After all the hype with ruby's origins and everything else its a big disappointment
@bizphone866212 сағат бұрын
even he had to laugh at "let me tell you something"
@GraceTruth2913 сағат бұрын
This guy is a hero 😂❤
@neil4920Күн бұрын
I touched grass all series, and I'm glad I did.
@MrGreavesКүн бұрын
I refuse to believe you actually got offended by the lead of the show telling you to “touch grass”. But the lefties are apparently snowflakes.. lol
@neil492021 сағат бұрын
@@MrGreaves the actors and show runner has there only themselves to blame, its funny that DW is failing and the viewing figures proves that people have pissed off.
@MrGreaves14 сағат бұрын
@@neil4920 spoken like a true politician: you not only dodged my comment but lapped up some “facts” you’ve been fed elsewhere that are in no way substantial.
@neil4920Сағат бұрын
@MrGreaves got my facts from DrWhoTV. You keep shilling for this woke rubbish and enjoy consuming shit.
@Slinky_DegreeКүн бұрын
Let Mario talk 😂
@troll9447Күн бұрын
Whut whit whut😅😅😅😅
@Oscarzilla20042 күн бұрын
My favourite doctor
@604inthegame2 күн бұрын
As mentioned, beautifully done. The end is powerfull and thats whats real . You channel it and you get away from it. But with it, you lose contact or experience. The key to life is probably balance. Weird that as we become older we think we need excess , in all parts of life, money,food,love, alcohol, (illegal) dope are no exceptions. Thats why there are people who do heroin daily, go to work every day and even excell at their job. And that is in my opinion, quite an achievement. I state that there are worse things to try nowadays that scare me to death, mdma variants that make the body forget how to produce dopamine ever again, for one. It could be in a simple pill or cap. If i had kids, if they end up addicted, i would want knowledge to guide them, and experienced people to help him. And in reality the only way to get to that is people whove seen and done it. Open mindset and, opressing things that people have done and will keep doing into eternity, is not the way. I mean giving users 1000 euro fines, for using , so that dealers wont have customers to sell to, is the best way to fight a war on drugs thats already lost before it began. Really folks. So in every branch of life, especially places of power, people in charge, people who pass law and judgement, who affect everyones lives , that they would have experience in the matter they are about to pass judgement on in one way or another. To say drugs are bad, the end ; is one of the worst things people can do. Again evidence of closing the mind so you dont walk outside the lines. They said weed got illegal when napoleons troops ran out of cheap wine, they started smoking weed, they didnt want to fight anymore, or with the invention of acid same, but much more, the 8 groups of mind enhancing drugs maybe can open doors, that they are afraid to go in, they dont want us to go in either, because they are afraid that theres more to reality than we see. Quote from lsd- hallucinogen -simon posford . Is a quote again from a scientist in the 60s i think. And especially, as a collective we experience more. The ancients did this as a collective. Those 8 groups should not be labeled drugs, but medicine. And no all or nothing mindset, but knowledge and experience. I think i digressed :-), love the movies and sync done here, thanks!
@qvcybe3 күн бұрын
the only thing i like about empire of death was how sutek looked ( also i did find how funny it looks when sutek was dragged along despite how cheep it feels ) besides that everything kind of just felt meh over all but the main issue is how cheep the ending feels there were parts that felt good besides those points
@MrGreavesКүн бұрын
Yeah I didn’t mind his design. I do prefer his more humanoid design though - the mask will never be topped!
@qvcybeКүн бұрын
@@MrGreaves i think his dog design should have been saved till closer to the end as it would have made the rope thing not feel as cheep well i think it feels a bit cheep but there are alot of small things i like about the ep the designs and the time window but the pace feels a bit rushed over all
@blackphoenix773 күн бұрын
Legend of Ruby Sunday was good, but Empire of Death dropped the ball big time. I'm with you; it killed my excitement for upcoming episodes. Legend of Ruby Sunday: 7 Empire of Death: 1 RTD needs to go; he never should have come back. I'm hoping he just becomes a producer after next season and steps down from being showrunner.
@MrGreavesКүн бұрын
Damn, a 1/10? Honestly I don’t blame you though. I’m with you about RTD. I have a lot of love and nostalgia for his first run and I was somewhat excited to see him coming back.. but I think he honestly lacks respect for the fans of the show and we need some fresh ideas for the series anyway. Since 2005, it’s just been RTD, Moffat and Chibnall. They’ve all been writing for the show for a loooong time so we’ve not had the chance to hear many new voices. It’s high-time we had a new batch of writers. New perspectives and concepts and characters. And for the love of God, take us back to sci-fi!
@hagaimartin6043 күн бұрын
New meme "LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING!"
@PSDC3 күн бұрын
absurd.....a piece of rope hold a being that can vanish and appear at will. Piss poor storyline
@jaredfaulkner22023 күн бұрын
June 2024…. Ready for the next BOND!! Praying the franchise stays this good
@LtAlguien3 күн бұрын
Despise the plot holes and the bad resolutions, I think the writer having a shit eating grin and trying to gaslight the audience saying "No, Ruby and her mom were special because you through they were special on X/twitter/Tumblr/Whatever" ...no? The fanbase through they were special BECAUSE they show said so, is not just bad writing, is bad writing in bad faith and calling the audience idiots to their faces. So I am suppose to believe the GOD OF DEATH, who has KILLED THE UNIVERSE was terrified over a mother abandoning her daughter? Well, i guess I would also confused over said teenager mom wearing the REAPER'S CLOTHES and POINTING DRAMATICALLY AT A STREET SIGN TO NO ONE too but if she is a normal human, she died with the rest, so...what? Sutekh literally lost due to bad writing, I feel bad for Gabriel Woolf being dragged at his 91 years old to voice such disappointment. And writers need to know the higher the stakes, ironically, the less stakes there is, because people will realize the only solution is a reset button, this is why small scale is actually more dramatic, like Midnight...I would even go as far as said the Impossible Planet/The Beast did the plot way better about an unstoppable evil god/demon who will destroy the universe by having the plot revolving about it trying to escape instead of "It has manifested, killed all the people and then dragged like a bad dog around the timestream to reset all reality" And to go back to the reveal of Ruby's mom being just a teenager pregnancy...I think Meet the Robinsons (Yes, the disney one) did it better by keeping the reasons a mystery instead of "oh yeah, you were just a unwanted baby lol" Anyway rant over Edit: Rant not over, what the .... was that "cultural appropriation" line? Why did that line exist? Who through it was a good idea? What was trying to achieve? Literally what was the point of that line? Somebody please try to make it sense!
@MrGreavesКүн бұрын
Yet again, a comment has hit the nail on the head. Agree with everything here. I really wish that RTD would realise that the finale doesn’t have to be on modern day. His best finale was Bad Wolf/Parting of The Ways for me. The finale shouldn’t have to be some crazy destruction of our world for us to feel any emotions in the end… it just needs to be a high-stakes story that challenges the main characters and pays off their storyline. World Enough and Time / The Doctor Falls, for example. Low-scale. It’s on a spaceship we have had no previous encounter with. But it’s high stakes because it proves to be the threat that undoes our main characters. There’s no other hook than “the main characters are all screwed” and it works so well! And yeah.. You and loads of other people found issue with the cultural appropriation line. I did too. I think RTD is desperate to get brownie points from the audience by being as “progressive” as possible. But in my opinion, he’s not very progressive at all.. and you can kinda tell by how much he forces it.
@THEGHETTOGEEK203 күн бұрын
I just finished it 3 minutes ago and went straight to KZread to see if anyone else thought this was horrible
@MrGreaves3 күн бұрын
This is exactly what I do with stuff I love / hate 😂 sorry to hear you didn’t enjoy it.
@vincentalexander46033 күн бұрын
For the 2nd doctor of the 3rd reboot of the series dubbed Doctor Boo Who. I have nothing good to say about this season other than it had nice animation. Jodie Whittaker had bigger nuts than this doctor. Hell Donna Noble's daughterrr, Rose had bigger balls than Ncuti Gatwa doctor. I wont defend anything about this hot trash lol. Oh and can we point out the fact that Ncuti got his companion killed over some ass. LIKE Bruh!!!!!
