If God wanted women to be ordained ministers, then Jesus would have ordained women also.
@chishachifunda20775 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul.. blessings
@ruthbf69155 жыл бұрын
Thank you, may God continue nd finish the work he started in you God bless😊😊😊
@javierlauralaila7 жыл бұрын
What kind of soil do you use
@julitamikola24568 жыл бұрын
Amen! Glory be to God in the highest!
@toyag6388 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@dustinevans25178 жыл бұрын
I have a question. How can a woman be against her own gender being ordained. This is just wrong. I can understand for a man to be against it, but women in general. I support ordaining women. And I suggest that we quit condemning the ordination of women, and let them be ordained. The church needs to quit being a bunch of hypocrites. This is not what Jesus would do. I firmly believe that Jesus would support ordaining women. To tell someone, they don't have the right to be ordained, is not biblical. Quit telling women they don't have the right to be ordained.
@21stcenturysda609 жыл бұрын
With all due respect for those holding opposing views, I take umbrage with the focus on the priesthood of all believers which was spoken of by Peter while denying the statements of his contemporary, Paul, spoken in 1 Timothy 2:11-15. If everyone should be able to be ordained for the same duties than in addition to this call women's ordination than I say that there should also be a call for men's ordination to pregnancy and motherhood. I'm speaking sarcastically, but it is just not fair that only women are allowed to be mothers. Now please understand the point, a man can fill a great role in the raising of children, and in fact I was made aware by a relative that there have even been cases of males breastfeeding children, and when they became widowers they did just about all the duties of their wives in the rearing of children, but a man WILL NEVER, EVER be able to bear children. Thus, they will NEVER, EVER TRULY BE A MOTHER no matter what people like Bruce Jenner do. The same applies to the priest of the home (and vicariously the church), a woman can do pretty much all the duties of a man especially in his absence, but she should NEVER be considered the priest of the home, especially in his presence. Different roles does not mean inequality by any means. It simply means that God has given people different callings.
@21stcenturysda609 жыл бұрын
This was a well-prepared speech, and it was thought-provoking and Biblically-based. I was proud to hear this young woman highlighting the HIGHER ordination that women already have to the work of being a mother. She was not misinformed, misdirected, or confused at all. On the contrary, she hit the nail straight on the head. I would be one of the first to say that I love and respect the role of women in ministry both public and private, however, one cannot just throw out Paul's statements in 1 Timothy 2:11-15. He clearly references creation when he says that he allows not a woman to teach, nor to have dominion over a man, but to be in quietness." If we throw out this Scripture saying that it should only be interpreted contextually for Paul's day even though it references creation in verse 13, then others can then claim that God's ideal that marriage should be between a man and a woman only should only be contextualized for that time even though Paul speaks against homosexuality in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. Now some of you might say, "Well if that's the case we should still have slavery?" My response would be that Paul NEVER said that slavery was a good thing. He just told servants to be obedient to their masters but not as menpleasers, while he told the masters not to be harsh to their servants. Better yet, if we believe that the General Conference in session should be considered as the voice of God (as long as it doesn't contradict scripture) then those with other opinions need TO GET OVER IT, and humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God. It was not the will of God that women should be ordained PERIOD. However, they still have a ministry to accomplish, and they have a HIGHER ordination to motherhood for those who get married.
@voiceofreason98509 жыл бұрын
21st Century SDA and could you conceive of a woman having neither a husband nor children being called by the Hold Spirit to be head pastor of a church or a conference president?
@grumps95389 жыл бұрын
Oh dear... what a lot of misinformation is shared here... GYC has a disappointing history of failure to support the Adventist Church in major issues.... favouring a regressive rather than progressive understanding of 'belonging'. They themselves are far more divisive than this speech suggests. This speech shows a negative stance on the gifting of the Spirit, the priesthood of all believers, the meaning of ordination and the role of women in the church. like other groups that are creating division in the church they should not be recognised as a supporting ministry.
@charlesparker93559 жыл бұрын
This is a "do you know who I am" and it's "about me" polemic. The world doesn't revolve around the SdA church, much less GYC, and even less around a McNeilus appointee.
