Canucks gave up a first and second to get Hronek. A rare right hander . Lindholm, too expensive.
@CaseyYamАй бұрын
If Hronek does come back (ideally at a reasonable cap hit), he's going to need some media training and some serious PR rehab (ie Canucks in Cars, pre-scripted interviews).
@CaseyYamАй бұрын
Hromek?
@christhornycroft3686Ай бұрын
The real question is, are the Canucks better off getting a top 6 winger for Pettersson, bringing back Zadorov and Joshua, and signing Pesce for Quinn Hughes? 8x8 for a guy who says he wasn't injured but was invisible in the 2nd half and the playoffs is pretty rich. I'd rather pay 5x5 or 5x6 to Zadorov, who is physical and a playoff performer and save the 2-3 million towards plugging another hole in the lineup.
@andrewjensen8189Ай бұрын
Stop taking aderal
@CaseyYamАй бұрын
Super happy with the season overall. Predicting big moves and big progress moving forward.
@darnelltate9488Ай бұрын
Promo SM 👉
@CaseyYam3 ай бұрын
I'm happy to hear that the Canucks finally locked down Petey! On a reasonable amount! Thought I was misreading the amount when I woke up today because I was pretty sure he would be signing for 12+ m / year. This is night and day different from the previous FO group.
@happymann10004 ай бұрын
Mangiapane has not played one game as good as he played in his contract year. He signed and does not put in the work to reach his contract level. I think it does not matter what happens with the rest of the team. Mangiapane needs to go take his lack luster effort to another team or a major discount. Perhaps 3mil/year on 2 year contracts.
@carolbovenlander41084 ай бұрын
The Canucks pay too much let's go for the cup
@R.R.chandar7 ай бұрын
Lol half of the Calgary Flames are ex Canucks players
@mvd44367 ай бұрын
The Canucks were under acheivers for the last 2 years minimum. But now that they are doing good, the haters are back. They bring up this PDO bullshit to completely disregard our team. Whens the last time a fancy stat was trotted out to shoot down a team playing well
@susangriffith266311 ай бұрын
😃 promo sm
@BobSaxon-ou7ww11 ай бұрын
If a player dies while an player is active on the roster the number should be retired.
@PainBreadzky Жыл бұрын
Let’s just bring back sutter for crying out loud.
@deviusprojects Жыл бұрын
Yes they will.
@crazyirish22 Жыл бұрын
And they did indeed ☺️
@dylanjohnson505 Жыл бұрын
Kevin talks about goaltender interference and “Ryan Getzlaf” run into Talbot… let me correct that. That was Ryan Kesler holding Talbots pad as Rickard Rakell (on his birthday) scores with like 16 secs left in a 3 goal comeback in 3 minutes 16 seconds in game 5- often referred to as “Comeback On Katella”. Now let me be clear, as a ducks fan I do not believe that should have counted, but I’ll take it. That was a wild moment. Oilers also had a whole overtime and a half to win, unfortunately for them, Matt Benning coughed up the puck to Getzlaf and he gave it cross crease to Perry to finish the game. Hopefully this helps clear things up. P.S Kevin, I dunno if you mixed up “Ryan’s” or because it involved Rickard Rakell that you didn’t remember correctly, but I forgive you either way😂
@hubrisgaming8307 Жыл бұрын
One of the worst trades in canucks history. Jim benning really screwed this team
@csquared2458 Жыл бұрын
Beat oilers check
@rexwill775 Жыл бұрын
Horrible thumb nail
@truthspeakerlive Жыл бұрын
I completely disagree with Sean. 1) Kadri did put up ppg in his lockout season in Toronto so he obviously has that potential. 2) The role he played in Toronto was unique as a 3rd line shut down center putting up back to back 30 goal seasons. He wasn't even given top minutes. 3) He is a playoff ppg player which is more important I think Kadri has the potential to put up 80 pts + assuming he doesn't get injured I think Kadri will get close to 80. I honestly think it depends on his role in Calgary. Also he has surpassed Lindholm in terms of career best in points. Last thing I'll say is yes, Colorado was an offensive juggernaut, however, Kadri was a big reason of that. He led team in assists for a long time while Mackinnon, Landy, etc missed a big chunk of the season. Imo, Avs couldn't have won the Stanley cup without Kadri. But he has the potential to reach 100 points, this depends on the coaching staff uses him.
