Great video! 👍 Explained very well. I'm sure not many power master units got this service done in their TR's...
@morrisw72272 ай бұрын
how to remove clamp would be helpful.
@Joe-by5gd2 ай бұрын
Do you rebuild units, mine just failed the
@Joe-by5gd2 ай бұрын
Do you rebuild units, my just failed?
@brianperkins61214 ай бұрын
its very important to mantain this hidden filter , if it gets clogged it the fuel pressure regulater will not be able to release excess presure at idle and your engine will run rich and idle poorly , its also hard on the fuel pump to work aganst this extra pressure build up.. I have seen issues where the liner of old fuel line will deteriate and release plastizers into the fuel system that will both plug up this return filter. there is also very fine screen on the inlet of the fuel pump which will cause low presure and fuel flow to the injectors if its plugged,, if you are having runabilty issues on an e-tec allways check the fuel pressue on the injecter rails.. if its high its likly this filter is plugged , the fuel presure relief regulator opens under excess presure and flows the eccess pressure back through this filter..if its plugged it cant do this ..
@charlesjones272 Жыл бұрын
Awesome info! How did you clear the gunk from the pump?
@gtxhunter Жыл бұрын
How do you remove the vst from the mount?
@SunikaSKVR Жыл бұрын
What do you do if the motor is just bad?
@SunikaSKVR Жыл бұрын
Thank you for such in depth videos and explanations. My brake motor seems to have seized. Gonna be taking off tomorrow and seeing if I can get it to work. Already checked the relays and it’s getting power, I’m Not sure why the fuse blew if I had the battery disconnected, but the fuse blew and now the motor is t running. Thanks again man, these videos are awesome!
@SunikaSKVR Жыл бұрын
Really love the videos… mine gets power but doesn’t turn at all. Trying to see what I can do to get it running again.
@Brad-id7ge2 жыл бұрын
Just changed mine and the whole end was melted.. looks like previous owner never inspected it..
@onoahimahi5 ай бұрын
What were your symptoms? I have never changed mine of a pair of 200 HOs and they still run great. Would it affect fuel efficiency?
@royc76832 жыл бұрын
Ok watched your vids, thx so much for the sharing! I just installed a new accumulator ball & pressure switch. Of Cours de pressurizing the system properly. I re-pressurized the ball turn the ignition on with new fresh fluid going into it and check for leaks there are no leaks anywhere also before whenever I hit the brakes the brake light would come on and if I slammed on the brakes hard it would feel like I’m stepping on a brick it would not break right away but then the pedal will go down. Today the next day I took your advice turn ignition on I press the brake pedal three times the motor ran for six seconds then shut off and I waited and waited and waited for more than 33 minutes the motor never came on again and I mean I stood there and waited honestly.
@ClockFixer2 жыл бұрын
I guess new parts aren't available?
@ClockFixer2 жыл бұрын
Powermaster JUNK
@royc76832 жыл бұрын
“The rest of us” - that’s me
@moneypit96062 жыл бұрын
Good for you! It's another thing that makes these cars unique, and if you take care of them they work well.
@raulgutierrez53542 жыл бұрын
Great info, do you know where to get a master cylinder o-ring kit from and the pump rebuild kit? Kirban doesn’t offer it’s anymore.
@royc76832 жыл бұрын
Where did you get those re-routing lines or did you make them?
@royc76832 жыл бұрын
Who’s rebuilding your other unit? Who did you send it out to?
@michaelricciuto99683 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this is a very poor video. Use two people maybe it would be worth while.
@joeshwetz59013 жыл бұрын
Dude you have fuel in your cooling side of your vst , not good ! Needs to be repaired
@getthenetfishing71302 жыл бұрын
what is the repair options new seperator?
@doolittlegeorge3 жыл бұрын
Need to lube up the float for starters.
@closetpicker3 жыл бұрын
Great tip! Thanks!
@ayhankucukozer14783 жыл бұрын
enverude i tec 60 hp 2012 model. Electricity comes on in one of the ignition coil when the contact is open .. I have moved the coils but it gives the same error again .. What can I do. If you have, could you please send me the service manual .. I think ecu is out of order .. I wish you good day .. [email protected]
@CCMCJONESEK3 жыл бұрын
7 years later but exactly what I was looking for
@EluderRacing3 жыл бұрын
good video nice job and explanation!! you mentioned that you are testing units? do you have reconditioned units for sale?
@moneypit96062 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I suck at making videos, but I'm glad it was useful to you. As of 10-19-21 I am not selling any Powermaster units.
