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It looks like I made the right decision when I opted to sell my AC200L. I guess what I envisioned when I plunked down the money was an external device that offered three, maybe four separate 12v outlets that could be used to power multiple high draw fixtures and appliances at once. Fortunately it was on sale when I purchased it, so it wasn't difficult to recoup what I laid out.
Maybe a comparison using mis matched panels with different voltages and currents. Is it a disadvantage and to what degree?
thanks @jasonoid! you are actually educating me on understanding more electrics! I appreciate your knowledge and explanation !
Interesting. I’m using a Renogy 12V 20A DC to DC to charge my AC180 via my alternator but the output voltage is very low. This looks like it could offer a 10x improvement.
This only charges 12v batteries. It won't improve the charging speed on a power station. The voltage output is also low (13.4v) so you won't see an improvement over what you already have.
@@Jasonoid I’m watching your plug-n-play 500w Pecron now
Just bought the Pecron with your code. Thanks!
@@sorbsappletv that will definitely work! 👍
where's the spreadsheet? LOL! and ratings? :) thanks for the in depth review! I'm sure that was a ton of work!
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I saw that, and thanks! But no scores? Like on the power banks? I watched your videos to make a purchase on a Bluetti ac180vs Anker solix for my fridge! So thank you! I had a Lion energy summit which didn’t make the cut to run a fridge. Will you review a Lion energy? Thanks again for the detailed and informative reviews for a newbie overlander! Solar panel next!
@@hawkeshots sorry, no grading sheet for solar panels. I don't have plans to review and Lion Energy units as of right now.
This makes zero sense to me! I bought the AC240 because of the 30amp 12V DC plug (and the IP rating). I also bought the 210 battery and this thing rocks! The AC240 actually started my 15k btu AC unit in my trailer with no soft start, no problem. I was shocked. The AC200 Max and my Ankers 767 could not start my AC. The only unit I have that could start it is my delta pro. The 200L was a big no for me, would buy a Max, 240 or ankers before I would buy the L. The 48V step down is ridiculous and a waste of a DC plug. Just my 2 cents.
I completely agree, the AC240 is a much better choice for the high DC loads. That's awesome it starts your AC too! Thanks for sharing your experience!
D40 was a broken promise by Bluetti. No 30amp output.
Just 300 watts, a little over 20 amps actual output.
I need to run my air-condition in my RV witch on should i choose ? 29ft one AC unit 30amp RV
Can you clarify your question?
I know the Delta Pro has EV charging build in. But are there options to charge from a EV charger for my DIY system?
Probably be simpler to buy an MPPT and DC to DC converter. A 20A DC to DC goes for less than $100. A 20A MPPT can be bought for less than $90. Both would work for any equipment 12V battery and wouldn't be tied to Bluetti proprietary connector and accessory.
Sounds logical! 👍
It's really good to see Bluetti, ecoflow and pecron making these units. Great stuff!
i think this guy had to be made because of the number of people that wanted 12v out instead of the 48v that this unit outputs, so in that aspect it fills that need, for those that do not need the 12v out, they can skip the extra cost.
I think it's been in the works for a bit. Maybe they have other 48v accessories they are planning to support? Still pretty limited since the AC200L is the only power station with this port right now.
If i use 500 watt how many hours i get from 100% to 0%??
Each battery has 3072 watt hours. To calculate runtime you take the battery capacity and divide it by your load. 3072wh/500w = 6.144 hours If you calculate some inverter losses you'll probably get to run that load for 5 hours.
Thanks Jason, I still don't know if your 12V DC items will run off the S40 not in load mode.
I showed how to get it into load mode and tested in the video. You can get 300 watts from load mode before it shuts off.
@@Jasonoid i don't know about 300 watts, the sticker on the back of the d40 states 12v 20amp max, that's 240 watts and not 300 watts for a standard load (load mode) not charging a battery... maybe I'm wrong.
@@TacoTuga it's what I pulled from it in the video while testing...(during the first testing section)
I'm wondering if you need to always put the D40 in load mode and will it stay in load mode because you'll always be using 12V DC to power your 12 V system in your van. One thing you didn't mention is that you can charge the AC200L if you have your alternator connected to the D40 and disconnect it from the 48 V port you can charge the A200L and from what I know around 300 watts. I have a AC200L and think it was a bad move to remove the 30 Amp port like they had on the AC 200 max. it's a proprietary design that leaves anyone who thinks that they can use the AC200 L to handle their 12V DC load is mislead. this is a terrible design and Bluetti is going to be sorry they made it this way. With Ecoflows new DC-DC $600 charger, when they made a universal cable to fit all generators that will be the game changer in my mind with Bi-direcretional charging.
