So does this bike suck now that you have reviewed highly a lot of other bikes since?
@lloydhixson5281Күн бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this review! I’d like to try one, but I’d have a hard time turning my back on a dw link pivot or ibis.
@DM-jh5rsКүн бұрын
Have you tried these on trails where you actually have to pedal?
@mtbyumyumКүн бұрын
Yes of course.
@pedalfaster2033Күн бұрын
Great review! I feel like you summed my life up. That’s the bike I own and as a NICA coach I was falling back (not due to age ;). I bought the Blur as a secondary bike. Similar travel numbers, but but completely different rides.
@mtbyumyumКүн бұрын
haha that's awesome! Glad you got on a faster bike! Makes a big difference and in my experience, still plenty of fun on the down hill.
@flyingnorseman2 күн бұрын
I have a TB 4. Had TB 3 before that. Huge difference between them. Prefer the TB 4 even though its 5 lbs heavier. Only issue I have is the LLVPP requires a lot more wrenching on bike to keep it running good. Have to yank the pivot axel every few months, clean and re-grease it all. Not a deal breaker but might be more than some want to mess with.
@williammeringolo65662 күн бұрын
How would you compare this to the Revel Rascal?
@pphmmr42 күн бұрын
strange EPIC EVO 7th and also new 8 using Small description SPECIALIZED and EPIC uses BIG one on Downtube. That how you can easily differs them
@davidcurtis85412 күн бұрын
Pivot trail 429 or this bike. Asking for a friend
@mtbyumyumКүн бұрын
t429
@justinhawkins11592 күн бұрын
Pivot Firebird or SB160?
@justinhawkins11592 күн бұрын
Great video, thank you.
@mtbyumyumКүн бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@travelthenarrowtrail86602 күн бұрын
Wait till you try the new Ripley. You might forget all about this Tallboy.
@drewcsmith3 күн бұрын
I love this bike and almost bought one. I found a last-year’s-model Ibis Ripley (carbon) at a killer price, so I have that instead. The Ripley is great. The TB was more upright in stance and a little more confidence inspiring downhill. Both are very versatile - plenty good climbers and more nimble than more slack bikes (something that drives me nuts), but more comfortable and confident at descending than cross country bikes. These are perfect for the flowy trails and moderate downhills that are my preference.
@mtbyumyum2 күн бұрын
Glad you found a great deal on the Ripley.... love that bike!
@jddallager16993 күн бұрын
Great, timely review Yum Yum! From the number of comments received asking your opinions on so many similar ilk bikes, you can see the credibility you have with us -- extremely high! Kudos! Gotta say, as a 77-year old Colorado NICA coach who now rides only green/blue (maybe a black every blue moon!) trails at moderate speeds, my several years old Ibis Ripley (carbon) more than exceeds my talents and .... since Rule #1 is FUN .... can't be beat! Throw some Rekons on that beauty and SMILE .... uphill and down!
@mtbyumyum2 күн бұрын
100% Truth! Enjoy that Ripley my friend!! Also love Rekons
@esshoul3 күн бұрын
Is it remarkably "Xc-faster" than standard (non evo) Stumpjumper?
@mtbyumyum2 күн бұрын
Not sure I understand your question but the stumpjumper feels faster (zippier) than the Tallboy
@esshoul2 күн бұрын
@@mtbyumyum I meant that for "big" guys if such bikes (Stumpy, Tallboy, Top fuel...) are used as non-trail bike, mainly for xc riding around... I borrowed Stumpjumper - the recent model and it definitely was very sluggish for my taste...
@alexsinbb3 күн бұрын
How does it compare to Pivot T429 on climb and descent?
@roddas263 күн бұрын
Would like to hear what Tyler thought?
@jrsj19983 күн бұрын
How do you think this bike would suite a 250 + lb rider? I previously owned a 120mm rear/130mm front bike and I definitely exhausted the travel despite dialing it in per mfg spec. I do hear the tallboy has better leverage. Thanks!
