Thank you for stating the hinge on the cabinet is 170 that is what I needed to know
@thomasgonzales9689Ай бұрын
You’re a Complete pro! Thank you.
@danthechippie4439Ай бұрын
Great example, the test at the end is a great idea. Can i ask in reference to measuring for under mount draw slides, when you say the box depth needs to be the exact length of the draw slide do you mean the overall length of the draw slide or do you mean fron the front of the draw slide to the back of the spud that you need to drill a hole for, or are they the same measurement?
@keystonewoodspecialties1973Ай бұрын
Thanks for the comments! When I refer to the slide length I'm referring to the length of drawer they are designed to be used with. In other words, a set of 21" drawer slides is designed to be used with a 21" deep drawer. A set of 18" deep drawer slides is designed for use with 18" deep drawers. Physically measuring the slides could result in some incorrectly sized drawers because the slides stick out past the spur, as you mentioned. Hopefully that helps! Happy installing! ~Dan
@PeterFournier-yq7kw2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Finally a video that presented this topic clearly, especially for someone like me who's not especially handy. I was struggling to find the correct hinges to connect the 2 doors together as ours fell apart, ordered the wrong ones twice and then finally you uttered the magic words "60 degree bifold hinges".
@josephbohme79172 ай бұрын
You would expect to have shown the system installed-= without that it would seem no one has one. It just does not show the in use in kitchen, utility, easier or difficult
@ethanmakai3 ай бұрын
If the blind corner hinge overlay hinge that I need I can only find in press in but my doors are plywood, will the press in hinge work in my plywood door?
@fredjones433 ай бұрын
Great but I guess I missed how to determine the length of the side mount slides needed. I think it is the same as the depth measurement. So for a 19” deep drawer they should be 19”. can anyone confirm that? Thank you in advance.
@keystonewoodspecialties19733 ай бұрын
Hi Fred! For side mount drawer slides the exact depth of the drawer is not as critical, although it's good practice to match the drawer depth with the slides so you can maintain "full extension." And with side mount slides, if your clearance is really tight (for example maybe your interior depth is 22-1/4"), you can mount the slides to the side of the cabinet instead of to the back of the cabinet and might be able to squeeze a 22" deep drawer in there. With under mount slides you need about 1" behind the drawer, no matter how you attach the slides to the cabinet, because the slides wrap around the back of the drawer. Also, check with the slide manufacturer about what sizes they offer. Most offer lengths in 2" increments, 22", 20", 18", 16", etc., but some manufacturers have unique sizes. Hopefully that helps! ~Dan
@jarrydubbelyu21663 ай бұрын
When boring the middle cups on a thermofoil door, will thr bit tear apart the thermofoil coating when blowing out the side?
@keystonewoodspecialties19733 ай бұрын
Hi Jarry, that is definitely a possibility! I always recommend testing it on a scrap piece first, if you have one. And if you're consistently getting tearout on your scrap piece I would recommend switching to a different type of corner hinge. Salice makes a hinge that uses a more typical cup drilling that doesn't cut into the edge of the door. Hopefully that helps! ~Dan
@MrActionjs4 ай бұрын
Thanks it would have been helpful if you hadn't pre drilled the hinge plate and shower how you aligned the plate.
@CinHalCedHerChance2 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure the doors come with the holes pre-drilled, mine did.
@sandywjo54 ай бұрын
Great video! I have one question, I ordered new hinges, but notice that the one that sets in the bored out hole on cabinet door is coming away from the door about 1/8 inch, and you can't screw the screw any tighter. Does this mean something inside the door has rotted and will not even hold a new hinge there where that screw is? The hinge is tight enough to stay on, just not sitting flush in that hole.
@keystonewoodspecialties19734 ай бұрын
Thanks for the question! Based on your description of the situation I believe there are actually two issues here. I believe the new hinges probably require a deeper bore; that's likely what's preventing the hinges from sitting flush against the door. It's also possible that there's something under the hinge, maybe a piece of debris, that's preventing it from going against, so check that first. And the first problem likely caused the second problem: loose screws. The original screws could have been a larger diameter than the new screws and/or the new screws were over-torqued trying to get the hinges to sit flush with the face of the door. The result is a stripped out screw hole. My recommendation here is to either switch to a larger diameter screw or drill out the screw hole with a 1/4" drill bit, glue and plug it with a 1/4" wooden dowel, and then pre drill and reattach the hinges. Hopefully that helps! ~ Dan
@Idunnoaboutyou5 ай бұрын
Great vid thanks
@Dunc22225 ай бұрын
Good presentation, thanks. I prefer not using metal drawer slides, but wooden runners instead. Wish you had discussed fitting those options.