@MichaelOfDC9 жыл бұрын
Natasha, thank you for bringing huge relief to me by your comment during the GC Session. I watched with disappointment and amazement for hours as people continued to argue for a Yes or No vote on the ordination of women. I wondered why the whole set of delegates continued to miss what may be the most important point against women ordination. When the NAD/PUC/SECC argue that refusing to ordain women "relegates women to be less important than men and so that women become second-class citizens," such views by our leaders betray how poorly they understand the highest calling on this planet: motherhood. Why do some of us feel that the ordained pastor possesses the greatest position in our church? Being a mother remains by far the most important calling above that of any king, president, pastor, bishop, CEO, or any other position. Thanks Natasha for highlighting this very important point. Even though I am a male, I hope the next few years we can start turning the tide to reflect and emphasize the value of a mother.
@voiceofreason98509 жыл бұрын
MichaelOfDC I'm hearing you, and thanks for posting. I'd like to say from what I know of being a woman that "possessing the greatest position in our church" is not and will probably never be a motivation to be involved in ministry, we just don't have the same kind of ego about such things as men do, and we don't think about it in these terms. Also, it takes alot of mental effort, awareness and re-patterning the way we think talk and act to NOT be discriminatory... it's not easy and it's something one has to ACTIVELY do when we've been programmed to have such attitudes from our parents etc. as children. I can tell you don't have these problems, you can recognize that we are all equal in importance while having different roles. For example, if a church has a female head pastor, this doesn't put her above anyone else in the congregation in importance, in fact we are all still equal under Christ as the head. And I would go further to suggest that a woman who is a minister/head pastor/counsellor/administrator isn't even thinking in terms of power and control, she's thinking about how she can fulfill her calling in the best way possible. And she is probably also a mother, and can do that role well also.
@NateH19848 жыл бұрын
+VoiceOfReason Does not matter if a woman can "do the role", that is a worldly mindset not a heavenly one. What matters sister, is the Biblical pattern. I have a few questions for you that I am hoping you could answer: How would you interpret 1 Tim. 3:5 from a contextual and Biblical hermeneutic of the office of elder/bishop/overseer? How would you explain the phrase, "husband of one wife" in 1 Tim. 3:1-7 (see vs. 2 specifically) and Titus 1:5-9 into the "wife of one husband" and not have them in complete polarization and contradictory terms to the plain reading of 1 Tim. 3:5? Could you explain "able bodied men" in light of Ex. 18:25-19:6? Also could you kindly answer why did God not allow women into the role of priest of high priest in the OT sanctuary system? Regarding Acts chapter 1: Why did the pool of possibles for appointing a replacement for Judas before Pentecost only consist of a pool of 2 men? If women are to take the office of elder/biship/overseer according to WO proponents in order for the Holy Spirit to be poured out, why then does Joel 2:28-29 not take precedence for the appointment of women, and what immediately followed was Pentecost in Acts 2 and there were multiple women in the upper room there who according to WO proponents are capable of "doing the job" or "taking the role". Why were there no women to replace Judas' office? Also could you please explain why the office of the deacons in Acts 6:1-8 only consisted of appointing men? I would also add a caveat which is that the office of a prophet is not the same as office of an elder/bishop/overseer (cf 1 Cor. 12, Eph 4:7-15). "we just don't have the same kind of ego about such things as men do, and we don't think about it in these terms." Come on sister, you shouldn't be saying things like this. That statement is a broad brush fallacy, not sure why you even posted it frankly, it appears far more emotive than Biblical or reasonable. What is clear to me is that you have taken an underhanded jab at men in the pastorate, you didn't provide Scriptural support for your position nor from the Testimonies either. 2 Tim. 2:15 is to be our guide in these matters. I should like to summarize by stating that women were simply not to take the position of elder/bishop/overseer in the church, this isn't man's standard, it is God's. There is not plain reading of Scripture that supports it nor is there any precedent for it. Are there some men who have ego problems and consider it "just a job"? Absolutely. However, we shouldn't be so quick to throw the proverbial "baby out with the bathwater". There is no misogynistic speech is involved or woman-hating ideas, or whatever endearing term you would like to call it is has any underlying principle in this discussion. I think it is applied, but it simply is not there. This is God speaking through His word and we should be following His standards not our own. I do not mean this post in any condemnatory manner, but I pray we may all come up higher to God's standard and not try and make God's standard come down to ours.
@tradejs9 жыл бұрын
Hey Natasha - anyone can pop out a baby and be a mother. Plenty of that going around but thanks for denying those with a higher calling an opportunity to equally pursue it.