@50whatnomadtravelnursemtb53 күн бұрын
Your bike shop must love you, spending tons of money there haha. Putting new tire and parts on demo bikes? There bike lineup really blurs the lines between bikes, I’d say the Hightower or 5150 is a pure trail bike, this one is more down country
@shadrinbien69723 күн бұрын
I have a Tallboy V5 with the Cascade Link, Fox 36 140mm, and a Float X… Now a “HighBoy,” the thing rips and jumps like no other. I also have a Pivot Trail 429 and a Mach 6, but I ride my Tallboy the most. It rips
@mtbyumyum3 күн бұрын
Dang, the Highboi... I love it!
@juliangarcia-wj7gf3 күн бұрын
How would you compare the V4 to the current tallboy?
@mtbyumyum3 күн бұрын
Pretty dang similar other than I prefer the feel of the Float shock over the dps
@frankschock99813 күн бұрын
Specialized Chisel FS might be the best value xc/trail bike.
@mtbyumyum3 күн бұрын
Ibis Exie For All are on sale.... best value in the game and absolutely love that DW link on that bike!! Salt Cycles has them in Stock!! 801-943-8502
@frankschock99813 күн бұрын
@mtbyumyum Was considering the Exie but not crazy about the slack 74.5° seat tube and non adjustable geometry. I'd rather get the Ripley with the 76° seat tube and only half degree slacker head tube and only about 1lb heavier frame. Does the Exie pedal much more efficiently when you stand up and mash compared to the Exie?
@schlooonginator12273 күн бұрын
I kinda see this Tallboy as I saw the Following. Both known to handle chunk like no other 120mm bike, both heavy 6 to 7lbs frames. Why not just have the same weight penalty and get one level up 8n travel to 140mm? If that's the 8ntended terrain, why limit yourself to 120mm? If it was me I would opt for an extra 20mm travel for a bike doing burlier stuff if you are already paying a weight penalty. If you are choosing a Tallboy over a Hightower or Following over an Offering what advantages are there for 20mm less travel. More efficiency?
@mtbyumyum3 күн бұрын
This is basically the same logic I come to every time when looking at the Tallboy. Thanks
@Steve-nu9op3 күн бұрын
bike looks hella nice!
@Biggirlsneedlovingtoo3 күн бұрын
How does it feel compared to the Ibis Ripley?
@mtbyumyum3 күн бұрын
More burly, less zippy and agile... climbing the Ripley leaves it in the dust...
@user-to2rq3lt7z3 күн бұрын
Ripley AF or TB for your money? As an all-rounder?
@mtbyumyum3 күн бұрын
Dang... it's hard for me to ever pass on the Ripley... it's just so good. Although I'd go with the carbon Ripley!! Plus they're on sale right now at Salt Cycles... 801-943-8502
@user-to2rq3lt7z3 күн бұрын
@@mtbyumyum Haha. From watching your vids I thought you may go with the Ripley. I’ve owned the prev gen carbon TB and currently am on the Ripley AF. Very similar geo and trail feel. I think even the AF climbs a bit better. Both awesome trail bikes that punch above their weight! Thanks for the feedback l!
@ktmryan788h3 күн бұрын
How does it compare to the Rocky Mountain element
@dcasandman3 күн бұрын
I had a Tallboy v4. One of my favorite bikes I’ve ever owned. I may just need one when I want to have fun. Favorite bike of all time.
@mikeinternet97513 күн бұрын
More capable than a 429? From a trail bike or xc bike perspective?
@mtbyumyum3 күн бұрын
Yeah, I'd say better at higher speeds and chunk than a t429.... the t429 might be the more well rounded option though if you climb a lot... that's the difficulty with the tallboy isn't it.... it's a bike that shouldn't weigh as much as it does and should climb better..
@mikeinternet97513 күн бұрын
@mtbyumyum thank you for the reply!! Love your reviews. I have a 2017 T429 and will upgrade this summer. I'm on the east coast. Trails are long singletracks. The up is as Important as the down in this region. Looking for a good pedler that is comfortable for 2-3 hours and is not scary when the down gets technical . Considering the new 429 or a Tallboy.
