It would be a better test to just hear the vocal without the instrument. Besides that I think the TLM-103 flatters her voice better.
@subtonic243 күн бұрын
Hearing mics in the context of a mix, or at the very least with an instrument gives a better representation of how they perform in real applications. Yea we feel like the 103 is the best mic for her voice!
@HarvinderSingh-yy8th6 күн бұрын
B is TLM 103., Naumann has its own sweet spot and warmth circuiratary. Both need processing. I prefer GTZ U 87 (150 bucks).
@subtonic244 күн бұрын
I've tried a GTZ mic. Worst mic ever. Would not recommend
@enriqueortega10037 күн бұрын
B - IS AVATONE
@bilik490215 күн бұрын
Change positon of pop filtr for best for you and less ess do the same thing. Only Rycote pop filter do the job for me.
@bigjavie4L15 күн бұрын
Mic A sound way better mic B Vocals cutting threw too harsh
@subtonic2414 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@DarthPreamp17 күн бұрын
B sounded a bit better and richer
@subtonic2417 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@4Bang9Gang20 күн бұрын
I like them both. Id add both to my cabinet. I’ll use them for different applications.
@audiofreq23 күн бұрын
Dude...im gonna link this on karaoke nights at the bar.
@subtonic2421 күн бұрын
Lol every karaoke place should have my video 😅
@rtdrec26 күн бұрын
Try the InnerTube Kit from InnerTube Audio. It's a kit that allows you to turn the u87 into a tube mic. The sound holds up with the big mics like u47, Ela m 251, c800 g etc. you will definitely get a world class sound. Fat, big, wide, open, 3d. The best thing about it is that you can switch it back to the old standard u87 within a few seconds because it is a plug-in system. when will the comparison with the AI 87 come?
@subtonic2425 күн бұрын
I'll be honest, I'm not really that interested in the InnerTube kit. I would much rather own a U67 or M269 before I mod my U87. The comparison between vintage and U87Ai is definitely happening before the end of this year so be on the lookout for that!
@21_RecordsLabel.Ай бұрын
Mic B is fuller and has more presence in midrange and mic A is more warmer and bright . For me I prefer mic B
@subtonic2429 күн бұрын
I definitely agree! Thanks for watching!
@даликайАй бұрын
Shure sm57 очень душевно звучит!
@HarvinderSingh-yy8thАй бұрын
GTZ U 87 is best U 87 clone.
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
Best U87 clone is probably from Stam Audio. GTZ is the worst company I have ever experienced.
@waves7300Ай бұрын
Neumann is more colored. Cv12 is more neutral. I own a u87ai but I wouldn’t be afraid to use the cv12
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
Yea compared to a U87, the CV12 does sound more neutral. I still believe it has a colored sound though from my experience. A combination of mid forward and bright modern sound. I liked it when I used it for a hip hop song I worked on when I needed that crispy modern sound, but not as much when I used it for a more acoustic/ambient song. Thanks for watching!
@waves7300Ай бұрын
@@subtonic24you have a link to the song?
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
@@waves7300 Gonna assume you want the hip hop song. Search "Jazy Aura Boo Love"
@FatimaGabutan-fu6tjАй бұрын
That's good. Thanks for the cover❤
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for watching!
@TheRoseMusicBoxxАй бұрын
🎉❤❤ 😊
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
😁😁❤❤
@steveplatiamusic8429Ай бұрын
Great demo. Thank you. Both pretty decent mics, but now I am interested in the Aston.
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
Glad you found my video helpful! Thanks for watching!
@thehotcorner3337Ай бұрын
Mic B seemed to have slightly more sibilance. I have the 2020, so I was really interested to hear how the Origin sounded against it. Thanks for the demo!
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!!!
@dire4048Ай бұрын
Mic B needs more correction to sound pro. Mic A has a compression that is natural to the listener and will sound more “pro” to a consumer
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and providing your input!
@Dane_RiazerАй бұрын
That compressor is awesome, but Im telling you apu loudness compressor (two in serial on the lead vocals) is such a time saver
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
Never heard of that!
