You need more treasures to get your combo pieces and big dragons out on the battlefield sooner and ways to protect your creatures from wipes or removal
@petrbarnosak163710 ай бұрын
And you won with this deck ? I got experience with Ur-Dragon in FFA 4ppl, with similliar build and no chance to won, deck is too slow and my dragons were always target with some removal or stealing creatuers etc. you play 5 colours deck you need more removal, counter spells, tutors, protecting your dragons, even more draw card mechanic, to make your win chance higher. No offense, there are lot of great and powerfull dragons in your deck, but opponents will smash you fast, becouse they know, if they let you live you will be high threat in late game.
@alfredolainez638310 ай бұрын
I get this alot actually! I have been undefeated twice at my locals (havent played in a whiiile) and has done well in big events, i dont really have issues with lands to be honest, by turn 5 it already becomes a 3 v 1 because i can already deal massive damage, i think the trick is power shuffling after a long game, i have noticed it helps a lot with nice starting hands, or maybe i am just lucky?
@DominicCB-kn8ez9 ай бұрын
@@alfredolainez6383Power level must be low where you play because this deck is extra slow and will get crushed before it can do anything. One board wipe after you play 2 mana dorks and you're stuck on playing one dragon a turn that you have no mana or even spells to protect
@rawritstayl0r86610 ай бұрын
what sleeves are you using with the gold
@stola72711 ай бұрын
“I cannot afford all shock lands” said the guy with the ur-dragon deck with full bling bling secret lair full Art lands in his hand 👌🏼
@phoenixfeather463 Жыл бұрын
A good replacement for the realmwalker is korlessa, scale singer. It does the same while being a two mana 1/4 dragon.
@DominicCB-kn8ez9 ай бұрын
Realmwalker is also a 2-mana being a shapeshifter and reduced by the UR
@alexescobedo4516 Жыл бұрын
Going to try a few of these cards in my varient of the deck thank you and great deck build!
I assume that it is because many of your creatures are large, meaning that blocking will often already be hard enough for opponents for it to be worth it.
@helderjones4962 Жыл бұрын
Is that a custom art on the ur dragon? or is it a sleeve? link to it?
@ivanmateos9352 Жыл бұрын
u have a very nice deck! i love ur-dragon sooo... I'm going to review my manabase to finish it at 100%. I'm going to take it full aggressive
@neoalphon Жыл бұрын
Man i Love the sleeves on the ur dragon card, do u know where to find?😊
@holymarshmellow202 Жыл бұрын
Rivaz and Scion of Ur, make sure it isn't a legendary. Legend rule applies to copies.
@CompleatedMagic Жыл бұрын
City of Ass sounds cool
@wikay2 Жыл бұрын
Wolrdly tutor?
@bjj21 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a fun deck! What cards do you need most? I'll send you one or two if you want. Do my good dead for month.
@oscar_likes_stuff Жыл бұрын
How about adding Dragon Arch as an artifact?
@alfredolainez6383 Жыл бұрын
i tried it, but replaced it for prismatic bridge
@maxopayne2000 Жыл бұрын
If you don’t like Realmwalker you could try Korlessa, Scale Singer
@alfredolainez6383 Жыл бұрын
I actually tried it before, for some reason it never really worked for me
@kazfantanarosa4942 Жыл бұрын
Cool deck but there's no card draw in this, no way to remove your opponent's artifacts or enchantments, and not enough lands (I run 37 in my Ur-Dragon)
@6laccdemarco Жыл бұрын
I’m gonna have to post my deck list and combos. I feel like a lot of decks don’t utilize Ur dragon’s ability. My Ur wins through putting permanents on the field that allow me to further reduce dragons and eventually all my spells for free. I also use hellfire charger savage vent maw Klauth or old gnaw bone for infinite combat. I have a ton of fun with this deck. And really love the 5 color theme.playing tiamat with morphon on the field is a 1 mana 5 creature tutor. Add Ramos to that and your friends groan in glee.