@mtbyumyum3 күн бұрын
Easy, go with the T429... the climbing difference out weighs any marginal gain by the tb5 on the down hill... easy! T429!! Call the guys at Salt Cycles and get a deal on a custom build... you won't regret it! 801-943-8502
@323johnnybravo3 күн бұрын
I was between this and a Norco Fluid. The value for money was just so good on the Norco. You should demo one. Awesome bikes !!
@mtbyumyum3 күн бұрын
I have plans to demo some Norco bikes soon
@323johnnybravo3 күн бұрын
@@mtbyumyum can’t wait !!
@guipol1123 күн бұрын
Much popy than the evil following ?
@freshiesat93 күн бұрын
Thanks so much! I got my TB5 last year just before the release of the SRAM Transmission and I have been loving it and riding it hard! I got it set up with a XT drive train and it’s my everything bike. It climbs pretty well and it rips downhill through all of the trails here in Northern California. I’ve been looking forward to hearing your thoughts about the TB5 for a while now and I’m excited to hear how you compare it to so many others in the category. Thanks again.
@mtbyumyum3 күн бұрын
Yeah, what a fun bike!! Glad you're enjoying it
@Nate_K1113 күн бұрын
Finally!
@billw_mtb32203 күн бұрын
I love the Tallboy! Wish the reach on the large was just a tad longer for me.
@mtbyumyum3 күн бұрын
You sold yours right?
@billw_mtb32203 күн бұрын
@@mtbyumyum yeah I sold it for the 429 I believe.
@DB-sd3cw4 күн бұрын
Browsing the santa cruz website, it appears that every single bike is a complete rip-off considering the components you get for the price. SRAM NX on a $5k bike is absolutely wild
@mtbyumyum3 күн бұрын
Yeah, a bit on the high side.... crazy how much money bikes are these days
@brandoncollins33344 күн бұрын
How does it compare to the Spur?
@mtbyumyum4 күн бұрын
Very different from the Spur. More fun and more easy going… less serious if that makes sense… better in the corners than the spur too. Spur feels a little zippier on the climbs and more lightweight.
@pippinrush15204 күн бұрын
Fantastic! I just got off my 2020 TB and went with a new 5010cc. loving it!
@mtbyumyum4 күн бұрын
Very nice!
@hammertime77403 күн бұрын
Mullets are Magic
@danielmorawek65324 күн бұрын
I am trying to decide between this and a Transition Spur, talk about perfect timing.
@mtbyumyum4 күн бұрын
I would take just about any bike in this category over the spur. The spur is the least fun of the Bikes in this category in my experience, although it does climb better than the tallboy.
@kalegreen96953 күн бұрын
@@mtbyumyuminteresting, what makes the spur the least fun?
@mtbyumyum3 күн бұрын
Wasn't super willing to change directions, stands up in the corners, just meh for me....
@danielmorawek65323 күн бұрын
@@mtbyumyum not an easy decision. Currently riding a Norco Optic C1 but it's just too heavy for my needs. Absolute baller bike when pointed downhill, but sluggish to pedal with notable bop and a hefty weight. I want something lighter, that easier to pedal and is more tailored towards my tours. I climb everything myself, do day- and multiday-tours in the alps with the goal to do an alpX next year. However I also got used to the downhill performance of the Optic, not gonna lie.
@danielmorawek65322 күн бұрын
@@mtbyumyum I‘m now considering a RM Element as well after going through some reviews.
@matelk76574 күн бұрын
This vs RM element. Which one would you rather have for all around trail riding? I know you had an element for a while.
@mtbyumyum3 күн бұрын
The element is just lighter weight and better climbing so it’s tough to say. It doesn’t have that really plush feeling that the tallboy has though. They’re actually pretty different. Sorry I can’t be more help.
