Adventure Alan & Co

Adventure Alan & Co

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  • @nelliespinney2664
    @nelliespinney266414 күн бұрын

    have you tried the Denali One Backpacking Cook Stove?

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co14 күн бұрын

    Not personally, but looks similar to all-in-one models from Jetboil and MSR. Generally good heat output and fuel economy, but not quite SuperStove/FrankenStove levels, and twice as heavy.

  • @johnellis4129
    @johnellis412919 күн бұрын

    I love my Jetboil Stash but it struggled heavily at -8°F on a trip. My go to for three seasons is the OmniLite Ti and white gas. My best four season and storm performing stove is a Trangia 25 with a Nova burner using an amish mix of kero and white gas (75/25). The Trangia works in 80mph sustained winds with up to 140mph gusts (tested during a hurricane). My absolute performer, ease of use with a glove, etc stove for cold weather and 100% reliability is an Optimus 111 burning kero.

  • @malinorcutt1421
    @malinorcutt142127 күн бұрын

    How does it do against mosquitos? Can they bite through it?

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co26 күн бұрын

    By itself, an AD hoodie runs a bit of mosquito interference, but the lattice weave is so open that once they a find a landing spot in between lofted tufts, they can def bite through. If you have a windbreaker overtop though, you're pretty much mosquito proof.

  • @kingdo22
    @kingdo22Ай бұрын

    Hey Allan thanks for doing this deep dive

  • @MotoWhispers
    @MotoWhispersАй бұрын

    Nice overview, i find myself enjoying my tarp more then my tent these days

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_coАй бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @gregptest1213
    @gregptest1213Ай бұрын

    Thanks for the detailed information. I am planning on using for a slightly different situation, that is probably less common, but I'm sure not uncommon. I want to be able to go to places that out of cell phone range, but be able to receive emergency text messages. (I'm helping care for some sick family members) So in case of emergency, I can quickly pack up and head home. Usually I am not backpacking so weight is not an issue. It seems like the zoleo is the obvious answer since my primary use case is someone texting me in emergency and I'm able to get the text, despite being out of cell phone range.

  • @Jack_Warner
    @Jack_WarnerАй бұрын

    All use expensive gas cartridges. I've gone back to a Coleman petrol stove.

  • @SamuelGarcia-rf4th
    @SamuelGarcia-rf4thАй бұрын

    Are there free standing tents that are also of this weight/size you’d recommend?

  • @michaellund3440
    @michaellund3440Ай бұрын

    Curious if you tried the Pocket Rocket Deluxe with the Reactor pot?

  • @Edward_ZS
    @Edward_ZSАй бұрын

    So what's the best configuration that can do high BTU but also SIMMER?

  • @strangerous1313
    @strangerous13132 ай бұрын

    Just an FYI: The tent stakes have been upgraded. They are top-notch!

  • @LastDickOnEarth
    @LastDickOnEarth2 ай бұрын

    I was informed that SOS still works with emergency services even without an account (monthly subscription) is this true?

  • @breannathornton2567
    @breannathornton25672 ай бұрын

    Where can I get a thermarest neoair women's xlite? I can't find it anywhere.

  • @randalmartin22
    @randalmartin222 ай бұрын

    You should ditch the toilet paper and use a small bidet. Far cleaner and less waste

  • @jimfromoregonusa9899
    @jimfromoregonusa98992 ай бұрын

    Great reviews....very helpful!

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co2 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @dummkompf
    @dummkompf2 ай бұрын

    it's funny that you refer to that lightweight mummy bag as a "traditional" bag. Traditional bags to me have a wide cut and they use cotton or other fabrics for insulation, which work without needing a sleeping pad but they're heavy as hell.compared to modern bags and they don't pack down.

  • @wixmich08
    @wixmich083 ай бұрын

    Great review thank you.

  • @SMafam5
    @SMafam53 ай бұрын

    I’m surprised Bulin remote canister stoves don’t get compared in these line ups - at a lower price point they offer similar systems to that MSR reactor & jetboil with faster boil times.

  • @SMafam5
    @SMafam53 ай бұрын

    And safer being lower to the ground (with remote system).

  • @billb5732
    @billb57323 ай бұрын

    Why didn't you use the tie-outs on the Triplex? They are there for a reason. Internal volume would have been much more similar if you had.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    Fair question. It would have made the Triplex a bit bigger, though definitely not a gamer changer level. It still would not be as big as offset trio. You also have to be careful not to pull them too taut though, since they're not reinforced as well as the trio's foot end, and thus more likely to damage the tent. Using those guyouts adds stake weight and set up time. And at time of video shoot, it wasn't windy so that aspect didn't matter.

