Wait there's only 2 cons on your list. "1 for 1" and "Can't take out multiple threats" are the same thing.
@cortez4eva694 күн бұрын
There’s only 99 cards in the moxfield
@Gravecrazed5 күн бұрын
How would you beat this deck ?
@BaileeCakesMTG4 күн бұрын
Wraths, combo, sweepers
@Johanthegnarler2 күн бұрын
Board wipes shut it down hard. You become immediately the hate target in the group as well
@trueagentt6 күн бұрын
Great video man I’m running this exact deck. Thank you so much and please never take this video down :-)
@BaileeCakesMTG4 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@smashfanatic14 күн бұрын
Other counterspells to consider that I didn't see covered in this video: Wash Away - Basically 1 mana to counter any commander, but there are a surprising number of things that cast from a place not from the hand (impulse draw for example, flashback, etc.). Spell Pierce - probably more of a CEDH card where mana curves are tighter. Glen Elendra Archmage - A bit mana intensive but it is 2 negates at baseline, and if you have synergies with +1/+1 counters, or flicker/reanimation, or something to remove the -1/-1 counters, you can do it over and over again. Mystic snake - similar to Glen Elendra archmage; mana intensive, but pair with instant speed flicker or something and it can be pretty cute. Foil - For very low budget. The alt cost is pretty steep (island + another card), but I think it's under $1. Counterflux - Mana intensive, but for decks that can't or don't run a lot of counters, this helps win counter wars.
@BaileeCakesMTG13 күн бұрын
I like Wash Away a lot to counter commanders and some other things. Spell pierce is very good!!!! Glen Elendra Archmage and mystic snake seem really good with flickering effects.
@jesseknorr803718 күн бұрын
Making a Tegwyll deck that focuses around Phyrexian Altar to turn Faeries into cards and mana at instant speed, stopping by for ideas, thank you
@BaileeCakesMTG18 күн бұрын
Sounds like a cool idea for a deck!!
@DiiMoptopАй бұрын
Good update: Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, Voultborn Tyrant.
@BaileeCakesMTGАй бұрын
Dinosaurs on a spaceship is a sweet card!
@Ultimus998Ай бұрын
Another good creature to add would be the new obeka, Obeka Splitter of Seconds, Because she gives you X more upkeeps for each point of combat damage that she does to an opponent.
@Mr.SpocksBrainАй бұрын
Don’t forget that you should target yourself with the Go-Shintai of Lost Wisdom!!! Your Commander has a second ability, that might be good with a huge graveyard ;)
@Ultimus998Ай бұрын
Plus sanctum of all can search your graveyard as well
@BaileeCakesMTGАй бұрын
That's a really good idea!!
@robertterrell70572 ай бұрын
I love Sythis I just have an issue where I roll over my pod with the deck :(
@BaileeCakesMTG2 ай бұрын
Sythis is strong!!
@aklepatzky3 ай бұрын
Surveil lands always etb tapped, theres a typo on the first bullet in the C tier. I think theyre better than c tier tho, being fetchable + surveil is huge
@BaileeCakesMTG2 ай бұрын
after playing them more, I agree. They really work well as card filtering pieces in formats with fetches. I like them with bounce lands so you can get more than one surveils. I think as one offs in modern or legacy decks they are great. I wouldn't play too many in a commander deck because they do always enter tapped (unless you have amulet or spelunking)
@alexbjork79823 ай бұрын
Love a good merfolk deck! Made a similar one! How powerful would you give yours on a power scale of 1 too 10?
@danielfawcett39914 ай бұрын
In commander, Wash Away is busted. One mana to counter target commander.