@ShiftsandPucks Жыл бұрын
Yes, in the shortened 2012-13 season Kadri produced at a 0.92 Pts/GP rate, I missed that. Kadri played on a more offensive minded team in Colorado last season, and got a lot of time on the top line when Mackinnon was injured. Darryl and the Flames will be focused on defense first. I'm not sure Kadri will get the same strength of line mates he had last season and is going to be playing a 2nd line role 5 on 5. I think he's going to be a very useful player and putting up 60+ points as a 2nd liner is very good production. - Sean
@danquarterman Жыл бұрын
I"m okay with JT getting the length just cuz he's a BEAST in the same way OVI is a beast, and will likely play great hockey right to the end of it. He's that guy...
@mikehunt4384 Жыл бұрын
Dube - kadri- mang
@gordonsbragg2292 Жыл бұрын
Dan....Fucking! Your trying to get fan's behind you? Dan, have fun!
@Sean-bf3lh Жыл бұрын
As a flames fan id rather have huberdeau and kadri who produce in playoffs and in regular season a dozen or 2 less pointts than not produce in playoffs
@richardferguson6893 Жыл бұрын
The deadline for any sort of decent return was the draft.
@glenfisher6396 Жыл бұрын
Dube has more offensive up side then Coleman. His break out season is coming. Also I think we should keep Lucic. We will need his toughness when playing teams like EDM. Zadorov can't handle Kane and Kassian. We already lost Gudbranson
@coopjmz Жыл бұрын
The Oilers traded Kassian to the Coyotes during the draft in June. But I'm sure they'll find someone else to be annoying in his absence.
@richardferguson6893 Жыл бұрын
Said it elsewhere: not even close to being a Flames fan but Tree has to be an early front runner for GM Of The Year.
@scottdriscoll2333 Жыл бұрын
Disagree , I think they need a leader to hold the team together personally .
@nietzschescodes Жыл бұрын
Gaudreau and Tkachuk for Hubderdeau and Weegar. Looks like the Flames are weaker now if they don't get Kadri.
@JasonSmith-pe5py Жыл бұрын
Not saying a whole lot...your defense was your biggest issue last yr. It's why I picked Edmonton to upset you,(though I didn't think it'd be in 5)-& lose to my Avs. Your defense lack of skating ability got badly exposed vs Edmonton. It's still not good enough.
@richardferguson6893 Жыл бұрын
To be honest I don't have much faith that anything will change. None of these changes would be happening if these cases hadn't come to light. HC clearly thought it was better to treat the symptoms rather than look at the root of the problem.
@johnhein4851 Жыл бұрын
Well considering that he just got Huberdeau, Weegar a prospect and first round pick I'd say yeah baby!
@gregmadore6365 Жыл бұрын
💯
@gregmadore6365 Жыл бұрын
As a flames fan I'm so excited about this trade and would take him over Tkachuk and Gaudreau any day and props to Tkachuk for the way he handled it 👏
@sidpitter Жыл бұрын
Yes
@mattblom3990 Жыл бұрын
Shout out to Devin for mentioning the 2003 draft. As a 1985 birth myself, I'm proud we're the best "standard" draft that ever existed. My kin built spine of the NHL for 15 years.
@JasonSmith-pe5py Жыл бұрын
If I'm Calgary,I'm not trading him for somebody like Tarasenko,with 1 yr left. Who knows if it's true,but I heard Calgary may have turned down Robert Thomas,Krug,& a few picks-maybe to keep from trading him within the west. I do think you factor that in-but you don't completely rule it out-you take the best deal. If it's close-im moving him East. As Colorado fan-I hope you do trade him East,but if I'm Calgary-thats the kind of deal I'm looking for. As long as at least 1 of the picks is 1st rounder-maybe you'd want 2 even. But a good young player like Thomas-whos over 1 pt per game last yr,& signed for 7 or 8 yrs,so he can't just leave-like Tarasenlo could. But tough spot to be in-I do feel for Flame fans. Amazing how quickly things changed,after you won game 1 vs Edmonton 9-6. Seems like everything fell apart since that after that game. Could be worse,like WPG-with 3 selfish cancers as your "leaders"-like Scheflie,Wheeler,& Dubois. But other than Jet fans,I feel more for Flame fans,than probably any fan base right now.