The D40 puts out 13.4v in load mode so connecting that output to the AC200L input for 'car charging' will only give you around 120 watts. It won't speed up 12v charging on the AC200L. It would be no different than charging with a 12v socket in your car.
Thx Jason, I own both the D40 & 200L. The D40 has some good potential but does come up short (no pass thru, doesn’t charge 200L, 20a limit) There are work arounds but are just that. I don’t like having to manually change from CHARGE Mode to LOAD Mode, so I will most likely leave the D40 in Charge mode and wire my DC Fuse panel to my expansion or house battery. Not clean for single App monitoring/control. Overall, I think Bluetti missed the mark, plus botched the role out.
Great feedback and I feel exactly the same about it's design. Thanks for commenting.
Nah, its not that good!
Not bad. I think for the price and since I do not have the 200L I would just go with one of the dc to dc chargers. Not quiet as useful as the ecoflow one that just came out, but you have to have ecoflow delta 2, delta 2 max or the pro I think to make it work with the power station. I know it will charge the power station at 800 watts and I think it will also charge your car battery at 800 watts. Not sure how good that is for the alternator though.
Great thoughts! I also agree that 800 watts is a bit high for a normal alternator. Luckily the Ecoflow mode is fully adjustable to the charging speed you want 👍
Great review as always. Watching this reminds me that I don't own any products by BlueEtti. It seems to be a constant battle between BluEtti and EcoFlow, like Ford and Chevy. Always enjoy your videos, even if they do not apply to me because I learn something even though I learn more by watching. Thank you for your time and effort.
Good morning Jason, what’s the story with the 200 Ah Power Queen with the outlets on top? I don’t see that on Amazon, did you make that?
I modded the battery so it's more useful. I have a voltmeter, usbc ports and the Anderson ports. It was pretty easy to do since the battery lid is held on with a silicone like glue, they just pry off if you are careful. Here's the video from awhile back: kzread.info/dash/bejne/c5Ony7qDnLqYnqQ.html
Could I use this to charge a Bluetti ac240 b210 combo
Yes, it will connect to the solar charging port.
This is a specialised product for one model only. I really like your concise and thorough style of reviewing. I also respect your impartiality. Thanks also for offering the consultation services.
Yeah, it's use case is a bit small since it's only compatible with the AC200L right now. Who knows what future products it will work with. Thanks for checking out the video, David!
Since you already have the Pecron smart car charger, you could tie the D40 and smart car charger together at the house battery or vehicle battery to recharge both the house battery and the 200L simultaneously while the vehicle is running. Just make sure that the smart car charger is set to 13.5 turn on voltage. Great review. Hopefully, you will get the other little Bluetti box to allow PV inputs of 120V and down converts it to <60V for use with all of those power stations that limit the PV input to 60 volts or less. Too bad Bluetti doesn't offer a cable to use the D40 with a B230 or B300 / B300S to increase their standalone capabilities as well, although you could use the power bank cable with the MC-4 connector thru the alternator input to give those expansion batteries a high amp 12 volt output capability
I mean, it would be best if the D40 just did all that out of the box on it's own but yeah, I have lots of products where I could assemble something to get a sweet setup for car camping. I am really looking forward to that 150v to 60v solar buck converter from them. I think it will be compatible with other brands as well (I hope).
I think this is the first review of this. I know it is the first that I have seen. I know people on facebook are complaining that it limits you to 20 amps if you do not have solar added.
It has a 20 amp input limit in general. It will pull 20 amps from your alternator and 20 amps from solar (see the second scenario testing section, charging RV house batteries for the exact results).
Too bad Bluetti is trash. I had to use my "6 year" warranty as it wasn't charging through solar properly. Took about 10 emails and 3 weeks of back and forth. Eventually gave up and sold it to someone who didn't care about solar input for discount. Never again.
Thanks for sharing your feedback about their customer support. I wish it was a positive experience for everyone but unfortunately I hear about these cases still every now and then.
Would be amazing if it could charge the AC200L from the alternator like the Ecoflow does.
Yeah I agree. Too bad that 48v port is only an output port. Still a useful product for certain scenarios.
Thanks for the video. Wish it was Bluetti’s response to the EcoFlow and Pecron’s DC to DC chargers.
This product is a little off in left field. I mean...it could be useful for a few things I showed in the video but I think people want a fast way to charge the AC200L, not a separate battery.
@@Jasonoid yes! Fast charging I think is the thing most people are after. Really opens up the use of the power center in Overlanding applications!
Interesting product, Jason. I feel this would be MUCH better if it also charged the AC200L from your alternator (The Pecron 500w and the EcoFlow Alternator charger do a good job at that) Imagine if the 48v port on the AC200L was bidirectional, that would be SWEET! Thanks for breaking down this unit so simply. Excellent job!
Awesome review Jason👍🏻
You got a great channel, Brian! Thanks for checking out the video.
