20:26 "Blame culture" is very poor word choice. I would call it "accountability culture" myself.
@Robertoknowit8 күн бұрын
Ask yourself where did the extra amount of people come from trying to watch the match and the transport who took them to the stadium,they never came from Liverpool but why.
@kenny8328 күн бұрын
Masonic cover up
@share4god15 күн бұрын
awesome！thank you
@Roy-gi5ul15 күн бұрын
Thatcher is surely getting her just rewards if there is an afterlife - a true enemy of the people and she will be forever reviled by all right-minded😊citizens.
@MarkHarrison73313 күн бұрын
Labour closed far more coal mines, and betrayed the striking miners in 1984-85.
@nickxcore7418 күн бұрын
My Dad’s side of my family are from the mining background in County Durham. I’ll never ever forgive what Thatcher did to the miners and the mining community, because she decimated parts of this community. Thatcher turned mining towns into areas of high unemployment, depression, poverty and addiction. I’ll never forgive the way the Police treated the miners at Orgreave either, they behaved like a bunch of fascist thugs. I was proud to march with the miners as a kid, as I know many other people were.
@MarkHarrison73313 күн бұрын
Coal mining should have been phased out during the 1960s. The Soviet agent Wilson closed twice as many coal mines.
@philipjarvis597922 күн бұрын
Was there....is was bremners fag.
@andrewpalmer754227 күн бұрын
My grandad worked at metro vicks , till he was made redundant back in late 60,s , unfortunately he passed away in 1972 so only have the stories and memories from my late father .
@mfitzy100Ай бұрын
Was political policing- total disgrace to attack working men like this
@MarkHarrison73319 күн бұрын
The strike was illegal.
@clarkpegasus4001Ай бұрын
I was there in the Trent End, Forest V Leeds. I was very young and it was unpleasant but nobody got killed.
@hugoagogo9435Ай бұрын
32 years later?? Fk off. Jesus how many scousers are going to try claiming that. They would be better admitting their share of the blame
@YBM2007Ай бұрын
Wasnt their fault, H'borough had several incidents throughout the 80s, the police who failed to ensure crowd safety that day was unfortunately way more effective in waging a smear campaign vs L'pool fans in the following years
@YouTubemessedupmyhandleАй бұрын
32 years later and there are still idiots like you.
@stuartmcburney6462Ай бұрын
Fa cup final?
@KidarWolfАй бұрын
I was just three years old when this happened. I have vague recollections of the news speaking of something awful from when I was that age. It wasn't until I was much older that I learned more about this. It has made me very sensitive and aware of my surroundings, and of the safety of others around me. It was a terrible thing to happen, it should never have happened, and it should never have been covered up. The world needed to know the actual truth long before it was finally acknowledged correctly by those in power - how can you prevent something like this happening again if you are not truthful, and complete, in an explanation of the event? Every time I hear of a crush, I get so angry that steps that could have been taken to mitigate it were clearly not taken. We, as a species, can, and must, do better at accountability, at investigation, at learning the lessons, and making changes based on the lessons we have learned. No person in a crush will ever walk alone. Because to me, every one of them matters. They always will.
@jjeannef227Ай бұрын
@3:00 What is wrong with this woman's horrific neck and face? Was she a victim or victimized? UK needs do do better documentaries and policing.
@thefivepoints2 ай бұрын
Looking forward to Heysel: The Truth.
@fotisboys2 ай бұрын
I was watching this game live from Australia with my dad.My Father got up covered the TV with his whole boys and turned to TV off.I asked why you turning off the TV dad we a finally watching a actual live game which never happened in Australia unless it was a FA,cup final he said" son something horrible is happening not a riot but people look like are getting crushed I don't want to you to see this". My dad unplugged the TV and took it with him so I don't get the urge to watch what was happening.. Shocking absolutely shocking..