@alfredolainez6383 Жыл бұрын
sounds like you have a lot of fun with the deck like me! haha it truly is a fun commander
@6laccdemarco Жыл бұрын
I ran it last week for the first time in a while lost but still had a lot of fun. He’s a really fun commander opening hand with leyline of anticipation and was able to get ur on the field and put Omniscience on the field.
@DrakanShadow Жыл бұрын
Klauth's mana can't be used for infinite combat. Old Gnawbone also creates treaures after the attack, so you need to have available mana to pay for Hellkite Chargers ability before you obtain the first set of treasure tokens.
@arcenside1772 Жыл бұрын
Tiamat is the better commander with the UR 1 of the 99
@alfredolainez6383 Жыл бұрын
I will try that out!
@howardberry5887 Жыл бұрын
Sweet Ur-Dragon deck! Another combo that you might consider adding: Scion of the Ur-Dragon, Skithiryx, and Moltensteel Dragon. Attack with the Scion, and if no blockers are present, use it's ability twice, with the first activation to search for moltensteel dragon. Now that Scion is moltensteel dragon, use its ability in response to the second Scion activation to pump your power to 10, then allow the second Scion activation to proceed. With that activation search for Skithiryx. Scion will now be a 10 powered infect sniper.
@alfredolainez6383 Жыл бұрын
holy! I actually didn't know scion could be used that way!
@howardberry5887 Жыл бұрын
@@alfredolainez6383 It's great for those who are unaware of it or if you know no one will respond 😂
@alfredolainez6383 Жыл бұрын
@@howardberry5887 my friends are about to get some surprises haha thank you!
@jeromehiggins3678 Жыл бұрын
😓 promo sm
@willmafergan7987 Жыл бұрын
Why do you play rampant growth and not natures lore?
@nicalnate Жыл бұрын
Cause no triomes
@loganharner1166 Жыл бұрын
Hey friend! Great video, i got a lot of really good ideas for my Ur-Dragon deck. One thought; Klauth and Hellkite Charger gives infinite attack phases and technically infinite mana if the games not over from infinite combat turns.
@hussainrafaal3905 Жыл бұрын
Klauth actually does not as the card states that you can only use the mana to cast spells.
@Fastman4000 Жыл бұрын
Personally I'd probably play this with a few more lands to get more consistency in the starting hands. This deck has a pretty high average cmc so it's a lot better to have consistent land drops than to use mana on ramp spells each turn. Also I'd recommend switching Surrak Dragonclaw to something like Rhythm of the wild. It gives the same uncounterable effect and haste instead of the trample, which is a lot more useful in an agressive dragon deck, plus it's lower cmc.
@Iceman762004 Жыл бұрын
Nice job. Looks like a solid deck. 👌 I like the combo section of the video the best. I hadn't thought of that last combo. I'm probably gonna steal that idea for mine.
@alfredolainez6383 Жыл бұрын
thank you! it's a fun combo lol
@chrism.8177 Жыл бұрын
love the playmat, do you have a link to it?
@alfredolainez6383 Жыл бұрын
I am not sure if you can buy it, I got it through an event here in canada, this is the store that hosts those events www.facetofacegames.com/ hope this helps!
@Fighting_irish493 Жыл бұрын
34 lands that’s not nearly enough for dragons which have a high mana value to cast a lot of dragons are like anywhere from 6-8 mana you need like at lest 38-40 lands bare minimum
@serse8455 Жыл бұрын
dude that's way more complicated, you got to consider the number of artifacts and ramp spells. even if you fill the deck with lands you can still only cast 1 on each turn, so increasing the number of lands will get you more consistent land drops, not more mana. imo 37 is ok in most cases (you ger 3 lands in 8 cards on averege), but I don't play green.