@Lamplightprodsuk5 ай бұрын
Very good…… but for simpletons like me, you have forgotten to address the issue of measuring and cutting the 45 degree cut. Surely that is part of “installing crown moulding”. My web search continues 😊
@mitchellpress98022 ай бұрын
Hi. Did you find a good link on the 45°? I’m facing the same issue now as I start my install.
@markphillips5906 ай бұрын
I appreciate your video and it seemed to have answered most of the people's questions; mine was how to mount the bracket into the shelf. I had an old GRASS hinge and since they are no longer manufactures, I purchased the Ferrari hinge; and when I have put them on, they have been in a bind. I will get it figured out. Thanks again from 2024!
@ericlind35697 ай бұрын
Are both doors the same equal width?? Or is one door 3/4” less than the other with all the cups drilled in it, to account for the door thickness??
@mattspinny10488 ай бұрын
I've installed cabs for 25 yrs and quite frankly we don't use any of these methods
@mayraortiz50098 ай бұрын
Bla bla bla bla why don't you get to the point.
@MikeL-vu7jo8 ай бұрын
Thanks good information , I'm dealing with 43 inch wall cabinets that are a full overlay door and close to the ceiling I'll have to build on heels to the crown molding first and use that method , Thanks .
@TheNewports8 ай бұрын
I have a cabinet that is 80" tall that i am considering using a hinge like this on. Instead of a lazy susan it is a large corner cabinet in a closet. Can I use 4 or 5 sets of hinges and use these hinges in the same way as you use here on a base cabinet.
@marcyrose21218 ай бұрын
Thank you your video is the only one that answered my question
@bwealthyrb1239 ай бұрын
Your explanation of the heel crown save the day! Thank you!
@deegee19219 ай бұрын
Can you epoxy them in if the cabinet maker screwed up the hole size? Went to large
@ohdeckrails11239 ай бұрын
Thanks Dan, I have always hated install crown mudding. Thank showing us the diffrent between them 2. 🙏
@jamespolucha879011 ай бұрын
So I cannot make my drawers until I get or figure out what slides I’m using correct ?
@keystonewoodspecialties197310 ай бұрын
Hi James, that is correct. Additionally, if you're using undermount slides, you would also need to decide how thick your drawer sides are going to be, which will also affect your overall drawer size (ex. a drawer with 5/8" thick sides will need to be a different overall width than a drawer with 1/2" thick sides, even if you're putting them both in the same size opening and using the exact same UM hardware). Hopefully that helps! ~Dan
@farnorth158711 ай бұрын
thankyou , good tip on shelf and hinge position
@lawrenceikechukwu9499 Жыл бұрын
How to baked cake
@swelllife Жыл бұрын
This guy told me everything I needed to know in simple terms. Fantastic.
@28112811j Жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative. Im ready to install my first undermount slides and this video cleared up the few questions I had. Thank you very much.
@RiotGrrrlMeg Жыл бұрын
This was really useful, thank you.
@berbababy Жыл бұрын
Hey! What's the centre measurement for the 'half-bore' hole? I know it's a 35mm bore, but how far from the edge should I start my drill?
@keystonewoodspecialties1973 Жыл бұрын
Hi Marco, thanks for asking! The current Blum spec book indicates 12.5mm from the edge of the door to the center of the bore. And yes, the bore diameter is 35mm. Hope that helps! ~Dan
@juliemdc5585 Жыл бұрын
Super helpful - thank you!
@FearlessFoundation Жыл бұрын
Great info.
@kurt5782 Жыл бұрын
Can you use the undermount if a drawer has a flush bottom? or does it have to have that 1/2" gap?
@keystonewoodspecialties1973 Жыл бұрын
Hi Kurt, Great question! In order for the undermount slides to be secured to the drawer properly they need some type of horizontal stabilizer. In cases where the bottom is recessed by 1/2", the drawer sides, which extend 1/2" below the bottom, act as that stabilizer, and the front locking devices help secure the runners to the drawer and hold the runners against the drawer sides. If those stabilizers were missing (flush bottom), I don't believe the front locking devices provide enough lateral stability by themselves. Blum has an example of a 3/4" pull-out shelf that uses undermount runners. In order to provide lateral stability they simply add 1/2" high pieces to the bottom. That's on pg. 24 of my Tandem plus Blumotion spec guide. So the answer is, "yes, you can install UM track on flush bottoms if you add lateral stability." Just be careful about your depth sizing based on where you're putting your front locking devices. Hopefully that helps! ~Dan
@ToolMetrix Жыл бұрын
This is superb! Thank you for sharing.
