you may like Behringer because its cheap but Behringer does not target the professional intrumentalist, their more like sales people, is like the Aldi Of musical intruments, they will break down sooner or later, mine has on 3 occasions. You will also find that the logic chips will start failing and your illumination LEDS on the sliders will start to fail, that would be the first sign. The swithces are somewhat flimsy and the PCB is a very poor flexing chinese design, doing repairs I noticed a lot of dried soldered joints and sloppy work, markings of flux residue everywhere, dark spots, not very neat. This syth is also not an ideal live performing intrument on stage because it is very fiddley and cant see all buttons and knobs at a glance, the sliders make it more difficult to perform live, but as a studio or a hobby peice it is alright to have, becasue it is cheap, sound close to the Arp and prices have come down further on the them... Now imagine Roland or Yamaha Doing same thing, it would be pointless and shame to their name....and all musical intrumental palyers in the world would fail on stage...
@andreash39065 ай бұрын
Been wanting to get a K2 to pair with my Neutron for quite some time now. But this makes me consider a second Neutron instead... Damnit, too many options 😀 Great video! Ps. Lfo is prewired to Mult, no need to patch that connection. 🙂
@glenesis5 ай бұрын
Hi! So cool! I have two of em. Great swiss army knife of a machine. The patching power is just insane.
@jaker4ster5 ай бұрын
I needed this. Thank you!
@silkee6 ай бұрын
The Deepmind 12 I have has low output. Haven't tried the balanced outs though so wondering if it's similar issue.
@jitterbuba7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this tutorial. My first week with Odyssey... To be honest; I wanted to return it after 2 days... and I'm not new to synths. Bought it on Friday and swore I'll took it back first thing on Monday... But Sunday jam... magic started to happen. Still far away from knowing what I'm doing... sometimes it will hold a tone indefinitely without even holding a key... and sometimes sound just cuts off when feeding it with sequencer... it is not broken probably... it's lack of my understanding analogue synthesis I guess. Wish there is someone who can explain me the signal path and what influences what... and in what order. Today I left it running for about an hour on the same sequence and sound was constantly evolving... making those 16 notes sound like a pro player.
@housebandthexenos25697 ай бұрын
Yes there is someone, me! I teach this kind of stuff for a living. I can give you a complete run through of everything, even the weird stuff like the sample and hold mixer which is also for stuff that's funny enough, not sample and hold. I can take you one on one thru the complete basics to the most advanced. I generally charge about $50 pr hr, and we can easily do this on zoom. Thanks for recognizing this no talking video IS a tutorial. I introduce and explore concepts in order. I've been teaching/coaching studio engineers and synthesists about 25 years. There is just one thing on the Odyssey that I don't work with so I don't know it is the internal sequencer. I never find internal sequencers that are just notes very interesting. I love hardware and have tons of it but for sequencing, I'm a daw guy. The computer just does so much more. This is just my opinion though and I "get" the other side of things that whole dawless craze but I'm just not into it. Internal sequencer can be good for holding a loop during live performance. Also I don't know if you noticed but I have this Behringer Odyssey emergency guide as well. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hoyI2sSiZMyxc9Y.htmlsi=jt9QZaQ60JUm0sj-
@jitterbuba7 ай бұрын
@@housebandthexenos2569 Thank you for the teaching offer. I will seriously consider it but first I need to spend some more alone time with it and maybe it's already time to get that Welsh's synth cookbook. I'm not using internal sequencer but Yamaha Tenori-on, because I did not take time to check the manual yet. Now I see how little I know about synthesis. One question if I may... Odyssey's PSU is plugged in a splitter with 10 plugs and running. Then I plugged phone charger in that splitter and sound drastically changed... is this normal? Any suggestions? Best regards.
@housebandthexenos25697 ай бұрын
@@jitterbuba how much does it's sound change and what does it become? I'm not an electrical expert by any means but I can tell you having multiple items plugged into one wall outlet is exactly the way to go. Doing it any other way will create a ground loop in your audio as ground now will travel back through your gear to get to the other outlet. Notice I said outlet and not socket. Multiple sockets on the same outlet is fine. Plugging tons of stuff ganged with surge protectors seems the most par for the course way and I've been doing it for decades. You gotta remember how much a wall outlet or cord or surge protector can take is all about the amps. Can the tiny drain of a phone charger change the sound of the synth? hmm interesting. Many times with chasing electrical ghosts, like hum caused from a dimmer elsewhere in the house or a fridge without knowing about it, the only way to go is process of elimination or trying random stuff till eventually you find that if you just plug the fishtank in somewhere else... Change in tone can be crazy, and even changes day to day and hour to hour. I print mixes from analog mixers. Print one, then print again 2 hours later without touching anything, sounds diff. Should I buy better Furmans? Maybe lol but not that Neve 8816 summing mixer. Much Analog stuff is just raw and wild in its variation even from note to note for reasons I certainly can't explain sometimes lol. That's why we love it.