@AvsFan32 Жыл бұрын
He makes it looks so easy.
@JasonSmith-pe5py Жыл бұрын
Ya without Gudreau-Flames aren't a top tier Cup contender anymore. Ya kinda weren't last yr. I thought ya were in reg season,but I did say your over rated,kinda slow blueline would be your undoing-especially if you faced my Avs. Turns out,it didn't even take facing the Avs...the Oilers 4 man team (or 5 I guess-Mcdavid,Drasaitil,Kane,Nuge,& Hyman)-torched that slow blueline.Now without Johnny-no way that team is top tier even in the West. Maybe a playoff team,cuz Sutter is such a good coach. But that roster as it sits today ain't winning 3 rounds even in the inferior west,unless Markstrom morphed into Patrick Roy foe 2 months,& even then...
@SuperKayzi2 жыл бұрын
It's okay, a lot of us want to be in the Bedard sweepstakes lol
@nickh3698 Жыл бұрын
I'm okay with it, too.
@davidlyons62352 жыл бұрын
How many of Makar's comparables had a McDavid type player and did they do as well as Makar did against them?
@mcdeeze10452 жыл бұрын
No thx… Bear is another 7th defencemen that both Carolina and Edmonton gave up on him… already have Myers, poolman, Schenn, Rathbone….
@Scott-tv4pb2 жыл бұрын
In today's hockey game, everyone can skate. You cant skate you dont play. And Makar is embarrassing people getting around them as a D man. These old school players would get walked by Makar.
@eliasweide73392 жыл бұрын
Reilly Smith and the Golden Knights have a verbal contract agreement. just hasnt been announced/released
@eliasweide73392 жыл бұрын
3 years, 5AAV ^ per Frank Seravalli
@TWISTEDSUNRISEKI2 жыл бұрын
Yes they should
@richardferguson68932 жыл бұрын
I find it absolutely staggering that Hockey Canada doesn't even know who was involved. Keep the victims name private but whoever was involved with this needs to be named. Unacceptable.
@JeremiahAKAtheSportsBeard2 жыл бұрын
Never saw Orr in real life, but I agree if Avs win the cup going to be hard to NOT make the argument that Makar is one of the greatest D men since him especially at his age. Never seen anything like it in my hockey watching career.
@roberteaston6413 Жыл бұрын
When Bobby Orr broke into hockey not all NHL games were put on film. This was especially true in non-hockey markets such as Oakland or Los Angeles. The result is that some of Orr's greatest plays are forever lost to us. The difference between Orr and Makar is that people knew from a young age is that Orr was going to be a great player. With Makar it took a while for him to be the great player that he is. Nobody spotted Makar at age 12 and said that he was going to be the best defenceman in the NHL someday.
@JeremiahAKAtheSportsBeard2 жыл бұрын
Have to disagree with Devin, Willie Nylander maybe the player the Leafs trade, but he's played well in the playoffs. They will sign Husso I believe. Also I believe they already have resigned Gio. I thought that was reported anyway.
@danashsm73372 жыл бұрын
rip guy Lafleur one of the greatest Montreal canadiens
@donbullo2 жыл бұрын
They should trade McDavid and Draisaitl against Chara and Patrick Marleau
@richardferguson68932 жыл бұрын
Crazy to think that Phil Kessel, once described as a "bag of milk" will probably take over the Iron(man) Throne.
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Canucks gave up a first and second to get Hronek. A rare right hander . Lindholm, too expensive.
If Hronek does come back (ideally at a reasonable cap hit), he's going to need some media training and some serious PR rehab (ie Canucks in Cars, pre-scripted interviews).
Hromek?
The real question is, are the Canucks better off getting a top 6 winger for Pettersson, bringing back Zadorov and Joshua, and signing Pesce for Quinn Hughes? 8x8 for a guy who says he wasn't injured but was invisible in the 2nd half and the playoffs is pretty rich. I'd rather pay 5x5 or 5x6 to Zadorov, who is physical and a playoff performer and save the 2-3 million towards plugging another hole in the lineup.
Stop taking aderal
Super happy with the season overall. Predicting big moves and big progress moving forward.