@nickolassmith4739 жыл бұрын
Being a mother is more than that.
@Rikko79 жыл бұрын
Properly raising a Christian child is the highest calling for a mother.
@voiceofreason98509 жыл бұрын
***** why "higher calling" and not just "different calling"?
@ruthrenteriadelopez52559 жыл бұрын
we need more people like her!!
@gillmourtunhira9 жыл бұрын
After the GC debate and vote on the issue, i now believe more that NAD has faithful witnesses to the calling, who can neither be bought or sold, and Natasha is one of them
@stopdoingabortions49509 жыл бұрын
Jesus is coming soon !!! May God's will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.... Motherhood is the highest calling there is on earth. Thanks for posting this video!
@bldlightpainting9 жыл бұрын
So why do you think WO has garnered so much attention, passion, and division in the church, while much more important issues like abortion has not? Is not the killing of innocent children in SDA hospitals a very clear violation of God's 6th command ("you must not murder") infinitely more important then whether or not sinful mortal men should or should not acknowledge a women as possessing the gifts for pastoral ministry? "Though we walk the fence, Adventists lean toward abortion rather than against it. Because we realize we are confronted by big problems of hunger and overpopulation, we do not oppose family planning and appropriate endeavors to control population." -Neal C. Wilson, president of the North American Division of Seventh-day Adventists, Religious News Service, March 17, 1970 www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/1991/08/abortion-history-of-adventist-guidelines
@brothertonyo9 жыл бұрын
TheFew TheProud I wish I could give more than one thumb up!
@ooooo39999 жыл бұрын
I am so confused. I don't mean to sound ignorant but is she saying she is for or against women's ordination?
@MelissaJLawrensen9 жыл бұрын
ooooo3 she's against WO :)
@tradejs9 жыл бұрын
ooooo3 She's against it because the highest calling for a woman is childbirth :)
@ooooo39999 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys! :)
@meriamwaddell9 жыл бұрын
I praise God for you Natasha.
@azureblue79 жыл бұрын
As a young wife and mother I appreciated her speaking up and speaking what many of us had on our hearts.
@Edgarmaxx9 жыл бұрын
Thank you Natasha for your courage and willingness to share as a sister in ministry! May the Spirit continue to lead in all areas of your life! How exciting are these times we are living in! Jesus is coming soon! Jesus is coming soon! Jesus is coming soon!!!
@ionatalina9 жыл бұрын
Praise to God !!!
@brianholland30519 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the speeches by Elder Paulsen, Natasha and Elder Wilson were all that were needed. Everyone else could have basically sat down. Not that the other people were unimportant, but those three were the only real contributors to the discussion.
@jaelbaldwin79999 жыл бұрын
Bring it, sister! Amen!
@sierraschwab9 жыл бұрын
Tasha, I am so thankful that you, by God's grace, had the courage and boldness to speak on behalf of all the women who know and understand their God given place in life, family, under God, and in the church. Thank you for being willing, and thank you for using your voice.
@OmotEst9 жыл бұрын
What about those women called to be single like 1Cor 7 says?
@johngilmore83689 жыл бұрын
OmotEst As with all God's children, they also can work for Him and His kingdom, just not as a wife.
@MichaelOfDC9 жыл бұрын
OmotEst The women called to be single are important both to God and to the church. However, the point is that being a mother remains by far the most important calling above that of any king, pastor, president, CEO, or any other position.
@Rikko79 жыл бұрын
Glad to have such a leader at GYC. It is the one of the few ministries where Adventist young people are being rightfully trained.
@Harry7771589 жыл бұрын
I am the vice president of GYC Costa Rica, and we are delighted that Natasha has said things as they should be. Praise God that young brave! God bless Natasha and Paul! And we continue in our mission to grow this movement and prepare for the Second Coming of Christ!
@profamsda79 жыл бұрын
My favorite comment from the delegates Thanks Natasha! and congrats on the greatest job ahead of you!
@Kurauone__9 жыл бұрын
Hans Westermeyer Although men and women are of equal worth - God has assigned different roles to each of them. That is in line with God's order. The Son testifies of His Father and the Spirit testifies of the Son. But all three all are equal. It is not that hard to understand.
