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@neilrobertguinn661516 күн бұрын
Fincher's version is slick and polished, the original gritty and authentic. Rooney Mara did her best, but was no match for Noomi Rapace as Lisbeth, and I thought Daniel Craig just dialled in his performance.
@francisgilbert698217 күн бұрын
The original version with Noomi Repace was far better in not only acting but performance. The thing that you like about the Fincher version is exactly the main thing about what was wrong with it. The film works best as it was intended, as Swedish Noir. I have a lot of experience with Swedish Noir. It is dark, not bright. It is dirty not a slick film. Noomi is far better in her performance than Rooney Mara. The Fincher version was so bad that they didn't do the sequels The Girl Who Kicked The Hornets Nest and the Girl Who Played With Fire. However all three of the Swedish films were made ans I saw all three
@SevenFold-ck2kl18 күн бұрын
Swedish version is much better
@ptommo154320 күн бұрын
Nope, Roomi isn’t in the remake. Swede version is miles better. Fact.
@Waterboydust9922 күн бұрын
All the biased Swedes in the comments lol
@Birdboxed02324 күн бұрын
Is there another movie like this? I have seen Girl in the Spiders Web, Ghost in a Shell, and Cyber Punk Anime on Netflix. What am I missing?
@ekpil29 күн бұрын
I disagree
@TallBob1962Ай бұрын
Daniel Craig was wrong for this role. The Swedish characters are all so believable, Lisbeth most importantly so. No doubt Finchers is better directed and composed, but the Swedish film is better, more real.
@purplegalaxies21492 ай бұрын
The issue with this whole compression is that you’re basically comparing American cinematography and Swedish cinematography, not the movies themselves. American moves really love bombastic, eye popping shots, while many Swedish movies take it slowly and let the mood and atmosphere do the talking.
@christopherrose3432 ай бұрын
Finchers version is an insult to the characters as they were created in the books. There is so much information forming the characters in the books. My opinion
@vitanilange69262 ай бұрын
Noomi Rapace were perfect..
@atheist6662 ай бұрын
You like to state your sad little opinions as facts don’t you. It’s clear that being informed about the truth regarding the nasty little trite American rip off you like, has hurt your feelings so much that you need to repeatedly state nonsense to justify your low brow desires. A thousand times! Lol!!!(Who told you that?) A fact that only Swedish people prefer the original! Lol! (Seriously? And where is this fact written down outside of your tiny mind?) When someone lowers themselves so much that invented hyperbole is their only argument, it’s a bit sad, and also pleading to a non existent majority is yet another logical fallacy. You’re not in the majority, one movie was successful around the world, and the other failed even in America. It’s not the superbowl, America can’t call itself the world champions for playing a game nobody else cares about. In this case the game is stealing something good and spoiling it. Everything you’re saying is, at the end of the day, just… your… personal… opinion… about a Hollywood knock off… You have no class or taste, climb out of your sad little bubble and get yourself an education instead of choosing the lowest hanging fruit to enjoy.
@felwen12 ай бұрын
Take the original version any day of the week. More raw,, more nerve and far far more convincing. I think the original Swedish version is grade A movie and the US (wannabe) a grade c (b movie) in my opinion. Just haven't got the touch and feeling as a masterpiece like the Swedish have
@unamartini2 ай бұрын
Outrageous to even compare the american and the swedish one. The swedish version was real, it was tense and doesn’t let go of you. One of the best trilogies produced, of all time.
@_BhagavadGita2 ай бұрын
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@QuioGoyo2 ай бұрын
I keep rewatching this every once in a while. Really well done.
@jayceinfinitealgharhythmns98142 ай бұрын
I saw both versions and I alway thought that the Fincher version was better aesthetically speaking. But since it was a remake, it felt almost slanderous to say so. So I’m really glad I’m not alone in this case. I wish the cast and crew behind the remake would continue with the original trilogy sequels.
@davidfigueroa63512 ай бұрын
Fincher's version was not better. Sorry.
@OnRadar2 ай бұрын
Swedish version is real. No Hollywood b.s.
@davidfigueroa63512 ай бұрын
No. Swedish version was better.