@NCdragon214 күн бұрын
have had the tallboy for the last year or so. Defiantly a good one bike to do it all, especially with a 140 fork. But, its not as good at going DH as a Hightower, or as efficient as a Ripley, Stumpjumper (or assuming Spur and Top Fuel). Selling mine though for something lighter and a better pedaling bike. Completely agree that their marketing is backwards, ive used the same explanation
@user-rj9ui3sz8u4 күн бұрын
What do you think you will get? I would check out a Cannondale Scalpel too.
@NCdragon213 күн бұрын
@@user-rj9ui3sz8u probably a spur or wait and see what the new Top Fuel will look like. Wanted the spur before but wasn’t UDH when I got my Tallboy.
@user-rj9ui3sz8u3 күн бұрын
@@NCdragon21 I had a Spur for 10 months pretty good bike! I didnt know they are coming out with a new Top Fuel already I thought they just revised it?
@Super1Matt14 күн бұрын
How does the Spur compare to this?
@himboslice_4 күн бұрын
Would love to see a comparison video to the Rippley v4s
@mtbyumyum3 күн бұрын
Man that would be great.... the Ripley just feels like a smaller more lively bike... much for agile and zippy feeling. The tb5 feels more plush and deeper feeling in the travel. Ripley climbs better, more efficient. They're really just different... the tallboy feels like a bigger more burly bike
@Ogami_Itto154 күн бұрын
I know it's been awhile, but how would you compare this to the Transition Spur? Appreciate the great content! 🤙🏽
@edlorenz15524 күн бұрын
Looks like a great bike going downhill. But if you live in the midwest and you have to climb anything it’s going to suck.
@mtbyumyum3 күн бұрын
Yeah, you're not wrong
@colingryms33732 күн бұрын
I haven't tried a new xc bike (I have an old Blur LT) and I find my Tallboy climbs OK... I do flip the shocks to half travel though.
@jben48074 күн бұрын
I have the TB 4, CC. It’s def a trail bike. So far, it has never let me down on any type of terrain. I also, put Rekons on, put it in the high position and it just came alive.
@mtbyumyum4 күн бұрын
Yep. This bike had Dissector tires.... I swapped them out for rekons and it was much better for this type of trail and bike.
@AOL03214 күн бұрын
Me too, I love my TB4 as well!
@frankbaratta96353 күн бұрын
@@mtbyumyum Rekon front e rear ?
@marcid65274 күн бұрын
That’s a good looking bike!!
@mtbyumyum4 күн бұрын
100%
@PrieraN4 күн бұрын
What do you think about Tallboy in comparing with Stumpjumper (non evo)? Stumpjumper is muuuuch lighter, so it looks like more XC-bike than Tallboy. However, some say that it is not "efficient climber" due to less sophisticated suspension design. But some say that it is very fun bike, just like some say about Tallboy =) I just want to replace my Commencal Tempo frame because I want lighter bike (Tempo frame is 3.5 kg without shock!) and want to have swat/glove box so both Tallboy and Stumjumper looks like great bikes.
@mtbyumyum4 күн бұрын
Yeah, the Stumpjumper for sure feels more zippy and light weight. Doesn't have the traction and just overall bottomless feeling the Tallboy has. I think the Stumpjuper with a float shock instead of the dps shock would be interesting to try. That said, you might look at the Ibis Ripley frame.... it's light weight and that bike is an excellent do it all short travel bike.
@duffyrides4 күн бұрын
This video is very timely ! I’m trying to decide between the Tall Boy , SB120, SB140 and Hightower. Coming from a Megatower im looking forward to a more climbing friendly and efficient trail bike.
@mtbyumyum4 күн бұрын
Well the SB140 would get you a much more efficient and quicker climbing experience and still give you almost all the travel you would ever need.... but the Tallboy just has a very fun and lively feeling for a bike that still has an almost bottomless feeling to it... very fun bike!