@brothertonyo9 жыл бұрын
Hans Westermeyer Followers of the Bible
@emor229 жыл бұрын
Rima Haylock Westermeyer Homosexual movement uses that passage too ;)
@Kurauone__9 жыл бұрын
Rima Haylock Westermeyer Read that passage in its context. Galatians 3 is talking about the conditions of acceptance with God as not being by works but by faith. It continues to say that race, class, or gender are not conditions of acceptance as many of the Jews then and even some today are inclined to think. Galatians 3:13-14, 24-29 13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. The passage above is not talking about the qualifications for pastoral ministry. The following passages are: 1 Tim 3:12 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach... Titus 1:6-86 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;8 But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;...
@emor229 жыл бұрын
Homosexual movement uses this passage out of context too. Galatians 3 does speak of salvation not "function". Sorry but the vote was "no". Time to preach now. Enought time has been lost on this topic. Blessings :)
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If God wanted women to be ordained ministers, then Jesus would have ordained women also.
Thank you Paul.. blessings
Thank you, may God continue nd finish the work he started in you God bless😊😊😊
What kind of soil do you use
Amen! Glory be to God in the highest!
Amen!
I have a question. How can a woman be against her own gender being ordained. This is just wrong. I can understand for a man to be against it, but women in general. I support ordaining women. And I suggest that we quit condemning the ordination of women, and let them be ordained. The church needs to quit being a bunch of hypocrites. This is not what Jesus would do. I firmly believe that Jesus would support ordaining women. To tell someone, they don't have the right to be ordained, is not biblical. Quit telling women they don't have the right to be ordained.
With all due respect for those holding opposing views, I take umbrage with the focus on the priesthood of all believers which was spoken of by Peter while denying the statements of his contemporary, Paul, spoken in 1 Timothy 2:11-15. If everyone should be able to be ordained for the same duties than in addition to this call women's ordination than I say that there should also be a call for men's ordination to pregnancy and motherhood. I'm speaking sarcastically, but it is just not fair that only women are allowed to be mothers. Now please understand the point, a man can fill a great role in the raising of children, and in fact I was made aware by a relative that there have even been cases of males breastfeeding children, and when they became widowers they did just about all the duties of their wives in the rearing of children, but a man WILL NEVER, EVER be able to bear children. Thus, they will NEVER, EVER TRULY BE A MOTHER no matter what people like Bruce Jenner do. The same applies to the priest of the home (and vicariously the church), a woman can do pretty much all the duties of a man especially in his absence, but she should NEVER be considered the priest of the home, especially in his presence. Different roles does not mean inequality by any means. It simply means that God has given people different callings.
This was a well-prepared speech, and it was thought-provoking and Biblically-based. I was proud to hear this young woman highlighting the HIGHER ordination that women already have to the work of being a mother. She was not misinformed, misdirected, or confused at all. On the contrary, she hit the nail straight on the head. I would be one of the first to say that I love and respect the role of women in ministry both public and private, however, one cannot just throw out Paul's statements in 1 Timothy 2:11-15. He clearly references creation when he says that he allows not a woman to teach, nor to have dominion over a man, but to be in quietness." If we throw out this Scripture saying that it should only be interpreted contextually for Paul's day even though it references creation in verse 13, then others can then claim that God's ideal that marriage should be between a man and a woman only should only be contextualized for that time even though Paul speaks against homosexuality in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. Now some of you might say, "Well if that's the case we should still have slavery?" My response would be that Paul NEVER said that slavery was a good thing. He just told servants to be obedient to their masters but not as menpleasers, while he told the masters not to be harsh to their servants. Better yet, if we believe that the General Conference in session should be considered as the voice of God (as long as it doesn't contradict scripture) then those with other opinions need TO GET OVER IT, and humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God. It was not the will of God that women should be ordained PERIOD. However, they still have a ministry to accomplish, and they have a HIGHER ordination to motherhood for those who get married.
21st Century SDA and could you conceive of a woman having neither a husband nor children being called by the Hold Spirit to be head pastor of a church or a conference president?
Oh dear... what a lot of misinformation is shared here... GYC has a disappointing history of failure to support the Adventist Church in major issues.... favouring a regressive rather than progressive understanding of 'belonging'. They themselves are far more divisive than this speech suggests. This speech shows a negative stance on the gifting of the Spirit, the priesthood of all believers, the meaning of ordination and the role of women in the church. like other groups that are creating division in the church they should not be recognised as a supporting ministry.