@darrenmackay253610 ай бұрын
I recently bought 3 more neutrons, arrived this past week, so now have 4. This is the kind of thing I want to play with! Absolutely amazing sound you have there too!
@omarbonifacino338110 ай бұрын
Great tutorial friend
@housebandthexenos256910 ай бұрын
Thank you for recognizing what this video is! I start at tuning the simplest sound and introduce more sophisticated concepts slowly till I'm exploring the edges of what the Odyssey can do, with now the understanding by the viewer of how (I hope) and not by saying a single word. I've been contemplating making a series of videos like this. Do you think if I did some plugin synths people would like it?
@old_romans11 ай бұрын
sounds like a 2600
@housebandthexenos256911 ай бұрын
U can do alot of the same sounds but a big difference with the 2600 is that the Neutron has a 12db 2 pole filter instead of the 24db 4 pole of the 2600 and Moog Modular as well. Having a 2 pole let's more of the stuff above the cutoff point thru, and that let's you hear more of the massive 6 osc stack's midrange detail to be heard. Also more fm upper harmonics etc. I have run this 3x neutron stack thru a Behringer Model D filter and envelope and then it is, well, more Moogy.
@TheDavidPoole11 ай бұрын
ARP was always rather quirky, but to me that's part of the appeal. The 2600 flummoxed a lot of people, and the 2500 is a pure strumpet but boy do they sound good! And, yeah, this video is still goin' strong! Thanks!
@housebandthexenos256911 ай бұрын
I have a B 2600 and still haven't tried the lag processors. Lol
@TheDavidPoole11 ай бұрын
@@housebandthexenos2569 i know the feeling. Ive got a 2600, Odyssey, Neutron, Wasp delux, RD6, RD9, TD3, Deepmind 12, digitakt, evolver, mopho, dark energy, and a bunch of stuff all in boxes! I currently have no room due to Kids moving out and filling the house with "stuff"! Its been like 18 months and theres no end in sight! AAAAARRRRGGHH!!!🤬 I can't really blame them. I need to get my finger out😔
@JenModulates Жыл бұрын
This sounds amazing! I have two neutrons…guess who’s getting another now! Thanks for the great video 😊
@archivestereo Жыл бұрын
This is actually really helpful
@koosfockens1707 Жыл бұрын
how do you control them? I see no midi connection being used, are you controlling this with CV or with the rear USB connection?
@housebandthexenos2569 Жыл бұрын
I'm using a 3x USB cables and 3x midi tracks, one to each unit. You could just use a midi cable to one unit though and daisy chain midi thru to the rest.l and just use one daw track. I believe the midi out can have a thru function set in the Synth Tribe app if I remember correctly
@koosfockens1707 Жыл бұрын
@@housebandthexenos2569 thank you do you use a USB hub of some kind as a lot of USB devices need to be connected directly to some (powered) connection or hub with it's own power supply.
@housebandthexenos2569 Жыл бұрын
@@koosfockens1707 yes, a hub is fine but before the hub not a bad idea to put a USB electrical isolator. This prevents computer noise from going thru the USB and mix with audio of unit. Not essential, but some computers (and USB ports) are noisier than others. Midi din jacks never have that issue.
@neonblack211 Жыл бұрын
The neutron seems really sick but I hate the paint job its ugly as hell IMO
@housebandthexenos2569 Жыл бұрын
Hey. Quite a awhile ago I did a bunch of overlay designs for the Neutron. They are quite artsy and bold but have a wide color palette between and sometimes within them. I never got them printed or anything but the other guy in the thread did and some of them are available. Mine are way more fun though. There's a Gearspace thread with them all. Mine are post #5 and high res so you can click on em and zoom in. I did many of the designs using fractals or 3d modeling. Let me know what you think. I probably should have printed some but kind of the other guys way plainer designs coupled with his working at a printing place discouraged me I guess. Here's the link. gearspace.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-and-electronic-music-production/1222734-behringer-neutron-custom-overlay-showcase.html
@neonblack211 Жыл бұрын
Super cool
@numbersguy8737 Жыл бұрын
Where'd you get your case? Im trying to build a eurorack out of the Neutron, Model D and the up coming Proton
@housebandthexenos2569 Жыл бұрын
This is an exact link to where I got the case. It's not an affiliate link so I don't get any $. Just helping out. I think they're a little pricey for what they are but they charge so cheap for the synths, they must make all their money on these stands! :) www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/EuroRack3TS--behringer-eurorack-stand-3-tier-for-70-80-and-104-hp-cases
@lukeskywalker2656 Жыл бұрын
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@ewanstefani Жыл бұрын
Now you're making me want a 3x Neutron rack... damn it! :)
Nice demo of Behringer Odyssey sounds👍I absolutely adore this synth, that ARP vibe is so cool! Arp is usually my choice over a Moog tonewise👍Feel free to check out some of my funk demos of this lovely synthesizer👍
@jakowrtaric Жыл бұрын
Hey there, great ride. Question; with this process we loose the drives right? Is there a way to return those? Thank you!