@duffyrides4 күн бұрын
@@mtbyumyum so you think the SB140 climbs better than the Tall Boy ? Surprised to hear that. What about how the SB120 compares ? Competitive cyclist has a huge discount right now on the SB120 , SB140 and the Hightower also.
@tjabaley4 күн бұрын
@@duffyrides im in the same boat as you. considering same bikes. wish i could demo these bikes
@felixsu26363 күн бұрын
Same boat too. I’m considering the tallboy VS SB120.
@lifebehindbarsmtb4 күн бұрын
I’d still rather my Trail 429.
@mtbyumyum4 күн бұрын
Yeah, me too
@tjabaley4 күн бұрын
@@mtbyumyum 429 looks great... wish it came in a xxl
@Ridewithneto4 күн бұрын
Thanks for reviewing this bike. Your opinion is huge for those of us who can't demo bikes so easily.
@mtbyumyum4 күн бұрын
You're welcome! It sort of sits in a category of it's own... it's similar to bikes like the Ripley and Trail 429 but doesn't climb as well and feels bigger when going at those higher speed or through chunk.
@Cartsp702 күн бұрын
@@mtbyumyum Hey Jase , do you know if there is a new Ripley on the way from Ibis ? Great review btw appreciate you 👍🏾✔️
@nickporter80044 күн бұрын
After all this time, how do these newer 120mm's stack up against the 429?
@mtbyumyum4 күн бұрын
The Pivot Trail 429 is a special bike. If I could only have one bike I could make a pretty compelling argument for the T429.... that said, the Tallboy has a more bottomless feeling. It's a softer ride and overall more easy going experience. Doesn't climb anywhere near as well as the T429. Neither bike is as zippy and lively as the Ibis Ripley but both the T429 and TB5 leave the Ripley behind on the highest speed or chunky bits of trail. The sb120 isn't even a consideration for me personally.... too heavy for what it does... I would take the TB5 over the sb120 and the T429 over just about all of them unless you're a lighter weight rider or rarely hitting the highest speeds and chunky terrain in which case I would have to go with the Ripley. Ugg.... so many good choices tho! Best case scenario, skip this entire category of bike and have two bikes..... Cannondale Scalpel and Yeti SB140 LR!!!
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So does this bike suck now that you have reviewed highly a lot of other bikes since?
I’ve been waiting for this review! I’d like to try one, but I’d have a hard time turning my back on a dw link pivot or ibis.
Have you tried these on trails where you actually have to pedal?
Yes of course.
Great review! I feel like you summed my life up. That’s the bike I own and as a NICA coach I was falling back (not due to age ;). I bought the Blur as a secondary bike. Similar travel numbers, but but completely different rides.
haha that's awesome! Glad you got on a faster bike! Makes a big difference and in my experience, still plenty of fun on the down hill.
I have a TB 4. Had TB 3 before that. Huge difference between them. Prefer the TB 4 even though its 5 lbs heavier. Only issue I have is the LLVPP requires a lot more wrenching on bike to keep it running good. Have to yank the pivot axel every few months, clean and re-grease it all. Not a deal breaker but might be more than some want to mess with.
How would you compare this to the Revel Rascal?
strange EPIC EVO 7th and also new 8 using Small description SPECIALIZED and EPIC uses BIG one on Downtube. That how you can easily differs them
Pivot trail 429 or this bike. Asking for a friend
t429
Pivot Firebird or SB160?
Great video, thank you.
Glad you liked it!
Wait till you try the new Ripley. You might forget all about this Tallboy.
I love this bike and almost bought one. I found a last-year’s-model Ibis Ripley (carbon) at a killer price, so I have that instead. The Ripley is great. The TB was more upright in stance and a little more confidence inspiring downhill. Both are very versatile - plenty good climbers and more nimble than more slack bikes (something that drives me nuts), but more comfortable and confident at descending than cross country bikes. These are perfect for the flowy trails and moderate downhills that are my preference.
Glad you found a great deal on the Ripley.... love that bike!
