Wade was better than kobe in 2011 and 2010 stop it
@connorn210Күн бұрын
I love these bro keep it up
@HenryHoops2 күн бұрын
hit me up!
@twincitybulldogclub5 күн бұрын
Kat 1, Booker 2, Dlo 3, Porzingis 4.
@ltbsports5 күн бұрын
Love your content man. Keep going!
@ClayTorres696 күн бұрын
Only the media and the jealous franchises say that Wby rookie.season is a waste. Hahahaha. Keep getting jealous. Masuya ma deadz.
@JoeSmith-zi9kg6 күн бұрын
I wouldn’t accelerate the rebuild but I would be looking to add some older vets such as Chris Paul to help Tre Jones grow more in the point guard position without competing for the starting position. I would also add other vets with a lesser role to help the other young players grow.
@guy01167 күн бұрын
The 2nd one definitely wasn't a Travel, he's entitled to the ability to gather the ball. I don't think you can say he had possession of the ball conclusively when he takes those first steps.
@JM-dn6gb7 күн бұрын
NBA has become a show it’s all about what’s going to get more views more action what’s better for viewer ratings it’s all about money the nba is not free for the players coaches trainers helpers and fans it’s all about the money follow the 💰
@aclem766211 күн бұрын
It’s funny Murray is one of the lowest But hit a game winner 😮😮 Stats don’t tell everything
@BKDog123412 күн бұрын
Why isn’t he talking about Westbrook 😂
@ellisonyoutube765112 күн бұрын
Who’s the guy at the very bottom
@Jh-fi5im12 күн бұрын
Probably Tobias Harris
@zackcohen435812 күн бұрын
I wonder where Isiah hartenstein lands on this bro been doggin
@IamNotTrey12 күн бұрын
Curry and MJ are the only two players to create a top 4 dynasty with 1 top 75/superstar teammate.
@hendesu12 күн бұрын
Amazing Video! I wonder what number is McDaniels?
@james_edits1224 күн бұрын
the herro was pretty hard to see but the other two are ridiculous
@jaredsikes111725 күн бұрын
I remember one year the rockets had 4 guys with 19+. Bonus for anybody who knows which season I'm talking about
@xIpyschoIx27 күн бұрын
I wish you hight light most of the big time plays (jokic embid lebron kd aside from luka and curry damn near look like a rainbow)
@xIpyschoIx27 күн бұрын
Crazy no nuggets players at all but that are the top of the league jokic is something special
@josephdecker707928 күн бұрын
Yeah but this isn’t necessarily how good they are, since they could just be on a bad team that’s always behind in points right?
@ryanmahrenholz394427 күн бұрын
Player point differential is different than team differential. The numbers could be slightly inflated by teammates by them missing a defensive assignment but the point scored is counted toward the other player because they tried to help, but for the most part this is representative of each individual’s offensive points scored to defensive points given up
@josephdecker707927 күн бұрын
@@ryanmahrenholz3944 ah okay, thank you for clarifying
@ronaldrenearmstrong987229 күн бұрын
NOW OKC AND ROCKETS SLOWLY BUILDING DYNASRIES WITHOUT GENERATIONAL PLAYER
@ronaldrenearmstrong987229 күн бұрын
HELL NO!!! HISTORICALLY SPURS BUILD DYNASTIES THROUGH THE DRAFT. IT TOOK TONY PARKER 3 YEARS TO BECOME VERY GOOD.
@DunningKrugerJnr29 күн бұрын
Such a pointless stat
@Christusolus27 күн бұрын
uh no
@zachgottheimer649929 күн бұрын
So if jokic was the lead for that wouldn’t that make mpj or any other team or starter one be 2nd 3rd 4th
@rlc776629 күн бұрын
Celtics dominating
@greggassen554829 күн бұрын
4 out of the 5 nuggets starting five in the top 15. Only missing Murray
@kchuenАй бұрын
How was the Porzingis situatino even comparable? The Mavs had no assets and had to make a high risk high reward play with a start that was very injury proned. Spurs don't have to do anything like that.
@kavindra1977Ай бұрын
VW will stay in SAS contrarely to AD
@jerkfckАй бұрын
They would be dumb, if they didn't do this.
@pepegalvan_Ай бұрын
The video has Spurs on it's title, but talk about them like 5%
@ClayHalesАй бұрын
I saw someone mention San Antonio drafting Nikola Topic to get their PG, and then trading for Markkanen. Having a young 6'6" PG, Vassell, Sochan, Markkanen and Wembanyama as your starting unit would be interesting.