@housebandthexenos2569 Жыл бұрын
Great Question! The drive on the main unit, you know the destination unit, will work on all units oscillators together as a sum. That's probably what you want BUT you could instead of take osc mix outs take main outs. Problem there is you get extra in series filters and VCAs on just Neutrons #2 and #3. You could maybe patch around the filters but probably a lot of work and thinking.
@jakowrtaric Жыл бұрын
@@housebandthexenos2569 Hmm, the drive on the main unit is also off here. The main outs, if you mean "output" outs do not do the trick here. Ill play around and add a comment if I solve it. Im quite new at this btw. Thank you good sir :)
@housebandthexenos2569 Жыл бұрын
@@jakowrtaric well if you are using the 2nd units filter in series it depends where you patch it back to in my main unit. I was thinking of just the normalled connection on #1 unit from it's vcf. If you patch that 2nd units vcf into wherever that drive is I'm sure you'll get it. I'll check later today and let you know where I think.
@fishbert17 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got two neutrons currently, and have been wondering what to put in the third space in the rack. Maybe a third neutron…
@PTguitars Жыл бұрын
Wow - that sounds like a big-ass Moog.
@housebandthexenos2569 Жыл бұрын
Well, sort of. The many oscillators and crazy movement stuff but moogs are known for the 24 db ladder filter and Neutrons have a 12 db which let's more through but is less "fat" sounding. I have a few Behringer Model D's too. One day I'll run the 3x Neutron through a D filter.
@basveeren7436 Жыл бұрын
Very helpfull and all things spot on! VCA gain sound thing being the weirdest to learn about... seems not so usefull having that hanging note, you would think it should be overal gain/volume of VCA
@ethosannihilator Жыл бұрын
Damn! You seem to know a ton about this equipment. I got a neutron today it sounds great but I can only get audio from the OSC 1 2 mix in the patchbay and nothing from the 1/4" Jack's on the back of the unit. Any ideas?
@sabamacx Жыл бұрын
There are some basic neutron tutorials on youtube. Almost all of them start from a default configuration which will give you sound. Follow those.
@tommyheron464 Жыл бұрын
Patch vcf1, vcf2 or overdrive Into vca in on the patch bay. That should do it. Patching vcf1 or 2 removes the overdrive from the signal path.
@fruicheboy Жыл бұрын
Excellent! Makes me want to get a Deepmind.
@brianoblivion8218 Жыл бұрын
I'm buying this in a week and I'm so excited watching this
@housebandthexenos2569 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. It's really a great synth. Perhaps the best of the Behringer monos and I have most of them, including the 2600. The 2600 does a little more, sounds a little different, and has 3 oscillators but it's much slower to get around and only has 2 very similar sounding 24 db filter choices. The Odyssey can do most of what the 2600 does and does that without having to patch cables. It also has 3 filter choices. 2x 24 db filter choices and a 12 db filter. Having the 12 db filter as well effectively doubles the sounds you can make. I'll do one of these videos on the 2600 sooner or later but it's harder to be a pro at everything on it than the Odyssey, so I have to put more time into it's idiosyncrasies first.
@brianoblivion8218 Жыл бұрын
@@housebandthexenos2569 someone nearby is selling one used for half price, I could never afford one otherwise. it looks like the sort of synth where you can play and change perameters comfortably at the same time
@housebandthexenos2569 Жыл бұрын
@@brianoblivion8218 it's never comfortable lol. There's no slider caps and the stems are pretty sharp. I have a pic of a nice rectangle indent in my thumb from recording a filter sweep. On Gearspace they were calling that pic "Barp finger" lol. Don't worry though you can buy a set of caps for it that let the light go through. I haven't got them but I might.
@brianoblivion8218 Жыл бұрын
@@housebandthexenos2569 😮 maybe I'll wear gloves
@DisciplinedCommotion Жыл бұрын
Hi, how are you getting on with your Odyssey?
@ryananthony4840 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for the vibraphone...... lmao jk
@housebandthexenos2569 Жыл бұрын
Funny! I had made various of these instrument graphics and I knew this song had nothing that could be interpreted as a vibraphone even tho other songs of mine do! Lol I just thought it was a cool pic.
@ryananthony4840 Жыл бұрын
@@housebandthexenos2569 haha right! Lmao
@ryananthony4840 Жыл бұрын
Sounds great tho!