@user-zd4li4rd2y3 ай бұрын
the swedish is cool fincher is pretence un cool
@wesbeuning17333 ай бұрын
Producers are sleeping on this developing this culturally significant character. The books are outstanding. We need more cerebral icons, and theres a lot of us in the audience thats always looking for grown-up thrillers and protagonists.
@a.a.74163 ай бұрын
I think both versions are interesting and worth watching. The Swedish version is various episodes long; thus, it has pros and cons. As a viewer, I wanted more length to extend the watching and the excitement. After many years, I recently (February 2024) watched like 6 episodes of the Swedish version and I loved it. The English version is fine, too, especially if you wish to cram the entire storyline within 2 hours.
@hannymary833 ай бұрын
Blomkvist Swedish isn't sleeping and bored, he's confused and tired by the sheer complexity of his investigation. That is only evident by reading the books.
@hannymary833 ай бұрын
Swedish all the way. I don't speak the language but it sounds beautiful and the suspense is amazing. When you read the biography of the authors life the Swedish version just fits socially.
@davew51613 ай бұрын
The european version is 100% better than the American.. Its as if the director toned down the movie not to offend Americans. From the brutal bed scene (where we had no idea she had a camera) all the way thru to the basement scene these movies don't compare. The euro version showed his death pictures, Fincher wouldn't touch that w a 10' pole ! Plus when Martin Vanger crashed its very important the Lisbeth got to see him and NOT help plays well into the story. Why did Fincher change that? The best scene in the whole 3 part trilogy is when Mikael presents Harriet to Henrik. Again a mystery to the viewers! "How's your health.... might you have a heart attack..."Laughing Henrik says.... "I'm on so many needs thats not possible"...Then you can see swing of emotions....the raw essence of 35 lost years..... him recognizing Harriet. WELL IF HE COULD HAVE HAD A HEART ATTCK THAT WOULD HAVE DONE IT.
@Matt-lv3zm3 ай бұрын
Nah, the Swede version is better imo
@KageNoTora743 ай бұрын
I prefer Noomi Rapace and Mikael Renquist.
@misspomerol3 ай бұрын
This was just a perfect example of a European Director making a movie for their audience and an American Director making an Americanized version for their audience. As someone who was born in the United States of America but now lives full-time in Europe I can tell you that a lot of Swedish people would probably not have liked the American version. These are groups of people with different artistic sensibilities. I don’t necessarily think one of these movies is better than the other . One was tailored to their audience. I personally like the original but I also left the United States and live in Europe full-time so that says a lot about my personal taste and sensibilities.
@jotsingh89173 ай бұрын
This dude is wrong. The Swedish version is more European and therefore much much better.
@georginarose-lg1tr3 ай бұрын
I have seen both, they both have a different flavor. The American version is ok, but I find the Swedish version vivid, it allows the viewer to smell, taste the scene. Allows the viewer to calculate the information. If, you are looking at smash and grab then go to the American version, if your look for a movie that grip you by the throat, allowing you to hear your heart beating in your ears go with the Swedish version with English captions. Yes, I am American, and not every remake is better than the original. I think most of all you should NEVER talk down one version against another. That just shows you have no class.
@mygumybear3 ай бұрын
Apart from the star actors I think the screenplay and dialogue were much better than the Swedish version, the exchange of dialogue between characters in fincher film have a subtle dramatisation but yet it was convincing done by the actors. The Swedish version was more realistic what people would do normally which is a bit “boring” but that’s the realistic way. Also the seating of mood, cinematography especially colour palette used in the Fincher movie, sets a tone for the interest. Also when did you ever get to see James Bond play an investigative journalist compared to a lethal spy? That was also one of the success of the film. The female lead for the film was also interesting and intriguing to watch.
@manofacertainrage8563 ай бұрын
But they aren't finished works - only the first part is. Execution of the entire vision matters. Fincher's version gets an incomplete mostly due to egos and money. Also, the flowers scene in the Swedish version is superior since there isn't a rather cheap false anticipation - the feeling of "I see this wall - what am I really looking at?" is more in line with the feelings of someone that is present in the scene. Fincher's intro of Lisbon is better. Sleep and bored seems subjective - on the train, maybe tired and stressed, but not overacting the "I'm thinking now" look? I will concede the rest. It's weird that so much happened in my life between those two movies, so they nearly felt like they were years apart.