@chicagoslick3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever come up with a fix? What did you do that was "unsafe"? I'm having that issue and probably will tear my system down this winter. I have a spare used pump and motor that failed for me back in 1995. I was told failed and it cost me about 1k back then to get it fixed. Tempted to buy a whole new setup from Kirban just to have as a spare. Thanks in advance for any additional help you can share. Great job by the way!!!
@luisg26664 жыл бұрын
my break pedal goes to floor...after i pump breaks it goes back to normal but the second i take pressure off pedal it goes back to floorboard. my car is an 87 GN. need help diagnosing problem
@Millerman57 Жыл бұрын
What ended up being the issue ? Accumulator ball ?
@jayinla814 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@tomyocom58864 жыл бұрын
Love and appreciate your videos! I have a question about the pin that pushes into the unit from the Pedal's side of things. It has a snap ring that goes into the master cylinder. What receives it. Mine comes out , with the warn snap ring. suggestions. I do have a photo if I can send to you some how...thx
@moneypit96064 жыл бұрын
The pin (rod) should have a plastic split ring on the end that goes in the master cylinder. (Like a ball/socket) It is designed that way so you could give a quick yank on the master cylinder to remove the power master from the car. If your Rod that attaches to your pedal just falls out of the master cylinder, then more than likely your plastic split ring is worn...or missing?
@b6edition4414 жыл бұрын
Glad you made this video to help people understand a possible issue and fix on the powermaster.
@b6edition4414 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. Im looking forward to viewing your next part on this subject.
@jdgreen2144 жыл бұрын
I have been walking the line as to what I want to do with the powermaster. I have a 74k grandnational had it since January 2019 and drove it for about 9 months no issue. I'm getting a restoration on it right now. We are gonna replace the accumilator and I was thinking of going with the hydroboost system as people say the powermaster will fail unexpectedly and without warning. You have given me what sign to listen for in a failing powermaster system. I thank you sir.
@troybeans344 жыл бұрын
Delete the water line system I did say it suppose to cool the fuel but more like heat the fuel. Other outboard dont have them anyway.
@doolittlegeorge3 жыл бұрын
Needs to do a pressure test of the coil.
@ohiojawbreakerfishing93654 жыл бұрын
Where can I get the filter at.
@moneypit96064 жыл бұрын
You can get it any evinrude dealer
@christophergalindo32594 жыл бұрын
We’re you ever able to diagnose the problem? I have the exact same thing going on with a evinrude 115.
@domenicolacava23954 жыл бұрын
Ciao, come hai risolto il problema dell'olio nel filtro aria?. Ho lo stesso problema, per cortesia fammi sapere.Grazie
@gladson93434 жыл бұрын
friend help me, my EMM of my evinrude etec 250hp is with warm light, i will do as it is in your video to see if i solve the problem. Did it work for you?
@myraret4 жыл бұрын
My VST (vapor separater tank) failed and I had water in my gas and gas in my water....they were mixing but not causing a overheat issue. You may need to replace your thermostats and check the water lines to EMM and see if water is going through them. I believe I have another video where I used clear line to check for water flow.
@myraret4 жыл бұрын
This was an informational video showing that repairs "might" possibly be made to the motor/pump unit. For years we have been told that if the motor / pump does not work, to just buy a new one. Now that all the new motors are all gone, we need an alternative to keep these units running. ( if you do find a new pump/motor that someone has been hoarding...it will cost you between $400-$500, and then at some point in the future, you may STILL end up having the same problem this one does. ) I am merely trying to educate people on these unique braking systems, and hopefully I will come up with better solutions that will make these units live longer, with less failures.
@ct87gn254 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure you can send it to Dennis Kirban. Believe he sells new ones..........
@myraret4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, however this was more of an informational video showing that repairs "might" possibly be made to the motor/pump unit. For years we have been told that if the motor / pump does not work, to just buy a new one. Now that all the new motors are all gone, we need an alternative to keep these units running. ( if you do find a new pump/motor that someone has been hoarding...it will you cost between $400-$500, and then at some point in the future, you will STILL end up having the same problem this one does. ) By the way, Kirbin just sends old core units out for repairs, quite a few are returned for ANOTHER repair if the owner was lucky enough not to die in a car crash after the unit failed again. I am merely trying to educate people on these unique brake systems, and hopefully I will come up with better solutions that will make the units live longer, with less failures..
@benweisman48395 жыл бұрын
What kind of running problems would you expect to see if it is plugged up?
@tunerguy953 жыл бұрын
Rough idle
@seangreene645 жыл бұрын
That’s the auto storage mode. Ha ha. Oil pump stuck on to full bleed
@jordancraig554 Жыл бұрын
How do you stop it ?