@housebandthexenos2569 Жыл бұрын
@@ryananthony4840 thank you! Lots of people watch my tutorial videos but not enough listen to my actual songs. I really appreciate it. I wish my kick drum in this one wasn't so damn loud though, and the ride cymbal at the end. I have a new batch coming soon, just gotta get em copyrighted first. Do you make music?
@housebandthexenos2569 Жыл бұрын
@@ryananthony4840 lol and I thought who would think about and notice the no vibraphone....
@strait150 Жыл бұрын
This guy is awesome, please talk more about synthesizers!
@KosmoDeuz2 жыл бұрын
THIS IS RED ALERT ))))
@usvideowatcher2 жыл бұрын
thanks so much for a retired, but interested person willing to get positive experience with that synthesizer. Many good hints that are highly welcomed by this German new-synthi-guy. Thanks so much All the best to you !!!
@noyabuis2 жыл бұрын
umm... sick! I have just the right amount of bonus $$$ monies might have to follow suit.
@maval45372 жыл бұрын
I love old school synths since ever, but never dared to try on my own, because I absolutely don't get how they work. It looks so complicated to me. But nice video!
@jarikensenat128210 ай бұрын
U just have to dive in there and do it. Watching videos helps a lot. Back in the days no videos just have to read a manual and do it.its a blast to play with a synth.
@EdEditz2 жыл бұрын
I think this is one of the best clones Behringer ever made. It sounds awesome, especially in the Bass department. I can see why John Fox called this the first punk synthesizer. It can certainly hold up with the guitars and cut through the mix :)
@rareform67472 жыл бұрын
No Effects ???
@housebandthexenos25692 жыл бұрын
Theres a little reverb to make the sound more palatable but its not from the Odyssey (SSL Flexverb) I think most people want to hear what the synth sounds like without being too obscured by FX. Yes the Odyssey has its own but not only are they not a big selling point of the synth but they are mono. Handy for live shows though where things are usually mono anyway. Here's 3 exclamation points for you!!!
@cjsmallzzz87112 жыл бұрын
Dude…Thank you! 😁
@ZenMountain2 жыл бұрын
"No bueno" and "No problemo" don't exist. Please, English speakers, stop saying that.
@seanbee30912 жыл бұрын
Could I do something similar with my Neutron and Minibrute 2S? I imagine so. I think you get some punishing sounds pairing the 2 together.
@polyphonicclix Жыл бұрын
I use a MiniBrute 2 with a Neutron, linked by MIDI and each as necessary! It gets very interesting!!!
@hughdonders31212 жыл бұрын
That’s a realy crazy sound . Thanks for the explaning . I am going to do the same thing . Thanks .
@synthsproblems34752 жыл бұрын
all the users have background noise on the headphones out ?
@housebandthexenos25692 жыл бұрын
I don't know if they all do, but I can say I noticed after awhile that the sliders seem to be exponential. (at least on my early white led model) That means small changes at the bottom and big changes at the top. The original Odyssey may have been like this, I don't know. It's probably useful for working with the filters, where you want lots of resolution in the middle and bottom and don't need nearly as much at the top of the range. How does this effect headphone amp noise? Put up the oscillators in the mixer to 2/3 and VCA amplifier up about the same and play a few notes. Now raise the VCA slider the rest of the way up. The volume almost doubles! The oscillator sliders in the mixer are the same way. Once you are aware of this, you can do better gain staging and your headphone amp won't be amplifying a signal thats too low for it. It's not as important when going into higher quality line amps instead of the Odyssey's headphone amp. I should have put the gainstaging thing into this video, but I didn't realize it at the time I made this video, 2 days after getting it.
@muppetpaster2 жыл бұрын
1:28 it is full on modular now... Not semi ... They're modules right?!... So modular..
@rdm51902 жыл бұрын
If you roll your finger against the raised edge portion of the pitch pads it helps with the control curve a bit instead of just pressing the center...... Oh and like any other "skill"..... practice
@kevinbirge21302 жыл бұрын
Massive sounds. And will roast about any analog rig you could build on the same money.
@23dows2 жыл бұрын
How do you connect the midi? Its all 3 connected via usb?
@housebandthexenos25692 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm using usb to each neutron, and 3 armed midi tracks. One to each unit. Alternately you could use the midi thrus on the back of the units and use just one track. I don't know for sure if the usb input is echoed to the thru though. I haven't tested that. If your using a daw, id say usb is better. It's just easier and you can find probably find usb cables cheaper than midi ones and you probably have more usb cables just lying around.
@thetruthexperiment2 жыл бұрын
Am I ever going to get to see two notes played at once?
