@precursor42638 күн бұрын
@@fadygergisplease do ;)
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios12 күн бұрын
Do you still have your Apollos? If so, how do you apply them within your studio now?
@fadygergis12 күн бұрын
I don’t anymore. I use my Galaxy now as my main unit.
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios12 күн бұрын
@@fadygergis Solid! I appreciate you, Brother. Also, I'm finally kinda getting the routing. Admittedly, part of me wishes I could toggle patch cable on & off, so I could trace patches like I'm in Reason or something. LOL
@fadygergis12 күн бұрын
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios that’s when you just get a flock audio patch 🤷♂️
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios12 күн бұрын
@@fadygergis LOL... One day, Brother. One day.
@camblackofficial12 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. I have noticed the depth that analog summing can impart. It's almost as if a 2D track becomes 3D. Have you any experience with McDSP APB? I've been considering whether to upgrade my interface to the Antelope Audio Orion 32+ and get a summing mixer like an SSL Sigma, Phoenix Audio Nicerizer/Theata, Rupert Neve 5059 or to invest in the McDSP APB which has a console as well as a bunch of other saturation, compression, limiting, tape options.
@fadygergis12 күн бұрын
I haven’t used the McDSP But if you are interested in the Orion 32+ Shoot me an email [email protected]
@camblackofficial9 күн бұрын
@@fadygergis Sent you and email
@dougweier113 күн бұрын
they totally botched what almost was a great idea
@eslisugich739315 күн бұрын
hi, great video. I was wondering if you could explain how to use an HD compressor as an insert after a unison pre-amp. thank you
@fadygergis15 күн бұрын
I have couple videos on hardware inserts on my KZread channel. You should check them out.
@eslisugich73932 күн бұрын
@@fadygergis can you please direct me to the correct video? I am on your channel looking for it and I don't see one that shows how to use a hardware compressor as an insert after a unison pre amp on the UAD console. thank you!
@fadygergis2 күн бұрын
Are you using the hardware inserts in tracking or after tracking in your daw?
@eslisugich73932 күн бұрын
@@fadygergis I would like to use it in tracking. I am not sure if it's possible. So I want to use a unison pre amp and then use a hardware compressor if possible.
@fadygergis2 күн бұрын
@eslisugich7393 what Apollo unit do you Have? There is a way to do but it’s not simple.
@ZeroG16 күн бұрын
Meanwhile I just chained together two MOTU 896HD and two 828 Mk II using a Firewire 400 to Thunderbolt 3 chain of four adapters and I have 36 analog input channels at 96khz and 16 ADAT at 96khz and it costed me $800. And with Black Lion Clock and decent input stage I guarantee you cannot tell a difference in 99% of rooms to these super overpriced units.
@imslicc16 күн бұрын
honestly, i think neumanns are more compressed, which means it sounds more "produced". seems like the transients are being shaped off.
@lesprod630217 күн бұрын
Love Antelope Audio.
@alexsantiago84618 күн бұрын
Hey Fady this just saved me from the rabbit hole I've been in for a long long while and I simply can't thank you enough. I have a question though and it pertains to your workstation. So it looks like you're using a Mac, would you tell me which model it is and how much disk space and ram you have under the hood please? Or if it's a hackintosh. Thank you so much in advance 🙂
@alexsantiago84611 күн бұрын
Please? 🙏🏽
@Telewest79218 күн бұрын
Had a zen tour it was a brick and thus I switched to Universal Audio Apollo 4 and never had a problem since and i must say if antelope had of had an after sales service worth a damn i probably would have stayed with them but they were atrocious where as Universal have been awesome with their firmware upgrade just keeps everything working as it should when you consider how much money we invest in these things.
@GiuseppeCristaudo19 күн бұрын
Hi, how can I set the routing for using a plug-on on a pre- recorded track?
@fadygergis19 күн бұрын
You would sent it to daw output. Send the daw output to the afx input. Then afx output to a daw input to print it.
@GiuseppeCristaudo19 күн бұрын
@@fadygergis thank you, I will try 😊
@GiuseppeCristaudo18 күн бұрын
@@fadygergis Hi, I can't do it. I can hear only the track with the Antelope plug-in but I don'k how to listen to it with all the other instument. How have I set the track on the DAW? It's has been recorded with input 3 and it goes out to Main. Please, could you write me all the steps? Thank you Fady
@fadygergis18 күн бұрын
@GiuseppeCristaudo send me an email and I am happy to schedule a zoom consult with you. [email protected]
@1face21 күн бұрын
Sounds amazing, Could you recommend any synth pad for worship,?