@BlackMetalTimes4 күн бұрын
The whole Sutekh reveal/storyline feels like it should have happened two seasons from now. It just feels like so much of the story was removed, or rearranged. And what was kept was already really rushed. It's also funny to consider the Sutekh, the destroyer of all life, was.defeated.because he couldn't unclip himself from a rope.
@MrGreaves3 күн бұрын
Yes! I was meant to say something in the video about how this should’ve been the BIG finale of the era, with far more stakes and deaths and emotional weight. Sutekh being the random villain you bring back for a quick and easy finale is such a bad move.
@BraveLittlePixel4 күн бұрын
I will say - as a disappointment to the ending being too upbeat, and a happy ending with no downsides, the whole season was based on Fairytale's and life (i.e. each episode documenting birth to life (space babies - teenagers on social media - death)) but all Fairytale's have a happy ever after - and I'm using head-canon to suggest that this universe split or Toymaster implementation has shifted this dynamic to make it different to the realities we've experienced in previous Doctor's adventures.
@lonelystarslibrary93264 күн бұрын
What a God of Gods that was.
@vorebiz4 күн бұрын
Sutekh's redesign was really poor. What part of the ideas room saw the poorly executed Jackal-ish head at the end of Pyramids and said "yes what we need to do is make Sutekh a giant furry who is clinging onto the Tardis"? It's absolute nonsense. Just redesign the iconic costume and make him a humanoid presence in that suit. Or better still save Sutekh for a better script and make this a different antagonist. For all the quality of characterisation he could have just been a giant malicious alien dog-like creature without the Sutekh name. They got the character so wrong anyway that he may as well not have been Sutekh at all?
@matthewRest4 күн бұрын
Sigh... I hate to say it but yes I didn't much enjoy EOD. I watched LORS for the first time in the cinema, spending the week before avoiding spoilers. Although the Sutekh reveal meant nothing to me in terms of who the character was, it was a great reveal and I was pumped. I think LORS is a great episode that i thoroughly enjoyed. EOD death though, was a whole lot of nothing with so much that made little sense and was hella contradictory. However, for me, this season has been thoroughly enjoyable and a marked improvement over the last few years. Five of the eight episodes are great, a couple of alright episodes and just the one low point. Similarly to how i really don't like Last of the Time Lords and the resolution to Journeys End, EOD doesn't detract from my overall enjoyment of the respective series/season.
@MrGreaves3 күн бұрын
Glad to hear you enjoyed the season overall! I will say that it’s been a great season for getting lots of people back on board with the show. Also glad to hear that you enjoyed TLORS. Shame about Empire of Death though. Here’s hoping the next finale packs more of a punch!
@jaimesandoval19414 күн бұрын
crazy to watch this after the finale and see how the most promising moments of these episodes amounted to nothing in the finale 😭
@MrGreaves3 күн бұрын
… 😔😔😔
@AgustinVzK4 күн бұрын
100% ❤
@Jamie_Pritchard4 күн бұрын
Are we all starting to remember exactly why we celebrated when RTD left the show the first time? This went beyond disappointing and reached a realm of malicious destruction. Fair enough, RTD wants to make the show a vehicle for his ideology going forward. He's the showrunner and that's his prerogative and it's easily avoided by simply not watching. However, he is not content with just this. He also feels that he needs to retcon the classic show and episodes written by people RTD can't even hope to approach in terms of talent. That's simply unforgivable. As far as I am concerned the Doctor had twelve regenerations and that was the end of it. Nothing that came after counts
@lonelystarslibrary93264 күн бұрын
We stan Capaldi ending enjoyers
@MrGreavesКүн бұрын
I’m glad to see someone actually mature about disagreeing with the writer’s ideology. Too often do I see people crying about it as if they can’t just, as you said, stop watching lol. My biggest issue with his era isn’t this.. but I will say it seems like he’s constantly trying to score brownie points by virtue signalling. Especially with lines like “cultural appropriation” and the terrible characterisation of Rose Noble, the show’s first BIG trans character. As much as I’ve liked - and even loved - a few episodes of this new run.. I must admit, I haven’t loved the show as a whole since Capaldi.
@guinotrool4 күн бұрын
it was not a normal rope, it was a super molecular rope xD
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
And he’s the God of all Gods who has both the powers of mind control and the ability to literally bring death wherever he goes.
@johnpriest2424 күн бұрын
Yeah, the whole "Bad Doggie" thing, wasn't so great...
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
😂
@jaceyray4 күн бұрын
Suetech is not an anagram, it's a portmanteau.
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
You must be fun at parties. Plus I wasn’t even on about “Suetech”. I was talking about “Sutech” morphing into “Sutekh”. You can hear me even verbally spell out “The S and U from Susan and the Tech part of Technology”. So your “clever” moment wasn’t really as clever as you were hoping I’m afraid.
@bloodyuk84524 күн бұрын
Yes! Thank you for pointing out how 73 Yards was pointless by the end of it. I didn't see anyone else talking about it, I started to think that I'm the odd ball here, so thank you for that. IANA (sorry)
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
You Are Not Alone after all ;P Yeah, I liked the episode mostly but it didn't pay off to anything at all, did it? It would've been unsatisfying in a regular season of Who, but especially in a compact, 8-episode season? Yikes. Each episode needs to be slightly more important in my opinion. Next season, hopefully they get it right.
@jeremythomaswebb14852 күн бұрын
@@MrGreavesSeries 7b was a 8 episode run and that felt like a much more smoother run to this. I feel like I get the Doctor and Clara's dynamic by the end of that run of stories. I know series 7 may not be high on some people's list but it's a personal favorite of mine where you feel the fun of bouncing around time and space.
@08caitylynn4 күн бұрын
I can’t disagree for the most part. I actually really liked The Legend. But I thought that it was leading up to a massive climax, but I just got metaphorically blue balled instead. I can accept that some stuff doesn’t make sense. It’s timey wimey. That’s fine. But the finale was such a mid season style episode. Legend was a better finale than the actual finale. My fiance actually got into the season, and he’s never been a DW fan. So he was excited for the last episode too, and we both just sat there afterwards quietly, wondering what the hell just happened, because it was so…. easy…
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
Ah God that's the worst thing... one of my best friends has never been into Doctor Who but wanted to watch the new season because he saw my reviews, and I've kinda got to steer him away from it now because I know he hates fantasy stuff and he'll definitely hate the finale lol. It's kinda embarrassing trying to get new people on board when the show is shooting itself in the foot like this. We should both get our respective parties to start back at Series 1 with Eccleston lol. Maybe that'll help.
@jeremythomaswebb14852 күн бұрын
@@MrGreavesSeries 1 2005 still remains as one of the go to seasons to introduce new fans to Doctor Who. Along with Series 5 for example. Solid jumping on point there too.
@GrimmSmile4 күн бұрын
This was such a good vid honestly. No BS or constant repetitive jabbing, just straight up thoughts of how you felt about the episodes and nice pacing too. I too was disappointed with the finale and a lot of it just didn't make sense. It really is just lazy writing. Even if moff(or is it RTD? I always get confused if they are both working on this or if one of them is the main writer but you get what I mean) has some kind of bigger reveal next season about ruby not being so normal, it's just dis-interesting to me at this point. I will still go ahead and continue to watch dr who though, As I basically feel like "welp, I have come this far, I might as well see what else happens, even if it's disappointing". I will say tho, I have very low expectations for the next season.
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
Thank you, I really appreciate the comment. Glad to know you thought so and so about my video <3 Yeah I must say I'm very bored with Ruby. I feel like I've waited too long for her character to have anything of worth and her storyline went down the drain fast! But much like you, even though my expectations are low, I will still be watching the next season. After all, it's not the end of the world - I've got plenty of Doctor Who books to read and audio dramas to listen to!
@GrimmSmile4 күн бұрын
@@MrGreaves you're welcome~ Yeah, I know technically it's a bad practice to keep engaging in content, since most people will make the argument that nothing will change if people keep eating it up but at the same time, I think this season has gotten quite a low amount of people watching already, So I am hoping that they make a better story-line for next season based on the decrease of viewership. Anyways tho, I would also like to add that I love the funny moments in your vid lmao. The part about the rope around sutekh and the part where you insert a clip of deadpool, absolutely fantastic LOL.
