I am glad to have a rim brake supporter on KZread . Did you measure he actual width the tires ? I would not be surprised if they even were a bit more than 32 mm . Thanks, great info.
@bashconsole19 сағат бұрын
I would just replace tire.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad16 сағат бұрын
Yep that would be the smart thing to do. And that’s what I would have done personally butt on this channel I was testing different repair methods for you the viewers. Thanks for watching please consider subscribing
@jeffmorgenthal4019Күн бұрын
Hey George, it's Jeff the original Ritchey Break Away-er. The videos are good but remember the real intention of the Break Away is a travel bike. Any way you slice it, Packing the Break Away and building it for us bike repair novices is THE POINT of the bike. It's a huge ordeal when you're in a foreign country or hotel room in the boonies putting this thing together. A serious combination of Tetris-meets-wits and pray-you-don't-lose-a-single-bolt. Thats really the whole point of the Break Away. It took me years of bike travel to get to the Miyagi-level of wax-on Break Away master. PS for the record- Rolf Prima the absolute Worst wheels from years of experience, Peace and Love, Your bud Jeff
@rosomak8244Күн бұрын
I live so far up north that vitamin D deficiency is a thing :-).
@SeeYouUpTheRoadКүн бұрын
@@rosomak8244 ha ha!
@Orgakoyd2 күн бұрын
Really nice looking bikes. I'm wondering why you didn't go with a larger frame size? You'd have a longer head tube and be able to raise your bars even higher in the future and with less spacers. A slightly longer wheelbase would be a nice bonus on longer rides too. And you could easily use a shorter stem to make up for the longer top tube. I'm sure you know all of this and just prefer the smaller frame size. I get it, I just personally prefer longer and taller frames with less seat post and stem extension than the other way around.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad2 күн бұрын
I’m not sure I understand your comment - like seriously at all! I’m barely 5’9” or 175cm. The large frame is equivalent to a 55cm. I have very long legs for my height and a short torso. I race for years on 54cm frames with 120-140 head tubes and this Breakaway has a 170 head tube. I don’t need a taller head tube at all it’s too freaking tall as it is. I made a reference to my Paris Brest Paris experience but didn’t completely explain the fit on the bike. On my grey Road Logic I have a 160 HT and I cut the fork a decade ago with no spacers before I had ever thought I was going to do PBP. It was my group ride bike and no more than 100-150 mile bike. So that is why I had neck and shoulder pain in the last 200 km of a 1226 km event. I also said my longest ride was a 600km in April and the event was in August. I honestly have no clue what you’re talking about
@SeeYouUpTheRoad2 күн бұрын
The last thing I would ever do is is use a shorter stem. 120mm or longer makes the bike well balanced and very predictable in all situations especially descending. Again I have no clue what you’re talking about.
@Orgakoyd2 күн бұрын
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad My thoughts on your frame were based on what you show at 10:12 in the video. You say you've left extra steerer tube so you can raise your stem if you like later. It looks like about 10 mm of steerer tube left above the stem? My opinion is unless you'd like to also be able to lower your stem a bunch, which is valid, why have all the spacers under your stem? A larger frame size would mean less spacers with your current bar position, and the ability to raise your bars even more if you require in the future (not counting flipping the stem, which is also valid). Now if you feel strongly about a 120 mm stem that is a a limiting factor, which means you have to pick the frame size to work with your desired stem length. I personally have't had a issue with shorter stems.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad2 күн бұрын
@@Orgakoydthanks for watching please consider subscribing
@dsego842 күн бұрын
Watching this as I'm scraping the dried sealant off of my tubeless tire, ... the one about finding a better use of my time hit hard, not gonna lie :D Oh and had to replace a rim tape on one wheel, managed to mess it up the first time. Taking off the tire and putting it back on is a bitch.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad2 күн бұрын
@@dsego84 ha ha yep the set up can be a pain but the constant maintenance is what I I would rather spend my time doing something else. Because I ride a lot and I ride race tires for my daily tires I’m no longer scraping out old sealant. I just keep adding and I will wear out a tire and throw it away. Thanks for watching please consider subscribing
@AwesomeAngryBiker2 күн бұрын
ruined with ads, greedy
@SeeYouUpTheRoad2 күн бұрын
@@AwesomeAngryBiker sorry friend, but I have no control on how many ads KZread puts in my videos. But the ads is how KZreadrs make money. You should know this by now. So get over it or don’t watch KZread. 👌 Thanks for watching please consider subscribing. I keep it real on this channel.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad2 күн бұрын
Or you could pay for KZread premium.