  • @CharmingGecko
    @CharmingGecko3 ай бұрын

    Great comparison Alan’s friend.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    Thanks friend!

  • @ervinslens
    @ervinslens3 ай бұрын

    Another brilliantly executed film man! Bravo

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for saying! Really appreciate that!

  • @WilliamKapes
    @WilliamKapes3 ай бұрын

    Really great overview. I was looking at the Offset solo for my "just me" trips but wound up getting the new Duplex Lite for the better interior space. I did add the end poles that the offset series uses to get more interior room if I dont want to use the "find a stick to use as a prop" that I'd been using previously with the Gossamer Gear The One I was replacing.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    Thanks, friend! Yes, the Duplex Lite and Offset Solo occupy a very similar space, despite technically being different capacities. We may have to do a similar video comparing the best 1P options from across the entire Zpacks line. IMO, the bigger reason to choose Duplex Lite is that it is lighter and less expensive. While it is 1.5 sq ft larger interior floor area, Offset Solo has better headroom, which kinds of makes it a wash when you compare interior volume vs interior volume. Clever to use the offset poles with it though. Hadn't thought of that.

  • @WilliamKapes
    @WilliamKapes3 ай бұрын

    @@adventure_alan_co I picked up a set of the poles and the little cups for the mid guylines. Works great so far for that extra interior space.

  • @andreameigs1261
    @andreameigs12613 ай бұрын

    You've got a major flaw with your methods. You didn't control for gas canister size. The smaller canisters are going to get cold faster, and that is going to affect the efficiency to a higher degree, especially in the stoves without regulators. You should use all the same kinds of gas in the same size can with the same amount of gas in each can to control for those three variables. The level of gas in a canister can also have a large effect. Unfortunately, your data here is not good because you have way too many variables.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your feedback. The testing was conducted with the same 16 oz canisters as seen around the 7 minute mark in the video. The mixed canisters you're seeing in the intro are just for show.

  • @sowrov_sorker
    @sowrov_sorker3 ай бұрын

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  • @DDF1408
    @DDF14083 ай бұрын

    I used this combo all of '23 for over 30 days from mid summer temperatures down to ~ 25F. The fuel efficiency is great, it works well in wind, the pot is an ideal size, and I like that it's aluminum so I can do some slow cooking directly in the pot if I want (though I just freezer bag cook). This spring I'm going to dremel some grooves in the base to drop the pot down (like the Firemaple) so the burner is closer to the pot's bottom. I figure this will help even more in wind and shouldn't cause any flame quenching because the PRD is designed to work that close to a pot. Care will be needed to not overheat the fins though, but that's easy to watch for. All in all a great combo. Expensive but I'm glad I sprang for it.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    Nice! Great combo huh! Let us know how the hacked version does, been thinking about trying it

  • @ryanburke4868
    @ryanburke48683 ай бұрын

    I have the last stove it's perfect it fits perfect in my dualist

  • @Kendubious
    @Kendubious3 ай бұрын

    This from a guy with a zip collar and a button collar! That 200 smackers is nothing.

  • @seldomseensmith263
    @seldomseensmith2633 ай бұрын

    Surprised there is no mention of the Petrel. With a Windmaster TriFlex it's considerably cheaper than a jetboil, and the stove and canister both nest inside the pot. The problem with the stash pot is it is quite unstable on stoves not designed for it. The Petrel has slots that make the whole thing much more secure. Only downside is if you want to carry a 230g canister, it won't fit inside the Petrel.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    This was shot before the Petrel came out and we will be testing it soon and integrating into our content. Really keen on those slots, also how they lower the pot closer to flame, in addition to security. That being said, we do have a preference towards slightly larger pots than the Petrel - easier to cook in, less prone to spilling over, easier to out of, easier to clean, better for mixed 1-2p use.

  • @seldomseensmith263
    @seldomseensmith2633 ай бұрын

    @@adventure_alan_co The Petrel is actually larger volume than their marketing says it is. The volume of the Stash and the Petrel in reality is almost identical. Petrel is narrower and taller, Stash squattier.

  • @ddff5242
    @ddff52422 ай бұрын

    I second the petrel. Hands down best bang for the buck

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co2 ай бұрын

    @@ddff5242 We've since tested the petrel, and agreed it's the best value proposition and is featured in our gear lists. However, the narrower diameter base yields a slightly inferior performance compared to Stash, as it allows more heat to escape out the sides, despite the heat exchanger.

  • @medicinegone
    @medicinegone3 ай бұрын

    How tall are you? I'm 6ft 4in and I'm thinking of ordering this tent but I don't know that it's long enough. What do you think?