@gabrielcarrasco907822 күн бұрын
I wouldn't. To me Dillingham or Topic. Then trading for an Annonuby, Herb Jones, or Avidja would be better. Wemby just needs better supporting cast.
@texitocfydАй бұрын
So, my question is, do we have a example of a rush build that was successful? I can't believe that there's none.
@gabrielcarrasco907822 күн бұрын
Lakers with Davis.
@staple72Ай бұрын
Really great points on the topic, however Wemby is a special case. In the history of the NBA, most 7foot bigmen peaked early and can decline earlier than any other players due to being prone to injury. I think the right moment to have aggressive trades is around Wemby's 3rd or 4th season.
@wt7553Ай бұрын
One think to consider is the Spurs have a ton of draft capital the next two years. They have 3-6 firsts and 4 seconds in 2024 and 2025. So they have to make some trades to consolidate their roster. I’ve been arguing the Spurs should make some type of trade to move ill-fitting players like Johnson and Collins and “excess” heavily protected picks to get a vet wing and create more playing time for their promising young players. This video has me thinking that’s either too much or a happy medium between trading for Young or Mitchell.
@lovesickowАй бұрын
the issue with this video is that it cherrypicked specific instances within the modern era, when wemby doesnt compare to any modern era rookie (just look at the stats or watch him play, he is 5× better than rookie AD n thats from an AD dck rider), with a player like wemby his prime is already here, wasting it would be criminal, the key is getting a genuinely proven and established talent not sum1 else who is young and "promising" like holiday or porzingas who have proven to be 3rd or 4th options at best on winning teams, sum1 like trae who is a proven #1 n will b asked to do less than he did in atl is different than holiday or porzingas who were young "promising" talents who never developed into who they were expected to be. Instead why dont we compare him to another defensive great, who also played wit the spurs, Tim Duncan, he got a speed rebuild but i forget how that went...... oh yeaaa 5 rings.....
@Wha2lesАй бұрын
I don't care if Spurs lose and go into the lottery for 2025 if that is their plan. I just hope it is less painful to watch...
@CivtexАй бұрын
All these observers are just observers,let PATFO do what they do, if these observers were so great then let them run an basketball org on their own
@user-yz3ss5wx7zАй бұрын
You just sportswashed the GSW history... How the hello do you forget that Durant was the MVP in two of their rings?
@BABYTREE123Ай бұрын
with peace and love i cant listen to this ai voice
@ricardoherrera4042Ай бұрын
I say 2025 they will make moves. I'd stay put. This draft is ass and next is expected to be better.
@london8615Ай бұрын
The end basically highlights that the Spurs should sign Trae Young since it took Jordan & LeBron the signings of two other MVPs for them to win the first chip. When Wembanyama on a team that practically play like they hate him, a future HOF is needed.
@valis14Ай бұрын
This whole premise is flawed and specious, because you're leaving out some glaring omissions. Jrue Holiday won a ring. Kristaps will likely get one this off-season. INJURIES not talent really derailed them, though I concede that KP had chemistry issues w/Luka. But Holiday was absolutely not the problem in NO. Also, how could you leave out Miami and Cleveland in the LeBron era? Cleveland isn't some free agent destination.They basically scuttled the majority of their rosters for a chance at a ring -- and they got them. To not call the Miami Heat Heatles a dynasty is a little odd -- like Pat Riley said, it was a Broadway show 4 straight years, 4 straight trips to the Finals. Cleveland went to the Finals 4 straight times with the aforementioned Kevin Love. And that's not even including the most egregious example of going all in that paid off -- the 2019 Toronto Raptors led by their mercurial, mercenary superstar Kawhi Leonard, a real sore spot for Spurs Nation. But you try and tell any Raptors fan that they're championship is a fraud, that their team has been basically rebuilding since Kawhi left, that Kawhi backstabbed them worse than he did SA, that their GM blew all their chips, and they will fight you to the death. Because for them, winning that one ring means everything, that they have a banner and that ring lasts forever. And in a way, they're right. All this talk about what a great job OKC is doing now -- what has OKC won in the Presti era again? Oh, right -- nothing. One WCF Division banner in 2011. That's it. We'll see if they even that war chest of draft picks they have coming in -- SGA is a max guy, Holmgren will be a max guy, J-Dub will be a max guy, Giddey will be pricey and there's your 3 max salary slots and you better hope that core can go the distance. Gary Parrish made a really great point about Wemby the other day -- there's all this debate about whether Victor is DPOY, but the overwhelming majority