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Hi Jono Alex from Sydney here. Just wondering where I could find the chart showing the battery state of charge based on the voltage reading which you displayed in your video at Minute 19.58?
Ordered Lynx, but tried s22pro+ (50S) an cancelled Lynx ;))). It's so light not too top heavy and high pedal as Lynx. And still nobody can beat acceleration Begode MSP/RS has....
Nice job, Jon! Have you been on the V14 2nd batch yet? I think im leaning Extreme, but waiting for thoughts on 2nd batch V14. Thanks for all you do, bud.
When is it recommended to change oil ? I bought mine second hand. No idea it it was done by the previous owner.
I'd say until it becomes an issue with weeping oil or the suspension isn't performing well anymore. which is the same thing due to oil loss. The life can easily be extended by popping off the dust seals from the stanchions and cleaning them. Otherwise I reckon a safe bet is 6 to 10,000 km (3,730-6,200miles) or Every 1-2years depending on the amount of offroading.
Hi, about 48:54 - Torque Spec Would you use the same specs for the Patton ? Thanks ! (It will soon be my first time disassembling a wheel. Tire needs changing ! )
Hey Guillaume, yes it should be reasonable to copy those. For bolts that are the same size but different torques, it is based on the thread it's going into. So for thinner shallower holes use the lower bolt torque value.
I bought it to replace my T4 as an errand wheel. Good upgrade on the t4 in my opinion. T4 is dangerous imho. It cutout on me doing 55kph. No warning. Love my Ex30 though so still a Begode fan.
that'd be a great use case that i'd want it. yeah i'd be done with a wheel that did that too. cheers
Thank you. You're great.
How are you finding the standby battery life? I have a few Fedog fe118 based horns like this one on my ebikes and it fully discharges after 1 month of it not being used. So I have to remember charging it every 2-4 weeks and it takes 5 hours to charge
i charged it about a month ago after that video. It was pretty quick to charge and I haven't had to charge it since. I reckon the battery lasts longer because the horn automatically goes into standby after 40minutes. movement causes it to wake. I don't often arm the motion alarm so that has helped maintain the battery.
@@jonoeuc thanks for the info! I don't typically arm mine and I find its always draining battery sensing for the remote. I might pick one of these up.
Is there a wrist guard that you would recommend for mountain biking specifically for protection against injury? Will this guard impede comfort while holding the bar?
This one won't work with handlebars. It is possible to use them on the escooter but my grip is impeded and isn't as firm and escooters aren't as intense as MTB. It's my understanding that wrist guards aren't used with bikes. Best to practice and learn the tuck and roll!
Excellent job! Very helpful.
Jon, which size you are using for Fox Titan (elbow) and Flexmeters (wrist). Both of them are very long, and seems impossible to use them at once.
Hey Pawel, here are my order details: FO25193001S-M Fox Titan Pro D3O Black CE Elbow Guards - S/M Flexmeter Double-Sided Wrist Guards D3O for Onewheel™ M / Black Mine just touch but it's not binding or causing problems. An important measurement is my forearm length which is about 30cm (12") 'How to measure forearm' i.imgur.com/6DNVKu8.png
Thank you Jon! Another great, useful and informative video! I know that it's already long, but still you've put so much information that I would like to have some sections a bit more detailed, for example "voltage adjustment on the wheel after measure it from batteries". This section I needed to slow down and rewatch couple of times. Will try to do my adjustment, but it's not clear to me why you have 0.4 value as the difference is 1.4V. Maybe it would be good to put separate shorten videos for some specific sections with more details ;) it would be really useful.
Were you able to calibrate your wheel voltage? haha yeah I moved through things fairly quickly so as not to bog down the video but definitely get where you're coming from. Hopefully it was enough info help you out.
@@jonoeuc Not yet, will do it during my cover (buttons) replacement. Not sure when it will happen :) so any additional advice will be more than welcome. Thank you!
Thank you Jon, good and useful data!
Nice Review… Have you tried the New Update so far for the lynx? Firmware 005.0.011. If so can you also share us a review on it. Thank You.😊
thanks mate, I've been using it since release and enjoy it. running 62% pedals and 75% acceleration assist currently. I'll possibly bundle it in a 'Lynx news and updates video'
my lynx looks the same as yours as i copied it lol...we have same taste...i have no seat and a lowered pedals which i loved...i also removed kickstand as it is a little dangerous in crashes and i removed front bumpers completely
haha very nice! I have been wondering how much those add to the Lynx chassis stiffness. Do you notice anymore flex in the frame since taking them off? You have to try seated riding if you haven't learned yet!