Promo SM 👉
I'm happy to hear that the Canucks finally locked down Petey! On a reasonable amount! Thought I was misreading the amount when I woke up today because I was pretty sure he would be signing for 12+ m / year. This is night and day different from the previous FO group.
Mangiapane has not played one game as good as he played in his contract year. He signed and does not put in the work to reach his contract level. I think it does not matter what happens with the rest of the team. Mangiapane needs to go take his lack luster effort to another team or a major discount. Perhaps 3mil/year on 2 year contracts.
The Canucks pay too much let's go for the cup
Lol half of the Calgary Flames are ex Canucks players
The Canucks were under acheivers for the last 2 years minimum. But now that they are doing good, the haters are back. They bring up this PDO bullshit to completely disregard our team. Whens the last time a fancy stat was trotted out to shoot down a team playing well
😃 promo sm
If a player dies while an player is active on the roster the number should be retired.
Let’s just bring back sutter for crying out loud.
Yes they will.
And they did indeed ☺️
Kevin talks about goaltender interference and “Ryan Getzlaf” run into Talbot… let me correct that. That was Ryan Kesler holding Talbots pad as Rickard Rakell (on his birthday) scores with like 16 secs left in a 3 goal comeback in 3 minutes 16 seconds in game 5- often referred to as “Comeback On Katella”. Now let me be clear, as a ducks fan I do not believe that should have counted, but I’ll take it. That was a wild moment. Oilers also had a whole overtime and a half to win, unfortunately for them, Matt Benning coughed up the puck to Getzlaf and he gave it cross crease to Perry to finish the game. Hopefully this helps clear things up. P.S Kevin, I dunno if you mixed up “Ryan’s” or because it involved Rickard Rakell that you didn’t remember correctly, but I forgive you either way😂
One of the worst trades in canucks history. Jim benning really screwed this team
Beat oilers check
Horrible thumb nail
I completely disagree with Sean. 1) Kadri did put up ppg in his lockout season in Toronto so he obviously has that potential. 2) The role he played in Toronto was unique as a 3rd line shut down center putting up back to back 30 goal seasons. He wasn't even given top minutes. 3) He is a playoff ppg player which is more important I think Kadri has the potential to put up 80 pts + assuming he doesn't get injured I think Kadri will get close to 80. I honestly think it depends on his role in Calgary. Also he has surpassed Lindholm in terms of career best in points. Last thing I'll say is yes, Colorado was an offensive juggernaut, however, Kadri was a big reason of that. He led team in assists for a long time while Mackinnon, Landy, etc missed a big chunk of the season. Imo, Avs couldn't have won the Stanley cup without Kadri. But he has the potential to reach 100 points, this depends on the coaching staff uses him.
Yes, in the shortened 2012-13 season Kadri produced at a 0.92 Pts/GP rate, I missed that. Kadri played on a more offensive minded team in Colorado last season, and got a lot of time on the top line when Mackinnon was injured. Darryl and the Flames will be focused on defense first. I'm not sure Kadri will get the same strength of line mates he had last season and is going to be playing a 2nd line role 5 on 5. I think he's going to be a very useful player and putting up 60+ points as a 2nd liner is very good production. - Sean
I"m okay with JT getting the length just cuz he's a BEAST in the same way OVI is a beast, and will likely play great hockey right to the end of it. He's that guy...
Dube - kadri- mang
Dan....Fucking! Your trying to get fan's behind you? Dan, have fun!
As a flames fan id rather have huberdeau and kadri who produce in playoffs and in regular season a dozen or 2 less pointts than not produce in playoffs
The deadline for any sort of decent return was the draft.
Dube has more offensive up side then Coleman. His break out season is coming. Also I think we should keep Lucic. We will need his toughness when playing teams like EDM. Zadorov can't handle Kane and Kassian. We already lost Gudbranson
The Oilers traded Kassian to the Coyotes during the draft in June. But I'm sure they'll find someone else to be annoying in his absence.
Said it elsewhere: not even close to being a Flames fan but Tree has to be an early front runner for GM Of The Year.
Disagree , I think they need a leader to hold the team together personally .
Gaudreau and Tkachuk for Hubderdeau and Weegar. Looks like the Flames are weaker now if they don't get Kadri.
Not saying a whole lot...your defense was your biggest issue last yr. It's why I picked Edmonton to upset you,(though I didn't think it'd be in 5)-& lose to my Avs. Your defense lack of skating ability got badly exposed vs Edmonton. It's still not good enough.