@davidsaxon86602 ай бұрын
Please don't forget ibrox in 1971 from a celtic fan
@marksavage11082 ай бұрын
That dirty sun writer, allegations and then to title it ``the truth``. i was agast my rats arse. dirty scum,
@user-sp5pi9pg6x2 ай бұрын
Rip to the 97 gone but never forgotten manchester united fan
@user-sp5pi9pg6x2 ай бұрын
There was a incident at the same ground in 1981
@kjw75562 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but fans need to be held accountable.
@YouTubemessedupmyhandleАй бұрын
For going to a football match.
@MarkHarrison7332 ай бұрын
The truth is that the Liverpool fans caused all of the deaths.
@user-rp5vr6sc1u2 ай бұрын
The police did the statements as a Mail Merge.
@user-rp5vr6sc1u2 ай бұрын
You have to ask yourself, why the police let so many pickets through, when they were turning pickets around in Nottingham, then they let pickets through, to try out their tactics, which they had trained for.
@user-rp5vr6sc1u2 ай бұрын
MI5 acted as Agent Provocateurs, they started the throwing of bricks, it was a test case at Babbington, and honed at Orgreave.
@user-rp5vr6sc1u2 ай бұрын
They did the same at Babbington, where MI5 infiltrated pickets, posing as students, just so the police could justify their actions.
@mcfcguvnors2 ай бұрын
13:00 just broke me :( 16:00 infuriated me
@alezandercorben41222 ай бұрын
YNWA 97
@melgrant74042 ай бұрын
No justice done .
@MarkHarrison7332 ай бұрын
An illegal strike was never going to stop progress.
@Kill--alllll---IDF3 ай бұрын
Da mazlims have token over
@itchytoenails2 ай бұрын
Womp womp mate
@jali20123 ай бұрын
Absolute tragedy. The world knows the truth now. 😢 Micheal Mansfield QC seems to always deal with these injustice cases where police have lied. He dealt with Stephen Lawrence's murder too. Respect 🫡
@mcfcguvnors2 ай бұрын
Hes currently reviewing the Jeremy Bamber case & Mickey Steele that says theres some substance to them , hes very rich ,but a bloody good QC
@amandaj.barnes59193 ай бұрын
It appears Prince Harry can get justice, 97 Fans never will.
@amandaj.barnes59193 ай бұрын
Declared an accident from the start before an investigation.
@2207733 ай бұрын
All my support and sympathy to those who died or suffered. I'm a Scottish Rangers man, I grew up knowing all about what happened at Ibrox in 1971, so I was immediately sympathetic to these people. To be honest, this one was much worse: at Ibrox people simply piled up on each other because of a sudden surge of people coming back up on an old and obsolete staircase; here instead a policeman commander first took such a stupid and dangerous decision and then told lies to the press, after having sealed the tragic death of so many people. Honestly again, the very decision to put Liverpool fans in such a narrow end of that stadium was the first cause for this mayhem. I've no peculiar link to Liverpool FC, I don't like its links with Celtic, the often common 'victimising Irishness' they share, I'm a proud working-class (former) Labour voting Scot and I know how much we Scots suffered the same amount of rubbish the Irish who came here suffered, yet we've always been treated as the guilty ones just because we were Scottish and didn't want the Irish to come in and threaten our jobs... it was A WAR BETWEEN THE POOR! Victimising attitudes are stranger to my way of living and to Scotland in general, we're still treated like 'fascists' or Tories because we needed to defend our jobs, yet we've come apart from that shit and all the fuss about bigotry in Scotland is well over, both Celtic and Rangers fans generally vote left-wing nowadays, the only reminders of bigotry are shown in the Auld Firm matches, but that's just banter, ongoing banter. This is what too many Celtic fans don't get and they still seek revenge, so they spread fake news regarding us lot and too many people all around the UK and Europe now treat us like 'fascist bastards', I cannot stand that. Never mind, despite all this, I felt immediately close to the people of Liverpool and the LFC fans who died that day, not yet knowing what had caused all that chaos. We were told LFC fans had pushed barriers down to enter the ground thus overcrowding it, we had no knowledge of what Duckinfield had done, yet I felt immediately close to the LFC lot and felt SO ANGRY. It was EVIDENT people had been put in the WRONG PLACE and were dying as a result of that decision. Anyway, Glasgow and Liverpool share many things, we're both shipyard working-class left-wing people, that's where we come from, no matter you're English and we're Scots. Justice for the 96.