@Sunasia5 жыл бұрын
can you tell me where you got them from
@Kobboss5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the posts
@Kobboss5 жыл бұрын
Is that easy to change out? And is it expensive for a new vst
@moneypit96065 жыл бұрын
The VST cost $340 in 2014. It was a lot easier to replace than to purchase....
@LifesAdventures5555 жыл бұрын
would have been nice if you had explained what you were doing and why.
@BillSr.4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@jaymacklin83035 жыл бұрын
Did it work?
@supernovaa3135 жыл бұрын
Where did you get those mirrors
@brianperkins61216 жыл бұрын
an issue with the oil injection pump allowing free flow of oil or unnatural pressure build up in the oil storage tank forcing oil through the pump when it should not flowing ?
@Crabawizky6 жыл бұрын
Dude it will never run with that seperator now
@82TRoadster6 жыл бұрын
I have done this with limeaway and restore plus. Unfortunately, my ect/eot deltas rise after a few months of driving.
@RuthlessK96 жыл бұрын
I just watched several of your Etec videos but they have me a little concerned. I just traded up from my 2000 Ficht motor and now have an 08 Etec 225. I'm already looking at an EMM replacement because the batteries aren't charging. Have you had a lot of issues with your 2011? Also, I bypassed the VST on my old FICHT and it ran great for years. Did you run yours for any length of time bypassed?
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Great video! 👍 Explained very well. I'm sure not many power master units got this service done in their TR's...
how to remove clamp would be helpful.
Do you rebuild units, mine just failed the
Do you rebuild units, my just failed?
its very important to mantain this hidden filter , if it gets clogged it the fuel pressure regulater will not be able to release excess presure at idle and your engine will run rich and idle poorly , its also hard on the fuel pump to work aganst this extra pressure build up.. I have seen issues where the liner of old fuel line will deteriate and release plastizers into the fuel system that will both plug up this return filter. there is also very fine screen on the inlet of the fuel pump which will cause low presure and fuel flow to the injectors if its plugged,, if you are having runabilty issues on an e-tec allways check the fuel pressue on the injecter rails.. if its high its likly this filter is plugged , the fuel presure relief regulator opens under excess presure and flows the eccess pressure back through this filter..if its plugged it cant do this ..
Awesome info! How did you clear the gunk from the pump?
How do you remove the vst from the mount?
What do you do if the motor is just bad?
Thank you for such in depth videos and explanations. My brake motor seems to have seized. Gonna be taking off tomorrow and seeing if I can get it to work. Already checked the relays and it’s getting power, I’m Not sure why the fuse blew if I had the battery disconnected, but the fuse blew and now the motor is t running. Thanks again man, these videos are awesome!
Really love the videos… mine gets power but doesn’t turn at all. Trying to see what I can do to get it running again.
Just changed mine and the whole end was melted.. looks like previous owner never inspected it..
What were your symptoms? I have never changed mine of a pair of 200 HOs and they still run great. Would it affect fuel efficiency?
Ok watched your vids, thx so much for the sharing! I just installed a new accumulator ball & pressure switch. Of Cours de pressurizing the system properly. I re-pressurized the ball turn the ignition on with new fresh fluid going into it and check for leaks there are no leaks anywhere also before whenever I hit the brakes the brake light would come on and if I slammed on the brakes hard it would feel like I’m stepping on a brick it would not break right away but then the pedal will go down. Today the next day I took your advice turn ignition on I press the brake pedal three times the motor ran for six seconds then shut off and I waited and waited and waited for more than 33 minutes the motor never came on again and I mean I stood there and waited honestly.
I guess new parts aren't available?
Powermaster JUNK
“The rest of us” - that’s me
Good for you! It's another thing that makes these cars unique, and if you take care of them they work well.
Great info, do you know where to get a master cylinder o-ring kit from and the pump rebuild kit? Kirban doesn’t offer it’s anymore.
Where did you get those re-routing lines or did you make them?
Who’s rebuilding your other unit? Who did you send it out to?
Unfortunately this is a very poor video. Use two people maybe it would be worth while.
Dude you have fuel in your cooling side of your vst , not good ! Needs to be repaired
what is the repair options new seperator?
Need to lube up the float for starters.
Great tip! Thanks!
enverude i tec 60 hp 2012 model. Electricity comes on in one of the ignition coil when the contact is open .. I have moved the coils but it gives the same error again .. What can I do. If you have, could you please send me the service manual .. I think ecu is out of order .. I wish you good day .. [email protected]
7 years later but exactly what I was looking for
good video nice job and explanation!! you mentioned that you are testing units? do you have reconditioned units for sale?
Thanks. I suck at making videos, but I'm glad it was useful to you. As of 10-19-21 I am not selling any Powermaster units.