@Dane_RiazerАй бұрын
@@subtonic24 understandable, its a new compressor. But if you use LUFs and a reference track you can lock in the dynamics from the reference, while maintaining a transparent compression
@birdisthezvАй бұрын
Speakers don’t sound the same
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
Mics don't sound the same
@ngle19 күн бұрын
Acoustic guitar sound the same.
@vlynnbaker5234Ай бұрын
Good review! Rosy sounds great💓
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
Thank you very much!!
@haleymariemusicАй бұрын
It seems like the greatest mic ever!! Great review!👏🤩
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
Thank you Haley!!! Haha you'll get to try it soon!! 👀😁
@thevisualizer305Ай бұрын
Good review. Thanks!
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
Glad you found it helpful!
@TheRoseMusicBoxxАй бұрын
Love this microphone!!! 🎉🎉❤
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
Yessss same!!! Great vocal mic! You sound great on it 😁❤🙌🏾
@thomaswithdollarsАй бұрын
That’s a solid vocal chain homie
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
Thank you very much man, I really appreciate it!
@codemyster1026Ай бұрын
I really don’t have any idea what you are saying, but I can hear the proudness in your voice. I love that I wish everyone had that.🤘❤️🤘
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
Thank you very much! 😁 I have captions/subtitles if you are trying to understand what I am saying.
@codemyster1026Ай бұрын
@@subtonic24 what I meant to say all the technical stuff was way over my head. I could clearly understand your vocals. I was just trying to be silly but also seriously man that’s awesome and I’m proud of you. Keep it up man.🤘❤️🤘
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
@@codemyster1026 Ooohh the technical stuff haha I gotcha! 😅👌🏾 Thank you sooo much!!!
@CarlMooreMusicАй бұрын
Work bro!!!!! The grind doesn’t stop!! Would love to hear/see a video of your u87 throw each piece individually (where possible) and then altogether to see the cumulative effect
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
Thank you very much bro, I really appreciate you!!! I actually have that video in the works right now. It is almost finished and I can't wait to release it!
@TheRoseMusicBoxxАй бұрын
I'm so proud of youuu!!! 🎉❤❤😊
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
Thank you very much!!!🤗🤗❤❤
@cristiancristeamusic9847Ай бұрын
They are so noisy, I would not recommend this unit
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
The blue stripe 1176 was known for being noisy so sounds like an accurate recreation to me! That said, I have not experienced a ton of noise with this and I've owned it for almost 2 years.
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
I have not experienced a lot of noise with this and I've had it for almost 2 years.
@raptor_guy2327Ай бұрын
That’s crazy bro great demo
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
It is crazy man! Thank you very much!
@robertgentry9436Ай бұрын
I had an Avantone at one time and was disappointed. It sounded very mid range compared to my top shelf mice and even some good sounding budget mics. It sucked on upright bass and I was expecting good deep tube warmth and punch.
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
I think that is a mistake everyone makes about tube mics. They assume tubes mean full, rich sound and that's not the case. 90% of the sound is the capsule, and this mic is tuned to be a mid forward sound with less lows and low mids. It uses a transparent tube as well so it's not really going to add much to the sound at quieter volumes. That's probably why you didn't like it.
@TheRoseMusicBoxxАй бұрын
Another great video!! 👍 🎉🎉❤❤
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
Thank youuuu very much!!! 🤗❤
@Monroe318Ай бұрын
Mic A is warmer
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@austinalexandre716Ай бұрын
chamber of reflection?
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
???
@austinalexandre716Ай бұрын
@@subtonic24 it sounded like the beginning of that song a little bit
@subtonic24Ай бұрын
@@austinalexandre716 Ohhh I gotcha. No it's not. It's the drum recording for Betty Grace - Eidolon, a song I mixed.