@velocijammer14543 ай бұрын
Bro really just said: “Welp I’m going to Grillby’s”
@bertcert9913 ай бұрын
I went to a league cup match against Manchester United in 1982 looking for my seat a steward said sorry mate that seat doesn’t exist anymore the state of football in those days the back of the stand was dark and what it was like that terrible day I just can’t imagine. I went to the match against Leyton Orient last season it was the nearest match to the anniversary very moving rest in peace all
@derflucas82583 ай бұрын
Wwqqq w
@user-dc7mt4nz4m3 ай бұрын
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@HeroOfTime26103 ай бұрын
this is the most British video ever, man gets hit by double-decker bus, gets back up unfazed and just heads into pub
@neilgraves50693 ай бұрын
A absolute disgrace .. two struggles one fight JFT97 JUSTICE for Orgreave 🔥
@MarkHarrison7332 ай бұрын
The Liverpool fans caused all of the deaths.
@terrystephens86033 ай бұрын
No police were ever prosecuted.Hope Maggie is rotting in hell.
@marcturner36473 ай бұрын
We always will do, 👍👍👍
@JamesRichards-mj9kw3 ай бұрын
We were too lenient against the illegal strikers.
@DarrenThirlaway-zd2mr3 ай бұрын
Getting fucking sick ov Google twats
@DarrenThirlaway-zd2mr3 ай бұрын
Police gestapo nazis
@steve-r-collier4 ай бұрын
The book, serialised by the Guardian today and tomorrow, reveals there had been at least eight other fires at business premises either owned by, or connected to, Stafford Heginbotham, Bradford’s then-chairman, in the previous 18 years, resulting in huge insurance claims. Fletcher does not make any direct allegations but he does believe Heginbotham’s history with fires, resulting in payouts of around £27m in today’s terms, warranted further investigation. “Could any man really be as unlucky as Heginbotham had been?” he asks.
@JamesRichards-mj9kw4 ай бұрын
Scargill began a fight he could not win, and in the process destroyed the NUM.
@thedualtransition60704 ай бұрын
He could have easily won if the Nottinghamshire scabs had come out on strike. Then those idiots had their pits closed in the 1990s, dumb ruling class tools.
@JamesRichards-mj9kw3 ай бұрын
@@thedualtransition6070 Why woud they have supported an illegal strike?
@thedualtransition60703 ай бұрын
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw The strike was not illegal under the actual NUM rules. If they had voted for the strike it would also not have been illegal. Instead they simply helped the state destroy their own jobs! Seems that you have an opinion and want to make the facts fit it.
@JamesRichards-mj9kw3 ай бұрын
@@thedualtransition6070 The strike was ruled illegal as no national ballot was held. Over a fifth of miners continued working from the very beginning.
@MarkHarrison7332 ай бұрын
@@thedualtransition6070 The strike was clearly illegal, which is why so many miners refused to support it.
@PredictedCyborg4 ай бұрын
Always love it when the Beeb news cameras go for a wander. xD
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20:26 "Blame culture" is very poor word choice. I would call it "accountability culture" myself.
Ask yourself where did the extra amount of people come from trying to watch the match and the transport who took them to the stadium,they never came from Liverpool but why.
Masonic cover up
awesome！thank you
Thatcher is surely getting her just rewards if there is an afterlife - a true enemy of the people and she will be forever reviled by all right-minded😊citizens.
Labour closed far more coal mines, and betrayed the striking miners in 1984-85.
