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  @JP-rf7px13 күн бұрын

  I see thousands of wires that all look the same color? Was there any kind of color coding in the cotton covered wires? How did they sort them out? I know they didn't have sticky wire numbers back then. And will all you showed eventually be replaced by the Opus system as the other side was?

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  @cnagorka13 күн бұрын

  As far as I know there was no color coding at all anywhere in the original wiring. They would "ring out" cables or have them pre-laced on wiring guides...how they did that to the remote locations I have no idea. Someday this material will be replaced by Opus II but left in place forever with the wind hooked up so everyone can see how it worked.

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  @mikematthews234Ай бұрын

  No memory on eec 3 I used to hate my 83 town car for that Crank sensor was a main culprit on that system

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  @debim2013Ай бұрын

  °•°

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  @JP-rf7pxАй бұрын

  3 questions??? 1. What is the total horsepower of all the blowers? 2. Is the AC/DC converter going to be replaced with a solid state rectifier system? 3. How many wires were originally in the console harness and how many after conversion to Opus? After total Opus conversion,it would seem you could consider putting the whole console enclosure on castors so it could be moved to center stage for concerts?

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  @cnagorkaАй бұрын

  1. No idea, I've lost track, especially since they added another blower for the enclosed Choir, 2. Undoubtedly at some point, 3. Still thousands of wires going to the combination action rooms in the basement so the seven manual console is never going anywhere.

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  @JP-rf7pxАй бұрын

  @@cnagorka Is the combination action under Opus now? I would think that would be a priority!

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  @cnagorkaАй бұрын

  @@JP-rf7px Yes it has been for a few years now.

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  @WilliamMitchell-sc3feАй бұрын

  So in the great division since the second keyboard has 85 keys, that just means that the greater portion of this division, there has to be 85 pipes. Since there are mixtures, If there was a mixture II, 170 pipes. If there's a mixture III, 255 pipes, if there's a mixture IV, 340 pipes if they belong to the great manual that has 85 keys.

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  @cnagorkaАй бұрын

  Not quite: even though the Great keyboard has 85 pipes the bottom octave doesn't play most of the time, it only plays pedal borrows from the Grand Great, I believe. The Great chests are all 73 notes.

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  @JP-rf7pxАй бұрын

  Were going to need an encabulator function capability on the Opus system and a stop tab (preferably red with a warning light) on the stop board. And to honor ER memory, it should also have a "reversible" with multi speed tremolo and switchable to various swell pedals. Let's get this going immediately! I'll donate the first $10 toward this!

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  @JP-rf7pxАй бұрын

  Who were the Midmer Losh engineers (unsung heroes) who figured out how to do this and wire it. They are the ones who should have a plaque on the wall somewhere. I can't conceive how they did this without 3D cad to stuff all this into the available spaces.

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  @JP-rf7pxАй бұрын

  I hope someone is making copious notes and videos during this entire restoration. Someone, hopefully, is going to write a major book on the entire history of the various restorations of this organ. I may not live long enough to read it, but someone will find it very interesting. Along with a video!

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  @KingdaToroАй бұрын

  I hope they're going even further, and weighing everything while it's out. It would finally put the debate to rest as to whether this or the Wanamaker is heavier.

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  @jeffreyhoward879Ай бұрын

  If you play this video at double speed you get some interesting noises!

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  @bendierking6986Ай бұрын

  That one cymbal is soooo dusty. You wonder if that has an effect on the sound it produces. (I'm a percussionist, have never played a cymbal with that much dust).

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  @pilotusaАй бұрын

  I was surprised that I could hear (feel?) it all on my Macbook Air feeding a Bose Mini Soundlink! Shook the table enough to be effective in my kitchen!

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  @cnagorkaАй бұрын

  Cool! I'll have to try a setup like that so I wouldn't have to use headphones.

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  @WilliamMitchell-sc3feАй бұрын

  I LOVE IT! ALL 32' pedal reeds! 💥🎇🎆

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  @troymcdonaldАй бұрын

  Great job!

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  @PalmPeakMarketingАй бұрын

  Came from watching your old videos, glad to see you still make them!

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  @cnagorkaАй бұрын

  How old?😆 My oldest videos had nothing to do with organ work and go back to 2011...I can't believe that's 13 years ago now.