@RunningRebels2 ай бұрын
B Harsh butmore Body
@ZenyHilario-eq3ip2 ай бұрын
Hello! I really need to decide on what should i get.. my voice is kinda like sam smith. Should i get this warm audio jr or the rode nt2a. I hope u reply
@wsgcam2 ай бұрын
mic b but mic a can still sound good depending on the song
@subtonic242 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@RobertBartko2 ай бұрын
THIS!!! Is how mic shoot outs should be done! ❤️🥰. To the point! None of that yapping about blah blah blah! I love the A/B way of doing it with the reveal at the end. Really takes away the preconceived bias. For a mic nerd like me, this shoot out was perfect. Thank you 👏❤️
@subtonic242 ай бұрын
Thank you very much man, I really appreciate it! ✌🏾 Definitely stick around because I have a lot more mic shootouts and reviews planned!
@RobertBartko2 ай бұрын
Awesome video. Thank you
@subtonic242 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@kevinsalas27162 ай бұрын
A - 545 B - 57
@nathanweidkamp83852 ай бұрын
This stuff makes me so excited and inspired to make music
@subtonic242 ай бұрын
Im glad you found this inspiring! 😁 Thanks for watching!!
@Prodby31282 ай бұрын
U87 is a bit more full
@subtonic242 ай бұрын
Yea the midrange of a U87 is special. Thanks for watching!
@tj29er2 ай бұрын
mic A def was the more pro sounding mic...i need one :)
@subtonic242 ай бұрын
Haha go get one! Thanks for watching!
@ALAHNIZMUSIC2 ай бұрын
A comparison between Telefunken TF29 coperhead vs Avantone CV12 would be great! Awesome video btw!!! U87 projects those mids like waves so smoothly 👌 🔥 But avantone does NOT disappoint!
@subtonic242 ай бұрын
If only I had access to a TF29! Thanks man! Yea the CV12 is a solid option, but the U87 is a amazing!
@sohn873 ай бұрын
which one is which?
@subtonic243 ай бұрын
The result is at the end of the video.
@levelupwithmikenewman3 ай бұрын
This mic is still surprising people. I was using a Rode NT1 Signature series and a fifine k669d for voice over samples, and they unanimously voted for the k669d. Blew me away.
@subtonic243 ай бұрын
Yea it definitely surprised me when I tried it out. Thanks for watching!
@KingDracSiege3 ай бұрын
Not a fair comparison. Tube is adding coloration to the CV-12 signal.
@subtonic243 ай бұрын
This tube is adding absolutely nothing to the signal. This is a transparent tube and she is nowhere near loud enough to even start introducing harmonics.
@KingDracSiege3 ай бұрын
@@subtonic24 well something else is adding coloration to the signal
@Prodby31282 ай бұрын
Well the avantone and the TLM have different frequency response graphs, the CV-12 has a bit more low end (rolling the lows off at around 50hz and the TLM rolls off at about 70hz). The cv-12 also has boosting @ 50-80hz, 150hz-300hz, 550hz-750hz, 1.5khz-5khz, and 7khz-15khz. The TLM is a pretty flat response with just 1 big boost from 4khz-18khz pretty much. So although the TLM is a very clean airy sound, the CV-12 is more rich in the mid-range with a bit of that crisp high end. I’m a Neumann type of guy tho 😂 I’ve never owned a CV-12 but it looks like a pretty good mic.
@TheRoseMusicBoxx3 ай бұрын
Love it! 🎉❤
@subtonic243 ай бұрын
Thank youu!!! 😁🔥❤
@TheRoseMusicBoxx3 ай бұрын
I can actually hear a difference when you moved the guitar! So coool! ❤️ 🎉
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It would be a better test to just hear the vocal without the instrument. Besides that I think the TLM-103 flatters her voice better.
Hearing mics in the context of a mix, or at the very least with an instrument gives a better representation of how they perform in real applications. Yea we feel like the 103 is the best mic for her voice!
B is TLM 103., Naumann has its own sweet spot and warmth circuiratary. Both need processing. I prefer GTZ U 87 (150 bucks).
I've tried a GTZ mic. Worst mic ever. Would not recommend
B - IS AVATONE
Change positon of pop filtr for best for you and less ess do the same thing. Only Rycote pop filter do the job for me.