@Fighting_irish493 Жыл бұрын
@@serse8455 yes you can have ramp with artifacts but if you don’t have lands then you can’t cast them and with dragons ramp like sol ring is good but not really you also need coloured mana a lot of times so you need fixing all I’m saying if your running 34 lands I think that it’s low I think you need at lest 38 lands may more plus lands don’t get blown up as much compared to artifacts you could have a bunch of artifacts out and one candle blast or dismantling wave will set you back dramatically land based ramp is better every little will you see a Armageddon and other mass land destruction
@ironfreddy3192 Жыл бұрын
34 lands is enough. He needs fetchlands and triomes as land upgrade. Urza's Saga and Ancient Tomb are more expensive, but definitely worth it. He also needs better mana rocks, with Mana Vault being his best "budget" option. He included ramp spells so I don't see land quantity being a problem for him.
@vvizard_vveed3604 Жыл бұрын
Ur dragon makes them cheaper and he uses land ramp. You'd be surprised, I've won past turn 6 after only drawing and playing 3 land
@Fighting_irish493 Жыл бұрын
@@vvizard_vveed3604 you must not be running any of the ancient dragons some of them are 7 or 8 mana 34 lands is too low you will have games you get mana screwed
@reillysmith2721 Жыл бұрын
not bad for a budget ur dragon deck. But to make a 5 color deck viable u need to invest in a better land base. also get gold/copper dragon, better targets for scion.
@gabrielharvey956 Жыл бұрын
you need all fetchland and all triome with green in it , this make 5 color deck viable , i have played this deck for years and im sure you are mana screwed half the time
@BootlegDubProd Жыл бұрын
Kraken burgers hot n ready
@AllureCosplay Жыл бұрын
LOOK AT THESE SWEET SWEET LANDS IT BE A SHAME IF THEY WENT MISSING
@alfredolainez6383 Жыл бұрын
I would legit cry haha
@AllureCosplay Жыл бұрын
That is one SEXY ASS UR DRAGON DECK
@gingrsnap1951 Жыл бұрын
Where’d you get that sleeve for the ur dragon?
@quantumperception Жыл бұрын
I noticed in the comments that you said about a month ago that you will be posting an updated video; any word on when we should expect it? Also, even setting aside good new cards that have come out since, the deck seems sub-optimal even for back then- especially the mana base. May I assume cost is a limiting factor, which is why you chose lesser lands? If not, and there is some other reason, I would love to hear it and try to understand. Obviously, most don't have the cash to buy all the old-school true dual lands, but there are numerous other options, which all seem superior to ones you chose to include, and which seem somewhat affordable compared to true duals (more like 5-10 dollars, as opposed to hundreds of dollars). Again, maybe I missed that you were trying to keep it within a certain budget, and chose to prioritize other cards, which is understandable, but if not, you chose suboptimal cards in numerous instances, (again, especially mana base) which I don't understand.
@Badassest Жыл бұрын
Have you updated to pathways or the capenna lifegain land fetch's or triomes? As far as aggression have you added miirym, maybe a geode golem and the new subdragons from baldurs gate along with the dragonkind orbs? I would add a dragon arch since you have the ramp capability. Or monster manual. Sneak attack is brutal(you have a nice version) dont forget the world tree!
@alfredolainez6383 Жыл бұрын
Funny you mentioned those cards! I am using some of those suggestions in my new build, usually I am able to win by turn 5, here is the link of you would to take a look! kzread.info/dash/bejne/aIWYo5elaLHFfsY.html
@xaxscratchxax926 Жыл бұрын
Hey great idea using that commander to cheat out big angels and get access to 5 colors. I was trying to build an angel deck of my own in 5 colors and I think this sold it for me. Thanks for sharing.
@alfredolainez6383 Жыл бұрын
Glad this helped!
@AllureCosplay Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interview 🙏 it was a lot of fun 😀 my deck is already changed again since filming this
@alfredolainez6383 Жыл бұрын
Time to have even more fun and make more!