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
@@GrimmSmile Here’s hoping! Not sure how much the viewership has decreased but I imagine this season probably lost some people, even though overall ratings are pretty good. Either way, I hope it’s been made clear that stories for the sake of online content aren’t good. And thank you! I appreciate it. While I’m more fond of serious criticism, I try and keep stuff as light as I can :P glad it pays off!
@OnTheHorizon-4 күн бұрын
I agree with everything u said but……”Beatles shitty music”……. *tread carefully* 🫨 (their music is great 🤧🤧)
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
AHAHAHA glad someone finally noticed that joke
@captainawesome07114 күн бұрын
It was a bit disappointing, but no where as bad as the cliffhanger between Ascension of the Cybermen and Timeless Children. Upon further rewatches, I can see what RTD was going for but it definitely relies on emotion more than logic. I feel like he needed to do another draft on the episode, or that it was written without reading the previous one. Like “Dust of Death” is the cheesiest thing I’ve ever head, and they literally said “Gift of Death” in the previous episode. That’s a minor detail in a storyline with some massive holes, but it just proves my point about the two parts feeling out of joint
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
Oh God don't remind me of The Timeless Children please! Honestly, I didn't even feel the emotion in this one. It felt devoid of anything substantial for me. Just RTD aiming at the sky but barely being able to jump out of the trench. And yes, both episodes feel very disjointed! The previously trailer even alters footage from The Legend of Ruby Sunday! Which is strange..
@captainawesome07114 күн бұрын
@@MrGreaves really? What footage was altered?
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
@@captainawesome0711 I think it was Possessed Susan’s cliffhanger line. It’s a very very minor change but still a very odd and unnecessary one.
@captainawesome07114 күн бұрын
@@MrGreaves is it Dust of Death vs Gift of Death?
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
@@captainawesome0711 no it’s actually “I bring Sutekh’s gift of death for you and all of this tiny, vile, incessant universe” as opposed to it being “for you and all your tiny, vile..” in the previous episode.
@BradyPires74 күн бұрын
the whole series was awful and should have been called the crying dr. dr who ended half way through matt smith at best but mainly after david tennant, russell t davies should stop and. this show has passed its sell by date, awful
@MichaelPhillipsatGreyOwlStudio4 күн бұрын
Excellent analysis! Also, how does just dragging Sutekh through the time vortex force him to use his powers? The stupidity of death + death=life notwithstanding, it makes no sense. He's so powerful, yet so weak. The best scene with the nameless woman and the baby felt very like something Moffat would write. So much so that I wondered if he actually had.
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
Yeah, the whole defeat of Sutekh had like no logic behind it. And you're right, the spoon lady scene was very Moffat-y. Kind of "fairytale sad", if that makes sense? But then again, RTD is trying to mimic Moffat's fairytale Doctor Who style so idk. Either way, thank you for your kind words <3
@MichaelPhillipsatGreyOwlStudio4 күн бұрын
@@MrGreaves You're quite welcome. It seems to me that RTD has always been compositing other people's styles from the beginning. Now, he's just adding Moffat and Chibnall to the mix.
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
@@MichaelPhillipsatGreyOwlStudio I don’t think that’s necessary a bad thing, but it’s clear that he’s providing a lot of style over substance here. As I’ll always argue, originality is pretty much impossible. Of course you’ll have influences, but you need to add your own importance and style and substance and dynamics, blah blah blah. RTD isn’t really doing that right now.
@nathxn054 күн бұрын
most disappointing is a stretch imo. nothing will ever reach the lows of the s6 finale for me
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
Fair enough, I support that. For me, I was only like 6 when the Series 6 finale aired so I wasn't able to be disappointed by it really. And by the time I'd grown up a bit, I'd seen it so much (and everything that comes after) that it would no longer be disappointing. Just a bad episode in hindsight. This is the first time I've felt properly let down by a finale. Maybe except for Series 12? But that just angered me more than anything.
@swingmahamakd4 күн бұрын
First off, great video! Gave great points and supporting arguments. My main issue with the season was the writing for Ncuti. I thought he played a great doctor, but the writing really put him in a hole. Boom was the only episode he actually got to be brilliant. I thought they would really do something with him in the finale, or give him some character growth like most seasons do, but instead of being brilliant, it was kinda just….. well here’s a random solution. And last thing……. If he could’ve just whistled the tardis from him….. how did Sutekh stay on it so long and why didn’t he do that in the first place instead of a whole Memory Tardis? I enjoyed the season, but the finale just made everything in retrospect, blah.
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
Thank you! I actually agree with this. Ncuti is ace but his character is a bit all over the place. Hoping some consistency or at least acknowledged flaws get brought up soon. And yeah, the whistle was cheap lol
@jasongreen68264 күн бұрын
You think 73 yards was pointless?💀 that was one of the best episodes of dr who I’ve ever seen, maybe the point is to watch a show and enjoy it 😂
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
Your opinion is not the blueprint for everyone. I’m allowed to consume media how I do, and you’re allowed to consume it how you do. I have no issue with you enjoying the episode. And fyi, if you spent a minute to check my review of 73 Yards.. I literally DID enjoy the episode. I just said in hindsight it is pointless because it provided absolutely nothing. No character growth, no plot development, no solutions/answers to its mysteries… Nada. Just that Welsh bloke reappearing in the finale, albeit talking about something completely different to what he actually was in 73 Yards.
@flightlesslord26884 күн бұрын
Bro doesnt know what a red herring is. Why is everyone just accepting the ending as is when its obvious its gonna be a twist, hence why its absolutely disappointing, plot hole ridden, makes 0 sense, and fucking Mrs Flood basically tells us to just ignore it. Are Doctor Who fans just expecting shit writing or are we just dumb?
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
As I answered in a previous comment to you, in which you said the same thing, the Ruby’s mum reveal is not a red herring. It is presented as a definitive answer with definitive proof supporting it. And if it is a red herring, I will criticise it for being bad writing. Because a red herring should not be presented as an answer. It should be presented as a misleading factor that people think will LEAD to an answer. Maybe you don’t know what a red herring is 🤔 Also, your basis for it being a red herring is that it makes 0 sense when there are plenty of other things in this finale that make 0 sense and are in no way even part of a mystery. Maybe you just need to accept that this finale isn’t as well-written as you think. If you enjoyed it, that’s fine! I don’t want to take that away from you. I’m glad you had fun with it. But being hostile towards other people’s critiques and calling me dumb for having a different point of view than you.. is not on.
@MizziProductions4 күн бұрын
Creased at the mention of Adam Mitchell. 🤣🤣 Kate seems to just employ anyone at UNIT. There are too many people working there, too many faces and names to remember no memorable acting or lines, and a generally boring arrangement of actors. I didn’t feel anything when Kate and her colleagues were reduced to dust. How can I? There’s no personality, just the reciting of lines. Ruby’s storyline is equally as boring, and she’s just not an interesting character. Her mother was a 15-year-old human in a cloak with the hands of a 60-year-old man. More to the point, a God wouldn’t care about a random nurse who likes coffee. Hell, Ruby didn’t even seem to care when her own mother was reduced to dust! Also, I hate the CGI Sutekh. I thought Sutekh was a horse at first. He just recites ominous lines while his minions stand around menacingly, and he’s… defeated with a dog lead? I don’t like Ncuti’s Doctor either. I did wonder if this iteration of the Doctor goes through stages of disassociation because he seems to cry over the wrong things… Susan? 🤔 His ‘best friend’ (scraping the barrel a bit if Ruby’s his bestie) leaving the TARDIS? 🤔 A random racist on an alien world? 😩😥 A love interest he’d only known for an hour? 😭😡
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
Again, I agree with pretty much all of this. Seems a lot of the fanbase is actually siding with each other on this one, which is refreshing. I’m most angry about Ruby and Sutekh. Just absolutely wasted both of them. More so Sutekh. Why even bring him back if there’s no good story to tell with him? Jesus man… And yeah, I’m very concerned about children working at UNIT lol. Rose especially. At least Morris is a super-genius. What does she bring to the table?