Mic A sound way better mic B Vocals cutting threw too harsh
Thanks for watching!
B sounded a bit better and richer
Thanks for watching!
I like them both. Id add both to my cabinet. I’ll use them for different applications.
Dude...im gonna link this on karaoke nights at the bar.
Lol every karaoke place should have my video 😅
Try the InnerTube Kit from InnerTube Audio. It's a kit that allows you to turn the u87 into a tube mic. The sound holds up with the big mics like u47, Ela m 251, c800 g etc. you will definitely get a world class sound. Fat, big, wide, open, 3d. The best thing about it is that you can switch it back to the old standard u87 within a few seconds because it is a plug-in system. when will the comparison with the AI 87 come?
I'll be honest, I'm not really that interested in the InnerTube kit. I would much rather own a U67 or M269 before I mod my U87. The comparison between vintage and U87Ai is definitely happening before the end of this year so be on the lookout for that!
Mic B is fuller and has more presence in midrange and mic A is more warmer and bright . For me I prefer mic B
I definitely agree! Thanks for watching!
Shure sm57 очень душевно звучит!
GTZ U 87 is best U 87 clone.
Best U87 clone is probably from Stam Audio. GTZ is the worst company I have ever experienced.
Neumann is more colored. Cv12 is more neutral. I own a u87ai but I wouldn’t be afraid to use the cv12
Yea compared to a U87, the CV12 does sound more neutral. I still believe it has a colored sound though from my experience. A combination of mid forward and bright modern sound. I liked it when I used it for a hip hop song I worked on when I needed that crispy modern sound, but not as much when I used it for a more acoustic/ambient song. Thanks for watching!
@@subtonic24you have a link to the song?
@@waves7300 Gonna assume you want the hip hop song. Search "Jazy Aura Boo Love"
That's good. Thanks for the cover❤
Thank you very much for watching!
🎉❤❤ 😊
😁😁❤❤
Great demo. Thank you. Both pretty decent mics, but now I am interested in the Aston.
Glad you found my video helpful! Thanks for watching!
Mic B seemed to have slightly more sibilance. I have the 2020, so I was really interested to hear how the Origin sounded against it. Thanks for the demo!
Thanks for watching!!!
Mic B needs more correction to sound pro. Mic A has a compression that is natural to the listener and will sound more “pro” to a consumer
Thanks for watching and providing your input!
That compressor is awesome, but Im telling you apu loudness compressor (two in serial on the lead vocals) is such a time saver
Never heard of that!
@@subtonic24 understandable, its a new compressor. But if you use LUFs and a reference track you can lock in the dynamics from the reference, while maintaining a transparent compression
Speakers don’t sound the same
Mics don't sound the same
Acoustic guitar sound the same.
Good review! Rosy sounds great💓
Thank you very much!!
It seems like the greatest mic ever!! Great review!👏🤩
Thank you Haley!!! Haha you'll get to try it soon!! 👀😁
Good review. Thanks!
Glad you found it helpful!
Love this microphone!!! 🎉🎉❤
Yessss same!!! Great vocal mic! You sound great on it 😁❤🙌🏾
That’s a solid vocal chain homie
Thank you very much man, I really appreciate it!
I really don’t have any idea what you are saying, but I can hear the proudness in your voice. I love that I wish everyone had that.🤘❤️🤘
Thank you very much! 😁 I have captions/subtitles if you are trying to understand what I am saying.
@@subtonic24 what I meant to say all the technical stuff was way over my head. I could clearly understand your vocals. I was just trying to be silly but also seriously man that’s awesome and I’m proud of you. Keep it up man.🤘❤️🤘
@@codemyster1026 Ooohh the technical stuff haha I gotcha! 😅👌🏾 Thank you sooo much!!!
Work bro!!!!! The grind doesn’t stop!! Would love to hear/see a video of your u87 throw each piece individually (where possible) and then altogether to see the cumulative effect
Thank you very much bro, I really appreciate you!!! I actually have that video in the works right now. It is almost finished and I can't wait to release it!