@Lang1yTV2 жыл бұрын
Does eminence from Ur-Dragon reduce the cost of Hellkites activated ability? NVM. Just didn't hear the explanation clearly. lol
@alfredolainez6383 Жыл бұрын
i wish it did
@tonivaltee62582 жыл бұрын
where did you get that sleeve with frames on ur-dragon?
@blaineallen52972 жыл бұрын
its arcane armor
@blaineallen52972 жыл бұрын
or just a sleeve
@alfredolainez6383 Жыл бұрын
I got them at my local store, sadly I don't remember the brand
@leonidasbrockweldestevam40712 жыл бұрын
Please post your decklist somewhere so we can give a look.
@alfredolainez6383 Жыл бұрын
I will upload a new video soon, with a lot of changes
@HookedwithHundo2 жыл бұрын
Could you post a list
@alfredolainez6383 Жыл бұрын
will post a new video with a new list, I made a lot of changes
@HectorReneGuitz2 жыл бұрын
have a question, instead of Savage ventmaw, you can use Klauth, right??? is the same effect or it must be Savage Ventmaw for the combo with Hellkite Charger??
@lordreign91632 жыл бұрын
Klauth is actually better because it'll actually give you 7 mana
@HectorReneGuitz2 жыл бұрын
@@lordreign9163 thankyou bro!!
@greghamilton50342 жыл бұрын
I think the mana from klauth can only be spent on casting spells.
@HectorReneGuitz2 жыл бұрын
@@greghamilton5034 you’re Right… man. So no Klauth-Charger combo. Just Savage ventmaw. :c
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You need more treasures to get your combo pieces and big dragons out on the battlefield sooner and ways to protect your creatures from wipes or removal
And you won with this deck ? I got experience with Ur-Dragon in FFA 4ppl, with similliar build and no chance to won, deck is too slow and my dragons were always target with some removal or stealing creatuers etc. you play 5 colours deck you need more removal, counter spells, tutors, protecting your dragons, even more draw card mechanic, to make your win chance higher. No offense, there are lot of great and powerfull dragons in your deck, but opponents will smash you fast, becouse they know, if they let you live you will be high threat in late game.
I get this alot actually! I have been undefeated twice at my locals (havent played in a whiiile) and has done well in big events, i dont really have issues with lands to be honest, by turn 5 it already becomes a 3 v 1 because i can already deal massive damage, i think the trick is power shuffling after a long game, i have noticed it helps a lot with nice starting hands, or maybe i am just lucky?
@@alfredolainez6383Power level must be low where you play because this deck is extra slow and will get crushed before it can do anything. One board wipe after you play 2 mana dorks and you're stuck on playing one dragon a turn that you have no mana or even spells to protect
what sleeves are you using with the gold
“I cannot afford all shock lands” said the guy with the ur-dragon deck with full bling bling secret lair full Art lands in his hand 👌🏼
A good replacement for the realmwalker is korlessa, scale singer. It does the same while being a two mana 1/4 dragon.
Realmwalker is also a 2-mana being a shapeshifter and reduced by the UR
Going to try a few of these cards in my varient of the deck thank you and great deck build!
Alongside Draconic Tempest, I'm surprised more Ur-Dragon decks don't must-include Bower Passage
I assume that it is because many of your creatures are large, meaning that blocking will often already be hard enough for opponents for it to be worth it.
Is that a custom art on the ur dragon? or is it a sleeve? link to it?
u have a very nice deck! i love ur-dragon sooo... I'm going to review my manabase to finish it at 100%. I'm going to take it full aggressive
Man i Love the sleeves on the ur dragon card, do u know where to find?😊
Rivaz and Scion of Ur, make sure it isn't a legendary. Legend rule applies to copies.
City of Ass sounds cool
Wolrdly tutor?
Looks like a fun deck! What cards do you need most? I'll send you one or two if you want. Do my good dead for month.