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  @PalmPeakMarketingАй бұрын

  @@cnagorka10 years ago, the turn signal repair video.

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  @cnagorkaАй бұрын

  @@PalmPeakMarketing Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. That car is in storage right now awaiting its turn in the garage to get back on the road.

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  @PalmPeakMarketingАй бұрын

  @@cnagorkaOoh okay.

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  @WilliamMitchell-sc3fe2 ай бұрын

  When will the Fanfare division be restored?

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  @cnagorka2 ай бұрын

  It's years away as the all of the Gallery divisions are going to be restored first. They would like to have everything playing for the organ's 100th birthday, which could be anywhere between 2029 and 2032, depending on what you count as the "birth"!

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  @booyaamplifiers70212 ай бұрын

  Man, i want the Chris tour of the organ. This is the level of detail i crave. Haha

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  @kloug20062 ай бұрын

  If it were a pure sine wave, I couldn't hear most of it with my system (f3 at 32Hz and f9 at 26Hz).

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  @kloug20062 ай бұрын

  This instrument is huge, it's like a multi story ship engine.

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  @lakryth87412 ай бұрын

  This is a control room not an instrument 😂

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  @11sesquialtera2 ай бұрын

  Well done, fascinating….I've been a huge fan forever of this instrument…..organist as well

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  @sigglass21832 ай бұрын

  Can you show us the new chior blower?

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  @cnagorka2 ай бұрын

  Next time I'm up there I should be able to.

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  @sigglass21832 ай бұрын

  @@cnagorka What year it was installed? I know the left forward chamber was not functional in 2019.

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  @cnagorka2 ай бұрын

  @@sigglass2183 I think it went in last year. They need to clean up and paint the blower room along with the new intake assembly before I make a video of it.

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  @B_MAD_242 ай бұрын

  What would be the plausible road map of restoration when it comes to this division?

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  @cnagorka2 ай бұрын

  I don't know how hard it is to take that grille off the outside and lower everything to the floor, as opposed to carrying everything down piece by piece on the ladders and flimsy wooden steps. One way or another it all has to come out, be redone in the usual way and put back up there, it's no different than anything else except getting it down.

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  @ABruckner82 ай бұрын

  This is nothing more than a 32' stack of harmonics. I'm not sure why you're saying "It's X in the 16' or 8' series" (even if true!) If you take your chart, transpose it down 2 octaves (to 32' C), build up the harmonic series from there, go all the way to the 32nd harmonic, the 11 pipe lengths form very important parts of the 32' C Harmonic Series, with lots of octaves and 5ths (#s 3,4,6,8,12,16,24,32), some major 3rd (#10 and #20...he left out the muddy #5), and a colorful Septième (14)! 32 (1) 16 (2) ---cornet starts here 10 2/3 (3) 8 (4) 5 1/3 (6) 4 (8) 3 1/5 (10) 2 2/3 (12) 2 2/7 (14) 2 (16) 1 3/5 (20) 1 1/3 (24) 1 (32) ---cornet end Now imagine playing the end of Franck's a minor Chorale, 10 or so bars from the end, left hand, and pulling that stop with the Great Principal 32, 16, along with a suitable Tuba, and BAM! Magic! It's flexible enough to be used for serious "double-sub-octave solo" (as in the Franck), and/or coupled to pedal to add strong articulation to the pedal register when the 32' reeds are engaged, let alone that 64' Diaphone! IOW, it's designed for engaging 32' registers for whatever purpose. Probably not useful without them. PS: Thank you for taking such an active role in bringing this stop back to life!

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  @brnmcc012 ай бұрын

  Interesting, so my next question would be, what is the current operational stop on the organ that is the quietist, and can you do a quick demo of it sometime. I'd imagine you'd have to do it when the hall is empty and there isn't a whole lot of construction going on, or we might not be able to even hear it. Of course it would still be pretty loud in the chamber itself, but I (and probably) we need to see what it sounds like out in the hall to get an idea of what a patron would hear.

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  @cnagorka2 ай бұрын

  Good idea and you're absolutely right that the hall would have to be dead quiet to hear it. Some people say that the 16' Quintaton on the Unenclosed Choir is the softest thing playing currently but I don't actually know.