I'm so proud of youuu!!! 🎉❤❤😊
Thank you very much!!!🤗🤗❤❤
They are so noisy, I would not recommend this unit
The blue stripe 1176 was known for being noisy so sounds like an accurate recreation to me! That said, I have not experienced a ton of noise with this and I've owned it for almost 2 years.
I have not experienced a lot of noise with this and I've had it for almost 2 years.
That’s crazy bro great demo
It is crazy man! Thank you very much!
I had an Avantone at one time and was disappointed. It sounded very mid range compared to my top shelf mice and even some good sounding budget mics. It sucked on upright bass and I was expecting good deep tube warmth and punch.
I think that is a mistake everyone makes about tube mics. They assume tubes mean full, rich sound and that's not the case. 90% of the sound is the capsule, and this mic is tuned to be a mid forward sound with less lows and low mids. It uses a transparent tube as well so it's not really going to add much to the sound at quieter volumes. That's probably why you didn't like it.
Another great video!! 👍 🎉🎉❤❤
Thank youuuu very much!!! 🤗❤
Mic A is warmer
Thanks for watching!
chamber of reflection?
???
@@subtonic24 it sounded like the beginning of that song a little bit
@@austinalexandre716 Ohhh I gotcha. No it's not. It's the drum recording for Betty Grace - Eidolon, a song I mixed.
B Harsh butmore Body
Hello! I really need to decide on what should i get.. my voice is kinda like sam smith. Should i get this warm audio jr or the rode nt2a. I hope u reply
mic b but mic a can still sound good depending on the song
Thanks for watching!
THIS!!! Is how mic shoot outs should be done! ❤️🥰. To the point! None of that yapping about blah blah blah! I love the A/B way of doing it with the reveal at the end. Really takes away the preconceived bias. For a mic nerd like me, this shoot out was perfect. Thank you 👏❤️
Thank you very much man, I really appreciate it! ✌🏾 Definitely stick around because I have a lot more mic shootouts and reviews planned!
Awesome video. Thank you
Thank you very much!
A - 545 B - 57
This stuff makes me so excited and inspired to make music
Im glad you found this inspiring! 😁 Thanks for watching!!
U87 is a bit more full
Yea the midrange of a U87 is special. Thanks for watching!
mic A def was the more pro sounding mic...i need one :)
Haha go get one! Thanks for watching!
A comparison between Telefunken TF29 coperhead vs Avantone CV12 would be great! Awesome video btw!!! U87 projects those mids like waves so smoothly 👌 🔥 But avantone does NOT disappoint!
If only I had access to a TF29! Thanks man! Yea the CV12 is a solid option, but the U87 is a amazing!
which one is which?
The result is at the end of the video.
This mic is still surprising people. I was using a Rode NT1 Signature series and a fifine k669d for voice over samples, and they unanimously voted for the k669d. Blew me away.
Yea it definitely surprised me when I tried it out. Thanks for watching!
Not a fair comparison. Tube is adding coloration to the CV-12 signal.
This tube is adding absolutely nothing to the signal. This is a transparent tube and she is nowhere near loud enough to even start introducing harmonics.
@@subtonic24 well something else is adding coloration to the signal
Well the avantone and the TLM have different frequency response graphs, the CV-12 has a bit more low end (rolling the lows off at around 50hz and the TLM rolls off at about 70hz). The cv-12 also has boosting @ 50-80hz, 150hz-300hz, 550hz-750hz, 1.5khz-5khz, and 7khz-15khz. The TLM is a pretty flat response with just 1 big boost from 4khz-18khz pretty much. So although the TLM is a very clean airy sound, the CV-12 is more rich in the mid-range with a bit of that crisp high end. I’m a Neumann type of guy tho 😂 I’ve never owned a CV-12 but it looks like a pretty good mic.
Love it! 🎉❤
Thank youu!!! 😁🔥❤
I can actually hear a difference when you moved the guitar! So coool! ❤️ 🎉
Thank you very much for watching! 😁❤
Seraphim
I love this song!