How about adding Dragon Arch as an artifact?
i tried it, but replaced it for prismatic bridge
If you don’t like Realmwalker you could try Korlessa, Scale Singer
I actually tried it before, for some reason it never really worked for me
Cool deck but there's no card draw in this, no way to remove your opponent's artifacts or enchantments, and not enough lands (I run 37 in my Ur-Dragon)
I’m gonna have to post my deck list and combos. I feel like a lot of decks don’t utilize Ur dragon’s ability. My Ur wins through putting permanents on the field that allow me to further reduce dragons and eventually all my spells for free. I also use hellfire charger savage vent maw Klauth or old gnaw bone for infinite combat. I have a ton of fun with this deck. And really love the 5 color theme.playing tiamat with morphon on the field is a 1 mana 5 creature tutor. Add Ramos to that and your friends groan in glee.
sounds like you have a lot of fun with the deck like me! haha it truly is a fun commander
I ran it last week for the first time in a while lost but still had a lot of fun. He’s a really fun commander opening hand with leyline of anticipation and was able to get ur on the field and put Omniscience on the field.
Klauth's mana can't be used for infinite combat. Old Gnawbone also creates treaures after the attack, so you need to have available mana to pay for Hellkite Chargers ability before you obtain the first set of treasure tokens.
Tiamat is the better commander with the UR 1 of the 99
I will try that out!
Sweet Ur-Dragon deck! Another combo that you might consider adding: Scion of the Ur-Dragon, Skithiryx, and Moltensteel Dragon. Attack with the Scion, and if no blockers are present, use it's ability twice, with the first activation to search for moltensteel dragon. Now that Scion is moltensteel dragon, use its ability in response to the second Scion activation to pump your power to 10, then allow the second Scion activation to proceed. With that activation search for Skithiryx. Scion will now be a 10 powered infect sniper.
holy! I actually didn't know scion could be used that way!
@@alfredolainez6383 It's great for those who are unaware of it or if you know no one will respond 😂
@@howardberry5887 my friends are about to get some surprises haha thank you!
😓 promo sm
Why do you play rampant growth and not natures lore?
Cause no triomes
Hey friend! Great video, i got a lot of really good ideas for my Ur-Dragon deck. One thought; Klauth and Hellkite Charger gives infinite attack phases and technically infinite mana if the games not over from infinite combat turns.
Klauth actually does not as the card states that you can only use the mana to cast spells.
Personally I'd probably play this with a few more lands to get more consistency in the starting hands. This deck has a pretty high average cmc so it's a lot better to have consistent land drops than to use mana on ramp spells each turn. Also I'd recommend switching Surrak Dragonclaw to something like Rhythm of the wild. It gives the same uncounterable effect and haste instead of the trample, which is a lot more useful in an agressive dragon deck, plus it's lower cmc.
Nice job. Looks like a solid deck. 👌 I like the combo section of the video the best. I hadn't thought of that last combo. I'm probably gonna steal that idea for mine.
thank you! it's a fun combo lol
love the playmat, do you have a link to it?
I am not sure if you can buy it, I got it through an event here in canada, this is the store that hosts those events www.facetofacegames.com/ hope this helps!
34 lands that’s not nearly enough for dragons which have a high mana value to cast a lot of dragons are like anywhere from 6-8 mana you need like at lest 38-40 lands bare minimum
dude that's way more complicated, you got to consider the number of artifacts and ramp spells. even if you fill the deck with lands you can still only cast 1 on each turn, so increasing the number of lands will get you more consistent land drops, not more mana. imo 37 is ok in most cases (you ger 3 lands in 8 cards on averege), but I don't play green.