of it is tied to the Spurs record, that if the Spurs even had a modicum of a better record, somewhere closer to a late lottery team -- which Vegas projected, Sean Elliott, many people around the Spurs -- Victor would take that award, so theoretically, the Spurs already cost Wemby that DPOY trophy. The fact is this Spurs roster was overestimated and underperformed, the Sochan experiment was a disaster and made the poor guy, a solid 2nd-year player, the laughing stock of the league for awhile, and of course, the Spurs were neck-and-neck w/Detroit much of the year as the worst team in the league. In fact, the Spurs were only 2 games better. So yes, the Spurs FO didn't do any favors for Victor this year with this roster and if they try running it back by being frugal -- which is a synonym for small-market franchises especially those owned by a bottom-of-the-barrel net worth owner like the Holt family -- then the Spurs will absolutely test the fanbase, and eventually, Victor's patience. Even SGA in his first year in OKC got Chris Paul to mentor him and they made the playoffs! Ideally, you'll have. mix of both approaches. Boston's team, it's core, was built through the draft, even if we're only talking about 2 players. Even Marcus Smart is gone. The rest of their starting lineup was brought through trades. And the Spurs already have those guys in Wemby and Vassell. Trading for a guy like Young isn't going to stop them from developing players -- they've done it w/Jones, Sochan, Barlow, Wesley, Malaki, and will continue to do so. Trae would cost some draft capital, sure, but they're still going to be picking up and developing guys -- they're just not going to be doing it in the early lottery every year, congratulations, that's called the Wemby effect. And those TOR, ATL and CHI picks have protections that keep them from being too high -- in the form of literal protections and of course, with ATL ownership, with it's stated desire to be competitive. So "accelerate" is a relative term because you're literally starting from the sub-basement -- just a competent roster is an acceleration.
@happysavy9296Ай бұрын
Do the media and just NBA fans not realize the Spurs are going to do what ever it takes to Keep Wemby in San Antonio. This will happen in the office season but it will take some time. Now that Wemby has shown everyone that he is NBA ready and more just for his 1st season there will be players wanting to play in San Antonio and create a dynasty. It just does not happen over night. GO SPURS GO!!!!
@dont-sub-to-me-157Ай бұрын
Wemby will likely be a spurs player for his whole career
@ed8018Ай бұрын
100% agree. The 2025 draft looks like it could be absolutely pivotal for the Spurs.
@matthewpauley138Ай бұрын
Imagine if they draft Bronny this year and get LeBron also. I believe they’d get a ring
@ghostbravo7127Ай бұрын
Pop is LeBron's favorite coach in the NBA, and the one he respects the most, he has said many times over the years. It really could happen. If it isn't the Lakers, then I think the Spurs have the next best chance.
@hesar1975Ай бұрын
to be winning, first you need to learn how to lose and improve, it is hard learning process but it is necessary IMHO for great players, that is what is happening now to Wemby
@samwaeilyousif2865Ай бұрын
I say run it back with another rookie and see how they do try to sign veterans to a two year deal to help you win Next season might be a better season with 35-45 wins at that moment you can upgrade your weakest positions and get a better players also the following year, there could be better players on the market
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How do u not have more subs?
Wade was better than kobe in 2011 and 2010 stop it
I love these bro keep it up
hit me up!
Kat 1, Booker 2, Dlo 3, Porzingis 4.
Love your content man. Keep going!
Only the media and the jealous franchises say that Wby rookie.season is a waste. Hahahaha. Keep getting jealous. Masuya ma deadz.
I wouldn’t accelerate the rebuild but I would be looking to add some older vets such as Chris Paul to help Tre Jones grow more in the point guard position without competing for the starting position. I would also add other vets with a lesser role to help the other young players grow.
The 2nd one definitely wasn't a Travel, he's entitled to the ability to gather the ball. I don't think you can say he had possession of the ball conclusively when he takes those first steps.
NBA has become a show it’s all about what’s going to get more views more action what’s better for viewer ratings it’s all about money the nba is not free for the players coaches trainers helpers and fans it’s all about the money follow the 💰
It’s funny Murray is one of the lowest But hit a game winner 😮😮 Stats don’t tell everything
Why isn’t he talking about Westbrook 😂
Who’s the guy at the very bottom
Probably Tobias Harris
I wonder where Isiah hartenstein lands on this bro been doggin
Curry and MJ are the only two players to create a top 4 dynasty with 1 top 75/superstar teammate.