@christopheryack5802 күн бұрын
I have a pair of Rolf Prima Vigors. Bought them 2 years ago when rim brake wheelsets were being blown out. They have White Industries hubs and everything is built in the USA. 2 years and no wheel truing. They really helped with my stiff aluminum frame. They are medium width...bout a 20 mm internal. They are aero...they are invisible to side winds. Not super stiff...but stiff enough. Somebody asked a Zipp engineer about paired spokes and he said the Rolf wheels are the only paired spokes that have real aero advantage because the paired spokes are close enough together that the leading spoke provides draft for the spoke behind it. If you can find a set on the cheap...well worth the investment.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad2 күн бұрын
Love your comment!
@ellerybice37872 күн бұрын
🚧 trail closed for filming 🚧🫡
@ellerybice37872 күн бұрын
Your riding friend was no Marine, eh? 🤷🏼♂️
@ellerybice37872 күн бұрын
🚴🏼🚴🏼🚴🏼🫡
@mmse882 күн бұрын
I have been watching your video 4 minutes and 31 seconds and you still talking? I think you’re talking too much my friend.😢
@SeeYouUpTheRoad2 күн бұрын
I’m not sure what you’re “complaining” about. Every THING I am saying is vital information so you don’t screw it up - in an irreversible way. This is not a video of me cutting a fork. It’s titled properly that you should watch this before cutting your fork. FYI- this is not a “how to” channel. You will rarely see me actually doing a repair on this channel because I believe it’s more important to know “why” you do something than “how” Thanks for watching please consider subscribing.
@skinnie882 күн бұрын
I just found an almost as new carbon ti breakaway this year.Fortunately had a friend getting it me from USA to France. From my research with web archive and old catalogs they were produced from 2006 to 2016. I had mine build with shimano ultegra 2x11 mechanical, campy wto’s 45. What a joy to ride ! Right now I am running 28mmm gp5000 but I willl test 30mm tyres. I believe with the right calipers the frame could even fit larger tyres . If you have the chance to try let us know, because I think no one did it yet Can’t wait the day you get a cross breakaway on the Chanel , either steel or titanium
@SeeYouUpTheRoad2 күн бұрын
Wow congrats! I hope to see a cross breakaway! The Gravel Cyclist has one on his channel.
@chaahmongcyclist10662 күн бұрын
I have used those GP4000 with the reflective! Bads, it peels and the sewn threads will come off and wrap around your hub/quick release 🧵 🛞.. I may have a spare I kept in the box just for memory.. I also have the GP5000 all seasons tubeless. It does have a more welded-on reflective strip. So far it does not peel. It is not as reflective.. I do use it for double century and it helps once you’re at night or dark hours.. too bad they don’t make em no more.
@lenkomsa45212 күн бұрын
Titanium road breakaway😍 man that bike is sweet! Great video thanks George
@SeeYouUpTheRoad2 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching Len
@rogerremnant16013 күн бұрын
🙂
@rodjonsson8133 күн бұрын
Wow a Ti break-away. I wanted the canti-cross for my break-away but there were none for sale. Fun to geek out a bit on bike stuff. Another option I have used is a Pika Packworks case for regular bike. Packing and assembly are more straightforward and it will fit into the trunk or backseat of a compact. Overall less $s to travel. Also wrt travel: rim brake >> disk brake, tubes >> tubeless, forged metal >> cf. Each of these better things is less $s.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad3 күн бұрын
That case looks cool. I had never heard of it until today
@MrSandperson03 күн бұрын
I've always wondered about Rolf wheels since they seem to have a low spoke count..and even stranger to have so few on the rear wheel. Aaaaannnnd.....can you do a video about hidden vs exposed nipples? Please show as many examples as possible 😍😝
@SeeYouUpTheRoad3 күн бұрын
Ha ha I did make a video way back about how much disdain I have to hidden nipples :-)
@In_Libris_Libertas3 күн бұрын
Great demonstration of a nicely designed bike rack, very similar to my old 90s Sport Worx two bike rack which I am still using. Do you know if the strap that holds the rear wheel were to break is the unit replaceable? Thanks. Beautiful bikes btw!