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  @joshroberts42812 ай бұрын

  Connect the Spitz!

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  @booyaamplifiers70212 ай бұрын

  Woah, echo blower later this year?! I cannot WAIT to hear those ceiling chambers.

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  @cnagorka2 ай бұрын

  Hold on there- it's going to be years before anything starts to play in the ceiling. Remember that the Echo blower runs all the side chambers on that side (Gallery I and II, String II and Brass Chorus) and they're going to be done first. That's going to bring on an amazing amount of material by itself.

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  @eirikhetland32722 ай бұрын

  It must have been incredibly loud inside the voicing shop during the voicing.

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  @LukasLobmann2 ай бұрын

  Is there a video about the controls table ?

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  @cnagorka2 ай бұрын

  What do you mean?

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  @LukasLobmann2 ай бұрын

  @@cnagorka I would be Interested in a dedicated video about the control table with the manuals, what other controls there are and how the Organ is turned on. Im sorry if I use the wrong word, im from Germany and here we would say Spieltisch. Thank you in advance and for the great videos.

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  @LukasLobmann2 ай бұрын

  Where do the blowers get their wind from ? Fo they just pull it out of the room or is there a separate inlet ?

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  @cnagorka2 ай бұрын

  They just get it from the room and the downstairs corridors.

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  @paulh52932 ай бұрын

  At 4'16" - surely that's a stamping error? Spitzflote pipes are always tapered, even more so than a Gemshorn (top of the pipe typically 1/4 or less of the diameter at the mouth) to produce their characteristic tone, and are tuned by ears (because slotting would ruin the tone and slides don't work on a cone). Even the name = "Spitz" in German means "pointed". Those pipes don't look to have any taper at all, and the mouth is cut up more like a bourdon-style flute. Always thought provoking videos Chris! Thanks for posting.

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  @cnagorka2 ай бұрын

  NIck told me that the pipes are actually tapered, but just barely so, like one pipe diameter difference from top to bottom. You have to remember that pipe names don't mean much in this organ, like the Unda Maris in the Choir which is an open flute like a Melodia. Anyway in the last part of the video you can see what actually ended up in the Echo is a conventional Spitz Flute. Too bad they didn't connect it.

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  @user-cq3qu1bb7c2 ай бұрын

  I worked on pipe organs over 60 yrs, and never had the "pleasure" of dealing with double languids. But I always wondered about the actual construction. I I did manage to get a pic taken of a larger pipe mouth during a tour, but could't see to the back. So thanks for a very instructive video!

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  @jameswest82802 ай бұрын

  The amazing part is the people who designed and wired all of that.

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  @richardmaryman34942 ай бұрын

  of course, judging the sound of organ pipes over the internet leaves much to be desired seems like like the double languid pipes do not have as much overtones however the intensity of sound of the double-languid pipes is noticeably more for a given wind pressure (about 4.5 incheinches w.c.)

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  @20a10v2 ай бұрын

  This is really neat! I especially enjoyed the bit of playing at the end and hearing how it sounds-it’s really nice. I think if the pipes were completely tuned it would sound even better =)

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  @papiesteven2 ай бұрын

  I’m constantly amazed with the thought put in to the organ, take the 3 wind inputs for the keying room, the reason the echo blower provides wind for it (if I’m remembering right) is because the brass chorus/string II gets its keying signals from that keying room but it’s wind from the echo blower

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  @cnagorkaАй бұрын

  Correct.

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  @JonasClark2 ай бұрын

  Mid-Jone, I'll finally get out there to see this monster for myself. I really hope whoever gives the tours is somewhere close to being as knowledgeable as Brant.

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  @cnagorka2 ай бұрын

  The rest of the crew is plenty knowledgeable.

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  @SeattleBoatdog2 ай бұрын

  Oh, you know somebody got stuck in there before they put that in …

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  @anthjs702 ай бұрын

  Is it possible that the double stamped Septieme has always been there but was mis stamped by the pipe maker who, realising the mistake, just stamped the rank again.

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  @cnagorka2 ай бұрын

  Doubtful as the Tierce rank has the exact same double-stamping.

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  @barnarus25472 ай бұрын

  A bit off topic, but those roof divisions are likely to be almost impossible to maintain. Any wisdom in moving them to an 'antiphonal' section in the back?