My Dad’s side of my family are from the mining background in County Durham. I’ll never ever forgive what Thatcher did to the miners and the mining community, because she decimated parts of this community. Thatcher turned mining towns into areas of high unemployment, depression, poverty and addiction. I’ll never forgive the way the Police treated the miners at Orgreave either, they behaved like a bunch of fascist thugs. I was proud to march with the miners as a kid, as I know many other people were.
Coal mining should have been phased out during the 1960s. The Soviet agent Wilson closed twice as many coal mines.
Was there....is was bremners fag.
My grandad worked at metro vicks , till he was made redundant back in late 60,s , unfortunately he passed away in 1972 so only have the stories and memories from my late father .
Was political policing- total disgrace to attack working men like this
The strike was illegal.
I was there in the Trent End, Forest V Leeds. I was very young and it was unpleasant but nobody got killed.
32 years later?? Fk off. Jesus how many scousers are going to try claiming that. They would be better admitting their share of the blame
Wasnt their fault, H'borough had several incidents throughout the 80s, the police who failed to ensure crowd safety that day was unfortunately way more effective in waging a smear campaign vs L'pool fans in the following years
32 years later and there are still idiots like you.
Fa cup final?
I was just three years old when this happened. I have vague recollections of the news speaking of something awful from when I was that age. It wasn't until I was much older that I learned more about this. It has made me very sensitive and aware of my surroundings, and of the safety of others around me. It was a terrible thing to happen, it should never have happened, and it should never have been covered up. The world needed to know the actual truth long before it was finally acknowledged correctly by those in power - how can you prevent something like this happening again if you are not truthful, and complete, in an explanation of the event? Every time I hear of a crush, I get so angry that steps that could have been taken to mitigate it were clearly not taken. We, as a species, can, and must, do better at accountability, at investigation, at learning the lessons, and making changes based on the lessons we have learned. No person in a crush will ever walk alone. Because to me, every one of them matters. They always will.
@3:00 What is wrong with this woman's horrific neck and face? Was she a victim or victimized? UK needs do do better documentaries and policing.
Looking forward to Heysel: The Truth.
I was watching this game live from Australia with my dad.My Father got up covered the TV with his whole boys and turned to TV off.I asked why you turning off the TV dad we a finally watching a actual live game which never happened in Australia unless it was a FA,cup final he said" son something horrible is happening not a riot but people look like are getting crushed I don't want to you to see this". My dad unplugged the TV and took it with him so I don't get the urge to watch what was happening.. Shocking absolutely shocking..
Please don't forget ibrox in 1971 from a celtic fan
That dirty sun writer, allegations and then to title it ``the truth``. i was agast my rats arse. dirty scum,
Rip to the 97 gone but never forgotten manchester united fan
There was a incident at the same ground in 1981
I’m sorry but fans need to be held accountable.
For going to a football match.
The truth is that the Liverpool fans caused all of the deaths.
The police did the statements as a Mail Merge.
You have to ask yourself, why the police let so many pickets through, when they were turning pickets around in Nottingham, then they let pickets through, to try out their tactics, which they had trained for.
MI5 acted as Agent Provocateurs, they started the throwing of bricks, it was a test case at Babbington, and honed at Orgreave.
They did the same at Babbington, where MI5 infiltrated pickets, posing as students, just so the police could justify their actions.
13:00 just broke me :( 16:00 infuriated me
YNWA 97
No justice done .
An illegal strike was never going to stop progress.
Da mazlims have token over
Womp womp mate
Absolute tragedy. The world knows the truth now. 😢 Micheal Mansfield QC seems to always deal with these injustice cases where police have lied. He dealt with Stephen Lawrence's murder too. Respect 🫡
Hes currently reviewing the Jeremy Bamber case & Mickey Steele that says theres some substance to them , hes very rich ,but a bloody good QC
It appears Prince Harry can get justice, 97 Fans never will.
Declared an accident from the start before an investigation.