@@serse8455 yes you can have ramp with artifacts but if you don’t have lands then you can’t cast them and with dragons ramp like sol ring is good but not really you also need coloured mana a lot of times so you need fixing all I’m saying if your running 34 lands I think that it’s low I think you need at lest 38 lands may more plus lands don’t get blown up as much compared to artifacts you could have a bunch of artifacts out and one candle blast or dismantling wave will set you back dramatically land based ramp is better every little will you see a Armageddon and other mass land destruction
34 lands is enough. He needs fetchlands and triomes as land upgrade. Urza's Saga and Ancient Tomb are more expensive, but definitely worth it. He also needs better mana rocks, with Mana Vault being his best "budget" option. He included ramp spells so I don't see land quantity being a problem for him.
Ur dragon makes them cheaper and he uses land ramp. You'd be surprised, I've won past turn 6 after only drawing and playing 3 land
@@vvizard_vveed3604 you must not be running any of the ancient dragons some of them are 7 or 8 mana 34 lands is too low you will have games you get mana screwed
not bad for a budget ur dragon deck. But to make a 5 color deck viable u need to invest in a better land base. also get gold/copper dragon, better targets for scion.
you need all fetchland and all triome with green in it , this make 5 color deck viable , i have played this deck for years and im sure you are mana screwed half the time
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LOOK AT THESE SWEET SWEET LANDS IT BE A SHAME IF THEY WENT MISSING
I would legit cry haha
That is one SEXY ASS UR DRAGON DECK
Where’d you get that sleeve for the ur dragon?
I noticed in the comments that you said about a month ago that you will be posting an updated video; any word on when we should expect it? Also, even setting aside good new cards that have come out since, the deck seems sub-optimal even for back then- especially the mana base. May I assume cost is a limiting factor, which is why you chose lesser lands? If not, and there is some other reason, I would love to hear it and try to understand. Obviously, most don't have the cash to buy all the old-school true dual lands, but there are numerous other options, which all seem superior to ones you chose to include, and which seem somewhat affordable compared to true duals (more like 5-10 dollars, as opposed to hundreds of dollars). Again, maybe I missed that you were trying to keep it within a certain budget, and chose to prioritize other cards, which is understandable, but if not, you chose suboptimal cards in numerous instances, (again, especially mana base) which I don't understand.
Have you updated to pathways or the capenna lifegain land fetch's or triomes? As far as aggression have you added miirym, maybe a geode golem and the new subdragons from baldurs gate along with the dragonkind orbs? I would add a dragon arch since you have the ramp capability. Or monster manual. Sneak attack is brutal(you have a nice version) dont forget the world tree!
Funny you mentioned those cards! I am using some of those suggestions in my new build, usually I am able to win by turn 5, here is the link of you would to take a look! kzread.info/dash/bejne/aIWYo5elaLHFfsY.html
Hey great idea using that commander to cheat out big angels and get access to 5 colors. I was trying to build an angel deck of my own in 5 colors and I think this sold it for me. Thanks for sharing.
Glad this helped!
Thanks for the interview 🙏 it was a lot of fun 😀 my deck is already changed again since filming this
Time to have even more fun and make more!
Does eminence from Ur-Dragon reduce the cost of Hellkites activated ability? NVM. Just didn't hear the explanation clearly. lol
i wish it did
where did you get that sleeve with frames on ur-dragon?
its arcane armor
or just a sleeve
I got them at my local store, sadly I don't remember the brand
Please post your decklist somewhere so we can give a look.
I will upload a new video soon, with a lot of changes
Could you post a list
will post a new video with a new list, I made a lot of changes
have a question, instead of Savage ventmaw, you can use Klauth, right??? is the same effect or it must be Savage Ventmaw for the combo with Hellkite Charger??
Klauth is actually better because it'll actually give you 7 mana
@@lordreign9163 thankyou bro!!
I think the mana from klauth can only be spent on casting spells.
@@greghamilton5034 you’re Right… man. So no Klauth-Charger combo. Just Savage ventmaw. :c
@@greghamilton5034 you are correct my bad.
You should put ramos dragon Engine
Remind me to avoid this deck at all costs :p
I have yet to play commander with you!
@@alfredolainez6383 We need to fix that.
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