@housebandthexenos25692 жыл бұрын
Frankly I dont remember if I did that in this video. I generally dont really like paraphony so I might not have. Having to play blocky chords because of the 2 notes not having separate articulation is just boring to me at least when Im jamming like this. Where paraphony gets interesting to me is when 1 oscillator is FMing the other so its not trying to be 2 distinct notes. When the Odyssey was new Im sure having the duo osc paraphony was more exciting being a totally rare feature.
@taxmoneyyy Жыл бұрын
@@housebandthexenos2569 You could've either simply played a chord, or elaborate in extenso on the metaphysical reasons that brought you to not want to simply play a chord. Should bring you to question other life choices
@housebandthexenos2569 Жыл бұрын
@@taxmoneyyy Maybe you should question the desire to try to prove your intelligence on a KZread comment. It didn't work btw.
@whahappend8222 Жыл бұрын
@@taxmoneyyythat might be the most pretentious thing I've read in a long time.
@pascalansellful Жыл бұрын
wtf is wrong with people making snipes like this? It's a great video, it really fleshes out the possibilities of the Odyssey in a playful way.
@cnfuzz2 жыл бұрын
An lfo is 3 dollar in component if you make them ,one of the easiest schematics , you can have 10 to modulate the neutron
@cnfuzz2 жыл бұрын
You can perfectly use the digital lfo as a third OSC ,it tracks pitch very well
@housebandthexenos25692 жыл бұрын
I like to use whole digital synths through analog ones for their oscillators. I have a video about exactly that. kzread.info/dash/bejne/p5itqrGtZrTcgsY.html
@chrisbran67392 жыл бұрын
Mega powerful !
@whitesonar2 жыл бұрын
thanks, another rabbit hole I didn't know i needed to go down :D
@Rompler_Rocco2 жыл бұрын
So glad you didn't re-skin them! This looks as awesome as it-- IS. And how cool having the triple rats nest neatly off to one side 👍👍👍
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you may like Behringer because its cheap but Behringer does not target the professional intrumentalist, their more like sales people, is like the Aldi Of musical intruments, they will break down sooner or later, mine has on 3 occasions. You will also find that the logic chips will start failing and your illumination LEDS on the sliders will start to fail, that would be the first sign. The swithces are somewhat flimsy and the PCB is a very poor flexing chinese design, doing repairs I noticed a lot of dried soldered joints and sloppy work, markings of flux residue everywhere, dark spots, not very neat. This syth is also not an ideal live performing intrument on stage because it is very fiddley and cant see all buttons and knobs at a glance, the sliders make it more difficult to perform live, but as a studio or a hobby peice it is alright to have, becasue it is cheap, sound close to the Arp and prices have come down further on the them... Now imagine Roland or Yamaha Doing same thing, it would be pointless and shame to their name....and all musical intrumental palyers in the world would fail on stage...
Been wanting to get a K2 to pair with my Neutron for quite some time now. But this makes me consider a second Neutron instead... Damnit, too many options 😀 Great video! Ps. Lfo is prewired to Mult, no need to patch that connection. 🙂
Hi! So cool! I have two of em. Great swiss army knife of a machine. The patching power is just insane.
I needed this. Thank you!
The Deepmind 12 I have has low output. Haven't tried the balanced outs though so wondering if it's similar issue.
Thank you for this tutorial. My first week with Odyssey... To be honest; I wanted to return it after 2 days... and I'm not new to synths. Bought it on Friday and swore I'll took it back first thing on Monday... But Sunday jam... magic started to happen. Still far away from knowing what I'm doing... sometimes it will hold a tone indefinitely without even holding a key... and sometimes sound just cuts off when feeding it with sequencer... it is not broken probably... it's lack of my understanding analogue synthesis I guess. Wish there is someone who can explain me the signal path and what influences what... and in what order. Today I left it running for about an hour on the same sequence and sound was constantly evolving... making those 16 notes sound like a pro player.
Yes there is someone, me! I teach this kind of stuff for a living. I can give you a complete run through of everything, even the weird stuff like the sample and hold mixer which is also for stuff that's funny enough, not sample and hold. I can take you one on one thru the complete basics to the most advanced. I generally charge about $50 pr hr, and we can easily do this on zoom. Thanks for recognizing this no talking video IS a tutorial. I introduce and explore concepts in order. I've been teaching/coaching studio engineers and synthesists about 25 years. There is just one thing on the Odyssey that I don't work with so I don't know it is the internal sequencer. I never find internal sequencers that are just notes very interesting. I love hardware and have tons of it but for sequencing, I'm a daw guy. The computer just does so much more. This is just my opinion though and I "get" the other side of things that whole dawless craze but I'm just not into it. Internal sequencer can be good for holding a loop during live performance. Also I don't know if you noticed but I have this Behringer Odyssey emergency guide as well. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hoyI2sSiZMyxc9Y.htmlsi=jt9QZaQ60JUm0sj-
@@housebandthexenos2569 Thank you for the teaching offer. I will seriously consider it but first I need to spend some more alone time with it and maybe it's already time to get that Welsh's synth cookbook. I'm not using internal sequencer but Yamaha Tenori-on, because I did not take time to check the manual yet. Now I see how little I know about synthesis. One question if I may... Odyssey's PSU is plugged in a splitter with 10 plugs and running. Then I plugged phone charger in that splitter and sound drastically changed... is this normal? Any suggestions? Best regards.