@CSDragon4 ай бұрын
I think you're way off about Pathways. They're very high B tiers for me. Even if you have to choose a color, they're still untap lands and tap for whatever you need at the time. For them to ever shoot you in the foot, your deck has to have some crazy color requirements
@BaileeCakesMTG4 ай бұрын
I don't like them because they don't fix your mana and there is usually better options for two color decks
@CSDragon4 ай бұрын
@@BaileeCakesMTG I disagree, let's look at the worst case scenario, your opening hand contains 1 basic forest and 2 GB pathways, You can have access to either G or B on turn 1. You won't need access to both. And you can have GG, GB or BB on turn 2. Unless your deck has a standard play pattern of T1 Thoughtseize into T2 Leaf-Crowned Visionary, your mana is perfect. Replacing pathways with a pain land, fast land or slow land each offer extremely marginal improvement with real downsides. And in situations where you do need 3 different pips by turn 2, you would run them instead because your mana requirements are so strict.
@savinobalducci61484 ай бұрын
it's not like you didn't said it but i wanna reiterate that bounce land are good! they always draws you a card but with MDFC's and Channel Lands they actually draw you a spell! also, the Signet Lands can make your powerstones tap for actual usable mana, niche, but interesting
@BaileeCakesMTG4 ай бұрын
Bouncelands are so good in certain situations! Very interesting and versatile cards. However they do have their downsides.
@savinobalducci61484 ай бұрын
always good to take a look at all available Dual Land Cycles
@asahi434 ай бұрын
Would love a discussion about standard 😊
@asahi434 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! Looking for exactly this video
@thatguy84704 ай бұрын
Great video!! Quick question what’s you’re thoughts on the “first sliver” I’m suprised they didn’t appear here even as a commander alt
@randomstuff19324 ай бұрын
please run more lands
@markdziamski48595 ай бұрын
Tutor for Apex Altisaur with your Savage Order to get a one sided board wipe
@adamgreen60515 ай бұрын
!
@whitecat83135 ай бұрын
Do you thing that Training Grounds would be good
@BaileeCakesMTG5 ай бұрын
Yes. It would also combo well with some other cards. Training grounds+Sliver Queen+Basal sliver makes infinite mana.
@silentj0y5 ай бұрын
BTW Titan of Littjara has "Discard a card" because it was made specifically for Sliver Gravemother- so the idea was you'd discard a Sliver you want to encore with Gravemother. Fun fact and cool use for it!
@sheahon11795 ай бұрын
I just built my Gishath deck and it’s become my favorite practically overnight. In your list I noticed a few all stars that didn’t show up and a few anti-synergies (perhaps it’s YT comment bait idk). But in the interest of helping decks play smooth let me offer an insight that Marauding Raptor isn’t a may ability, so it’ll kill any 2 or less toughness creatures you play, including the Dino tokens from Bonehoard Dracosaur. And speaking of Bonehoard Dracosaur will put big Dinos into exile instead of your hand for Ghalta’s ability or any other hand dumping effect.
@BaileeCakesMTG5 ай бұрын
That is a bit of a non-synergy but I think that the two cards are strong enough to play that the downsides can be overlooked
@MTGUshuaia5 ай бұрын
Hi, can you share the list?
@aklepatzky5 ай бұрын
Oh my god the false argument about card advantage...according to the people that repeat it drawing a card is like drawing 3 cards in a multiplayer game cause youre up 1 card against each opp😂
@waynehumphries69705 ай бұрын
Didn’t even mention dormant sliver 😢 I think it’s slept on
@BaileeCakesMTG5 ай бұрын
It's good to draw cards but making all slivers have defender means they can't attack.
@waynehumphries69705 ай бұрын
@@BaileeCakesMTG pick up deck sack or bounce it once you are happy with how many cards you want to draw lol
@joshuaramos12575 ай бұрын
So i wana add vorinclex and doubling season to my sythis deck cause i wana get a win with the millennium calendar
@BaileeCakesMTG5 ай бұрын
interesting choices!!
@Dino-oh3fj5 ай бұрын
How about you put warstorm surge instead of terror of the peaks?
@BaileeCakesMTG5 ай бұрын
I forgot about that card but it's probably a better fit for this deck because it isn't a dragon deck.