@SeeYouUpTheRoad3 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! Yes everything is replaceable. But that strap is a high quality rubber. It might only break from misuse or abuse. Please consider subscribing
@In_Libris_Libertas3 күн бұрын
Thank you for the info. Just subscribed to your channel. You guys seem to make a great team. Rock on, Ride on!✌️@@SeeYouUpTheRoad
@mathieublandin52313 күн бұрын
Nice bike!
@SeeYouUpTheRoad3 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching Mathieu
@simoneberardozzi28433 күн бұрын
Hi George, I am a fan of you content please keep going! I find it really unfortunate that the reach on Ritchey road frames is always very long compared to the relative size of the bike. I am 1.90m tall but with a relative short torso and I find the geometry always very long on the top tube but way too short on the seat tube
@SeeYouUpTheRoad3 күн бұрын
@@simoneberardozzi2843 thanks for watching and thanks for the compliment. Tom Ritchey does not make endurance bikes. He was a former racer and his bike geometry reflects that heritage. Personally, I’m on a 55cm I love the geometry! It’s perfect! A 160mm Head tube which taller than any of race bikes I ever had. In fact, my Felt F1 had 120mm head tube. Ritchey - 568mm stack My Bianchi XR4 - 140 HT / 545mm stack The reach at 395mm is perfect so that I can run 120mm and have fantastic weight distribution and descend properly fast with great balance. Bianchi XR4 - 390mm Head and seat tube angles at 73.5 degrees - that’s perfect again. Bianchi 72.5 HT angle 73.5 seat tube angle The chainstays are not too short at 415 mm but not too long which adds stability to the bike. My Bianchi XR4 -410mm I am 5’9” with long legs and a short torso. If you can’t ride a Ritchey it’s not the end of the world- well maybe it is. But there are many bikes out there and there’s always custom. Or maybe when the new Montebello is available maybe we can chat about the geometry. It’s going to be taller in the front end. I wouldn’t want the Road Logic to get taller and shorter that would be a travesty!
@simoneberardozzi28433 күн бұрын
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad in fact the “problem” here is my body measurements and to be able to fit properly on a bike. I have had Canyons and BMCs and in order to fit them I had to install short stems which really ruined the ride quality and the balance on the bike. Once I went custom geometry with a Casati XCR Gravel frameset and a Bixxis (Doriano De Rosa) road titanium bike I can finally have a bike which fits me, drives amazingly and the feel of these frames is really unique (steel is smooth while titanium in much more direct but not jarring). I can fit nice 120/130mm stems, almost no spacers under the stem and they look amazing. The drawback is the cost compared to a standard geometry frameset but I would spend again those money
@n22pdf3 күн бұрын
Nice build George.. 😊 Pete 🚴♀️🚴🏻👍
@SeeYouUpTheRoad3 күн бұрын
Thanks 👍 Pete!
@jayobannon53594 күн бұрын
Eugene
@SeeYouUpTheRoad3 күн бұрын
ah yes that's it!
@jayobannon53594 күн бұрын
I really enjoy Rolf Wheels
@mr.rodriguez35124 күн бұрын
Hi..... Talking about seatpost insertion. Ritchey's short seatpost is 350mm, when inserted it pass way more where you pointed. Should it be cut?
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
Weight weenies cut seatposts 😊 only time I ever cut a seatpost was to insert it all the way in for my 8 year old son to fit on my tandem. 😊
@mr.rodriguez35124 күн бұрын
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad I asked because on my Schwinn Paramount I have an Ultegra seatpost 200 or 250mm long, and when I bought the Ritchey seatpost it was curious for me. But it still uncut though. Now, I think the weight weenies are specimens in danger of extinction.....nowadays the aero/high tech weenies are the new specimens and spreading in a fast rate!🤣
@mr.rodriguez35124 күн бұрын
Hi George.... Which kool stop pads? Is the max spacers between stem and headset cap 30mm?