@@jitterbuba how much does it's sound change and what does it become? I'm not an electrical expert by any means but I can tell you having multiple items plugged into one wall outlet is exactly the way to go. Doing it any other way will create a ground loop in your audio as ground now will travel back through your gear to get to the other outlet. Notice I said outlet and not socket. Multiple sockets on the same outlet is fine. Plugging tons of stuff ganged with surge protectors seems the most par for the course way and I've been doing it for decades. You gotta remember how much a wall outlet or cord or surge protector can take is all about the amps. Can the tiny drain of a phone charger change the sound of the synth? hmm interesting. Many times with chasing electrical ghosts, like hum caused from a dimmer elsewhere in the house or a fridge without knowing about it, the only way to go is process of elimination or trying random stuff till eventually you find that if you just plug the fishtank in somewhere else... Change in tone can be crazy, and even changes day to day and hour to hour. I print mixes from analog mixers. Print one, then print again 2 hours later without touching anything, sounds diff. Should I buy better Furmans? Maybe lol but not that Neve 8816 summing mixer. Much Analog stuff is just raw and wild in its variation even from note to note for reasons I certainly can't explain sometimes lol. That's why we love it.
I recently bought 3 more neutrons, arrived this past week, so now have 4. This is the kind of thing I want to play with! Absolutely amazing sound you have there too!
Great tutorial friend
Thank you for recognizing what this video is! I start at tuning the simplest sound and introduce more sophisticated concepts slowly till I'm exploring the edges of what the Odyssey can do, with now the understanding by the viewer of how (I hope) and not by saying a single word. I've been contemplating making a series of videos like this. Do you think if I did some plugin synths people would like it?
sounds like a 2600
U can do alot of the same sounds but a big difference with the 2600 is that the Neutron has a 12db 2 pole filter instead of the 24db 4 pole of the 2600 and Moog Modular as well. Having a 2 pole let's more of the stuff above the cutoff point thru, and that let's you hear more of the massive 6 osc stack's midrange detail to be heard. Also more fm upper harmonics etc. I have run this 3x neutron stack thru a Behringer Model D filter and envelope and then it is, well, more Moogy.
ARP was always rather quirky, but to me that's part of the appeal. The 2600 flummoxed a lot of people, and the 2500 is a pure strumpet but boy do they sound good! And, yeah, this video is still goin' strong! Thanks!
I have a B 2600 and still haven't tried the lag processors. Lol
@@housebandthexenos2569 i know the feeling. Ive got a 2600, Odyssey, Neutron, Wasp delux, RD6, RD9, TD3, Deepmind 12, digitakt, evolver, mopho, dark energy, and a bunch of stuff all in boxes! I currently have no room due to Kids moving out and filling the house with "stuff"! Its been like 18 months and theres no end in sight! AAAAARRRRGGHH!!!🤬 I can't really blame them. I need to get my finger out😔
This sounds amazing! I have two neutrons…guess who’s getting another now! Thanks for the great video 😊
This is actually really helpful
how do you control them? I see no midi connection being used, are you controlling this with CV or with the rear USB connection?
I'm using a 3x USB cables and 3x midi tracks, one to each unit. You could just use a midi cable to one unit though and daisy chain midi thru to the rest.l and just use one daw track. I believe the midi out can have a thru function set in the Synth Tribe app if I remember correctly
@@housebandthexenos2569 thank you do you use a USB hub of some kind as a lot of USB devices need to be connected directly to some (powered) connection or hub with it's own power supply.
@@koosfockens1707 yes, a hub is fine but before the hub not a bad idea to put a USB electrical isolator. This prevents computer noise from going thru the USB and mix with audio of unit. Not essential, but some computers (and USB ports) are noisier than others. Midi din jacks never have that issue.