@lepterfirefall4 күн бұрын
Well...what a pile of pants that was. Plot holes so big you could drive a double decker bus through. Sutehk saying rubys secret was a bigger threat than the timelord...only for her to be just a normal person? What the absolute flipping heck was all that about? You telling me the doctor couldn't find a spoon or a peice of metal anywhere but only from a random woman? Ruby making snow everywhere...WHY....she not just normal after all? why did meistro panic over her song of she was just normal? why was rubys mum wearing a huge robe? who was supposed to see her pointing? if it's the doctor, why would rubys mum care to stop and point just to tell him a name that would mean nothing to him? why did ruby make it snow everywhere if it was a memory of an event she would probablyexperiencd when she was DAYS OLD! TIME IS NOT A MEMORY RUSSEL!! why did sutehk look like a fiberglass dog on the flashback screen yet immediately looked like scoobydoo when he attatched himself to the tardis? Are we really supposed to believe sutehk was there when the tardis splintered at frontios? What about the big bang reset? was stupid!!! Just a stupid reset button. How completely LAME. Don't get me started on the cultural appropriation quip. Egyptian culture was based on tbe osirans..not stolen by sutehk. Sutehk was totally wasted. That ending was abysmal! So now death brings life? Really? It reversed every death? Why? Sutehk lived for centuries sitting on top of the tardis in the vortex, but now he is destroyed by exposure to it? Russel apparently can't write for toffee anymore and i have to say I only enjoyed a single episode this series....last week's. Russel failed to end on a high and fumbled the ball. Rubbish episode ending a rubbish season. This ending could have been so different...My speculation. Go back to star beast. At the end of the episode, Donna spills a drink on the console sending the tardis to the end of the universe where the walls of reality are thin. After the crash on the ship in episode 2, the tardis groans and then runs off. Imagine if sutehk waa the cause of the crash and the tardis reacting. Sutehk in his time tunnel sees the tardis through the thin walls and latches on. End of episode...the tardis leaves but the tardis is still reacting causing it to crash in the tree where sutehk sees the lady and using his increased powers, is able to make echos of her everywhere the tardis will go. So every episode after we see more Susan's. This ultimately leads to unit where he springs his trap. He doesn't have to be hanging on the tardis since pyramids. He could have been beaten by the doctor going back to the tunnel and casting sutehk off back to his eventual demise. Susan could then have faded away rather than joining unit! Undoing sutehks work? Maybe returning sutehk to the point where he left the tunnel would stop the susans being made, undoing her dust of doom! Maybe have horus return through ruby giving her arc some meaning? Anything but what we had. That solves all of the plot holes and makes the season a self enclosed arc. You can see the fingerprints of this in the story. Of course this is just my head canon bit makes more sense in universe than russels awful version!
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
I had a similar idea that Sutekh latching onto the TARDIS in WBY would be a better story. Especially since he gets sent to the end of his existence in Pyramids, right? So it makes sense he could discover the TARDIS at the edge of the universe. Where he was banished? I agree with everything you’ve said here. Maybe you should start writing my reviews for me 😅 Except for enjoying other episodes! I actually did but I’ll say the season overall was underwhelming.
@timelesschronicles21824 күн бұрын
I would add another FU to RTD with regards to his removing what I consider to be one of the most emotional impacts in the history of the show, namely Donna's tragic exit. Not only did he remove that, he did it in a stupid and unsatisfying way.
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
Oooooh believe me.. I have a lot to say about that. Journey’s End is retroactively ruined for me because I just can’t buy the emotion behind it anymore, which is the only thing that stopped it feeling like a lazy deus ex machina.
@fergal009Күн бұрын
@@MrGreavesDavis ex machina
@timelesschronicles21824 күн бұрын
I've been a fan of the show for 45+ years and Empire of Death is the worst episode of Doctor Who I've ever watched, listened to, or read. I was viscerally angry by the end at how phenomenally stupid and insulting it was. Getting through the last 10-15 minutes was a chore and afterwards, my son and I went on a 15 minute rant over how pissed off we both were at this episode. I despise the temporal reset button and hearing RTD's writing philosophy that his scripts are there as click-bait really makes me angry as well. WTF? That is incredibly disrespectful to the fans and to a show that has existed in multiple formats for 60 years, with countless strong, traditional stories, and that he himself helped to revive. FU RTD.
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
WOW. That’s quite the statement. I do understand your frustration though. I could ramble for days about how much of a letdown and a mess this episode was. And yeah, RTD’s philosophy of writing feels very disrespectful and offensive - especially as an aspiring writer who was only inspired to do so BECAUSE of Doctor Who. It feels like I’ve been betrayed. I’ve spent years learning the importance of storytelling, characters, pacing, dialogue, formatting, killing your darlings, subtext, blah blah blah… and then this guy comes in, says internet content is more important than the actual narrative, and gets a huge pay check for it! When I have to work incredibly hard to get any projects made and passed off.
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
I don’t want to sound all “poor me” either. That’s not the point. It’s a struggle shared by every aspiring writer. It’s just a giant middle finger to ALL OF US that my biggest inspiration has so easily written off all of these tricky elements because of his status.
@timelesschronicles21824 күн бұрын
@@MrGreaves I, too, am an aspiring writer. One of the things I've learned is that the rules of writing are there to be broken--but only if doing so serves to strengthen your story. That said, sacrificing strong narrative for internet click-baits is NOT something you should be doing in this sort of storytelling.
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
@@timelesschronicles2182 They always say, write the story you want to write. Feels like RTD wrote the story that would get him popular on tv for a bit and that's it. You can always tell when art is just a job rather than a passion.
@Knaveofspades64 күн бұрын
There is nothing emotionally stable or mature about this Doctor. He behaves like a wet jibbering fliberty jibbert. He is no longer the Hero. SpaceBabies - he saved the villain, NanE saved the babies. DevilsChord- Beatles save the Day Boom- AI saves the day 73 irks - no one dies DotsEtc - They all die ( off camera at the end) Rogue - Doctor is incompetent again, his post twirk flirt nearly gets ruby killed and Rogue saves the day. It felt to me that loads was cut from this series- is why the Docs U Turn on Bogeyman makes no sense. This new Doctor is not the Doctor. Great review BTW 👏
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
Damn, I can feel the anger behind the keyboard haha. I’d argue that the Doctor technically does save the day in Boom and Dot & Bubble (he did all he could to save them with the resources he had) and definitely in the Xmas episode… but I do know what you mean overall. Something feels a little off I suppose. But it’s not bugging me massively yet. Here’s hoping Season 2 improves!
@gladiator6520044 күн бұрын
I too found it jarring how Roger ap Gwilliam became PM and introduced compulsory DNA if we are all dead already.
@lepterfirefall4 күн бұрын
I figured that all the dusting happened simultaneously at every point where the tardis had landed. So the events on 2024 had no bearing on 2046 as it was happening in that individual moment. But yeah...they needed to actually reference this info in the yards episode. One line...that's all that was needed.
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
I know this is what the episode says, but thinking about it.. it makes no sense with how the show actually works. Like.. as an example, let’s look at Adelaide Brooke. Her death is a fixed point in time, but said fixed point was temporarily erased in The Devil’s Chord, for example, when Maestro destroyed the world. A fixed point can be re-written if previous events render it impossible to happen. So many episodes of the show tackle the idea that the Earth can be destroyed in our past, thus eliminating future fixed points. I know the Doctor says that 2046 is a fixed point because he landed there.. but if the whole universe was destroyed in 2024, or 2005, or 1066, or 50AD.. then 2046 can’t exist. Inconsistent logic. And yes, we definitely, definitely needed a line about DNA sampling in 73 Yards.
@AzguardMike4 күн бұрын
whole seasons been a let down sadly.
@gladiator6520044 күн бұрын
Love how you open your video by making precisely the point that drove me nuts. Why would UNIT busy themselves with Ruby's mother (!) when they are terrified of the Susan Triad thing.
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
The story was just so rushed into. Wouldn’t have hurt to cut out some of the unnecessary things like the granddaughter stuff and the spoon quest, and replace them with reasons for the plot to happen and emotional character beats. Really wish we had the opening montage that actually drives the Doctor to visit UNIT in the first place. It’s just so random lol. And yeah.. again, feels like the Doctor is just a bad friend for waiting so long to investigate Ruby’s mother. Couldn’t he have just parked further down the street in The Church on Ruby Road and seen her anyway?
@flightlesslord26884 күн бұрын
@@MrGreaves dude, this series has been well written, RTD has said Ruby is important next series, and is you know, fucking in it. I dont get why everyone is just accepting this ending as is and cant seem to comprehend what a red herring is. Bloody song in the show said 'theres always a twist at the end'. And you know Mrs Flood's entire last scene.