I just do it without seat mate... I'm 5'7" and lowered pedals... A seat would be up my bottom 😂... I don't feel any flex
Is your sunglasses transition lens?
hey, at 6:56 they are Smith s photochromatic (transition is branded) Would've preferred the Oakley evzero photochromatic like the road prizm oakleys i wear. better comfort.
@@jonoeuc Evzero seemed really nice!
Tubeless the real answer
Nice review ! Thank you. Have og patch v3 sherman. 17k km and been looking new wheel. Been looking s and lynx, and after this review i ordered lynx. ❤
What's the price difference?
$500aud ($334usd) from eriderz
@@jonoeuc 😬 thanks though
Thanks for your awesome review! Do you consider buying Sherman L? Especially from the first batch?
not at all. Don't get me wrong, I love the sherman L announcement. It would be a luxury since id rarely use it, only rarely for the range. perfect if you're heavier rider that wants to cruise further. Cheers
Really appreciate the time and effort you put into this video. Loads of good info that will definitely help me with future tire selection. Thank you!
Is it just those two little screws holding the pedals on?
not quite, each rod has a fairly hefty grub/set screw. The end caps also prevent the rods escaping to the outside but not towards the interior.
The street tire that came with the lynx is horrible. Wobbles on acceleration and wobbles on braking. Do you recommend thr shinko for a beginner riders like me? I just want to ride straight without wobbles 😂
yeah I couldn't enjoy the street tyre at all. Yes I really like the shinko however it is a bit more difficult to learn on. due to the narrow centre tread which has less low speed stability. If you can ride a bit already then you should be good to go with the 241! The K262 will be fine too, it just struggles at faster cornering as mentioned in the video. More ride time helps with wobbles although the lynx is less stable at speed compared to say the sherman s. If all of that still isn't working out then i'd look at the pedal lowering kit. hope that helps, cheers jono
Another awesome video. Very detailed analysis ❤ are you running the shinko tubeless or what type of tire tube did you use? Thanks a bunch ❤
cheers mate, just the stock 2.5/2.75-14 inner tube on the shinko 241. I wanted to try tubeless but I didn't have the tubeless valve for it.
@jonoeuc yea tubeless definitely better, but sometimes in offloading, the tire bead can pop out if place and deflate the tire.
the idea of cornering fast and popping or burping the bead is a concerning thought too! I made a correction to the inner tube size. the default is 2.5/2.75-14 not 3x18"
@@jonoeuc that you jono, you are the man.
Love my Shinko 244. Big improvement over the Kenda, and on asphalt, at speed, it is less likely to wobble. Definitely a big improvement off-road and it sounds better. And it looks really sexy which is very important! 😂😂😂😂
good stuff, i'd like to try it sometime
Awesome review!
Hi Jon, I rode down to 1% then turned on Lo Batt Mode. my question is at what voltage will Low Batt mode allow you to go to ? you said you stopped at 74v. thats 3.08v/cell. Im just trying to estimate how far "reserve" i will have in emergency. Also SHerman S states a battery capacity of 3.6kwh. I recharged from 1% today 77V up to 100.8v and it measured 3221Wh went back in ? If I had ridden some more in LO Batt Mode would this Wh number be closer to 3600Wh ? My Sherman has 9600km all up and going strong. Regards Andrew Muller in Perth.
The Lynx low battery mode goes to 2.9V or -25% of 0% charge. so 2.9V x 24series in the sherman s gives you 69.6V complete discharge on low battery mode. The manufacturer battery capacities are always wrong and overstated. the sherman s actual capacity is 3,335Wh based on 2A from my mates charts. So your battery capacity is in excellent condition. Nice distance and good to hear from an aussie cheers jono
Is there a "Kelley blue book" for used wheels?
nuh it's the wild west. marketplace, craig's list and the forums are the go to resale sites. Also local ride group chats.
Awesome video Great comparisons I have always loved the shinko 241 over all other wheels having the soft rubber makes it 👌🏼 It doesn't last as long as the shinko 244 but in my opinion is a far better tire I have had both on my sur-ron and the 244 slips out far more often off road or in wet conditions 241 for the win 🤙🏼
nice comparison, I want to try the 244 after all the comments! at least a quick test on a friends wheel. My main issue with the 241 is that the pressure is ultra important to the ride feel so I have to check it regularly. Went up to 31psi and it's way more rounded vs 29psi. cheers jono
Nice pieces of equipment! I'm also interested by a mirror like you've on your helmet, I've a wrist model right now.
Yeah very happily surprised by them. It feels nice to be able to get someone's attention with the horn. Avoided a head on with a cyclist with the horn too. I've never used a wrist mirror but always thought the helmet mount is better for several reasons.