The neutron seems really sick but I hate the paint job its ugly as hell IMO
Hey. Quite a awhile ago I did a bunch of overlay designs for the Neutron. They are quite artsy and bold but have a wide color palette between and sometimes within them. I never got them printed or anything but the other guy in the thread did and some of them are available. Mine are way more fun though. There's a Gearspace thread with them all. Mine are post #5 and high res so you can click on em and zoom in. I did many of the designs using fractals or 3d modeling. Let me know what you think. I probably should have printed some but kind of the other guys way plainer designs coupled with his working at a printing place discouraged me I guess. Here's the link. gearspace.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-and-electronic-music-production/1222734-behringer-neutron-custom-overlay-showcase.html
Super cool
Where'd you get your case? Im trying to build a eurorack out of the Neutron, Model D and the up coming Proton
This is an exact link to where I got the case. It's not an affiliate link so I don't get any $. Just helping out. I think they're a little pricey for what they are but they charge so cheap for the synths, they must make all their money on these stands! :) www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/EuroRack3TS--behringer-eurorack-stand-3-tier-for-70-80-and-104-hp-cases
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Now you're making me want a 3x Neutron rack... damn it! :)
kzread.info/dash/bejne/naqestCqaKzJdbA.html Nice !
Nice demo of Behringer Odyssey sounds👍I absolutely adore this synth, that ARP vibe is so cool! Arp is usually my choice over a Moog tonewise👍Feel free to check out some of my funk demos of this lovely synthesizer👍
Hey there, great ride. Question; with this process we loose the drives right? Is there a way to return those? Thank you!
Great Question! The drive on the main unit, you know the destination unit, will work on all units oscillators together as a sum. That's probably what you want BUT you could instead of take osc mix outs take main outs. Problem there is you get extra in series filters and VCAs on just Neutrons #2 and #3. You could maybe patch around the filters but probably a lot of work and thinking.
@@housebandthexenos2569 Hmm, the drive on the main unit is also off here. The main outs, if you mean "output" outs do not do the trick here. Ill play around and add a comment if I solve it. Im quite new at this btw. Thank you good sir :)
@@jakowrtaric well if you are using the 2nd units filter in series it depends where you patch it back to in my main unit. I was thinking of just the normalled connection on #1 unit from it's vcf. If you patch that 2nd units vcf into wherever that drive is I'm sure you'll get it. I'll check later today and let you know where I think.
I’ve got two neutrons currently, and have been wondering what to put in the third space in the rack. Maybe a third neutron…
Wow - that sounds like a big-ass Moog.
Well, sort of. The many oscillators and crazy movement stuff but moogs are known for the 24 db ladder filter and Neutrons have a 12 db which let's more through but is less "fat" sounding. I have a few Behringer Model D's too. One day I'll run the 3x Neutron through a D filter.
Very helpfull and all things spot on! VCA gain sound thing being the weirdest to learn about... seems not so usefull having that hanging note, you would think it should be overal gain/volume of VCA
Damn! You seem to know a ton about this equipment. I got a neutron today it sounds great but I can only get audio from the OSC 1 2 mix in the patchbay and nothing from the 1/4" Jack's on the back of the unit. Any ideas?
There are some basic neutron tutorials on youtube. Almost all of them start from a default configuration which will give you sound. Follow those.
Patch vcf1, vcf2 or overdrive Into vca in on the patch bay. That should do it. Patching vcf1 or 2 removes the overdrive from the signal path.
Excellent! Makes me want to get a Deepmind.
I'm buying this in a week and I'm so excited watching this
Thanks. It's really a great synth. Perhaps the best of the Behringer monos and I have most of them, including the 2600. The 2600 does a little more, sounds a little different, and has 3 oscillators but it's much slower to get around and only has 2 very similar sounding 24 db filter choices. The Odyssey can do most of what the 2600 does and does that without having to patch cables. It also has 3 filter choices. 2x 24 db filter choices and a 12 db filter. Having the 12 db filter as well effectively doubles the sounds you can make. I'll do one of these videos on the 2600 sooner or later but it's harder to be a pro at everything on it than the Odyssey, so I have to put more time into it's idiosyncrasies first.
@@housebandthexenos2569 someone nearby is selling one used for half price, I could never afford one otherwise. it looks like the sort of synth where you can play and change perameters comfortably at the same time
@@brianoblivion8218 it's never comfortable lol. There's no slider caps and the stems are pretty sharp. I have a pic of a nice rectangle indent in my thumb from recording a filter sweep. On Gearspace they were calling that pic "Barp finger" lol. Don't worry though you can buy a set of caps for it that let the light go through. I haven't got them but I might.
@@housebandthexenos2569 😮 maybe I'll wear gloves
Hi, how are you getting on with your Odyssey?
I was waiting for the vibraphone...... lmao jk
Funny! I had made various of these instrument graphics and I knew this song had nothing that could be interpreted as a vibraphone even tho other songs of mine do! Lol I just thought it was a cool pic.
@@housebandthexenos2569 haha right! Lmao
Sounds great tho!
@@ryananthony4840 thank you! Lots of people watch my tutorial videos but not enough listen to my actual songs. I really appreciate it. I wish my kick drum in this one wasn't so damn loud though, and the ride cymbal at the end. I have a new batch coming soon, just gotta get em copyrighted first. Do you make music?