All my support and sympathy to those who died or suffered. I'm a Scottish Rangers man, I grew up knowing all about what happened at Ibrox in 1971, so I was immediately sympathetic to these people. To be honest, this one was much worse: at Ibrox people simply piled up on each other because of a sudden surge of people coming back up on an old and obsolete staircase; here instead a policeman commander first took such a stupid and dangerous decision and then told lies to the press, after having sealed the tragic death of so many people. Honestly again, the very decision to put Liverpool fans in such a narrow end of that stadium was the first cause for this mayhem. I've no peculiar link to Liverpool FC, I don't like its links with Celtic, the often common 'victimising Irishness' they share, I'm a proud working-class (former) Labour voting Scot and I know how much we Scots suffered the same amount of rubbish the Irish who came here suffered, yet we've always been treated as the guilty ones just because we were Scottish and didn't want the Irish to come in and threaten our jobs... it was A WAR BETWEEN THE POOR! Victimising attitudes are stranger to my way of living and to Scotland in general, we're still treated like 'fascists' or Tories because we needed to defend our jobs, yet we've come apart from that shit and all the fuss about bigotry in Scotland is well over, both Celtic and Rangers fans generally vote left-wing nowadays, the only reminders of bigotry are shown in the Auld Firm matches, but that's just banter, ongoing banter. This is what too many Celtic fans don't get and they still seek revenge, so they spread fake news regarding us lot and too many people all around the UK and Europe now treat us like 'fascist bastards', I cannot stand that. Never mind, despite all this, I felt immediately close to the people of Liverpool and the LFC fans who died that day, not yet knowing what had caused all that chaos. We were told LFC fans had pushed barriers down to enter the ground thus overcrowding it, we had no knowledge of what Duckinfield had done, yet I felt immediately close to the LFC lot and felt SO ANGRY. It was EVIDENT people had been put in the WRONG PLACE and were dying as a result of that decision. Anyway, Glasgow and Liverpool share many things, we're both shipyard working-class left-wing people, that's where we come from, no matter you're English and we're Scots. Justice for the 96.
Bro really just said: “Welp I’m going to Grillby’s”
I went to a league cup match against Manchester United in 1982 looking for my seat a steward said sorry mate that seat doesn’t exist anymore the state of football in those days the back of the stand was dark and what it was like that terrible day I just can’t imagine. I went to the match against Leyton Orient last season it was the nearest match to the anniversary very moving rest in peace all
Wwqqq w
（滿載滿載）
this is the most British video ever, man gets hit by double-decker bus, gets back up unfazed and just heads into pub
A absolute disgrace .. two struggles one fight JFT97 JUSTICE for Orgreave 🔥
The Liverpool fans caused all of the deaths.
No police were ever prosecuted.Hope Maggie is rotting in hell.
We always will do, 👍👍👍
We were too lenient against the illegal strikers.
Getting fucking sick ov Google twats
Police gestapo nazis
The book, serialised by the Guardian today and tomorrow, reveals there had been at least eight other fires at business premises either owned by, or connected to, Stafford Heginbotham, Bradford’s then-chairman, in the previous 18 years, resulting in huge insurance claims. Fletcher does not make any direct allegations but he does believe Heginbotham’s history with fires, resulting in payouts of around £27m in today’s terms, warranted further investigation. “Could any man really be as unlucky as Heginbotham had been?” he asks.
Scargill began a fight he could not win, and in the process destroyed the NUM.
He could have easily won if the Nottinghamshire scabs had come out on strike. Then those idiots had their pits closed in the 1990s, dumb ruling class tools.
@@thedualtransition6070 Why woud they have supported an illegal strike?
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw The strike was not illegal under the actual NUM rules. If they had voted for the strike it would also not have been illegal. Instead they simply helped the state destroy their own jobs! Seems that you have an opinion and want to make the facts fit it.
@@thedualtransition6070 The strike was ruled illegal as no national ballot was held. Over a fifth of miners continued working from the very beginning.
@@thedualtransition6070 The strike was clearly illegal, which is why so many miners refused to support it.
Always love it when the Beeb news cameras go for a wander. xD
Bro got up as of it was nothing