@fadygergis20 күн бұрын
You should Check the website there lots of amazing options for synth pads there.
@jonatansagerfors418722 күн бұрын
@fadygergis Hi! I have a question. I want to send my drums to channel 9-10 on my Behringer Powerplay unit, which is connected through ADAT. How do I set that up in Console? Thanks for a great and helpful video!
@fadygergis21 күн бұрын
You will have to send your drum mix to a cue then send that cue to the proper ADAT channel.
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Finally absorbing more & more. Thank you. Question: Is it possible to use AFX effects to somehow do send effects across over 32 channels?
The LA-2A is way better, so clear and crisp, the WA-2A takes all the Hi-end, I feel sad about this information because of the 4k. But yeah, at the end looking at this from the whole mix view I think both of them are nice, I would use the Wa-2a mostly for vocals
Absolutely!!!
The Galaxy is the worst design of anything I've ever used in my life. Nothing against this channel I'm sure you're nice, I'm just commenting to warn people. Antelope is absolute garbage. 🗑
Do you still use the Sphere now that you have moved away from UAD? if so, what's the chain you use? txs
Is there a way to conect the db25 outputs to a a77h? And how do i choose if is left or right?
Great video! I was not sure on how to use some of the features. Can you answer a quick question. I still have my 6176. I am using it now for podcasts on zoom with groups of people. I used to have an Avalon VT-737. It sounded so much better, but i installed it at the church, ultimately donating it. Can the 6176 ever sound as warm and cushy as the vt-737? Thank you so much!
There is another reason to change earpads; the Sennheiser come with velour earpads which get super hot in the summer and they could get very wet, switching to a leather earpad would fix that & be easy to dry off if they got a bit sweaty.
all your examples are only on one channel could you not show us on multi channels? (tracks)
What version of Studio rack is this? I see the Studio rack performer is $99, but not sure if it can record live through the plugins.
I am using the latest version.
Watched it and liked
Awesome!
Are you looking to purchase one?
@@fadygergis 😂 sorry I got too many already. Barefoots 02, Tannoy TMD 10, Ns10 with sub, Ns5 and Genelec, oh and Avatones.
do you need a summing mixer even if you have mixing hardware ? cause i still see other mixing engineers with hardware that having summing n there studio
Yeh they are different. I mix through a lot of hardware gear but I still use summing mixer.
How you like the antelop speakers? Dont know why they green poor choice in color in my opinion but how do they sound?
You should watch my video of the full review of the i8 speakers. To get all the details.
@@fadygergis I will please watch my studio tour at Platnumbaby Studio tour. Can’t post the link but it’s about 20 min but I think you will like it. A lot of great gear. Let me know what you think
Awesome video! I wonder how to apply inserts in console. Say I wanna record thru an outboard compressor thru UAD console (instead of using a plugin in the insert slots in console, add a real hardware and monitor that as well) ... I wonder if there is a way to do that. Great video!
You can but not through console. You have to route analog outputs to the compressive and bring it back to an input and record that input channel in your Daw
Dankeschön! Bis jetzt das beste Tutorial zu diesem preamp, das ich gesehen habe!
So basically the 4 mixers are the cues for mixing monitors? So it's kinda limited in terms of cue mixes
You can route those 4 mixers to be anything you want. Monitor mix, headphone mix, control mix.
You Lebanese, bro? Ah ya Fedi, ah! :P
No! Originally born in Egypt! Been in the states for a while now.