@wilhelmreich83064 ай бұрын
The Swedish versions are better more edgy and more critical of these crimes
@sirsyncalot91474 ай бұрын
Since this film I’ve been obsessed with the soundtrack and Rooney Maras’ acting career. Sadly she hasn’t had a memorable performance since this film
@angelmorrigan76804 ай бұрын
i loved the american version with fincher directing- beautifully made and rooney mara was much closer to how the character was described in the book, anti- social angry, hanging her head down,.....with so many more expressions, and the wardrobe was so much better too! the swedish version salander was dressed like it was the 80's punk scene- the wardrobe budget mustve been very small in the swede version.
@Mistashiba4 ай бұрын
this is the rare case of both versions being as good as each other.
@TheSaintMatt4 ай бұрын
Yeah ... I love Fincher, but it's not. From the actors to the overall feel of the movies the swedish original cannot be beat. The american version can't caption it's authenticity, which is so crucial for the whole series. It may has better professional realisation, but the feeling is just not right. It is in it's essence still american and not scandinavian.
@xensonar96524 ай бұрын
Why the 2009 film is better: Noomi Rapace
@thebeardofpepew45384 ай бұрын
Dead on man dead on
@martinidry63004 ай бұрын
Yank remakes of Euro films are consistently risible. Appalling taste shown by reviewer.
@mojopin19974 ай бұрын
Swedish version way better.
@capt20264 ай бұрын
Fincher COPIED many scenes that the original Swedish version created. Anyone can take a good product and, given enough money, improve it. It is creating those scenes that is the art. Also, nobody could improve on Noomi as Lisbeth or Michael Nyevist as Blomkvist. So real, so believable, so Swedish. Stieg Larsson, I believe, would have preferred the Swedish version.
@lifeafterarmy30194 ай бұрын
Totally disagree, he just used something that existed and jumped on it. Your title and approach to this is unfair. The original is better.... period.
@wcg665 ай бұрын
Just no. The copy is never better.
@steggles6675 ай бұрын
What bollocks. The first Swedish version was miles better. I’ve watched both a few times and the English speaking version was just made for lazy people who can’t be bothered to read sub-titles, I found it quite boring. The first Swedish version was wonderfully dark and gritty. Trying to polish something that is already great doesn’t always make things better.
@Zennofobic5 ай бұрын
enjoyed both versions but I saw the Swedish one first and it still remains my favorite, I don't feel Fincher's version is better at all
@lawrencedroman5 ай бұрын
IMO the American version cant hold a candle to the Swedish version. If you want to see art - go to the museum or a gallery but… if you want to see a bad@$$ movie - then I highly recommend the original version.
@nileswright89155 ай бұрын
all of you idiots ALWAYS say, 'we are not going to look at the costs' ....... really?!? what an a-hole!!! :(
@lenoresmith80625 ай бұрын
Finchers version is excellent. The Swedish version has the atmosphere of the books. Therefore better. Also noonish rap ace exceptional
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Fincher's version is slick and polished, the original gritty and authentic. Rooney Mara did her best, but was no match for Noomi Rapace as Lisbeth, and I thought Daniel Craig just dialled in his performance.
The original version with Noomi Repace was far better in not only acting but performance. The thing that you like about the Fincher version is exactly the main thing about what was wrong with it. The film works best as it was intended, as Swedish Noir. I have a lot of experience with Swedish Noir. It is dark, not bright. It is dirty not a slick film. Noomi is far better in her performance than Rooney Mara. The Fincher version was so bad that they didn't do the sequels The Girl Who Kicked The Hornets Nest and the Girl Who Played With Fire. However all three of the Swedish films were made ans I saw all three
Swedish version is much better
Nope, Roomi isn’t in the remake. Swede version is miles better. Fact.
All the biased Swedes in the comments lol
Is there another movie like this? I have seen Girl in the Spiders Web, Ghost in a Shell, and Cyber Punk Anime on Netflix. What am I missing?