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  @cnagorka2 ай бұрын

  Nope. They won't be any more difficult to maintain than any other division, you just go up there and tune or whatever. Keeping them in tune may be more of a challenge, but even that isn't such a big deal since the hall's HVAC is so radically improved since the time the organ was first installed.

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  @barnarus25472 ай бұрын

  @@cnagorka Well, good to know! And the leaks are gone?

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  @y11971alex2 ай бұрын

  Quietest: Fagotto bass 😅

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  @kennethrussell97922 ай бұрын

  I wonder if the Senator ever went up into the Echo (or Fanfare)…

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  @cnagorka2 ай бұрын

  Doubtful!

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  @KSL1972LLC2 ай бұрын

  Sounds like stop #218's condition may have been a way to say "'Eff you Senator!" from an installer.

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  @cnagorka2 ай бұрын

  I think you're on to something there.

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  @KSL1972LLC2 ай бұрын

  @@cnagorka A good example of this stunt was in Aeolian Skinner op. 1203 (1952 Boston, MA, Mother Church Extension 4/237) It was left substantially unfinished by voicers during original install. This and a number of technical deficiencies were uncovered during a restoration in the early 1980's. During the restoration, many pipe toe holes on the mixture ranks were found taped over and pipe construction/voicing was of very basic standards compared to other A-S instruments of the 1950's. The organ was large enough to hide the imperfections. Why? G. Donald Harrison and his team just wanted to be done with the project as the client relationship had deteriorated. He even refused to make it a GDH signature instrument. It was very well played "Eff you, dear client!"

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  @briandusell9612 ай бұрын

  Thank you so much for your Boardwalk Hall videos. Thank you also for the planning and improvements to production quality that you have put into them. There may be others out there, but this is the first actual flue voicing Video that I have seen on YT. Suggestion for a future video: Could you make a video of Brant Fixing the tonal finishing on a BW hall organ rank. A before, in process, and after.

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  @bpark100012 ай бұрын

  Listening to the 6 pipes on 4" (I assume that is the design pressure for the double-languid pipes), hearing through your mike, I say for the 2' & 1' C's, the double languid pipes are "brighter" as you state. But for the 6"C's, it's the opposite, the single languid pipe is brighter. When you say the 2nd languid is "open in the back", there is a gap between the languid & the back of the pipe (not soldered to the back?) so a piece of paper inserted from the front between the languids can curl up into the pipe in the back?

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  @cnagorka2 ай бұрын

  Yes that's exactly right.

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  @user-gw1rx3ww7i2 ай бұрын

  Chuffy

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  @Renatodonadio2 ай бұрын

  The "booster blower" could be the 100" compressor, since it helps the high pressure blower in the right stage chamber and isn't a blower in itself, but an industrial compressor put there instead of a real blower like the others 😀

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  @cnagorka2 ай бұрын

  Nope- it was specifically listed as a 30 horsepower Kinetic.

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  @jdcorganist2 ай бұрын

  @@cnagorkaIt may very well have been decided that it wasn’t necessary since the compressor for the 100” was doing the job, so they just left it alone.

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  @craigbrown79292 ай бұрын

  What’s the leather like? If it’s never been used is it still OK.?

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  @cnagorka2 ай бұрын

  It still dates from 1929 and when the time comes to restore the Echo it'll get new leather.

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  @kuiperroerdink16702 ай бұрын

  awesome!! also, how in the world do you get into the ceiling chambers?

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  @cnagorka2 ай бұрын

  Via a scary set of metal ladders and wooden steps into the ceiling vault.

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  @A_Bit_of_Thought2 ай бұрын

  My vote is: As funds become available, get the spitz flute operational.

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  @mcraft88612 ай бұрын

  Hopefully, once they start restoring the echo division this should be the first set of ranks to speak on behalf of the entire division

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  @A_Bit_of_Thought2 ай бұрын

  @@mcraft8861 ...and special thanks to Mr. Cnagorka for showing us the restoration work being done to this spectacular musical instrument as a whole.

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  @nicholas_scott2 ай бұрын

  The old Estey we have installed has a switch stack to handle all the couplers, all crammed into the chest, so its nightmarish to work on!