Amazing Video! I wonder what number is McDaniels?
the herro was pretty hard to see but the other two are ridiculous
I remember one year the rockets had 4 guys with 19+. Bonus for anybody who knows which season I'm talking about
I wish you hight light most of the big time plays (jokic embid lebron kd aside from luka and curry damn near look like a rainbow)
Crazy no nuggets players at all but that are the top of the league jokic is something special
Yeah but this isn’t necessarily how good they are, since they could just be on a bad team that’s always behind in points right?
Player point differential is different than team differential. The numbers could be slightly inflated by teammates by them missing a defensive assignment but the point scored is counted toward the other player because they tried to help, but for the most part this is representative of each individual’s offensive points scored to defensive points given up
@@ryanmahrenholz3944 ah okay, thank you for clarifying
NOW OKC AND ROCKETS SLOWLY BUILDING DYNASRIES WITHOUT GENERATIONAL PLAYER
HELL NO!!! HISTORICALLY SPURS BUILD DYNASTIES THROUGH THE DRAFT. IT TOOK TONY PARKER 3 YEARS TO BECOME VERY GOOD.
Such a pointless stat
uh no
So if jokic was the lead for that wouldn’t that make mpj or any other team or starter one be 2nd 3rd 4th
Celtics dominating
4 out of the 5 nuggets starting five in the top 15. Only missing Murray
How was the Porzingis situatino even comparable? The Mavs had no assets and had to make a high risk high reward play with a start that was very injury proned. Spurs don't have to do anything like that.
VW will stay in SAS contrarely to AD
They would be dumb, if they didn't do this.
The video has Spurs on it's title, but talk about them like 5%
I saw someone mention San Antonio drafting Nikola Topic to get their PG, and then trading for Markkanen. Having a young 6'6" PG, Vassell, Sochan, Markkanen and Wembanyama as your starting unit would be interesting.
I wouldn't. To me Dillingham or Topic. Then trading for an Annonuby, Herb Jones, or Avidja would be better. Wemby just needs better supporting cast.
So, my question is, do we have a example of a rush build that was successful? I can't believe that there's none.
Lakers with Davis.
Really great points on the topic, however Wemby is a special case. In the history of the NBA, most 7foot bigmen peaked early and can decline earlier than any other players due to being prone to injury. I think the right moment to have aggressive trades is around Wemby's 3rd or 4th season.
One think to consider is the Spurs have a ton of draft capital the next two years. They have 3-6 firsts and 4 seconds in 2024 and 2025. So they have to make some trades to consolidate their roster. I’ve been arguing the Spurs should make some type of trade to move ill-fitting players like Johnson and Collins and “excess” heavily protected picks to get a vet wing and create more playing time for their promising young players. This video has me thinking that’s either too much or a happy medium between trading for Young or Mitchell.
the issue with this video is that it cherrypicked specific instances within the modern era, when wemby doesnt compare to any modern era rookie (just look at the stats or watch him play, he is 5× better than rookie AD n thats from an AD dck rider), with a player like wemby his prime is already here, wasting it would be criminal, the key is getting a genuinely proven and established talent not sum1 else who is young and "promising" like holiday or porzingas who have proven to be 3rd or 4th options at best on winning teams, sum1 like trae who is a proven #1 n will b asked to do less than he did in atl is different than holiday or porzingas who were young "promising" talents who never developed into who they were expected to be. Instead why dont we compare him to another defensive great, who also played wit the spurs, Tim Duncan, he got a speed rebuild but i forget how that went...... oh yeaaa 5 rings.....
I don't care if Spurs lose and go into the lottery for 2025 if that is their plan. I just hope it is less painful to watch...
All these observers are just observers,let PATFO do what they do, if these observers were so great then let them run an basketball org on their own
You just sportswashed the GSW history... How the hello do you forget that Durant was the MVP in two of their rings?
with peace and love i cant listen to this ai voice
I say 2025 they will make moves. I'd stay put. This draft is ass and next is expected to be better.
The end basically highlights that the Spurs should sign Trae Young since it took Jordan & LeBron the signings of two other MVPs for them to win the first chip. When Wembanyama on a team that practically play like they hate him, a future HOF is needed.