Awesome detailed review. Thank you so much. I can confirm your experience with off road vs street tire. I put a Heindenau K66 on my Master thinking it would improve high speed stability. The exact opposite was true. Really prone to wobbles and train tracking. Really scary above 60km/h. So strange as it was great at low speed as you found with the Michelin PS2. The only reason it seems to go for a street tire is if you need to corner super fast and need the EUC to stay a bit more upright. I actually find the CST-186 really good on my S18 but not so great on my Master. I think this might be because the rim is narrower on the S18 and the CST 186 is designed for a narrower rim. How wide is the rim on the Lynx?
good to know re K66. I was guessing it would behave like a linear, round street tyre. The CST186 has been getting some dislike from what i've seen so it just goes to show it all depends on the euc and rider. here is the lynx rim i.imgur.com/51YdqwI.jpeg
The cst-186 only started getting bad reviews after it was installed as stock on the Master which was when the rim was widened. I've fitted a older narrower rim from a c38 begode exn onto my Master with the CST 186. Hard to say definitively but it seems to have improved cornering predicablity but made it more bouncy. The problem i'm trying to solve is turning very tight turns >90° off road. Just can't get the wheel to yaw round quickly. I have also fitted a CST 803 to see if it could improve matters. It is definitely worse and I've now refitted the K66 on the narrower rim. I expect horrible instability at speed on the road but hopefully it will solve the low speed off road tight turns. Unfortunately the 14 inch rim is not that common so tire choice is quite limited.
I think your inside toe pressure is making your wheel wobble on turns....bring a little bit more pressure on inside heel. Excellent video, great human you are!
i do ride on my toes. however i've been learning to create diagonal pressure with toe pressure on one side and heel on the other. I'm skeptical to weight the inside heel but I guess I could try it.
@@jonoeuc The formula is as follows for forward riding. If you are turning right you will want to balance pressure between inside heel and outside toe. If you are decelerating or accelerating backward and turning you will want the opposite...pressure on inside toe and outside heel. In euc's there is carving and there is slicing. Carving is like chooch rides ...almost always holding a slight turning. Slicing is when we find a neutrality in our riding and we can place our wheel on the road exactly where we wish to go....as precisely as pebbles on the taramak, being able to choose when riding on the paint lines: center, left or right as we choose. When we slice, the introduction begins with the movement at the ankles between the feet and the rest of the body. This is done by with flexion and extension of the ankle. Very often here people describe on eucs that we push into the pedals to accelerate, and push into the heels to decelerate...and this in practise can form counter forces that do not let the wheel perform as easily as it should. Think of the most simple robot that could ride an euc.. Feet that stand on an euc that just has straight legs that are connected to a robot pelvis . When the pelvis of this robot go forward dorsal flexion in its feet occurs so that the angle between the legs of the robot and its feet become more acute (less than 90 degrees). This happens by the toes coming into the shins. To accelerate heels press into the pedals to initiate pelvis to go forward. To decelerate the toes press into the pedals to bring hips backward. If we feel high pressure points on any parts of the pedal, very likely there will be an opportunity for us to become more efficient with our technique. Acceleration is determined by the angle created between the unicycle cm, our center of mass, and the earth we ride on.
what about 50GB?
I've heard them referred to as the next iteration or version of 50E.
Most important bit to me was that you had to stop using eucworld with this wheel. I just received my lynx, and have now had 4 safety margin warnings when set to 20% in eucworld. In each of those margin warnings, i wasn't pushing the lynx nearly as hard as my cp50s, which never got near the 20% safety margin, no matter how hard i pushed it (fast steep hill climbs etc). Time to use LK app for this wheel 👊
awesome, happy to help. to add a bit more info, I set the eucworld safety margin correction factor to maybe -15% when i was still using it. Since the Lynx has PWM safety margin it also gave me confidence to ditch the app. I set it to 85%.
Electric 🛴 scooter rider here looking for solid recommendations for high quality wrist guards and other protective gear. TIA
Very good review. Really in-depth and informative. Makes me feel better about my new Lynx. Thank you!
Excellent review Jono, very comprehensive like an engineer would do. I learned a lot, appreciated. 6 pac Gord
Cheers 6pac, I'm a structural engineer so i'm busted haha.
@@jonoeuc Well done Jono!
Very thorough review 👍
So, where does leaperkim go from here? I feel like the linx is the pinnacle of EUC's, what could they add to their next wheel?