Great, timely review Yum Yum! From the number of comments received asking your opinions on so many similar ilk bikes, you can see the credibility you have with us -- extremely high! Kudos! Gotta say, as a 77-year old Colorado NICA coach who now rides only green/blue (maybe a black every blue moon!) trails at moderate speeds, my several years old Ibis Ripley (carbon) more than exceeds my talents and .... since Rule #1 is FUN .... can't be beat! Throw some Rekons on that beauty and SMILE .... uphill and down!
100% Truth! Enjoy that Ripley my friend!! Also love Rekons
Is it remarkably "Xc-faster" than standard (non evo) Stumpjumper?
Not sure I understand your question but the stumpjumper feels faster (zippier) than the Tallboy
@@mtbyumyum I meant that for "big" guys if such bikes (Stumpy, Tallboy, Top fuel...) are used as non-trail bike, mainly for xc riding around... I borrowed Stumpjumper - the recent model and it definitely was very sluggish for my taste...
How does it compare to Pivot T429 on climb and descent?
Would like to hear what Tyler thought?
How do you think this bike would suite a 250 + lb rider? I previously owned a 120mm rear/130mm front bike and I definitely exhausted the travel despite dialing it in per mfg spec. I do hear the tallboy has better leverage. Thanks!
Your bike shop must love you, spending tons of money there haha. Putting new tire and parts on demo bikes? There bike lineup really blurs the lines between bikes, I’d say the Hightower or 5150 is a pure trail bike, this one is more down country
I have a Tallboy V5 with the Cascade Link, Fox 36 140mm, and a Float X… Now a “HighBoy,” the thing rips and jumps like no other. I also have a Pivot Trail 429 and a Mach 6, but I ride my Tallboy the most. It rips
Dang, the Highboi... I love it!
How would you compare the V4 to the current tallboy?
Pretty dang similar other than I prefer the feel of the Float shock over the dps
Specialized Chisel FS might be the best value xc/trail bike.
Ibis Exie For All are on sale.... best value in the game and absolutely love that DW link on that bike!! Salt Cycles has them in Stock!! 801-943-8502
@mtbyumyum Was considering the Exie but not crazy about the slack 74.5° seat tube and non adjustable geometry. I'd rather get the Ripley with the 76° seat tube and only half degree slacker head tube and only about 1lb heavier frame. Does the Exie pedal much more efficiently when you stand up and mash compared to the Exie?
I kinda see this Tallboy as I saw the Following. Both known to handle chunk like no other 120mm bike, both heavy 6 to 7lbs frames. Why not just have the same weight penalty and get one level up 8n travel to 140mm? If that's the 8ntended terrain, why limit yourself to 120mm? If it was me I would opt for an extra 20mm travel for a bike doing burlier stuff if you are already paying a weight penalty. If you are choosing a Tallboy over a Hightower or Following over an Offering what advantages are there for 20mm less travel. More efficiency?
This is basically the same logic I come to every time when looking at the Tallboy. Thanks
bike looks hella nice!
How does it feel compared to the Ibis Ripley?
More burly, less zippy and agile... climbing the Ripley leaves it in the dust...
Ripley AF or TB for your money? As an all-rounder?
Dang... it's hard for me to ever pass on the Ripley... it's just so good. Although I'd go with the carbon Ripley!! Plus they're on sale right now at Salt Cycles... 801-943-8502
@@mtbyumyum Haha. From watching your vids I thought you may go with the Ripley. I’ve owned the prev gen carbon TB and currently am on the Ripley AF. Very similar geo and trail feel. I think even the AF climbs a bit better. Both awesome trail bikes that punch above their weight! Thanks for the feedback l!
How does it compare to the Rocky Mountain element
I had a Tallboy v4. One of my favorite bikes I’ve ever owned. I may just need one when I want to have fun. Favorite bike of all time.
More capable than a 429? From a trail bike or xc bike perspective?
Yeah, I'd say better at higher speeds and chunk than a t429.... the t429 might be the more well rounded option though if you climb a lot... that's the difficulty with the tallboy isn't it.... it's a bike that shouldn't weigh as much as it does and should climb better..