@rolling.reggie5 ай бұрын
Came here to decide which to keep between Negate and Dovin's Veto and you put them in the same tier hahah
@BaileeCakesMTG5 ай бұрын
Negate is generally better but Dovin's Veto will be better if you are playing in a meta with a lot of counter magic
@fangoukulele75705 ай бұрын
As a cEDH player it's quite interesting to see you react to bog standard plays of the format with question marks. using rituals for your rocks is pretty normal since it gives you a permanent mana advantage especially when your commanders will draw you a bunch of cards. remora is outside of winning one of the best turn one plays. tymna/kraum is the best deck in the format bcs it can adapt so easily to every kind of pod. I have played games were one of the decks is a more casual deck and its usually pretty frustrating for the other players. cEDH lives off of all decks being able to contribute on the stack in some way and one or two players not being able to do that can suck. That being said most midrange or stax cEDH decks lose to big stompy bois, but if you were against a single turbo deck they would just turn 1 win against regular commander decks since there is basically no chance of their win attempt being stopped.
@TheFootballstar55885 ай бұрын
lol saying how Kraum should be better when it’s the best deck in the game 😂😂😂😂😂
@BaileeCakesMTG5 ай бұрын
It seems to have a slightly underwhelming ability for how expensive it is. Again idk much about cEDH.
@nathanielline5 ай бұрын
Sometimes just playing a deck you enjoy will be the best deck in the end.
@Theotherlostprimarch5 ай бұрын
The only people who “hate slivers” are just jealous they didn’t get their own sliver queen before the price spiked.
@alvajohnson88225 ай бұрын
That cracks me up 😂
@1980chardison8 күн бұрын
I wish I knew where my sliver binder went to over time, I had over 300 queens, among over 1000 slivers in all languages and foils and special reprints, including signed cards sad face
@SatinFoxx5 ай бұрын
The link to the Moxfield website only has 97 maindeck cards. It seems to be cards that aren't in the video, so I don't know which cards you planned to be in there.
@BaileeCakesMTG5 ай бұрын
I don't go over every card in the deck in the video. Just a general outline for the deck's strategy and how it works
@isaacholstein65305 ай бұрын
It's also very weak to flying, especially if you can't overwhelm the rest of the players early. Even if you can, you're still likely going to get chipped away by those flyers
@BaileeCakesMTG5 ай бұрын
That's true
@KairuinKorea5 ай бұрын
Yes.
@adamtrotter96126 ай бұрын
loved the video, my only question is this: In a pod experience, is it annoying to have to keep flipping and unflipping your cards?
@BaileeCakesMTG5 ай бұрын
Yes. Also annoying to have to keep track of when they flip.
@OnixGuard6 ай бұрын
As a new mtg player this video was extremely helpful in getting to know the type of werewolf cards that are out there and how they would be beneficial! Thanks 😊
@BaileeCakesMTG6 ай бұрын
Thank you. I'm glad you liked it!!!
@sumirsookdeo94436 ай бұрын
No Ferocidon, Hulking Raptor or Trumpeting Carnosaur? Also is it OK with 1 PantLaza and 3 Gishath?
@rickywilliams15866 ай бұрын
I would honestly just forget the non-daybound werewolves except the mayor. I know Tovolar helps bridge them with the new wolves but he's not gonna be there often and they're going to be much harder to get going.
@BaileeCakesMTG6 ай бұрын
Idk I like some of them but the werewolves in general are hard to flip without tovolar
@ArsisKytori6 ай бұрын
I think you forgot about Avrabruk Caretaker as best werewolves. A hex proof buffer on the front side, ALL permanents get hex proof, and all yiur creatures get 2 +1/+1 counters at start of combat on the backside.
@kniveJustice7 ай бұрын
I would suggest to replace Battlemage's bracers with Obsidian Battle-Axe since it will equip for free as Krenko is a warrior
@BaileeCakesMTG7 ай бұрын
I never knew that card existed. Such an interesting synergy. I'll definitely add that. Thank you!