I disagree
Daniel Craig was wrong for this role. The Swedish characters are all so believable, Lisbeth most importantly so. No doubt Finchers is better directed and composed, but the Swedish film is better, more real.
The issue with this whole compression is that you’re basically comparing American cinematography and Swedish cinematography, not the movies themselves. American moves really love bombastic, eye popping shots, while many Swedish movies take it slowly and let the mood and atmosphere do the talking.
Finchers version is an insult to the characters as they were created in the books. There is so much information forming the characters in the books. My opinion
Noomi Rapace were perfect..
You like to state your sad little opinions as facts don’t you. It’s clear that being informed about the truth regarding the nasty little trite American rip off you like, has hurt your feelings so much that you need to repeatedly state nonsense to justify your low brow desires. A thousand times! Lol!!!(Who told you that?) A fact that only Swedish people prefer the original! Lol! (Seriously? And where is this fact written down outside of your tiny mind?) When someone lowers themselves so much that invented hyperbole is their only argument, it’s a bit sad, and also pleading to a non existent majority is yet another logical fallacy. You’re not in the majority, one movie was successful around the world, and the other failed even in America. It’s not the superbowl, America can’t call itself the world champions for playing a game nobody else cares about. In this case the game is stealing something good and spoiling it. Everything you’re saying is, at the end of the day, just… your… personal… opinion… about a Hollywood knock off… You have no class or taste, climb out of your sad little bubble and get yourself an education instead of choosing the lowest hanging fruit to enjoy.
Take the original version any day of the week. More raw,, more nerve and far far more convincing. I think the original Swedish version is grade A movie and the US (wannabe) a grade c (b movie) in my opinion. Just haven't got the touch and feeling as a masterpiece like the Swedish have
Outrageous to even compare the american and the swedish one. The swedish version was real, it was tense and doesn’t let go of you. One of the best trilogies produced, of all time.
10:12
I keep rewatching this every once in a while. Really well done.
I saw both versions and I alway thought that the Fincher version was better aesthetically speaking. But since it was a remake, it felt almost slanderous to say so. So I’m really glad I’m not alone in this case. I wish the cast and crew behind the remake would continue with the original trilogy sequels.
Fincher's version was not better. Sorry.
Swedish version is real. No Hollywood b.s.
No. Swedish version was better.
the swedish is cool fincher is pretence un cool
Producers are sleeping on this developing this culturally significant character. The books are outstanding. We need more cerebral icons, and theres a lot of us in the audience thats always looking for grown-up thrillers and protagonists.
I think both versions are interesting and worth watching. The Swedish version is various episodes long; thus, it has pros and cons. As a viewer, I wanted more length to extend the watching and the excitement. After many years, I recently (February 2024) watched like 6 episodes of the Swedish version and I loved it. The English version is fine, too, especially if you wish to cram the entire storyline within 2 hours.
Blomkvist Swedish isn't sleeping and bored, he's confused and tired by the sheer complexity of his investigation. That is only evident by reading the books.
Swedish all the way. I don't speak the language but it sounds beautiful and the suspense is amazing. When you read the biography of the authors life the Swedish version just fits socially.
The european version is 100% better than the American.. Its as if the director toned down the movie not to offend Americans. From the brutal bed scene (where we had no idea she had a camera) all the way thru to the basement scene these movies don't compare. The euro version showed his death pictures, Fincher wouldn't touch that w a 10' pole ! Plus when Martin Vanger crashed its very important the Lisbeth got to see him and NOT help plays well into the story. Why did Fincher change that? The best scene in the whole 3 part trilogy is when Mikael presents Harriet to Henrik. Again a mystery to the viewers! "How's your health.... might you have a heart attack..."Laughing Henrik says.... "I'm on so many needs thats not possible"...Then you can see swing of emotions....the raw essence of 35 lost years..... him recognizing Harriet. WELL IF HE COULD HAVE HAD A HEART ATTCK THAT WOULD HAVE DONE IT.
Nah, the Swede version is better imo
I prefer Noomi Rapace and Mikael Renquist.