@fishlover4523 Жыл бұрын
My left ear is happy while my right is sad
@BeckVMH Жыл бұрын
I'm needing to replace kitchen cabinet 2" crown molding and still match the existing molding on other parts of the cabinets. House built in 1998 and I can't find matching molding at either Lowes or Home Depot. Coincidently, I came to this video and noticed my crown molding I believe matches the sample shown during the beginning of your video. Any suggestions how to match this or where to buy 2" molding?
@Finefinishcabinetry Жыл бұрын
Any chance of MDF stile cracking from the hammering?
The hinges used in this video are BLUM 60 degree clip-top (79T8500.10 with hinge mounting plate 175H6000) and BLUM 170 degree clip-top (71T6550). We recommend that you refer to the BLUM literature for the hinge that suits your specific application.
@juanojeda2982 Жыл бұрын
Great video and visual examples like this way or teaching defiantly nice layout
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Thank you for stating the hinge on the cabinet is 170 that is what I needed to know
You’re a Complete pro! Thank you.
Great example, the test at the end is a great idea. Can i ask in reference to measuring for under mount draw slides, when you say the box depth needs to be the exact length of the draw slide do you mean the overall length of the draw slide or do you mean fron the front of the draw slide to the back of the spud that you need to drill a hole for, or are they the same measurement?
Thanks for the comments! When I refer to the slide length I'm referring to the length of drawer they are designed to be used with. In other words, a set of 21" drawer slides is designed to be used with a 21" deep drawer. A set of 18" deep drawer slides is designed for use with 18" deep drawers. Physically measuring the slides could result in some incorrectly sized drawers because the slides stick out past the spur, as you mentioned. Hopefully that helps! Happy installing! ~Dan
Thank you! Finally a video that presented this topic clearly, especially for someone like me who's not especially handy. I was struggling to find the correct hinges to connect the 2 doors together as ours fell apart, ordered the wrong ones twice and then finally you uttered the magic words "60 degree bifold hinges".
You would expect to have shown the system installed-= without that it would seem no one has one. It just does not show the in use in kitchen, utility, easier or difficult
If the blind corner hinge overlay hinge that I need I can only find in press in but my doors are plywood, will the press in hinge work in my plywood door?
Great but I guess I missed how to determine the length of the side mount slides needed. I think it is the same as the depth measurement. So for a 19” deep drawer they should be 19”. can anyone confirm that? Thank you in advance.
Hi Fred! For side mount drawer slides the exact depth of the drawer is not as critical, although it's good practice to match the drawer depth with the slides so you can maintain "full extension." And with side mount slides, if your clearance is really tight (for example maybe your interior depth is 22-1/4"), you can mount the slides to the side of the cabinet instead of to the back of the cabinet and might be able to squeeze a 22" deep drawer in there. With under mount slides you need about 1" behind the drawer, no matter how you attach the slides to the cabinet, because the slides wrap around the back of the drawer. Also, check with the slide manufacturer about what sizes they offer. Most offer lengths in 2" increments, 22", 20", 18", 16", etc., but some manufacturers have unique sizes. Hopefully that helps! ~Dan
When boring the middle cups on a thermofoil door, will thr bit tear apart the thermofoil coating when blowing out the side?
Hi Jarry, that is definitely a possibility! I always recommend testing it on a scrap piece first, if you have one. And if you're consistently getting tearout on your scrap piece I would recommend switching to a different type of corner hinge. Salice makes a hinge that uses a more typical cup drilling that doesn't cut into the edge of the door. Hopefully that helps! ~Dan
Thanks it would have been helpful if you hadn't pre drilled the hinge plate and shower how you aligned the plate.
I'm pretty sure the doors come with the holes pre-drilled, mine did.
Great video! I have one question, I ordered new hinges, but notice that the one that sets in the bored out hole on cabinet door is coming away from the door about 1/8 inch, and you can't screw the screw any tighter. Does this mean something inside the door has rotted and will not even hold a new hinge there where that screw is? The hinge is tight enough to stay on, just not sitting flush in that hole.
Thanks for the question! Based on your description of the situation I believe there are actually two issues here. I believe the new hinges probably require a deeper bore; that's likely what's preventing the hinges from sitting flush against the door. It's also possible that there's something under the hinge, maybe a piece of debris, that's preventing it from going against, so check that first. And the first problem likely caused the second problem: loose screws. The original screws could have been a larger diameter than the new screws and/or the new screws were over-torqued trying to get the hinges to sit flush with the face of the door. The result is a stripped out screw hole. My recommendation here is to either switch to a larger diameter screw or drill out the screw hole with a 1/4" drill bit, glue and plug it with a 1/4" wooden dowel, and then pre drill and reattach the hinges. Hopefully that helps! ~ Dan
Great vid thanks
Good presentation, thanks. I prefer not using metal drawer slides, but wooden runners instead. Wish you had discussed fitting those options.