@@fadygergis - ah, I see. 🙂 Got a Zen Quadro recently. Go Antelope! 😄 (Previously had their Edge Go)
this Is Interesting Because WAVES Just Screwed People Like Me That Paid $3000 For There Waves Digigrid DSP Audio Interface They Just Announced That With The New Waves v15 Update There Plugins Are No longer Going To Support DSP And The NEW Version Of Studio Rack That They Change The Name To Studioverse Will Not Have Direct Monitoring Ether So If I Can Get This To Work IT WILL SAVE MY ASS Thanks So Much
I understand that the x16D is aimed at live sound but it still puzzles me at $3000 & $4000. Why not rework/expand the Octo Core Satellite unit by adding Dante connections for $2000 if they didn’t plan to include the multi-channel analog I/O. Call it the “Octo Core Satellite D”
I know it’s priced very weird for the very limited features it has
@@fadygergis I remember when the Apollo 16X was available for purchase without any extra plugins and UA stopped that option. Its only available as a Heritage Edition at a higher price. So if a current customer like myself wanted to expand my Apollo setup for more I/O I would have to look at the used market or spend the extra money for a new 16X Heritage Edition...I already have all the plugins (and optional plugins) that come with the Heritage Edition bundle. At $3000 and $4000...the X16D is just another one of those weird things. I do studio work as well as live sound using Dante(since 2015) so I clearly understand the market aim. IMO it just seems more logical to update the existing Octo-Core Satellite or X16 with Dante connections without removing the existing features. But hey, what do I know.🤐🤐🤐
This comparison makes no sense. UA has not created a device like the galaxy. It's for Live mixing consoles that want to use UA plugins which are better than the stock plugins used for live today. The galaxy is an analog to Dante / Dante to analog converter. It solves a different problem and is great for studios. Now what you failed to mention is that they could be used to gether so you have the anlaog inputs on the galaxy and you can use it with UA DSP plugins in the studio if you so desired. That's how these could be used together which is what I thought this video was about. Also, Sweetwater sells the x16D for 3k not 4k. These types of videos are misleading and you should tell your viewers they don't solve the same problem. I love the Galaxy but I like UA plugins too so Id get both.
the x16D is 3K with only 20 plugins I believe, while the 4k option is with all plugins included. Also, the x16D solves a specific problem which the Galaxy can also solve in the exact same way - they UA videos show how they connect the Apollo to a live sound mixer via Dante, and using the effects as hardware inserts. Exactly the same can be done with the Galaxy, it has 32 AFX slots with up to 8 effects on each slot sooo
@foolaround true. But when you consider 16 channels vs 64 channels and all the extra I/O It’s a no brainer to go with the Galaxy
@@foolaround But not with the ultra-low latency. The value of Apollo interfaces is tied to the on-board DSP and the eco-system of UAD plugins, LUNA DAW and modeling microphones. Admittedly that value is declining in a post-M chip world of superfast processors. But the x16d is not a good value as an entry point. The device is designed for those who are already part of the ecosystem and want to have Dante compatibility to take it out for live use. If you are not already part of it? Buy something else. You’ll get better value for your money.
@@foolaround it doesn’t solve the UA plugins which are industry standard at low latency problem. And integrating with other UA gear if you own it. Galaxy is great and perfect for analog to Dante. It’s just not for every use case. So it’s not the exact same problem. Many engineers live and rely on UA plugins. Nobody at that level is considering Galaxy plugins when you have waves and UA offering Dante options as inserts. Not to mention getting all of your tracks into console. Also if you have something like the Rupert neve designs RMP-D8 and want low latancy UA plugins to record through, then x16D is an amazing option. Again using Galaxy with the x16D is more likely a scenario than comparing them head to head. It’s both and not either or for people that actually use dante
@@fadygergis 16 channels of UA plugins low latency when tracking. If you don’t need to use UA plugins while tracking then yeah I’d consider other options. But if you do, this is not the same choice.
It's honestly amazing how much the studio folk are oblivious to the x16D being aimed at the live sound market. It's not meant to be a AD/DA converter!
Damn. I have UA and your videos are really making me consider moving on from UA. Have been curious for a while of trying Antelope, Lynx and RME but haven't seriously considered til now. Love UA's plugins but most of what I use now are all native (especially with the new ATR 102 coming out). Thanks for the video!
Didn't UAD claim that their interface can run up to 200 plugins?
I used to have a hexa core X8P unit I could never run 200 plugins on it.
How are you able to have a different buffer size in your DAW than what is in SuperRack? For example, you said you have 1024 in your DAW, but 64 in Waves SuperRack. My interface (RME Babyface Pro) only lets me set one buffer size for the whole interface. Maybe I'm missing a step? Also, props for the solution... the way I have been using this is to have 2 audio interfaces connected to the computer with one interface physically connected to the other. That way it's one interface for Waves SuperRack and another interface for my DAW. I would much rather use just one interface if I can get around the buffer issue.