This was just a perfect example of a European Director making a movie for their audience and an American Director making an Americanized version for their audience. As someone who was born in the United States of America but now lives full-time in Europe I can tell you that a lot of Swedish people would probably not have liked the American version. These are groups of people with different artistic sensibilities. I don’t necessarily think one of these movies is better than the other . One was tailored to their audience. I personally like the original but I also left the United States and live in Europe full-time so that says a lot about my personal taste and sensibilities.
This dude is wrong. The Swedish version is more European and therefore much much better.
I have seen both, they both have a different flavor. The American version is ok, but I find the Swedish version vivid, it allows the viewer to smell, taste the scene. Allows the viewer to calculate the information. If, you are looking at smash and grab then go to the American version, if your look for a movie that grip you by the throat, allowing you to hear your heart beating in your ears go with the Swedish version with English captions. Yes, I am American, and not every remake is better than the original. I think most of all you should NEVER talk down one version against another. That just shows you have no class.
Apart from the star actors I think the screenplay and dialogue were much better than the Swedish version, the exchange of dialogue between characters in fincher film have a subtle dramatisation but yet it was convincing done by the actors. The Swedish version was more realistic what people would do normally which is a bit “boring” but that’s the realistic way. Also the seating of mood, cinematography especially colour palette used in the Fincher movie, sets a tone for the interest. Also when did you ever get to see James Bond play an investigative journalist compared to a lethal spy? That was also one of the success of the film. The female lead for the film was also interesting and intriguing to watch.
But they aren't finished works - only the first part is. Execution of the entire vision matters. Fincher's version gets an incomplete mostly due to egos and money. Also, the flowers scene in the Swedish version is superior since there isn't a rather cheap false anticipation - the feeling of "I see this wall - what am I really looking at?" is more in line with the feelings of someone that is present in the scene. Fincher's intro of Lisbon is better. Sleep and bored seems subjective - on the train, maybe tired and stressed, but not overacting the "I'm thinking now" look? I will concede the rest. It's weird that so much happened in my life between those two movies, so they nearly felt like they were years apart.
The Swedish versions are better more edgy and more critical of these crimes
Since this film I’ve been obsessed with the soundtrack and Rooney Maras’ acting career. Sadly she hasn’t had a memorable performance since this film
i loved the american version with fincher directing- beautifully made and rooney mara was much closer to how the character was described in the book, anti- social angry, hanging her head down,.....with so many more expressions, and the wardrobe was so much better too! the swedish version salander was dressed like it was the 80's punk scene- the wardrobe budget mustve been very small in the swede version.
this is the rare case of both versions being as good as each other.
Yeah ... I love Fincher, but it's not. From the actors to the overall feel of the movies the swedish original cannot be beat. The american version can't caption it's authenticity, which is so crucial for the whole series. It may has better professional realisation, but the feeling is just not right. It is in it's essence still american and not scandinavian.
Why the 2009 film is better: Noomi Rapace
Dead on man dead on
Yank remakes of Euro films are consistently risible. Appalling taste shown by reviewer.
Swedish version way better.
Fincher COPIED many scenes that the original Swedish version created. Anyone can take a good product and, given enough money, improve it. It is creating those scenes that is the art. Also, nobody could improve on Noomi as Lisbeth or Michael Nyevist as Blomkvist. So real, so believable, so Swedish. Stieg Larsson, I believe, would have preferred the Swedish version.
Totally disagree, he just used something that existed and jumped on it. Your title and approach to this is unfair. The original is better.... period.
Just no. The copy is never better.
What bollocks. The first Swedish version was miles better. I’ve watched both a few times and the English speaking version was just made for lazy people who can’t be bothered to read sub-titles, I found it quite boring. The first Swedish version was wonderfully dark and gritty. Trying to polish something that is already great doesn’t always make things better.
enjoyed both versions but I saw the Swedish one first and it still remains my favorite, I don't feel Fincher's version is better at all
IMO the American version cant hold a candle to the Swedish version. If you want to see art - go to the museum or a gallery but… if you want to see a bad@$$ movie - then I highly recommend the original version.
all of you idiots ALWAYS say, 'we are not going to look at the costs' ....... really?!? what an a-hole!!! :(
Finchers version is excellent. The Swedish version has the atmosphere of the books. Therefore better. Also noonish rap ace exceptional