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
@@flightlesslord2688 I’m glad you enjoyed it. I wish I did. And I disagree. The reveal about Ruby’s mum is not a red herring, or at least it isn’t presented as one. A red herring is a misleading element of a mystery. Louise Miller and the lamppost are presented as definitive answers. Especially because the Doctor confidently explains how her importance was applied by everybody who was interested in finding her, and Russell has also stated this reveal was his response to the Star Wars Sequels. Ruby may be important next season, but I doubt anything about her is going to change. We’ll see, but I doubt it. And either way, none of this is relevant to my other criticisms of the finale.
@robbycooper67874 күн бұрын
19:43 is defeated via the strangest thing I’ve seen a fictional parent do, dragging em around to hard
@robbycooper67874 күн бұрын
17:50 the only consequences are that everyone he met in a parallel universe has had their planet killed but that’s never acknowledged.
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
I was gonna say like.. Rose Tyler should be dead right? 😂
@MSThalamus-gj9oi4 күн бұрын
TBH, I teared up when Kate died. I wasn't expecting that. That could have been an extremely impactful moment. But then, three seconds later, Ruby's mother and grandmother were taken out and I realised we were just waiting 35 minutes for the magic reset button. When will writers realise that the magic reset button will never be a satisfying way to end a series? It just leaves people wondering why they bothered to watch in the first place.
@MrGreaves4 күн бұрын
Yeah it’s a huge shame. There could’ve been some genuine emotion here but it’s all just one big “and then it never happened and they all lived happily ever after.” Hope RTD fixes this mistake for next season but.. I doubt it.
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After all the hype with ruby's origins and everything else its a big disappointment
even he had to laugh at "let me tell you something"
This guy is a hero 😂❤
I touched grass all series, and I'm glad I did.
I refuse to believe you actually got offended by the lead of the show telling you to “touch grass”. But the lefties are apparently snowflakes.. lol
@@MrGreaves the actors and show runner has there only themselves to blame, its funny that DW is failing and the viewing figures proves that people have pissed off.
@@neil4920 spoken like a true politician: you not only dodged my comment but lapped up some “facts” you’ve been fed elsewhere that are in no way substantial.
@MrGreaves got my facts from DrWhoTV. You keep shilling for this woke rubbish and enjoy consuming shit.
Let Mario talk 😂
Whut whit whut😅😅😅😅
My favourite doctor
As mentioned, beautifully done. The end is powerfull and thats whats real . You channel it and you get away from it. But with it, you lose contact or experience. The key to life is probably balance. Weird that as we become older we think we need excess , in all parts of life, money,food,love, alcohol, (illegal) dope are no exceptions. Thats why there are people who do heroin daily, go to work every day and even excell at their job. And that is in my opinion, quite an achievement. I state that there are worse things to try nowadays that scare me to death, mdma variants that make the body forget how to produce dopamine ever again, for one. It could be in a simple pill or cap. If i had kids, if they end up addicted, i would want knowledge to guide them, and experienced people to help him. And in reality the only way to get to that is people whove seen and done it. Open mindset and, opressing things that people have done and will keep doing into eternity, is not the way. I mean giving users 1000 euro fines, for using , so that dealers wont have customers to sell to, is the best way to fight a war on drugs thats already lost before it began. Really folks. So in every branch of life, especially places of power, people in charge, people who pass law and judgement, who affect everyones lives , that they would have experience in the matter they are about to pass judgement on in one way or another. To say drugs are bad, the end ; is one of the worst things people can do. Again evidence of closing the mind so you dont walk outside the lines. They said weed got illegal when napoleons troops ran out of cheap wine, they started smoking weed, they didnt want to fight anymore, or with the invention of acid same, but much more, the 8 groups of mind enhancing drugs maybe can open doors, that they are afraid to go in, they dont want us to go in either, because they are afraid that theres more to reality than we see. Quote from lsd- hallucinogen -simon posford . Is a quote again from a scientist in the 60s i think. And especially, as a collective we experience more. The ancients did this as a collective. Those 8 groups should not be labeled drugs, but medicine. And no all or nothing mindset, but knowledge and experience. I think i digressed :-), love the movies and sync done here, thanks!
the only thing i like about empire of death was how sutek looked ( also i did find how funny it looks when sutek was dragged along despite how cheep it feels ) besides that everything kind of just felt meh over all but the main issue is how cheep the ending feels there were parts that felt good besides those points
Yeah I didn’t mind his design. I do prefer his more humanoid design though - the mask will never be topped!
@@MrGreaves i think his dog design should have been saved till closer to the end as it would have made the rope thing not feel as cheep well i think it feels a bit cheep but there are alot of small things i like about the ep the designs and the time window but the pace feels a bit rushed over all
Legend of Ruby Sunday was good, but Empire of Death dropped the ball big time. I'm with you; it killed my excitement for upcoming episodes. Legend of Ruby Sunday: 7 Empire of Death: 1 RTD needs to go; he never should have come back. I'm hoping he just becomes a producer after next season and steps down from being showrunner.
Damn, a 1/10? Honestly I don’t blame you though. I’m with you about RTD. I have a lot of love and nostalgia for his first run and I was somewhat excited to see him coming back.. but I think he honestly lacks respect for the fans of the show and we need some fresh ideas for the series anyway. Since 2005, it’s just been RTD, Moffat and Chibnall. They’ve all been writing for the show for a loooong time so we’ve not had the chance to hear many new voices. It’s high-time we had a new batch of writers. New perspectives and concepts and characters. And for the love of God, take us back to sci-fi!
New meme "LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING!"
absurd.....a piece of rope hold a being that can vanish and appear at will. Piss poor storyline
June 2024…. Ready for the next BOND!! Praying the franchise stays this good
Despise the plot holes and the bad resolutions, I think the writer having a shit eating grin and trying to gaslight the audience saying "No, Ruby and her mom were special because you through they were special on X/twitter/Tumblr/Whatever" ...no? The fanbase through they were special BECAUSE they show said so, is not just bad writing, is bad writing in bad faith and calling the audience idiots to their faces. So I am suppose to believe the GOD OF DEATH, who has KILLED THE UNIVERSE was terrified over a mother abandoning her daughter? Well, i guess I would also confused over said teenager mom wearing the REAPER'S CLOTHES and POINTING DRAMATICALLY AT A STREET SIGN TO NO ONE too but if she is a normal human, she died with the rest, so...what? Sutekh literally lost due to bad writing, I feel bad for Gabriel Woolf being dragged at his 91 years old to voice such disappointment. And writers need to know the higher the stakes, ironically, the less stakes there is, because people will realize the only solution is a reset button, this is why small scale is actually more dramatic, like Midnight...I would even go as far as said the Impossible Planet/The Beast did the plot way better about an unstoppable evil god/demon who will destroy the universe by having the plot revolving about it trying to escape instead of "It has manifested, killed all the people and then dragged like a bad dog around the timestream to reset all reality" And to go back to the reveal of Ruby's mom being just a teenager pregnancy...I think Meet the Robinsons (Yes, the disney one) did it better by keeping the reasons a mystery instead of "oh yeah, you were just a unwanted baby lol" Anyway rant over Edit: Rant not over, what the .... was that "cultural appropriation" line? Why did that line exist? Who through it was a good idea? What was trying to achieve? Literally what was the point of that line? Somebody please try to make it sense!
Yet again, a comment has hit the nail on the head. Agree with everything here. I really wish that RTD would realise that the finale doesn’t have to be on modern day. His best finale was Bad Wolf/Parting of The Ways for me. The finale shouldn’t have to be some crazy destruction of our world for us to feel any emotions in the end… it just needs to be a high-stakes story that challenges the main characters and pays off their storyline. World Enough and Time / The Doctor Falls, for example. Low-scale. It’s on a spaceship we have had no previous encounter with. But it’s high stakes because it proves to be the threat that undoes our main characters. There’s no other hook than “the main characters are all screwed” and it works so well! And yeah.. You and loads of other people found issue with the cultural appropriation line. I did too. I think RTD is desperate to get brownie points from the audience by being as “progressive” as possible. But in my opinion, he’s not very progressive at all.. and you can kinda tell by how much he forces it.