@AlbertGauche7 ай бұрын
I recommend adding Mana Echoes
@eavalain7 ай бұрын
Awesome video, making a werewolf deck and saw this so it definitely helped thank you
@stamatiamrl7 ай бұрын
Great vid! How many removal spells would you suggest for the average commander deck?
@BaileeCakesMTG7 ай бұрын
Thank you! Probably depends on your decks strategy. At least 3 to 6. Also depends on your metagame.
@Kalgalanos7 ай бұрын
You know that moonmist will not transform your day-/nightbound werewolves, didnt you? I think because of that, its not a that good card in the end
@BaileeCakesMTG7 ай бұрын
What??? That doesn't make any sense. Very sad if true. I've always played the card as if it did
@Kalgalanos7 ай бұрын
@@BaileeCakesMTG its absolutly stupid, that the old and new werewolves got diffrent transform-mechanics. The same problem is, when its night, an old werewolf will not come transformed into the battlefield, just the new ones with nightbound…
@akshooter2717 ай бұрын
@BaileeCommander it's because new werewolves are day/night bound so they can't transform unless it's nights
@Burstcommand7 ай бұрын
its worth it alone for its combat effect that everyone forgets about.
@Faranthiir7 ай бұрын
It's true that Moonmist won't transform daybound creatures, but The onesided fog effect makes it still a great card anyway.
@lyteskys18 ай бұрын
I run horn of Gondor, just in case you get stuck this way you can still mass produce tokens
@BaileeCakesMTG8 ай бұрын
That's a really good option!!
@BardePhilippe.P768 ай бұрын
hatred on lathril or alphas status+cartouche of strengh+ rancor + immaculate magistrate=tons of commander dmg and elf tokens.
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Wait there's only 2 cons on your list. "1 for 1" and "Can't take out multiple threats" are the same thing.
There’s only 99 cards in the moxfield
How would you beat this deck ?
Wraths, combo, sweepers
Board wipes shut it down hard. You become immediately the hate target in the group as well
Great video man I’m running this exact deck. Thank you so much and please never take this video down :-)
Thank you!
Other counterspells to consider that I didn't see covered in this video: Wash Away - Basically 1 mana to counter any commander, but there are a surprising number of things that cast from a place not from the hand (impulse draw for example, flashback, etc.). Spell Pierce - probably more of a CEDH card where mana curves are tighter. Glen Elendra Archmage - A bit mana intensive but it is 2 negates at baseline, and if you have synergies with +1/+1 counters, or flicker/reanimation, or something to remove the -1/-1 counters, you can do it over and over again. Mystic snake - similar to Glen Elendra archmage; mana intensive, but pair with instant speed flicker or something and it can be pretty cute. Foil - For very low budget. The alt cost is pretty steep (island + another card), but I think it's under $1. Counterflux - Mana intensive, but for decks that can't or don't run a lot of counters, this helps win counter wars.
I like Wash Away a lot to counter commanders and some other things. Spell pierce is very good!!!! Glen Elendra Archmage and mystic snake seem really good with flickering effects.
Making a Tegwyll deck that focuses around Phyrexian Altar to turn Faeries into cards and mana at instant speed, stopping by for ideas, thank you
Sounds like a cool idea for a deck!!
Good update: Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, Voultborn Tyrant.
Dinosaurs on a spaceship is a sweet card!
Another good creature to add would be the new obeka, Obeka Splitter of Seconds, Because she gives you X more upkeeps for each point of combat damage that she does to an opponent.
Don’t forget that you should target yourself with the Go-Shintai of Lost Wisdom!!! Your Commander has a second ability, that might be good with a huge graveyard ;)
Plus sanctum of all can search your graveyard as well
That's a really good idea!!
I love Sythis I just have an issue where I roll over my pod with the deck :(
Sythis is strong!!