Did you ever come up with a fix? What did you do that was "unsafe"? I'm having that issue and probably will tear my system down this winter. I have a spare used pump and motor that failed for me back in 1995. I was told failed and it cost me about 1k back then to get it fixed. Tempted to buy a whole new setup from Kirban just to have as a spare. Thanks in advance for any additional help you can share. Great job by the way!!!
my break pedal goes to floor...after i pump breaks it goes back to normal but the second i take pressure off pedal it goes back to floorboard. my car is an 87 GN. need help diagnosing problem
What ended up being the issue ? Accumulator ball ?
Excellent video
Love and appreciate your videos! I have a question about the pin that pushes into the unit from the Pedal's side of things. It has a snap ring that goes into the master cylinder. What receives it. Mine comes out , with the warn snap ring. suggestions. I do have a photo if I can send to you some how...thx
The pin (rod) should have a plastic split ring on the end that goes in the master cylinder. (Like a ball/socket) It is designed that way so you could give a quick yank on the master cylinder to remove the power master from the car. If your Rod that attaches to your pedal just falls out of the master cylinder, then more than likely your plastic split ring is worn...or missing?
Glad you made this video to help people understand a possible issue and fix on the powermaster.
Thanks for making this video. Im looking forward to viewing your next part on this subject.
I have been walking the line as to what I want to do with the powermaster. I have a 74k grandnational had it since January 2019 and drove it for about 9 months no issue. I'm getting a restoration on it right now. We are gonna replace the accumilator and I was thinking of going with the hydroboost system as people say the powermaster will fail unexpectedly and without warning. You have given me what sign to listen for in a failing powermaster system. I thank you sir.
Delete the water line system I did say it suppose to cool the fuel but more like heat the fuel. Other outboard dont have them anyway.
Needs to do a pressure test of the coil.
Where can I get the filter at.
You can get it any evinrude dealer
We’re you ever able to diagnose the problem? I have the exact same thing going on with a evinrude 115.
Ciao, come hai risolto il problema dell'olio nel filtro aria?. Ho lo stesso problema, per cortesia fammi sapere.Grazie
friend help me, my EMM of my evinrude etec 250hp is with warm light, i will do as it is in your video to see if i solve the problem. Did it work for you?
My VST (vapor separater tank) failed and I had water in my gas and gas in my water....they were mixing but not causing a overheat issue. You may need to replace your thermostats and check the water lines to EMM and see if water is going through them. I believe I have another video where I used clear line to check for water flow.
This was an informational video showing that repairs "might" possibly be made to the motor/pump unit. For years we have been told that if the motor / pump does not work, to just buy a new one. Now that all the new motors are all gone, we need an alternative to keep these units running. ( if you do find a new pump/motor that someone has been hoarding...it will cost you between $400-$500, and then at some point in the future, you may STILL end up having the same problem this one does. ) I am merely trying to educate people on these unique braking systems, and hopefully I will come up with better solutions that will make these units live longer, with less failures.
Pretty sure you can send it to Dennis Kirban. Believe he sells new ones..........
Thanks, however this was more of an informational video showing that repairs "might" possibly be made to the motor/pump unit. For years we have been told that if the motor / pump does not work, to just buy a new one. Now that all the new motors are all gone, we need an alternative to keep these units running. ( if you do find a new pump/motor that someone has been hoarding...it will you cost between $400-$500, and then at some point in the future, you will STILL end up having the same problem this one does. ) By the way, Kirbin just sends old core units out for repairs, quite a few are returned for ANOTHER repair if the owner was lucky enough not to die in a car crash after the unit failed again. I am merely trying to educate people on these unique brake systems, and hopefully I will come up with better solutions that will make the units live longer, with less failures..
What kind of running problems would you expect to see if it is plugged up?
Rough idle
That’s the auto storage mode. Ha ha. Oil pump stuck on to full bleed
How do you stop it ?
can you tell me where you got them from
Thanks for the posts
Is that easy to change out? And is it expensive for a new vst
The VST cost $340 in 2014. It was a lot easier to replace than to purchase....
would have been nice if you had explained what you were doing and why.
I agree
Did it work?
Where did you get those mirrors
an issue with the oil injection pump allowing free flow of oil or unnatural pressure build up in the oil storage tank forcing oil through the pump when it should not flowing ?
Dude it will never run with that seperator now
I have done this with limeaway and restore plus. Unfortunately, my ect/eot deltas rise after a few months of driving.
I just watched several of your Etec videos but they have me a little concerned. I just traded up from my 2000 Ficht motor and now have an 08 Etec 225. I'm already looking at an EMM replacement because the batteries aren't charging. Have you had a lot of issues with your 2011? Also, I bypassed the VST on my old FICHT and it ran great for years. Did you run yours for any length of time bypassed?