I just finished it 3 minutes ago and went straight to KZread to see if anyone else thought this was horrible
This is exactly what I do with stuff I love / hate 😂 sorry to hear you didn’t enjoy it.
For the 2nd doctor of the 3rd reboot of the series dubbed Doctor Boo Who. I have nothing good to say about this season other than it had nice animation. Jodie Whittaker had bigger nuts than this doctor. Hell Donna Noble's daughterrr, Rose had bigger balls than Ncuti Gatwa doctor. I wont defend anything about this hot trash lol. Oh and can we point out the fact that Ncuti got his companion killed over some ass. LIKE Bruh!!!!!
The whole Sutekh reveal/storyline feels like it should have happened two seasons from now. It just feels like so much of the story was removed, or rearranged. And what was kept was already really rushed. It's also funny to consider the Sutekh, the destroyer of all life, was.defeated.because he couldn't unclip himself from a rope.
Yes! I was meant to say something in the video about how this should’ve been the BIG finale of the era, with far more stakes and deaths and emotional weight. Sutekh being the random villain you bring back for a quick and easy finale is such a bad move.
I will say - as a disappointment to the ending being too upbeat, and a happy ending with no downsides, the whole season was based on Fairytale's and life (i.e. each episode documenting birth to life (space babies - teenagers on social media - death)) but all Fairytale's have a happy ever after - and I'm using head-canon to suggest that this universe split or Toymaster implementation has shifted this dynamic to make it different to the realities we've experienced in previous Doctor's adventures.
What a God of Gods that was.
Sutekh's redesign was really poor. What part of the ideas room saw the poorly executed Jackal-ish head at the end of Pyramids and said "yes what we need to do is make Sutekh a giant furry who is clinging onto the Tardis"? It's absolute nonsense. Just redesign the iconic costume and make him a humanoid presence in that suit. Or better still save Sutekh for a better script and make this a different antagonist. For all the quality of characterisation he could have just been a giant malicious alien dog-like creature without the Sutekh name. They got the character so wrong anyway that he may as well not have been Sutekh at all?
Sigh... I hate to say it but yes I didn't much enjoy EOD. I watched LORS for the first time in the cinema, spending the week before avoiding spoilers. Although the Sutekh reveal meant nothing to me in terms of who the character was, it was a great reveal and I was pumped. I think LORS is a great episode that i thoroughly enjoyed. EOD death though, was a whole lot of nothing with so much that made little sense and was hella contradictory. However, for me, this season has been thoroughly enjoyable and a marked improvement over the last few years. Five of the eight episodes are great, a couple of alright episodes and just the one low point. Similarly to how i really don't like Last of the Time Lords and the resolution to Journeys End, EOD doesn't detract from my overall enjoyment of the respective series/season.
Glad to hear you enjoyed the season overall! I will say that it’s been a great season for getting lots of people back on board with the show. Also glad to hear that you enjoyed TLORS. Shame about Empire of Death though. Here’s hoping the next finale packs more of a punch!
crazy to watch this after the finale and see how the most promising moments of these episodes amounted to nothing in the finale 😭
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100% ❤
Are we all starting to remember exactly why we celebrated when RTD left the show the first time? This went beyond disappointing and reached a realm of malicious destruction. Fair enough, RTD wants to make the show a vehicle for his ideology going forward. He's the showrunner and that's his prerogative and it's easily avoided by simply not watching. However, he is not content with just this. He also feels that he needs to retcon the classic show and episodes written by people RTD can't even hope to approach in terms of talent. That's simply unforgivable. As far as I am concerned the Doctor had twelve regenerations and that was the end of it. Nothing that came after counts
We stan Capaldi ending enjoyers
I’m glad to see someone actually mature about disagreeing with the writer’s ideology. Too often do I see people crying about it as if they can’t just, as you said, stop watching lol. My biggest issue with his era isn’t this.. but I will say it seems like he’s constantly trying to score brownie points by virtue signalling. Especially with lines like “cultural appropriation” and the terrible characterisation of Rose Noble, the show’s first BIG trans character. As much as I’ve liked - and even loved - a few episodes of this new run.. I must admit, I haven’t loved the show as a whole since Capaldi.
it was not a normal rope, it was a super molecular rope xD
And he’s the God of all Gods who has both the powers of mind control and the ability to literally bring death wherever he goes.
Yeah, the whole "Bad Doggie" thing, wasn't so great...
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Suetech is not an anagram, it's a portmanteau.
You must be fun at parties. Plus I wasn’t even on about “Suetech”. I was talking about “Sutech” morphing into “Sutekh”. You can hear me even verbally spell out “The S and U from Susan and the Tech part of Technology”. So your “clever” moment wasn’t really as clever as you were hoping I’m afraid.
Yes! Thank you for pointing out how 73 Yards was pointless by the end of it. I didn't see anyone else talking about it, I started to think that I'm the odd ball here, so thank you for that. IANA (sorry)
You Are Not Alone after all ;P Yeah, I liked the episode mostly but it didn't pay off to anything at all, did it? It would've been unsatisfying in a regular season of Who, but especially in a compact, 8-episode season? Yikes. Each episode needs to be slightly more important in my opinion. Next season, hopefully they get it right.
@@MrGreavesSeries 7b was a 8 episode run and that felt like a much more smoother run to this. I feel like I get the Doctor and Clara's dynamic by the end of that run of stories. I know series 7 may not be high on some people's list but it's a personal favorite of mine where you feel the fun of bouncing around time and space.
I can’t disagree for the most part. I actually really liked The Legend. But I thought that it was leading up to a massive climax, but I just got metaphorically blue balled instead. I can accept that some stuff doesn’t make sense. It’s timey wimey. That’s fine. But the finale was such a mid season style episode. Legend was a better finale than the actual finale. My fiance actually got into the season, and he’s never been a DW fan. So he was excited for the last episode too, and we both just sat there afterwards quietly, wondering what the hell just happened, because it was so…. easy…
Ah God that's the worst thing... one of my best friends has never been into Doctor Who but wanted to watch the new season because he saw my reviews, and I've kinda got to steer him away from it now because I know he hates fantasy stuff and he'll definitely hate the finale lol. It's kinda embarrassing trying to get new people on board when the show is shooting itself in the foot like this. We should both get our respective parties to start back at Series 1 with Eccleston lol. Maybe that'll help.
@@MrGreavesSeries 1 2005 still remains as one of the go to seasons to introduce new fans to Doctor Who. Along with Series 5 for example. Solid jumping on point there too.
This was such a good vid honestly. No BS or constant repetitive jabbing, just straight up thoughts of how you felt about the episodes and nice pacing too. I too was disappointed with the finale and a lot of it just didn't make sense. It really is just lazy writing. Even if moff(or is it RTD? I always get confused if they are both working on this or if one of them is the main writer but you get what I mean) has some kind of bigger reveal next season about ruby not being so normal, it's just dis-interesting to me at this point. I will still go ahead and continue to watch dr who though, As I basically feel like "welp, I have come this far, I might as well see what else happens, even if it's disappointing". I will say tho, I have very low expectations for the next season.
Thank you, I really appreciate the comment. Glad to know you thought so and so about my video <3 Yeah I must say I'm very bored with Ruby. I feel like I've waited too long for her character to have anything of worth and her storyline went down the drain fast! But much like you, even though my expectations are low, I will still be watching the next season. After all, it's not the end of the world - I've got plenty of Doctor Who books to read and audio dramas to listen to!
@@MrGreaves you're welcome~ Yeah, I know technically it's a bad practice to keep engaging in content, since most people will make the argument that nothing will change if people keep eating it up but at the same time, I think this season has gotten quite a low amount of people watching already, So I am hoping that they make a better story-line for next season based on the decrease of viewership. Anyways tho, I would also like to add that I love the funny moments in your vid lmao. The part about the rope around sutekh and the part where you insert a clip of deadpool, absolutely fantastic LOL.
@@GrimmSmile Here’s hoping! Not sure how much the viewership has decreased but I imagine this season probably lost some people, even though overall ratings are pretty good. Either way, I hope it’s been made clear that stories for the sake of online content aren’t good. And thank you! I appreciate it. While I’m more fond of serious criticism, I try and keep stuff as light as I can :P glad it pays off!