@@ryananthony4840 lol and I thought who would think about and notice the no vibraphone....
This guy is awesome, please talk more about synthesizers!
THIS IS RED ALERT ))))
thanks so much for a retired, but interested person willing to get positive experience with that synthesizer. Many good hints that are highly welcomed by this German new-synthi-guy. Thanks so much All the best to you !!!
umm... sick! I have just the right amount of bonus $$$ monies might have to follow suit.
I love old school synths since ever, but never dared to try on my own, because I absolutely don't get how they work. It looks so complicated to me. But nice video!
U just have to dive in there and do it. Watching videos helps a lot. Back in the days no videos just have to read a manual and do it.its a blast to play with a synth.
I think this is one of the best clones Behringer ever made. It sounds awesome, especially in the Bass department. I can see why John Fox called this the first punk synthesizer. It can certainly hold up with the guitars and cut through the mix :)
No Effects ???
Theres a little reverb to make the sound more palatable but its not from the Odyssey (SSL Flexverb) I think most people want to hear what the synth sounds like without being too obscured by FX. Yes the Odyssey has its own but not only are they not a big selling point of the synth but they are mono. Handy for live shows though where things are usually mono anyway. Here's 3 exclamation points for you!!!
Dude…Thank you! 😁
"No bueno" and "No problemo" don't exist. Please, English speakers, stop saying that.
Could I do something similar with my Neutron and Minibrute 2S? I imagine so. I think you get some punishing sounds pairing the 2 together.
I use a MiniBrute 2 with a Neutron, linked by MIDI and each as necessary! It gets very interesting!!!
That’s a realy crazy sound . Thanks for the explaning . I am going to do the same thing . Thanks .
all the users have background noise on the headphones out ?
I don't know if they all do, but I can say I noticed after awhile that the sliders seem to be exponential. (at least on my early white led model) That means small changes at the bottom and big changes at the top. The original Odyssey may have been like this, I don't know. It's probably useful for working with the filters, where you want lots of resolution in the middle and bottom and don't need nearly as much at the top of the range. How does this effect headphone amp noise? Put up the oscillators in the mixer to 2/3 and VCA amplifier up about the same and play a few notes. Now raise the VCA slider the rest of the way up. The volume almost doubles! The oscillator sliders in the mixer are the same way. Once you are aware of this, you can do better gain staging and your headphone amp won't be amplifying a signal thats too low for it. It's not as important when going into higher quality line amps instead of the Odyssey's headphone amp. I should have put the gainstaging thing into this video, but I didn't realize it at the time I made this video, 2 days after getting it.
1:28 it is full on modular now... Not semi ... They're modules right?!... So modular..
If you roll your finger against the raised edge portion of the pitch pads it helps with the control curve a bit instead of just pressing the center...... Oh and like any other "skill"..... practice
Massive sounds. And will roast about any analog rig you could build on the same money.
How do you connect the midi? Its all 3 connected via usb?
Yeah I'm using usb to each neutron, and 3 armed midi tracks. One to each unit. Alternately you could use the midi thrus on the back of the units and use just one track. I don't know for sure if the usb input is echoed to the thru though. I haven't tested that. If your using a daw, id say usb is better. It's just easier and you can find probably find usb cables cheaper than midi ones and you probably have more usb cables just lying around.
Am I ever going to get to see two notes played at once?
Frankly I dont remember if I did that in this video. I generally dont really like paraphony so I might not have. Having to play blocky chords because of the 2 notes not having separate articulation is just boring to me at least when Im jamming like this. Where paraphony gets interesting to me is when 1 oscillator is FMing the other so its not trying to be 2 distinct notes. When the Odyssey was new Im sure having the duo osc paraphony was more exciting being a totally rare feature.
@@housebandthexenos2569 You could've either simply played a chord, or elaborate in extenso on the metaphysical reasons that brought you to not want to simply play a chord. Should bring you to question other life choices
@@taxmoneyyy Maybe you should question the desire to try to prove your intelligence on a KZread comment. It didn't work btw.
@@taxmoneyyythat might be the most pretentious thing I've read in a long time.
wtf is wrong with people making snipes like this? It's a great video, it really fleshes out the possibilities of the Odyssey in a playful way.
An lfo is 3 dollar in component if you make them ,one of the easiest schematics , you can have 10 to modulate the neutron
You can perfectly use the digital lfo as a third OSC ,it tracks pitch very well
I like to use whole digital synths through analog ones for their oscillators. I have a video about exactly that. kzread.info/dash/bejne/p5itqrGtZrTcgsY.html
Mega powerful !
thanks, another rabbit hole I didn't know i needed to go down :D
So glad you didn't re-skin them! This looks as awesome as it-- IS. And how cool having the triple rats nest neatly off to one side 👍👍👍