Bluetti sucks. Mine self drains in a couple days with nothing on. Total waste.
All power stations self drain if you leave the AC inverter enabled 🤷 I have never tested a power station without any background draw.
Great video jason!
@@AlternativePower903 I don't choose favorites between different brands of power stations so I don't get offended by someone dissing on a brand, even if it's Bluetti. I do like to hear what's actually happening so I can provide some feedback on what I think is happening or help to make it better. No brand I have ever tested has ever gotten 100% rated capacity. Usually they get around 85% or less on capacity. I have a full spreadsheet and grading system showing those numbers on each model I test.
Are you leaving your AC inverter energized?
@@julp7266he probably is
Have you ever made pdf cheat sheet for this kind of information?
Can this charge the ep3000 add-on battery for e1500lfp?
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Can the round connectors be attached to jumper style clips to make the install temporary? Can you pull 400w through those jumper clamps?
If you have a decent set of jumper cables and wiring, yes you can use this as a portable charging setup off any battery.
Which connection system is best... Parallel or series???
Series is good for clear solar areas, no shade. You can use smaller wire and fuses in a series array. Parallel is great for smaller arrays and for shading performance. It requires larger wires and fuses, which add up quickly in price.
for the chicken feeder in the 4" tubes, you can cut about 5 inches off the tube and then cut that in half to make 2 curved rectangles to fit 1 of them into the angled T to act as a sliding door to lower the height of the feed output for less to no spillage
No issue at all in having two separate power sources coming into the batteries?
Nope, no issues. As long as the charge controllers are set the same battery chemistry they will work together to charge the battery in parallel.
I’m almost convinced to buy one
Do what works best with your setup and budget. I just put out an update video of me using it for 3 months straight and how it's been going: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mXaWr49mfri7h6w.html
Nice!
Excellent. Thank you.
Hey would the ecoflow 200 solar panel work with the Newair 80Qt cooler fridge
Hi. Can you recommend a higher solar panel that will work best for this cooler
It only charges at around 75 watts peak so a 100w panel would be max I'd recommend.
Jason, these units have now become available in the UK ,,, I am currently driving an old 1990 VW Vanagon Westfalia campervan which i believe has only a 65amp alternator (can be upgraded to 90amps at a cost) ... Before i purchase, do you know if this unit would be compatible ... thx in advance
I'd recommend the larger alternator before using this, but it should work just fine.
@@Jasonoid do you think the 65amp would somewhat work in the meantime ?
@@SKSK-rz7br this pulls up to 50 amps. That doesn't leave much amperage left for charging the battery and running other required electrical loads.
GREAT review as normal Jason, thanks! I bought one with your code (thank you again) and expected it before Memorial day, 2 weeks, but no. Today, 30th, they finally sent an email saying it was delayed another 2 weeks or more and also stated their email system failed in follow ups. Not a good sign for the company, hopefully the product will be better.
There was definitely a glitch with the stock status on their website. I have confirmed with my Pecron rep that they will make it right to anyone who has purchased their products. The high demand for this product was unexpected and my video through things into shock. They have since updated the product listing with the current stock information.
I am interested after video about this unit for my ecoflow delta. I emailed Pecron only to have my email kicked back interestingly support is capitial S as opposed to lower cap s? I resent my question. I decided to go my normal search on an unknown company: BBB, Trust pilot, rip off report, scam advisor. What I discovered is no customer service number and a few unresolved complaints on warranty service on send and return of product. Are you associated with this company and if so why such a lack in transparency to a normal American business model unless of course they exist outside the U.S. and don't want to to follow the model of good seller buyer communication in exchange of money for goods and client satisfaction?
I've worked with Pecron over the last two years and they have been decent to work with. Mostly postive feedback from my viewers. Only a couple complaints. They are a smaller power station company but they try to make it right with their customers. You'll have delays in communication with all of these Chinese companies. You'll only be able to contact them via email for support. Hope that info helps 👍 they definitely aren't a scam and they didn't expect so much demand for their product.
@@Jasonoid Thank you for your honest reply as many of us I to have dealt with Chinese company's and have had great luck with Ali express a few others I dropped to the wayside it is a derivative of Alibaba so they know the working models of other country's. If Pecron is small and learning I do understand, it was just those slight irregularities and lack of searchable background which gives me slight trepidation in order of product, I will say your method of display is quite convincing.
the transfer switch must be 50amp or 30amp? thanks
You can have a 30 amp model, I just wanted to go with a 50 amp model so I can future proof my setup.
All the noise about Ecoflow's own version. for a mere $500.00+ - Makes you think?
Well the Ecoflow does a bit more than this one. This one is just a charger. The Ecoflow charges both the battery and it charges the power station. It's proprietary though.