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    This tent is likely too small for you. Zpacks makes some taller UL Tents.

  • @browsman2328
    @browsman23283 ай бұрын

    One of my favorite canister stove combos as far as wind resistance and fuel economy is the Soto Windmaster with the Fire Maple .8L XT1 kettle with heat exchanger technology. This kettle is fairly wide at 5 3/4 inches. It would be a little awkward to cook in it but for boiling water it works for me.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the suggestion, we may have to try that! Definitely like the heat efficiency of the wider base of the kettle and of course SWM is an excellent stove. Don't love the 8.5 oz weight of the kettle, 2 oz heavier than their 1L pot, and difficult to eat out of and clean.

  • @browsman2328
    @browsman23283 ай бұрын

    Thanks Alan, like your reviews. I only do day hikes now so weight is not a big issue for me.

  • @freecitizen7372
    @freecitizen73723 ай бұрын

    The best backpacking stove? Snow Peak Giga Auto wins in my book.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    There's a lot like about that stove, but not having a cupped burner head is a big knock against it.

  • @spartanpatriot3163
    @spartanpatriot31633 ай бұрын

    Some people like to waste their money on over priced MSR

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    While the Soto Windmaster is a slightly better value than MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe, to call PRD a waste of money is hyperbole. PRD is the best burner we've ever used, and our current go-to based on performance and user-friendliness.

  • @Charactermatters650
    @Charactermatters6503 ай бұрын

    Just bought the soto windmaster from REI - 20% off for members so got it for $55 and free shipping! I had rewards that are now online and so it was essentially free - bought the Olicamp heat exchange pot for $32 plus tax and free shipping on Amazon - so the whole thing for $87 plus about 6 or 7 bucks for the canister so about $93 for everything - Thanks for your ratings - saved me a lot of time

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    Nothing comes close to Soto WindMaster + Olicamp in terms of value. Hope ya dig it!

  • @mikesalasek3603
    @mikesalasek36033 ай бұрын

    Why didn't you have a MSR Windburner, a excellent stove in both wind and cold.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    MSR Windburner is really good (though we have a slight preference towards Jetboil MiniMo - a very similar stove), but the bar is higher now than either of them. SuperStoves like FrankenStove are lighter, boil faster, and more fuel efficient.

  • @mikepoff9451
    @mikepoff94513 ай бұрын

    Soto came out with the regulars many years ago. Put canisters in a fish aquarium with water, then add ice and see with one burns with high flame. Soto!

  • @dekcarc
    @dekcarc3 ай бұрын

    Optimus Crux Weekend HE is very similar to the Jetboil Stash at about half the price.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    Haven't tried that one! Thanks for the tip. It does look Stash-like. First impressions are the burner unit looks a cut below MSR PRD and SWM, but similar to Stash. Don't love a frypan lid, but you could of course fashion a foil lid of your own to replace. Interesting...

  • @AWBabbage
    @AWBabbage3 ай бұрын

    I am wondering what weight Alpha Direct fleece you are using? (60,90,120?). I have just purchased a 90 weight Senchi hoody (4oz) with half zip and first impressions are very good but I need to accumulate experience with it. I am pairing it with an Arcteryx Squamish windbreaker (5.5oz). The combination seems to layer well with my Montbell sun hoody. This saves 9 ounces from my usual fleece/rain parka combination and breathes much better for active wear. The windbreaker doubles as a bug shirt.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    Great question! Glad you like it so far! We have a strong preference towards the 90gsm weight, so glad to hear that's what you chose too. 60 gsm feels a bit too airy/not warm enough to be all-purpose, and we'd limit use of 120gsm to shoulder season/winter.

  • @baroque9983
    @baroque99833 ай бұрын

    Thank you for doing this. There are many reasons to buy a system - cost, performance, versatility, etc. If this is about time to boil water in cold and wind, please try the MSR windburner. It should be at the top of the list given those conditions are what it was designed for. Also, the MSR deluxe burner is a design copy of the Soto Windmaster, not the other way around.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching! In our experience and testing, MSR PRD + a heat exchanger pot is more efficient than Windburner system, which is also heavier and more expensive. MSR PRD did iterate on SWM design, not suggesting otherwise. We simply prefer the MSR iteration.

  • @RGB872
    @RGB8723 ай бұрын

    Did I miss the results somewhere? I watched, rewound and watched again and was hoping for some actual data.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    You can view graphs with test results by clicking through to our stove buyer's guide.