The Apollo x16D is FREE.... You're paying for the plugins, that can be used across ALL you're UAD interfaces and everything available on spark / native.
I currently have an Apollo x4 and x8p but recently I purchased the apogee symphony desktop and this unit sounds amazing soon I’m looking to trade in my uad interfaces my question is how does the galaxy interfaces compare to apogee cause apogee converters are “mastering grade “
I used to think my UA interfaces were totally adequate and then I got the Apogee Symphony MKII SE and realized how much I wasn't hearing.
The converters make a bit difference man.
I agree for the money and I/O Antelope Audio is the way to go I just upgraded from a Apollo x4 to a Orion Studio Synergy Core... I would of gone with the Orion 32+ (4th gen) but I think it will be a better product next year or I will go with the Galaxy 32. The AA interfaces are more difficult to learn and to me I am still nervous about their driver. updates but so far so good with the Mac driver anyway. Note I love the software with Universal Audio, it is superior imo, it is more intuitive an aesthetically pleasing. However in an endeavor where dollars, cents, I/O and reliability matter where dollars matter more to you you can't go wrong with AA interfaces.
Well said!
8:40 RME already clarified that, there is absolutely no need for thunderbolt connections on an interface. USB 2 is more than enough. Its all about drivers, that why i have an Orion with Madi connection to my UFX and only RME is allowed to talk to my computer.
Price matters as good as RME interfaces are they are way too expensive. You get more for you $ with AA....
Thanks so much. A look at the very new RME AD/DA converters would be great! Also the subject of a multi-brand (RME/UAD) setup. Regards from Istanbul.👏🏻👋🏼👋🏼
My personal thought is that the X16D is not designed to be an audio interface... i think its more targeted at getting UAD to the live space... like hooking up to digital consoles and such and using it as an effects send there. the fact that there's only 16 channels is stupid... like really stupid, but i get it, kinda, not really lol I agree that the X16D doesn't make sense in a studio, but maybe does in a live rig wanting UAD plugins.
The X16D is a strange duck in that I'm not really sure who it's targeted to other than a small niche group of users. As for the conversion, I've owned the X16 which has the same converters as the X16D. I moved on from the X16 to an Avid Carbon and it was like someone lifted a blanket that was covering my monitors. It was quite a difference and all in a better direction. On paper, the UA should have been better but their convertors just don't sound as good.
Agreed! I moved from my Apollo x to my Galaxy and felt exactly like you said. Someone lifted the blanket.
I feel like the UAD was made for live sound use. Lots of other developments happening for more dsp with low latency. So UAD had to join the game
I like to see some comparisons with RME in the mix
Yeh I yet to get my hands on some.
There is a big distinction to be made, "analog summing" does not make any difference, if its NOT things in the path like transformers, tubes etc. This means that really, what some people like its this color from the HW, not the summing. Straight analog wire summing does nothing to the audio except what the extra conversion trip would contribute to. If you like the sound of a transformer etc you would only need a left and right version of it, not 16 mono channels of it, although the difference in tolerance from the units might make a difference, it would also be the case with just the left and right transformer in this case.
Great sounds. What velocity curve are you using?
Could you do this video with a Stam SA-2A+? I'd be happy to send you one!
Do you work for Stam Audio?
I have an X6 and X4. I like them but I am also reviewing the Neumann MT48. I think I could use AES67 to expand I/O but I think that would defeat the purpose because conversion happens in whatever the other device I'm connecting my summing box to. Thinking of getting the Neve Orbit summing but I can't really afford to get that plus external I/0. I can get 12 outputs between both of my Apollos so I would only need to buy the Neve summing box. Is that worth it with Apollo conversion? Or should I focus on getting an external converter first?
It would definitely be worth it. Summing 12 channels is still much better than zero
@@fadygergis Thanks! I like the conversion of the apollos but I know there are better. I want to get a Symphony SE one day
@jacksp8de I have been using the antelope converters and I absolutely love them.
@@fadygergis I’ve heard they have issues with the software so I stayed away but I can probably get somebody to send it to me to test.
I have switched to them about 4 months ago and never had any issue.