I agree with everything u said but……”Beatles shitty music”……. *tread carefully* 🫨 (their music is great 🤧🤧)
AHAHAHA glad someone finally noticed that joke
It was a bit disappointing, but no where as bad as the cliffhanger between Ascension of the Cybermen and Timeless Children. Upon further rewatches, I can see what RTD was going for but it definitely relies on emotion more than logic. I feel like he needed to do another draft on the episode, or that it was written without reading the previous one. Like “Dust of Death” is the cheesiest thing I’ve ever head, and they literally said “Gift of Death” in the previous episode. That’s a minor detail in a storyline with some massive holes, but it just proves my point about the two parts feeling out of joint
Oh God don't remind me of The Timeless Children please! Honestly, I didn't even feel the emotion in this one. It felt devoid of anything substantial for me. Just RTD aiming at the sky but barely being able to jump out of the trench. And yes, both episodes feel very disjointed! The previously trailer even alters footage from The Legend of Ruby Sunday! Which is strange..
@@MrGreaves really? What footage was altered?
@@captainawesome0711 I think it was Possessed Susan’s cliffhanger line. It’s a very very minor change but still a very odd and unnecessary one.
@@MrGreaves is it Dust of Death vs Gift of Death?
@@captainawesome0711 no it’s actually “I bring Sutekh’s gift of death for you and all of this tiny, vile, incessant universe” as opposed to it being “for you and all your tiny, vile..” in the previous episode.
the whole series was awful and should have been called the crying dr. dr who ended half way through matt smith at best but mainly after david tennant, russell t davies should stop and. this show has passed its sell by date, awful
Excellent analysis! Also, how does just dragging Sutekh through the time vortex force him to use his powers? The stupidity of death + death=life notwithstanding, it makes no sense. He's so powerful, yet so weak. The best scene with the nameless woman and the baby felt very like something Moffat would write. So much so that I wondered if he actually had.
Yeah, the whole defeat of Sutekh had like no logic behind it. And you're right, the spoon lady scene was very Moffat-y. Kind of "fairytale sad", if that makes sense? But then again, RTD is trying to mimic Moffat's fairytale Doctor Who style so idk. Either way, thank you for your kind words <3
@@MrGreaves You're quite welcome. It seems to me that RTD has always been compositing other people's styles from the beginning. Now, he's just adding Moffat and Chibnall to the mix.
@@MichaelPhillipsatGreyOwlStudio I don’t think that’s necessary a bad thing, but it’s clear that he’s providing a lot of style over substance here. As I’ll always argue, originality is pretty much impossible. Of course you’ll have influences, but you need to add your own importance and style and substance and dynamics, blah blah blah. RTD isn’t really doing that right now.
most disappointing is a stretch imo. nothing will ever reach the lows of the s6 finale for me
Fair enough, I support that. For me, I was only like 6 when the Series 6 finale aired so I wasn't able to be disappointed by it really. And by the time I'd grown up a bit, I'd seen it so much (and everything that comes after) that it would no longer be disappointing. Just a bad episode in hindsight. This is the first time I've felt properly let down by a finale. Maybe except for Series 12? But that just angered me more than anything.
First off, great video! Gave great points and supporting arguments. My main issue with the season was the writing for Ncuti. I thought he played a great doctor, but the writing really put him in a hole. Boom was the only episode he actually got to be brilliant. I thought they would really do something with him in the finale, or give him some character growth like most seasons do, but instead of being brilliant, it was kinda just….. well here’s a random solution. And last thing……. If he could’ve just whistled the tardis from him….. how did Sutekh stay on it so long and why didn’t he do that in the first place instead of a whole Memory Tardis? I enjoyed the season, but the finale just made everything in retrospect, blah.
Thank you! I actually agree with this. Ncuti is ace but his character is a bit all over the place. Hoping some consistency or at least acknowledged flaws get brought up soon. And yeah, the whistle was cheap lol
You think 73 yards was pointless?💀 that was one of the best episodes of dr who I’ve ever seen, maybe the point is to watch a show and enjoy it 😂
Your opinion is not the blueprint for everyone. I’m allowed to consume media how I do, and you’re allowed to consume it how you do. I have no issue with you enjoying the episode. And fyi, if you spent a minute to check my review of 73 Yards.. I literally DID enjoy the episode. I just said in hindsight it is pointless because it provided absolutely nothing. No character growth, no plot development, no solutions/answers to its mysteries… Nada. Just that Welsh bloke reappearing in the finale, albeit talking about something completely different to what he actually was in 73 Yards.
Bro doesnt know what a red herring is. Why is everyone just accepting the ending as is when its obvious its gonna be a twist, hence why its absolutely disappointing, plot hole ridden, makes 0 sense, and fucking Mrs Flood basically tells us to just ignore it. Are Doctor Who fans just expecting shit writing or are we just dumb?
As I answered in a previous comment to you, in which you said the same thing, the Ruby’s mum reveal is not a red herring. It is presented as a definitive answer with definitive proof supporting it. And if it is a red herring, I will criticise it for being bad writing. Because a red herring should not be presented as an answer. It should be presented as a misleading factor that people think will LEAD to an answer. Maybe you don’t know what a red herring is 🤔 Also, your basis for it being a red herring is that it makes 0 sense when there are plenty of other things in this finale that make 0 sense and are in no way even part of a mystery. Maybe you just need to accept that this finale isn’t as well-written as you think. If you enjoyed it, that’s fine! I don’t want to take that away from you. I’m glad you had fun with it. But being hostile towards other people’s critiques and calling me dumb for having a different point of view than you.. is not on.
Creased at the mention of Adam Mitchell. 🤣🤣 Kate seems to just employ anyone at UNIT. There are too many people working there, too many faces and names to remember no memorable acting or lines, and a generally boring arrangement of actors. I didn’t feel anything when Kate and her colleagues were reduced to dust. How can I? There’s no personality, just the reciting of lines. Ruby’s storyline is equally as boring, and she’s just not an interesting character. Her mother was a 15-year-old human in a cloak with the hands of a 60-year-old man. More to the point, a God wouldn’t care about a random nurse who likes coffee. Hell, Ruby didn’t even seem to care when her own mother was reduced to dust! Also, I hate the CGI Sutekh. I thought Sutekh was a horse at first. He just recites ominous lines while his minions stand around menacingly, and he’s… defeated with a dog lead? I don’t like Ncuti’s Doctor either. I did wonder if this iteration of the Doctor goes through stages of disassociation because he seems to cry over the wrong things… Susan? 🤔 His ‘best friend’ (scraping the barrel a bit if Ruby’s his bestie) leaving the TARDIS? 🤔 A random racist on an alien world? 😩😥 A love interest he’d only known for an hour? 😭😡
Again, I agree with pretty much all of this. Seems a lot of the fanbase is actually siding with each other on this one, which is refreshing. I’m most angry about Ruby and Sutekh. Just absolutely wasted both of them. More so Sutekh. Why even bring him back if there’s no good story to tell with him? Jesus man… And yeah, I’m very concerned about children working at UNIT lol. Rose especially. At least Morris is a super-genius. What does she bring to the table?