  • @freeforester1717
    @freeforester17173 ай бұрын

    $25 Fire Maple FMC X6 750ml pot, plus your favoured burner. Cost effective.😊

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    Fire Maple is on our radar, we'll be testing the Petrel this spring! Looking at the Firemaple site, they are only selling a 1000ml version (which we definitely like, and which identical to the Olicamp)

  • @Dave_Outside
    @Dave_Outside3 ай бұрын

    Well I think a white gas stove is certainly the best in very cold conditions. Not to mention it's more environmentally friendly without all those throw away fuel canisters.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    This video is not intended to address extreme cold weather cooking.

  • @ek8652
    @ek86523 ай бұрын

    I’ve been totally happy with my Jetboil flash year round.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    We had trouble keeping it lit in Alan's 35F, 5mph wind test. The flame kept blowing out.

  • @AdventureOtaku
    @AdventureOtaku3 ай бұрын

    You left out the best Jetboil! The jet boil Mighty mo, is the same stove as the pocket rocket deluxe for $15 less.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    There's a distinct difference in that MightyMo does not have a cupper/concave burner head, which drastically decreases its performance in wind.

  • @michelstronguin6974
    @michelstronguin69743 ай бұрын

    Love the comparisons! My only two cents is that the Soto Windmaster with the tri-flex is the lowest weight for the best performance. The pocket rocket deluxe is a copycat made by MSR to compete with the Windmaster, but its igniter is less reliable and it weighs significantly more than the Windmaster (when paired with the tri-flex). The Windmaster’s igniter never ever fails, it’s like magic, I don’t know how they do it.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    To each their own and we get it on the weight saving. Alan and I both prefer the MSR PRD for being less fiddly and better balanced than triflex arms, regardless of whether or not the burner unit on the whole is an iterative copy design. We view the quality of the pietzo ignitor as largely inconsequential. PRD's ignitor seems fine and works well enough in our backcountry use. Even if SWM's ignitor is better, that's not a key feature to evaluate based on, and we still have a lighter as backup anyway.

  • @rickallen8743
    @rickallen87433 ай бұрын

    What about MSR WINDBURNER?

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    Heavier, and slower to boil, less fuel efficient

  • @phillipwitt4433
    @phillipwitt44333 ай бұрын

    ​@@adventure_alan_cothe windburner being heavier is a valid point, but it boils ridiculously fast and is much more fuel efficient than any jetboil because of its wind performance.

  • @Northeast-SouthwestOutdoors
    @Northeast-SouthwestOutdoors3 ай бұрын

    Jetboil mightymo £40, firemapel petrel hx pot £20 with a wrap of foil as wind shield wrapped around pot with a bottom overlap, poke 3 holes for excess pot stand £0. That's my frankenstove👍🏻

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    Love the hacking! We excluded MightyMo, since it's like MSR PRD and SWM, only without a concave/cupper burner head.

  • @tiagocosta1623
    @tiagocosta16233 ай бұрын

    And what about multi fuel?

  • @Funkteon
    @Funkteon3 ай бұрын

    A wider pot base and a windscreen is all that matters... Tall pots always boil slower than a wide diameter pot with the same amount of water in it. This is why nobody tries to boil water in their metal drink flask, and instead, they boil the water in a pot and then transfer it to the bottle. Surface area is critical. The more the better (within reason).

  • @georgeleakos8376
    @georgeleakos83763 ай бұрын

    Agreed. Simply using a wind screen on most of the these stove/pot combos will increase efficiency by 1000%. Besides, under freezing conditions I always take my liquid fuel stove.

  • @freeforester1717
    @freeforester17173 ай бұрын

    Fire maple FMC X6 750ml pot, plus your favoured burner. Cost effective.😊

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    Agreed with wider pots. Always prefer that when we can get it. Some folks have been draping short micro wind screen skirts from their stove arms which seems like an interesting idea, but you have to be careful about full wind screens containing heat around the fuel canister - this can be very dangerous and all manufacturers warn against doing so.

  • @georgeleakos8376
    @georgeleakos83763 ай бұрын

    @@adventure_alan_co of course, you should never fully enclose the canister

  • @justintuttle137
    @justintuttle1373 ай бұрын

    😊

  • @bcgobraves
    @bcgobraves3 ай бұрын

    I was able to score the separate Stash pot for like 25 bucks in REI's garage sale section. Planning to try it out with my Soto Windmaster for a similarly efficient setup.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    What a come up! You'll have great results combining those two. Very nice system.

  • @CharmingGecko
    @CharmingGecko3 ай бұрын

    The pocket rocket deluxe is soooooo good.

  • @adventure_alan_co
    @adventure_alan_co3 ай бұрын

    So good!