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
@@mr.rodriguez3512 salmon Kool Stops. Yes 30mm
@gc6414 күн бұрын
Shoots I must be getting old, I run a 46/30 with an 11/36 cassette😂😂 nice bike
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
You and me both! But for now I can still run 53/39 or 52/36 with 11-32 cassettes
@gc6414 күн бұрын
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad man this old fart needs all the help going up 6% and up, good on you George there might be hope for me🤣🤣🤣🤙
@SeeYouUpTheRoad3 күн бұрын
ha ha I’m only 58 - 59 in 2 months so I’m not an old fart … yet 😂
@fredherzberger46774 күн бұрын
I have the whiskey 7 handlebars on one bike. They have a minimal flare.I think 6 degrees. I also have another bike with the salsa cowbell hannelbar. Those have a 12 degree flair. I like them both, but I like the whiskey 7 better. I think that frame is awesome.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! So a little flare is good but 12 degree is too much for you.
@thomaskuhn65414 күн бұрын
Not only RItchey, you're also a shill for Lake and SQ Labs.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
Ha ha! Well if the shoe fits... 🤣🤣🤣
@salsalawyer4 күн бұрын
Very interesting. I would love to see avideo of the break down (away) and back together. Makes an interesting back up / travel bike option.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
@@salsalawyer those videos are coming soon… we will ride the bike another week or so and then pack them. I will unpack them in Pittsburgh- and shoot video
@ellerybice37874 күн бұрын
Preferring Ritchie bicycles appears to be a solid and justifiable decision, so why would anyone take issue with you over it? Are they envious? Or did Ritchie himself ......
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
@@ellerybice3787 I think people like to call me a retro grouch because more practical and I’m not promoting or shilling bikes like GCN. I rarely care about the latest and greatest anymore.
@mr.rodriguez35124 күн бұрын
@SeeYouUpTheRoad Call me retrogrouch as well! When I go to group rides, I'm the only one riding a steel bike.....I own a 1992 Schwinn Paramount Series 3, a 2016 Ritchey Logic, and a 50th Anniversary Ritchey Logic. Had a 2004 Olmo Corsa Criterium as well. "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication." - Leonardo da Vinci -
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
and when you show them a clean set of wheels at the town sign there’s nothing they can say about your steel bike 😊
@zoufyj1854 күн бұрын
For sure the Ti breakaway is a great bike! They're hard to find these days, but the steel versions can be more easily found, just a little heavier and much less expensive than the Ti version. I have a steel 2006 cantilever/cross version that, for me, is even better as a go-anywhere-do-almost-anything travel bike than the Ti road version. Option for wider tires (up to 40mm fit fine), fender and rack mounts for light touring make it very versatile for road riding (not a kludge on the road, feels like a road bike with narrower tires), gravel etc. I have a second steel fork (Soma) with multiple rack mounts for loaded touring, although the 42cm chainstays limit the size/design of rear panniers- small feet help. My bike has seen multiple trips to 4 continents as well as domestic trips, even a few seasons as a cyclocross race bike and the couplers are still original (use a torque wrench!) and the paint/powdercoat is in surprisingly good shape for all the packing and travel abuse (I'm on my second Ritchey travel case). A few comments on this bike: Rolf Wheels make for easier travel packing with the gaps between spokes. But I prefer a standard 28 or 32 spoke wheel for travel so I can easily replace a spoke (I carry extras) or tweak a true, spokes get abused in transit. Bartape- use cheap and easy to replace bar tape, it gets torn up in transit with sharp tubing and component edges. Cable connectors- set them up so the connections are near the BB shell, otherwise they rattle at mid-tube. I wrap them with electrical tape as well, rattling cables drive me nuts. As a travel bike, I like simplicity and versatility- so bar end shifters rather than STIs (no fussy adjustments when things get slightly out of whack in transit), and aluminum rims rather than carbon as more TSA abuse tolerant. Most airlines have relaxed the oversize baggage rules for bikes, so you can usually just travel with a normal bike/case as regular checked luggage. However, there is still an advantage to have a breakaway for carrying in taxis, small rental cars etc at your destination. Not to mention the challenge of hauling a bike up 3-5 stories of narrow steep stairs at that cute little B&B in Paris... With practice, I can pack or unpack and set up in about 30 minutes, I even packed it in the back of a van transport from the hotel on the way to the airport once in a panic.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
@@zoufyj185 I can’t love this comment enough! I will source a few spare spokes for Jess and I to always have in the travel case with spoke wrench and nipple driver. I wish to visit 4 continents too!! Having to rent/Uber a bigger car in Europe to transport 2 bike boxes is harder than 2 suitcases and yes the stairwells are quite narrow in European hotels/BnB etc
@bb-r57104 күн бұрын
Very nice❤
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@markganzer4 күн бұрын
My big regret was that I didn’t have the extra $1000 for the titanium version when I bought my Breakaway Cross back in 2014.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
That is my regret as well. I purchased the Grey steel Road Logic and thought I will come back for the Ti Breakaway when I have some more funds. 😭
@zoufyj1854 күн бұрын
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Nah, guys--- steel is real for a travel bike! The Ritchey paint holds up well to the abuse, the powdercoat is tough, I promise! And anyway, Ti still gets scratched when components rub against tubes in the box. I wouldn't trade my steel BAB for Ti!