I believe the SSL desks are transformerless. Also some other newer designs don't have transformers like possibly audient, somebody double-checked that
Have you ever tried doing a null test on your analog summing mixer vs in the box summing. If so would you be willing to share those findings? I’m finding very little info of people doing this type of thing, and for those with limited budget and maybe a little FOMO, it would be nice to see what is ACTUALLY happening to the mix.
I have done it. But I don’t have them printed. I run the signal summing path to an input on my monitor controller, and a straight stereo patch to another input and I A/B them on my monitor controller. And the summing won every time.
@@fadygergisplease do ;)
Do you still have your Apollos? If so, how do you apply them within your studio now?
I don’t anymore. I use my Galaxy now as my main unit.
@@fadygergis Solid! I appreciate you, Brother. Also, I'm finally kinda getting the routing. Admittedly, part of me wishes I could toggle patch cable on & off, so I could trace patches like I'm in Reason or something. LOL
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios that’s when you just get a flock audio patch 🤷♂️
@@fadygergis LOL... One day, Brother. One day.
Thanks for the video. I have noticed the depth that analog summing can impart. It's almost as if a 2D track becomes 3D. Have you any experience with McDSP APB? I've been considering whether to upgrade my interface to the Antelope Audio Orion 32+ and get a summing mixer like an SSL Sigma, Phoenix Audio Nicerizer/Theata, Rupert Neve 5059 or to invest in the McDSP APB which has a console as well as a bunch of other saturation, compression, limiting, tape options.
I haven’t used the McDSP But if you are interested in the Orion 32+ Shoot me an email [email protected]
@@fadygergis Sent you and email
they totally botched what almost was a great idea
hi, great video. I was wondering if you could explain how to use an HD compressor as an insert after a unison pre-amp. thank you
I have couple videos on hardware inserts on my KZread channel. You should check them out.
@@fadygergis can you please direct me to the correct video? I am on your channel looking for it and I don't see one that shows how to use a hardware compressor as an insert after a unison pre amp on the UAD console. thank you!
Are you using the hardware inserts in tracking or after tracking in your daw?
@@fadygergis I would like to use it in tracking. I am not sure if it's possible. So I want to use a unison pre amp and then use a hardware compressor if possible.
@eslisugich7393 what Apollo unit do you Have? There is a way to do but it’s not simple.
Meanwhile I just chained together two MOTU 896HD and two 828 Mk II using a Firewire 400 to Thunderbolt 3 chain of four adapters and I have 36 analog input channels at 96khz and 16 ADAT at 96khz and it costed me $800. And with Black Lion Clock and decent input stage I guarantee you cannot tell a difference in 99% of rooms to these super overpriced units.
honestly, i think neumanns are more compressed, which means it sounds more "produced". seems like the transients are being shaped off.
Love Antelope Audio.
Hey Fady this just saved me from the rabbit hole I've been in for a long long while and I simply can't thank you enough. I have a question though and it pertains to your workstation. So it looks like you're using a Mac, would you tell me which model it is and how much disk space and ram you have under the hood please? Or if it's a hackintosh. Thank you so much in advance 🙂
Please? 🙏🏽
Had a zen tour it was a brick and thus I switched to Universal Audio Apollo 4 and never had a problem since and i must say if antelope had of had an after sales service worth a damn i probably would have stayed with them but they were atrocious where as Universal have been awesome with their firmware upgrade just keeps everything working as it should when you consider how much money we invest in these things.
Hi, how can I set the routing for using a plug-on on a pre- recorded track?
You would sent it to daw output. Send the daw output to the afx input. Then afx output to a daw input to print it.
@@fadygergis thank you, I will try 😊
@@fadygergis Hi, I can't do it. I can hear only the track with the Antelope plug-in but I don'k how to listen to it with all the other instument. How have I set the track on the DAW? It's has been recorded with input 3 and it goes out to Main. Please, could you write me all the steps? Thank you Fady
@GiuseppeCristaudo send me an email and I am happy to schedule a zoom consult with you. [email protected]
Sounds amazing, Could you recommend any synth pad for worship,?
You should Check the website there lots of amazing options for synth pads there.
@fadygergis Hi! I have a question. I want to send my drums to channel 9-10 on my Behringer Powerplay unit, which is connected through ADAT. How do I set that up in Console? Thanks for a great and helpful video!
You will have to send your drum mix to a cue then send that cue to the proper ADAT channel.