To be honest I don't have much faith that anything will change. None of these changes would be happening if these cases hadn't come to light. HC clearly thought it was better to treat the symptoms rather than look at the root of the problem.
Well considering that he just got Huberdeau, Weegar a prospect and first round pick I'd say yeah baby!
💯
As a flames fan I'm so excited about this trade and would take him over Tkachuk and Gaudreau any day and props to Tkachuk for the way he handled it 👏
Yes
Shout out to Devin for mentioning the 2003 draft. As a 1985 birth myself, I'm proud we're the best "standard" draft that ever existed. My kin built spine of the NHL for 15 years.
If I'm Calgary,I'm not trading him for somebody like Tarasenko,with 1 yr left. Who knows if it's true,but I heard Calgary may have turned down Robert Thomas,Krug,& a few picks-maybe to keep from trading him within the west. I do think you factor that in-but you don't completely rule it out-you take the best deal. If it's close-im moving him East. As Colorado fan-I hope you do trade him East,but if I'm Calgary-thats the kind of deal I'm looking for. As long as at least 1 of the picks is 1st rounder-maybe you'd want 2 even. But a good young player like Thomas-whos over 1 pt per game last yr,& signed for 7 or 8 yrs,so he can't just leave-like Tarasenlo could. But tough spot to be in-I do feel for Flame fans. Amazing how quickly things changed,after you won game 1 vs Edmonton 9-6. Seems like everything fell apart since that after that game. Could be worse,like WPG-with 3 selfish cancers as your "leaders"-like Scheflie,Wheeler,& Dubois. But other than Jet fans,I feel more for Flame fans,than probably any fan base right now.
He makes it looks so easy.
Ya without Gudreau-Flames aren't a top tier Cup contender anymore. Ya kinda weren't last yr. I thought ya were in reg season,but I did say your over rated,kinda slow blueline would be your undoing-especially if you faced my Avs. Turns out,it didn't even take facing the Avs...the Oilers 4 man team (or 5 I guess-Mcdavid,Drasaitil,Kane,Nuge,& Hyman)-torched that slow blueline.Now without Johnny-no way that team is top tier even in the West. Maybe a playoff team,cuz Sutter is such a good coach. But that roster as it sits today ain't winning 3 rounds even in the inferior west,unless Markstrom morphed into Patrick Roy foe 2 months,& even then...
It's okay, a lot of us want to be in the Bedard sweepstakes lol
I'm okay with it, too.
How many of Makar's comparables had a McDavid type player and did they do as well as Makar did against them?
No thx… Bear is another 7th defencemen that both Carolina and Edmonton gave up on him… already have Myers, poolman, Schenn, Rathbone….
In today's hockey game, everyone can skate. You cant skate you dont play. And Makar is embarrassing people getting around them as a D man. These old school players would get walked by Makar.
Reilly Smith and the Golden Knights have a verbal contract agreement. just hasnt been announced/released
3 years, 5AAV ^ per Frank Seravalli
Yes they should
I find it absolutely staggering that Hockey Canada doesn't even know who was involved. Keep the victims name private but whoever was involved with this needs to be named. Unacceptable.
Never saw Orr in real life, but I agree if Avs win the cup going to be hard to NOT make the argument that Makar is one of the greatest D men since him especially at his age. Never seen anything like it in my hockey watching career.
When Bobby Orr broke into hockey not all NHL games were put on film. This was especially true in non-hockey markets such as Oakland or Los Angeles. The result is that some of Orr's greatest plays are forever lost to us. The difference between Orr and Makar is that people knew from a young age is that Orr was going to be a great player. With Makar it took a while for him to be the great player that he is. Nobody spotted Makar at age 12 and said that he was going to be the best defenceman in the NHL someday.
Have to disagree with Devin, Willie Nylander maybe the player the Leafs trade, but he's played well in the playoffs. They will sign Husso I believe. Also I believe they already have resigned Gio. I thought that was reported anyway.
rip guy Lafleur one of the greatest Montreal canadiens
They should trade McDavid and Draisaitl against Chara and Patrick Marleau
Crazy to think that Phil Kessel, once described as a "bag of milk" will probably take over the Iron(man) Throne.