Surveil lands always etb tapped, theres a typo on the first bullet in the C tier. I think theyre better than c tier tho, being fetchable + surveil is huge
after playing them more, I agree. They really work well as card filtering pieces in formats with fetches. I like them with bounce lands so you can get more than one surveils. I think as one offs in modern or legacy decks they are great. I wouldn't play too many in a commander deck because they do always enter tapped (unless you have amulet or spelunking)
Love a good merfolk deck! Made a similar one! How powerful would you give yours on a power scale of 1 too 10?
In commander, Wash Away is busted. One mana to counter target commander.
I think you're way off about Pathways. They're very high B tiers for me. Even if you have to choose a color, they're still untap lands and tap for whatever you need at the time. For them to ever shoot you in the foot, your deck has to have some crazy color requirements
I don't like them because they don't fix your mana and there is usually better options for two color decks
@@BaileeCakesMTG I disagree, let's look at the worst case scenario, your opening hand contains 1 basic forest and 2 GB pathways, You can have access to either G or B on turn 1. You won't need access to both. And you can have GG, GB or BB on turn 2. Unless your deck has a standard play pattern of T1 Thoughtseize into T2 Leaf-Crowned Visionary, your mana is perfect. Replacing pathways with a pain land, fast land or slow land each offer extremely marginal improvement with real downsides. And in situations where you do need 3 different pips by turn 2, you would run them instead because your mana requirements are so strict.
it's not like you didn't said it but i wanna reiterate that bounce land are good! they always draws you a card but with MDFC's and Channel Lands they actually draw you a spell! also, the Signet Lands can make your powerstones tap for actual usable mana, niche, but interesting
Bouncelands are so good in certain situations! Very interesting and versatile cards. However they do have their downsides.
always good to take a look at all available Dual Land Cycles
Would love a discussion about standard 😊
Thank you for this! Looking for exactly this video
Great video!! Quick question what’s you’re thoughts on the “first sliver” I’m suprised they didn’t appear here even as a commander alt
please run more lands
Tutor for Apex Altisaur with your Savage Order to get a one sided board wipe
!
Do you thing that Training Grounds would be good
Yes. It would also combo well with some other cards. Training grounds+Sliver Queen+Basal sliver makes infinite mana.
BTW Titan of Littjara has "Discard a card" because it was made specifically for Sliver Gravemother- so the idea was you'd discard a Sliver you want to encore with Gravemother. Fun fact and cool use for it!
I just built my Gishath deck and it’s become my favorite practically overnight. In your list I noticed a few all stars that didn’t show up and a few anti-synergies (perhaps it’s YT comment bait idk). But in the interest of helping decks play smooth let me offer an insight that Marauding Raptor isn’t a may ability, so it’ll kill any 2 or less toughness creatures you play, including the Dino tokens from Bonehoard Dracosaur. And speaking of Bonehoard Dracosaur will put big Dinos into exile instead of your hand for Ghalta’s ability or any other hand dumping effect.
That is a bit of a non-synergy but I think that the two cards are strong enough to play that the downsides can be overlooked
Hi, can you share the list?
Oh my god the false argument about card advantage...according to the people that repeat it drawing a card is like drawing 3 cards in a multiplayer game cause youre up 1 card against each opp😂
Didn’t even mention dormant sliver 😢 I think it’s slept on
It's good to draw cards but making all slivers have defender means they can't attack.
@@BaileeCakesMTG pick up deck sack or bounce it once you are happy with how many cards you want to draw lol
So i wana add vorinclex and doubling season to my sythis deck cause i wana get a win with the millennium calendar
interesting choices!!
How about you put warstorm surge instead of terror of the peaks?
I forgot about that card but it's probably a better fit for this deck because it isn't a dragon deck.