@mtbyumyum thank you for the reply!! Love your reviews. I have a 2017 T429 and will upgrade this summer. I'm on the east coast. Trails are long singletracks. The up is as Important as the down in this region. Looking for a good pedler that is comfortable for 2-3 hours and is not scary when the down gets technical . Considering the new 429 or a Tallboy.
Easy, go with the T429... the climbing difference out weighs any marginal gain by the tb5 on the down hill... easy! T429!! Call the guys at Salt Cycles and get a deal on a custom build... you won't regret it! 801-943-8502
I was between this and a Norco Fluid. The value for money was just so good on the Norco. You should demo one. Awesome bikes !!
I have plans to demo some Norco bikes soon
@@mtbyumyum can’t wait !!
Much popy than the evil following ?
Thanks so much! I got my TB5 last year just before the release of the SRAM Transmission and I have been loving it and riding it hard! I got it set up with a XT drive train and it’s my everything bike. It climbs pretty well and it rips downhill through all of the trails here in Northern California. I’ve been looking forward to hearing your thoughts about the TB5 for a while now and I’m excited to hear how you compare it to so many others in the category. Thanks again.
Yeah, what a fun bike!! Glad you're enjoying it
Finally!
I love the Tallboy! Wish the reach on the large was just a tad longer for me.
You sold yours right?
@@mtbyumyum yeah I sold it for the 429 I believe.
Browsing the santa cruz website, it appears that every single bike is a complete rip-off considering the components you get for the price. SRAM NX on a $5k bike is absolutely wild
Yeah, a bit on the high side.... crazy how much money bikes are these days
How does it compare to the Spur?
Very different from the Spur. More fun and more easy going… less serious if that makes sense… better in the corners than the spur too. Spur feels a little zippier on the climbs and more lightweight.
Fantastic! I just got off my 2020 TB and went with a new 5010cc. loving it!
Very nice!
Mullets are Magic
I am trying to decide between this and a Transition Spur, talk about perfect timing.
I would take just about any bike in this category over the spur. The spur is the least fun of the Bikes in this category in my experience, although it does climb better than the tallboy.
@@mtbyumyuminteresting, what makes the spur the least fun?
Wasn't super willing to change directions, stands up in the corners, just meh for me....
@@mtbyumyum not an easy decision. Currently riding a Norco Optic C1 but it's just too heavy for my needs. Absolute baller bike when pointed downhill, but sluggish to pedal with notable bop and a hefty weight. I want something lighter, that easier to pedal and is more tailored towards my tours. I climb everything myself, do day- and multiday-tours in the alps with the goal to do an alpX next year. However I also got used to the downhill performance of the Optic, not gonna lie.
@@mtbyumyum I‘m now considering a RM Element as well after going through some reviews.
This vs RM element. Which one would you rather have for all around trail riding? I know you had an element for a while.
The element is just lighter weight and better climbing so it’s tough to say. It doesn’t have that really plush feeling that the tallboy has though. They’re actually pretty different. Sorry I can’t be more help.
have had the tallboy for the last year or so. Defiantly a good one bike to do it all, especially with a 140 fork. But, its not as good at going DH as a Hightower, or as efficient as a Ripley, Stumpjumper (or assuming Spur and Top Fuel). Selling mine though for something lighter and a better pedaling bike. Completely agree that their marketing is backwards, ive used the same explanation
What do you think you will get? I would check out a Cannondale Scalpel too.
@@user-rj9ui3sz8u probably a spur or wait and see what the new Top Fuel will look like. Wanted the spur before but wasn’t UDH when I got my Tallboy.
@@NCdragon21 I had a Spur for 10 months pretty good bike! I didnt know they are coming out with a new Top Fuel already I thought they just revised it?
How does the Spur compare to this?