This whole premise is flawed and specious, because you're leaving out some glaring omissions. Jrue Holiday won a ring. Kristaps will likely get one this off-season. INJURIES not talent really derailed them, though I concede that KP had chemistry issues w/Luka. But Holiday was absolutely not the problem in NO. Also, how could you leave out Miami and Cleveland in the LeBron era? Cleveland isn't some free agent destination.They basically scuttled the majority of their rosters for a chance at a ring -- and they got them. To not call the Miami Heat Heatles a dynasty is a little odd -- like Pat Riley said, it was a Broadway show 4 straight years, 4 straight trips to the Finals. Cleveland went to the Finals 4 straight times with the aforementioned Kevin Love. And that's not even including the most egregious example of going all in that paid off -- the 2019 Toronto Raptors led by their mercurial, mercenary superstar Kawhi Leonard, a real sore spot for Spurs Nation. But you try and tell any Raptors fan that they're championship is a fraud, that their team has been basically rebuilding since Kawhi left, that Kawhi backstabbed them worse than he did SA, that their GM blew all their chips, and they will fight you to the death. Because for them, winning that one ring means everything, that they have a banner and that ring lasts forever. And in a way, they're right. All this talk about what a great job OKC is doing now -- what has OKC won in the Presti era again? Oh, right -- nothing. One WCF Division banner in 2011. That's it. We'll see if they even that war chest of draft picks they have coming in -- SGA is a max guy, Holmgren will be a max guy, J-Dub will be a max guy, Giddey will be pricey and there's your 3 max salary slots and you better hope that core can go the distance. Gary Parrish made a really great point about Wemby the other day -- there's all this debate about whether Victor is DPOY, but the overwhelming majority of it is tied to the Spurs record, that if the Spurs even had a modicum of a better record, somewhere closer to a late lottery team -- which Vegas projected, Sean Elliott, many people around the Spurs -- Victor would take that award, so theoretically, the Spurs already cost Wemby that DPOY trophy. The fact is this Spurs roster was overestimated and underperformed, the Sochan experiment was a disaster and made the poor guy, a solid 2nd-year player, the laughing stock of the league for awhile, and of course, the Spurs were neck-and-neck w/Detroit much of the year as the worst team in the league. In fact, the Spurs were only 2 games better. So yes, the Spurs FO didn't do any favors for Victor this year with this roster and if they try running it back by being frugal -- which is a synonym for small-market franchises especially those owned by a bottom-of-the-barrel net worth owner like the Holt family -- then the Spurs will absolutely test the fanbase, and eventually, Victor's patience. Even SGA in his first year in OKC got Chris Paul to mentor him and they made the playoffs! Ideally, you'll have. mix of both approaches. Boston's team, it's core, was built through the draft, even if we're only talking about 2 players. Even Marcus Smart is gone. The rest of their starting lineup was brought through trades. And the Spurs already have those guys in Wemby and Vassell. Trading for a guy like Young isn't going to stop them from developing players -- they've done it w/Jones, Sochan, Barlow, Wesley, Malaki, and will continue to do so. Trae would cost some draft capital, sure, but they're still going to be picking up and developing guys -- they're just not going to be doing it in the early lottery every year, congratulations, that's called the Wemby effect. And those TOR, ATL and CHI picks have protections that keep them from being too high -- in the form of literal protections and of course, with ATL ownership, with it's stated desire to be competitive. So "accelerate" is a relative term because you're literally starting from the sub-basement -- just a competent roster is an acceleration.
Do the media and just NBA fans not realize the Spurs are going to do what ever it takes to Keep Wemby in San Antonio. This will happen in the office season but it will take some time. Now that Wemby has shown everyone that he is NBA ready and more just for his 1st season there will be players wanting to play in San Antonio and create a dynasty. It just does not happen over night. GO SPURS GO!!!!
Wemby will likely be a spurs player for his whole career
100% agree. The 2025 draft looks like it could be absolutely pivotal for the Spurs.
Imagine if they draft Bronny this year and get LeBron also. I believe they’d get a ring
Pop is LeBron's favorite coach in the NBA, and the one he respects the most, he has said many times over the years. It really could happen. If it isn't the Lakers, then I think the Spurs have the next best chance.
to be winning, first you need to learn how to lose and improve, it is hard learning process but it is necessary IMHO for great players, that is what is happening now to Wemby
I say run it back with another rookie and see how they do try to sign veterans to a two year deal to help you win Next season might be a better season with 35-45 wins at that moment you can upgrade your weakest positions and get a better players also the following year, there could be better players on the market