Came here to decide which to keep between Negate and Dovin's Veto and you put them in the same tier hahah
Negate is generally better but Dovin's Veto will be better if you are playing in a meta with a lot of counter magic
As a cEDH player it's quite interesting to see you react to bog standard plays of the format with question marks. using rituals for your rocks is pretty normal since it gives you a permanent mana advantage especially when your commanders will draw you a bunch of cards. remora is outside of winning one of the best turn one plays. tymna/kraum is the best deck in the format bcs it can adapt so easily to every kind of pod. I have played games were one of the decks is a more casual deck and its usually pretty frustrating for the other players. cEDH lives off of all decks being able to contribute on the stack in some way and one or two players not being able to do that can suck. That being said most midrange or stax cEDH decks lose to big stompy bois, but if you were against a single turbo deck they would just turn 1 win against regular commander decks since there is basically no chance of their win attempt being stopped.
lol saying how Kraum should be better when it’s the best deck in the game 😂😂😂😂😂
It seems to have a slightly underwhelming ability for how expensive it is. Again idk much about cEDH.
Sometimes just playing a deck you enjoy will be the best deck in the end.
The only people who “hate slivers” are just jealous they didn’t get their own sliver queen before the price spiked.
That cracks me up 😂
I wish I knew where my sliver binder went to over time, I had over 300 queens, among over 1000 slivers in all languages and foils and special reprints, including signed cards sad face
The link to the Moxfield website only has 97 maindeck cards. It seems to be cards that aren't in the video, so I don't know which cards you planned to be in there.
I don't go over every card in the deck in the video. Just a general outline for the deck's strategy and how it works
It's also very weak to flying, especially if you can't overwhelm the rest of the players early. Even if you can, you're still likely going to get chipped away by those flyers
That's true
Yes.
loved the video, my only question is this: In a pod experience, is it annoying to have to keep flipping and unflipping your cards?
Yes. Also annoying to have to keep track of when they flip.
As a new mtg player this video was extremely helpful in getting to know the type of werewolf cards that are out there and how they would be beneficial! Thanks 😊
Thank you. I'm glad you liked it!!!
No Ferocidon, Hulking Raptor or Trumpeting Carnosaur? Also is it OK with 1 PantLaza and 3 Gishath?
I would honestly just forget the non-daybound werewolves except the mayor. I know Tovolar helps bridge them with the new wolves but he's not gonna be there often and they're going to be much harder to get going.
Idk I like some of them but the werewolves in general are hard to flip without tovolar
I think you forgot about Avrabruk Caretaker as best werewolves. A hex proof buffer on the front side, ALL permanents get hex proof, and all yiur creatures get 2 +1/+1 counters at start of combat on the backside.
I would suggest to replace Battlemage's bracers with Obsidian Battle-Axe since it will equip for free as Krenko is a warrior
I never knew that card existed. Such an interesting synergy. I'll definitely add that. Thank you!
I recommend adding Mana Echoes
Awesome video, making a werewolf deck and saw this so it definitely helped thank you
Great vid! How many removal spells would you suggest for the average commander deck?
Thank you! Probably depends on your decks strategy. At least 3 to 6. Also depends on your metagame.
You know that moonmist will not transform your day-/nightbound werewolves, didnt you? I think because of that, its not a that good card in the end
What??? That doesn't make any sense. Very sad if true. I've always played the card as if it did
@@BaileeCakesMTG its absolutly stupid, that the old and new werewolves got diffrent transform-mechanics. The same problem is, when its night, an old werewolf will not come transformed into the battlefield, just the new ones with nightbound…
@BaileeCommander it's because new werewolves are day/night bound so they can't transform unless it's nights
its worth it alone for its combat effect that everyone forgets about.
It's true that Moonmist won't transform daybound creatures, but The onesided fog effect makes it still a great card anyway.
I run horn of Gondor, just in case you get stuck this way you can still mass produce tokens
That's a really good option!!
hatred on lathril or alphas status+cartouche of strengh+ rancor + immaculate magistrate=tons of commander dmg and elf tokens.
That's a really good idea!!