This is a "do you know who I am" and it's "about me" polemic. The world doesn't revolve around the SdA church, much less GYC, and even less around a McNeilus appointee.
Natasha, thank you for bringing huge relief to me by your comment during the GC Session. I watched with disappointment and amazement for hours as people continued to argue for a Yes or No vote on the ordination of women. I wondered why the whole set of delegates continued to miss what may be the most important point against women ordination. When the NAD/PUC/SECC argue that refusing to ordain women "relegates women to be less important than men and so that women become second-class citizens," such views by our leaders betray how poorly they understand the highest calling on this planet: motherhood. Why do some of us feel that the ordained pastor possesses the greatest position in our church? Being a mother remains by far the most important calling above that of any king, president, pastor, bishop, CEO, or any other position. Thanks Natasha for highlighting this very important point. Even though I am a male, I hope the next few years we can start turning the tide to reflect and emphasize the value of a mother.
MichaelOfDC I'm hearing you, and thanks for posting. I'd like to say from what I know of being a woman that "possessing the greatest position in our church" is not and will probably never be a motivation to be involved in ministry, we just don't have the same kind of ego about such things as men do, and we don't think about it in these terms. Also, it takes alot of mental effort, awareness and re-patterning the way we think talk and act to NOT be discriminatory... it's not easy and it's something one has to ACTIVELY do when we've been programmed to have such attitudes from our parents etc. as children. I can tell you don't have these problems, you can recognize that we are all equal in importance while having different roles. For example, if a church has a female head pastor, this doesn't put her above anyone else in the congregation in importance, in fact we are all still equal under Christ as the head. And I would go further to suggest that a woman who is a minister/head pastor/counsellor/administrator isn't even thinking in terms of power and control, she's thinking about how she can fulfill her calling in the best way possible. And she is probably also a mother, and can do that role well also.
+VoiceOfReason Does not matter if a woman can "do the role", that is a worldly mindset not a heavenly one. What matters sister, is the Biblical pattern. I have a few questions for you that I am hoping you could answer: How would you interpret 1 Tim. 3:5 from a contextual and Biblical hermeneutic of the office of elder/bishop/overseer? How would you explain the phrase, "husband of one wife" in 1 Tim. 3:1-7 (see vs. 2 specifically) and Titus 1:5-9 into the "wife of one husband" and not have them in complete polarization and contradictory terms to the plain reading of 1 Tim. 3:5? Could you explain "able bodied men" in light of Ex. 18:25-19:6? Also could you kindly answer why did God not allow women into the role of priest of high priest in the OT sanctuary system? Regarding Acts chapter 1: Why did the pool of possibles for appointing a replacement for Judas before Pentecost only consist of a pool of 2 men? If women are to take the office of elder/biship/overseer according to WO proponents in order for the Holy Spirit to be poured out, why then does Joel 2:28-29 not take precedence for the appointment of women, and what immediately followed was Pentecost in Acts 2 and there were multiple women in the upper room there who according to WO proponents are capable of "doing the job" or "taking the role". Why were there no women to replace Judas' office? Also could you please explain why the office of the deacons in Acts 6:1-8 only consisted of appointing men? I would also add a caveat which is that the office of a prophet is not the same as office of an elder/bishop/overseer (cf 1 Cor. 12, Eph 4:7-15). "we just don't have the same kind of ego about such things as men do, and we don't think about it in these terms." Come on sister, you shouldn't be saying things like this. That statement is a broad brush fallacy, not sure why you even posted it frankly, it appears far more emotive than Biblical or reasonable. What is clear to me is that you have taken an underhanded jab at men in the pastorate, you didn't provide Scriptural support for your position nor from the Testimonies either. 2 Tim. 2:15 is to be our guide in these matters. I should like to summarize by stating that women were simply not to take the position of elder/bishop/overseer in the church, this isn't man's standard, it is God's. There is not plain reading of Scripture that supports it nor is there any precedent for it. Are there some men who have ego problems and consider it "just a job"? Absolutely. However, we shouldn't be so quick to throw the proverbial "baby out with the bathwater". There is no misogynistic speech is involved or woman-hating ideas, or whatever endearing term you would like to call it is has any underlying principle in this discussion. I think it is applied, but it simply is not there. This is God speaking through His word and we should be following His standards not our own. I do not mean this post in any condemnatory manner, but I pray we may all come up higher to God's standard and not try and make God's standard come down to ours.