Very good…… but for simpletons like me, you have forgotten to address the issue of measuring and cutting the 45 degree cut. Surely that is part of “installing crown moulding”. My web search continues 😊
Hi. Did you find a good link on the 45°? I’m facing the same issue now as I start my install.
I appreciate your video and it seemed to have answered most of the people's questions; mine was how to mount the bracket into the shelf. I had an old GRASS hinge and since they are no longer manufactures, I purchased the Ferrari hinge; and when I have put them on, they have been in a bind. I will get it figured out. Thanks again from 2024!
Are both doors the same equal width?? Or is one door 3/4” less than the other with all the cups drilled in it, to account for the door thickness??
I've installed cabs for 25 yrs and quite frankly we don't use any of these methods
Bla bla bla bla why don't you get to the point.
Thanks good information , I'm dealing with 43 inch wall cabinets that are a full overlay door and close to the ceiling I'll have to build on heels to the crown molding first and use that method , Thanks .
I have a cabinet that is 80" tall that i am considering using a hinge like this on. Instead of a lazy susan it is a large corner cabinet in a closet. Can I use 4 or 5 sets of hinges and use these hinges in the same way as you use here on a base cabinet.
Thank you your video is the only one that answered my question
Your explanation of the heel crown save the day! Thank you!
Can you epoxy them in if the cabinet maker screwed up the hole size? Went to large
Thanks Dan, I have always hated install crown mudding. Thank showing us the diffrent between them 2. 🙏
So I cannot make my drawers until I get or figure out what slides I’m using correct ?
Hi James, that is correct. Additionally, if you're using undermount slides, you would also need to decide how thick your drawer sides are going to be, which will also affect your overall drawer size (ex. a drawer with 5/8" thick sides will need to be a different overall width than a drawer with 1/2" thick sides, even if you're putting them both in the same size opening and using the exact same UM hardware). Hopefully that helps! ~Dan
thankyou , good tip on shelf and hinge position
How to baked cake
This guy told me everything I needed to know in simple terms. Fantastic.
Great video, very informative. Im ready to install my first undermount slides and this video cleared up the few questions I had. Thank you very much.
This was really useful, thank you.
Hey! What's the centre measurement for the 'half-bore' hole? I know it's a 35mm bore, but how far from the edge should I start my drill?
Hi Marco, thanks for asking! The current Blum spec book indicates 12.5mm from the edge of the door to the center of the bore. And yes, the bore diameter is 35mm. Hope that helps! ~Dan
Super helpful - thank you!
Great info.
Can you use the undermount if a drawer has a flush bottom? or does it have to have that 1/2" gap?
Hi Kurt, Great question! In order for the undermount slides to be secured to the drawer properly they need some type of horizontal stabilizer. In cases where the bottom is recessed by 1/2", the drawer sides, which extend 1/2" below the bottom, act as that stabilizer, and the front locking devices help secure the runners to the drawer and hold the runners against the drawer sides. If those stabilizers were missing (flush bottom), I don't believe the front locking devices provide enough lateral stability by themselves. Blum has an example of a 3/4" pull-out shelf that uses undermount runners. In order to provide lateral stability they simply add 1/2" high pieces to the bottom. That's on pg. 24 of my Tandem plus Blumotion spec guide. So the answer is, "yes, you can install UM track on flush bottoms if you add lateral stability." Just be careful about your depth sizing based on where you're putting your front locking devices. Hopefully that helps! ~Dan
This is superb! Thank you for sharing.
My left ear is happy while my right is sad
I'm needing to replace kitchen cabinet 2" crown molding and still match the existing molding on other parts of the cabinets. House built in 1998 and I can't find matching molding at either Lowes or Home Depot. Coincidently, I came to this video and noticed my crown molding I believe matches the sample shown during the beginning of your video. Any suggestions how to match this or where to buy 2" molding?
Any chance of MDF stile cracking from the hammering?
Excellent video! Clear, easily understood instructions. Thankyou
I did it with the Woodglut plans.
What kind door hinge is that
The hinges used in this video are BLUM 60 degree clip-top (79T8500.10 with hinge mounting plate 175H6000) and BLUM 170 degree clip-top (71T6550). We recommend that you refer to the BLUM literature for the hinge that suits your specific application.
Great video and visual examples like this way or teaching defiantly nice layout