Well...what a pile of pants that was. Plot holes so big you could drive a double decker bus through. Sutehk saying rubys secret was a bigger threat than the timelord...only for her to be just a normal person? What the absolute flipping heck was all that about? You telling me the doctor couldn't find a spoon or a peice of metal anywhere but only from a random woman? Ruby making snow everywhere...WHY....she not just normal after all? why did meistro panic over her song of she was just normal? why was rubys mum wearing a huge robe? who was supposed to see her pointing? if it's the doctor, why would rubys mum care to stop and point just to tell him a name that would mean nothing to him? why did ruby make it snow everywhere if it was a memory of an event she would probablyexperiencd when she was DAYS OLD! TIME IS NOT A MEMORY RUSSEL!! why did sutehk look like a fiberglass dog on the flashback screen yet immediately looked like scoobydoo when he attatched himself to the tardis? Are we really supposed to believe sutehk was there when the tardis splintered at frontios? What about the big bang reset? was stupid!!! Just a stupid reset button. How completely LAME. Don't get me started on the cultural appropriation quip. Egyptian culture was based on tbe osirans..not stolen by sutehk. Sutehk was totally wasted. That ending was abysmal! So now death brings life? Really? It reversed every death? Why? Sutehk lived for centuries sitting on top of the tardis in the vortex, but now he is destroyed by exposure to it? Russel apparently can't write for toffee anymore and i have to say I only enjoyed a single episode this series....last week's. Russel failed to end on a high and fumbled the ball. Rubbish episode ending a rubbish season. This ending could have been so different...My speculation. Go back to star beast. At the end of the episode, Donna spills a drink on the console sending the tardis to the end of the universe where the walls of reality are thin. After the crash on the ship in episode 2, the tardis groans and then runs off. Imagine if sutehk waa the cause of the crash and the tardis reacting. Sutehk in his time tunnel sees the tardis through the thin walls and latches on. End of episode...the tardis leaves but the tardis is still reacting causing it to crash in the tree where sutehk sees the lady and using his increased powers, is able to make echos of her everywhere the tardis will go. So every episode after we see more Susan's. This ultimately leads to unit where he springs his trap. He doesn't have to be hanging on the tardis since pyramids. He could have been beaten by the doctor going back to the tunnel and casting sutehk off back to his eventual demise. Susan could then have faded away rather than joining unit! Undoing sutehks work? Maybe returning sutehk to the point where he left the tunnel would stop the susans being made, undoing her dust of doom! Maybe have horus return through ruby giving her arc some meaning? Anything but what we had. That solves all of the plot holes and makes the season a self enclosed arc. You can see the fingerprints of this in the story. Of course this is just my head canon bit makes more sense in universe than russels awful version!
I had a similar idea that Sutekh latching onto the TARDIS in WBY would be a better story. Especially since he gets sent to the end of his existence in Pyramids, right? So it makes sense he could discover the TARDIS at the edge of the universe. Where he was banished? I agree with everything you’ve said here. Maybe you should start writing my reviews for me 😅 Except for enjoying other episodes! I actually did but I’ll say the season overall was underwhelming.
I would add another FU to RTD with regards to his removing what I consider to be one of the most emotional impacts in the history of the show, namely Donna's tragic exit. Not only did he remove that, he did it in a stupid and unsatisfying way.
Oooooh believe me.. I have a lot to say about that. Journey’s End is retroactively ruined for me because I just can’t buy the emotion behind it anymore, which is the only thing that stopped it feeling like a lazy deus ex machina.
@@MrGreavesDavis ex machina
I've been a fan of the show for 45+ years and Empire of Death is the worst episode of Doctor Who I've ever watched, listened to, or read. I was viscerally angry by the end at how phenomenally stupid and insulting it was. Getting through the last 10-15 minutes was a chore and afterwards, my son and I went on a 15 minute rant over how pissed off we both were at this episode. I despise the temporal reset button and hearing RTD's writing philosophy that his scripts are there as click-bait really makes me angry as well. WTF? That is incredibly disrespectful to the fans and to a show that has existed in multiple formats for 60 years, with countless strong, traditional stories, and that he himself helped to revive. FU RTD.
WOW. That’s quite the statement. I do understand your frustration though. I could ramble for days about how much of a letdown and a mess this episode was. And yeah, RTD’s philosophy of writing feels very disrespectful and offensive - especially as an aspiring writer who was only inspired to do so BECAUSE of Doctor Who. It feels like I’ve been betrayed. I’ve spent years learning the importance of storytelling, characters, pacing, dialogue, formatting, killing your darlings, subtext, blah blah blah… and then this guy comes in, says internet content is more important than the actual narrative, and gets a huge pay check for it! When I have to work incredibly hard to get any projects made and passed off.
I don’t want to sound all “poor me” either. That’s not the point. It’s a struggle shared by every aspiring writer. It’s just a giant middle finger to ALL OF US that my biggest inspiration has so easily written off all of these tricky elements because of his status.
@@MrGreaves I, too, am an aspiring writer. One of the things I've learned is that the rules of writing are there to be broken--but only if doing so serves to strengthen your story. That said, sacrificing strong narrative for internet click-baits is NOT something you should be doing in this sort of storytelling.
@@timelesschronicles2182 They always say, write the story you want to write. Feels like RTD wrote the story that would get him popular on tv for a bit and that's it. You can always tell when art is just a job rather than a passion.
There is nothing emotionally stable or mature about this Doctor. He behaves like a wet jibbering fliberty jibbert. He is no longer the Hero. SpaceBabies - he saved the villain, NanE saved the babies. DevilsChord- Beatles save the Day Boom- AI saves the day 73 irks - no one dies DotsEtc - They all die ( off camera at the end) Rogue - Doctor is incompetent again, his post twirk flirt nearly gets ruby killed and Rogue saves the day. It felt to me that loads was cut from this series- is why the Docs U Turn on Bogeyman makes no sense. This new Doctor is not the Doctor. Great review BTW 👏
Damn, I can feel the anger behind the keyboard haha. I’d argue that the Doctor technically does save the day in Boom and Dot & Bubble (he did all he could to save them with the resources he had) and definitely in the Xmas episode… but I do know what you mean overall. Something feels a little off I suppose. But it’s not bugging me massively yet. Here’s hoping Season 2 improves!
I too found it jarring how Roger ap Gwilliam became PM and introduced compulsory DNA if we are all dead already.
I figured that all the dusting happened simultaneously at every point where the tardis had landed. So the events on 2024 had no bearing on 2046 as it was happening in that individual moment. But yeah...they needed to actually reference this info in the yards episode. One line...that's all that was needed.
I know this is what the episode says, but thinking about it.. it makes no sense with how the show actually works. Like.. as an example, let’s look at Adelaide Brooke. Her death is a fixed point in time, but said fixed point was temporarily erased in The Devil’s Chord, for example, when Maestro destroyed the world. A fixed point can be re-written if previous events render it impossible to happen. So many episodes of the show tackle the idea that the Earth can be destroyed in our past, thus eliminating future fixed points. I know the Doctor says that 2046 is a fixed point because he landed there.. but if the whole universe was destroyed in 2024, or 2005, or 1066, or 50AD.. then 2046 can’t exist. Inconsistent logic. And yes, we definitely, definitely needed a line about DNA sampling in 73 Yards.
whole seasons been a let down sadly.
Love how you open your video by making precisely the point that drove me nuts. Why would UNIT busy themselves with Ruby's mother (!) when they are terrified of the Susan Triad thing.
The story was just so rushed into. Wouldn’t have hurt to cut out some of the unnecessary things like the granddaughter stuff and the spoon quest, and replace them with reasons for the plot to happen and emotional character beats. Really wish we had the opening montage that actually drives the Doctor to visit UNIT in the first place. It’s just so random lol. And yeah.. again, feels like the Doctor is just a bad friend for waiting so long to investigate Ruby’s mother. Couldn’t he have just parked further down the street in The Church on Ruby Road and seen her anyway?
@@MrGreaves dude, this series has been well written, RTD has said Ruby is important next series, and is you know, fucking in it. I dont get why everyone is just accepting this ending as is and cant seem to comprehend what a red herring is. Bloody song in the show said 'theres always a twist at the end'. And you know Mrs Flood's entire last scene.
@@flightlesslord2688 I’m glad you enjoyed it. I wish I did. And I disagree. The reveal about Ruby’s mum is not a red herring, or at least it isn’t presented as one. A red herring is a misleading element of a mystery. Louise Miller and the lamppost are presented as definitive answers. Especially because the Doctor confidently explains how her importance was applied by everybody who was interested in finding her, and Russell has also stated this reveal was his response to the Star Wars Sequels. Ruby may be important next season, but I doubt anything about her is going to change. We’ll see, but I doubt it. And either way, none of this is relevant to my other criticisms of the finale.
19:43 is defeated via the strangest thing I’ve seen a fictional parent do, dragging em around to hard
17:50 the only consequences are that everyone he met in a parallel universe has had their planet killed but that’s never acknowledged.
I was gonna say like.. Rose Tyler should be dead right? 😂
TBH, I teared up when Kate died. I wasn't expecting that. That could have been an extremely impactful moment. But then, three seconds later, Ruby's mother and grandmother were taken out and I realised we were just waiting 35 minutes for the magic reset button. When will writers realise that the magic reset button will never be a satisfying way to end a series? It just leaves people wondering why they bothered to watch in the first place.
Yeah it’s a huge shame. There could’ve been some genuine emotion here but it’s all just one big “and then it never happened and they all lived happily ever after.” Hope RTD fixes this mistake for next season but.. I doubt it.