Hey Natasha - anyone can pop out a baby and be a mother. Plenty of that going around but thanks for denying those with a higher calling an opportunity to equally pursue it.
Being a mother is more than that.
Properly raising a Christian child is the highest calling for a mother.
***** why "higher calling" and not just "different calling"?
we need more people like her!!
After the GC debate and vote on the issue, i now believe more that NAD has faithful witnesses to the calling, who can neither be bought or sold, and Natasha is one of them
Jesus is coming soon !!! May God's will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.... Motherhood is the highest calling there is on earth. Thanks for posting this video!
So why do you think WO has garnered so much attention, passion, and division in the church, while much more important issues like abortion has not? Is not the killing of innocent children in SDA hospitals a very clear violation of God's 6th command ("you must not murder") infinitely more important then whether or not sinful mortal men should or should not acknowledge a women as possessing the gifts for pastoral ministry? "Though we walk the fence, Adventists lean toward abortion rather than against it. Because we realize we are confronted by big problems of hunger and overpopulation, we do not oppose family planning and appropriate endeavors to control population." -Neal C. Wilson, president of the North American Division of Seventh-day Adventists, Religious News Service, March 17, 1970 www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/1991/08/abortion-history-of-adventist-guidelines
TheFew TheProud I wish I could give more than one thumb up!
I am so confused. I don't mean to sound ignorant but is she saying she is for or against women's ordination?
ooooo3 she's against WO :)
ooooo3 She's against it because the highest calling for a woman is childbirth :)
Thank you guys! :)
I praise God for you Natasha.
As a young wife and mother I appreciated her speaking up and speaking what many of us had on our hearts.
Thank you Natasha for your courage and willingness to share as a sister in ministry! May the Spirit continue to lead in all areas of your life! How exciting are these times we are living in! Jesus is coming soon! Jesus is coming soon! Jesus is coming soon!!!
Praise to God !!!
In my opinion, the speeches by Elder Paulsen, Natasha and Elder Wilson were all that were needed. Everyone else could have basically sat down. Not that the other people were unimportant, but those three were the only real contributors to the discussion.
Bring it, sister! Amen!
Tasha, I am so thankful that you, by God's grace, had the courage and boldness to speak on behalf of all the women who know and understand their God given place in life, family, under God, and in the church. Thank you for being willing, and thank you for using your voice.
What about those women called to be single like 1Cor 7 says?
OmotEst As with all God's children, they also can work for Him and His kingdom, just not as a wife.
OmotEst The women called to be single are important both to God and to the church. However, the point is that being a mother remains by far the most important calling above that of any king, pastor, president, CEO, or any other position.
Glad to have such a leader at GYC. It is the one of the few ministries where Adventist young people are being rightfully trained.
I am the vice president of GYC Costa Rica, and we are delighted that Natasha has said things as they should be. Praise God that young brave! God bless Natasha and Paul! And we continue in our mission to grow this movement and prepare for the Second Coming of Christ!
My favorite comment from the delegates Thanks Natasha! and congrats on the greatest job ahead of you!
Hans Westermeyer Although men and women are of equal worth - God has assigned different roles to each of them. That is in line with God's order. The Son testifies of His Father and the Spirit testifies of the Son. But all three all are equal. It is not that hard to understand.
Hans Westermeyer Followers of the Bible
Rima Haylock Westermeyer Homosexual movement uses that passage too ;)
Rima Haylock Westermeyer Read that passage in its context. Galatians 3 is talking about the conditions of acceptance with God as not being by works but by faith. It continues to say that race, class, or gender are not conditions of acceptance as many of the Jews then and even some today are inclined to think. Galatians 3:13-14, 24-29 13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. The passage above is not talking about the qualifications for pastoral ministry. The following passages are: 1 Tim 3:12 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach... Titus 1:6-86 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;8 But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;...
Homosexual movement uses this passage out of context too. Galatians 3 does speak of salvation not "function". Sorry but the vote was "no". Time to preach now. Enought time has been lost on this topic. Blessings :)
Amazing Love!!
Thanks for this..... What a wonderful Savior !!!
This is beautiful!