The Sherman L is coming! It's realistically a Sherman S Pro 4000Wh battery at 151.2V. It's still 46.5kg and I reckon i'd feel that the same as the sherman s. it seems safe to say I prefer the extra fun 0-55kmh range of the lynx than the stable cruising +55kmh of heavier wheels. at least until i try it. They've been tweaking the firmware with features but that went out to all their wheels.
Great Video Jono. Thank you. WATT-HOURS really don't mean much. It is AMP-HOURS that tell how far you can go on a charged battery. Somehow, we need to get wheel manufacturers to tell us the AMP-HOURS we are buying without the WATT-HOUR/VOLT camouflage disguising the really important info of "AMP-HOURS." I have a Patton and a Sherman-S. With the Patton, I full-charge, ride gentle for 4-to-5-miles, keep it under 33-mph and then I get a 40-mile ride before low battery beeps. With the Sherman-S, I full-charge, ride as fast as I want from the start, keep High-Speed-Mode "off" (so 42-mph), and get 57-to-60-miles before low battery beeps. ... The WATT-HOUR and VOLTS announced for each wheel do "not" tell you what you need to know about a wheel's range. ... It is AMP-HOURS that matter. All Wheels: WATT-HOURS divided by VOLTS equals AMP-HOURS. Patton: 2200-WATT-HOURS divided by 126-VOLTS equals 17.46-AMP-HOURS. Lynx: 2700-WATT-HOURS divided by 151-VOLTS equals 17.88-AMP-HOURS. Sherman-S: 3600-WATT-HOURS divided by 100-VOLTS equals 36-AMP-HOURS. The Sherman-S has double the AMP-HOURS of either the Patton or the Lynx. If you like to cruise for hours at a time, and I do, the Sherman-S is your wheel. If you don't ride too far and want quick responsive torque and have about $3000(US) then the Patton is a good choice. If you don't ride too far and want quick responsive torque and have about $4000(US) then the Lynx is a better choice. ... Everyone. Ride well. Good journeys to all. ... NOTE: I am a 90-kilo/200-pound rider.
hey mate, nice post cheers. Much to consider I thought they both represented the battery capacity. this seems to be a blindspot in the euc community. I was wondering why the patton range is similar to the Lynx. ta jono
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On the acceleration and breaking test were both wheels on soft medium or strong? Thanks
Sherman S = Medium Lynx = 52% pedal hardness. The Acceleration Assist firmware wasn't released yet.
Jono, I'm wanting a Shinko 241. When I went to the Shinko website, there's 15 part nunber options. What part number did you use on your Lynx? Loving that 20.4" diameter.😊
Hey mate, I ordered from ebay and it was listed as " Shinko 241 Series Trail/Trials Front or Rear Motorcycle Tyre | 2.75-14" Item ID: 254896864478
@jonoeuc Thank you. It took me a while, but I cracked the code. Just got my Extreme; loving it. ~maverick
I lowered my pedals and have no issues offroading. I definitely removed that nasty kickstand because it will catch on things and it will also reach out and bite you if you have a minor crash. I got my toe pads from EUC clubhouse and they are great. I'm at 1500 miles and I've had zero issues. Definitely interested in a better tire. Maybe the Shinko 244. It's the funnest damn toy I've ever had in my life. I've only been riding for about six months now and I'm 59 years old so I keep my speeds under 35 mph.
yeah i don't see a need to ride fast unless I'm forced to ride at car speeds on dangerous roads without shoulders. awesome, happy to hear it, enjoy!
1600 miles on my lynx so far with the stock street tire. Best upgrade was the pedal lowering kit from ewheels. I'm ready to change my tire, and looking at getting the bespoke TNT tire that now come stock on the street model from ewheels. Thank you for this comprehensive review, my friend. Cheers and stay safe out there. Happy shredding!!
well done detailed review
I would say an Euc is more reliable than a car. Fewer things go wrong.
true, I love the simplicity. no brake lines, discs or drums, wheel alignment, window wipers! well.. you know haha. In my use 2/3wheels broke down but my old car went 10years 100,000km without a breakdown so just anecdotal experience there.
What an awesome review! Great job!
Thanks for detailed review. Do you happen to have a link to the 3D file that covers the front hole, when the toe bits are removed? (Where you used silicone)
I bought really nice tow pads from EUC Clubhouse
not a problem, here is one. It has figurines but that's optional. www.printables.com/model/943520-leaperkim-lynx-buds/files
How are you liking your tire? And what will be your next tire? Thanks!
Love it. two issues are that it's very pressure sensitive so I have to check at least once a week. Even 31psi from 29psi made a big difference to round it out and make it more linear. I've had some oh shit moments cornering as the tyre transitions between the center and next line of knobs! checkout the tire comparison video for more details.