Would love to see a comparison video to the Rippley v4s
Man that would be great.... the Ripley just feels like a smaller more lively bike... much for agile and zippy feeling. The tb5 feels more plush and deeper feeling in the travel. Ripley climbs better, more efficient. They're really just different... the tallboy feels like a bigger more burly bike
I know it's been awhile, but how would you compare this to the Transition Spur? Appreciate the great content! 🤙🏽
Looks like a great bike going downhill. But if you live in the midwest and you have to climb anything it’s going to suck.
Yeah, you're not wrong
I haven't tried a new xc bike (I have an old Blur LT) and I find my Tallboy climbs OK... I do flip the shocks to half travel though.
I have the TB 4, CC. It’s def a trail bike. So far, it has never let me down on any type of terrain. I also, put Rekons on, put it in the high position and it just came alive.
Yep. This bike had Dissector tires.... I swapped them out for rekons and it was much better for this type of trail and bike.
Me too, I love my TB4 as well!
@@mtbyumyum Rekon front e rear ?
That’s a good looking bike!!
100%
What do you think about Tallboy in comparing with Stumpjumper (non evo)? Stumpjumper is muuuuch lighter, so it looks like more XC-bike than Tallboy. However, some say that it is not "efficient climber" due to less sophisticated suspension design. But some say that it is very fun bike, just like some say about Tallboy =) I just want to replace my Commencal Tempo frame because I want lighter bike (Tempo frame is 3.5 kg without shock!) and want to have swat/glove box so both Tallboy and Stumjumper looks like great bikes.
Yeah, the Stumpjumper for sure feels more zippy and light weight. Doesn't have the traction and just overall bottomless feeling the Tallboy has. I think the Stumpjuper with a float shock instead of the dps shock would be interesting to try. That said, you might look at the Ibis Ripley frame.... it's light weight and that bike is an excellent do it all short travel bike.
This video is very timely ! I’m trying to decide between the Tall Boy , SB120, SB140 and Hightower. Coming from a Megatower im looking forward to a more climbing friendly and efficient trail bike.
Well the SB140 would get you a much more efficient and quicker climbing experience and still give you almost all the travel you would ever need.... but the Tallboy just has a very fun and lively feeling for a bike that still has an almost bottomless feeling to it... very fun bike!
@@mtbyumyum so you think the SB140 climbs better than the Tall Boy ? Surprised to hear that. What about how the SB120 compares ? Competitive cyclist has a huge discount right now on the SB120 , SB140 and the Hightower also.
@@duffyrides im in the same boat as you. considering same bikes. wish i could demo these bikes
Same boat too. I’m considering the tallboy VS SB120.
I’d still rather my Trail 429.
Yeah, me too
@@mtbyumyum 429 looks great... wish it came in a xxl
Thanks for reviewing this bike. Your opinion is huge for those of us who can't demo bikes so easily.
You're welcome! It sort of sits in a category of it's own... it's similar to bikes like the Ripley and Trail 429 but doesn't climb as well and feels bigger when going at those higher speed or through chunk.
@@mtbyumyum Hey Jase , do you know if there is a new Ripley on the way from Ibis ? Great review btw appreciate you 👍🏾✔️
After all this time, how do these newer 120mm's stack up against the 429?
The Pivot Trail 429 is a special bike. If I could only have one bike I could make a pretty compelling argument for the T429.... that said, the Tallboy has a more bottomless feeling. It's a softer ride and overall more easy going experience. Doesn't climb anywhere near as well as the T429. Neither bike is as zippy and lively as the Ibis Ripley but both the T429 and TB5 leave the Ripley behind on the highest speed or chunky bits of trail. The sb120 isn't even a consideration for me personally.... too heavy for what it does... I would take the TB5 over the sb120 and the T429 over just about all of them unless you're a lighter weight rider or rarely hitting the highest speeds and chunky terrain in which case I would have to go with the Ripley. Ugg.... so many good choices tho! Best case scenario, skip this entire category of bike and have two bikes..... Cannondale Scalpel and Yeti SB140 LR!!!