@armasks4 күн бұрын
Rev is a Ritchey Schiller.. 😂
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
@@armasks ha ha !!
@armasks4 күн бұрын
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Tom Ritchey should know IYKYK.. George loves his Ritchey's like I love my Fausto Coppi bikes..
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
@@armasks Coppi - great bikes!!
@armasks4 күн бұрын
Thank you, I still have have the racing team pro models from the late nineties.. K14, K3, KT2, and KCN2.. Still ride like new..
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
I used to ride with a guy who had a couple Coppi bikes. He had his 2 sons riding Simonetti's!
@luisacc59604 күн бұрын
Hi George 55 frame. Is that the L for Ritchey ?
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
Yes sorry! I totally forgot they call them Small, Medium and Large
@luisacc59604 күн бұрын
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad S M L and XL they have..so 55 is L I assuming, is that right
@MrSandperson04 күн бұрын
Thank you for posting this video!! I've been waiting to see the Break-Away fully built up 🙂 It's very comforting to know that even pros don't like to touch their seat position once it's setup just right. To the viewer that boo-hoos that steel is so archaic - those steel tubes are not Home Depot water pipes - those are very advanced, triple butted, heat treated steel tubes. The thickness at some points is less than 1 mil thick. It's mind boggling how thin the tubes can be and yet still be so strong.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
Thanks for adding that Ritchey bikes are not what we say in the industry straight gauge gas pipes. The only way to educate people is to offer them a test ride. 😊
@rodjonsson8134 күн бұрын
Ciao George, Nice build. Another reason to prefer the break away design over SS - the butting profile of the tubing is preserved. It's a more elegant solution to not adversely impacting the frame flex and the ride. Your flexy seatpost probably has more deflection under load than the one on the red bike. Little thing - I find the shift cable couplers tend to ping the downtube, which can be annoying. For travel, I've taken to putting a patch of duct tape or a bandaid over the tube there. Some FDs need more cable tension to shift and when dirty and I have pulled out of that grab screw. Tinning the cable end with a bit of solder seems to help make it more secure. Also for travel, definitely keep to simplest, cheapest parts. Breaking or losing exotic stuff happens a lot and the local bike shop, if there is one, may not have compatible spares. The airline or TSA broke my RD on of these bikes. Now, I always detach it when packing.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
These are great tips. I was wondering what to do with the rear brake coupling because yes I hear it pinging when I hit potholes. Yes the Ergon seat post would have more travel than the Ritchey Flex Logic seat post.
@agarrioone4 күн бұрын
George I remember you saying in another video that you went one size up on your SQ lab saddle and it was even more comfortable for you. Is 140 the size up for you that you run on all of your bikes or do your have 150 on some of the others?
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
@@agarrioone great memory and thank you for your question. Based on SQ LAB recommendations I should be riding a 13 cm saddle but instead I ride 14 cm saddles. I hope that helps.
@HeyWattsUpCycling4 күн бұрын
never rode anything like that. actually never rode anything but road race bikes and XC mtb. I should probably get some sort of more basic all arounder
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
@@HeyWattsUpCycling yes if you’re not racing a Ritchey is a great all around bike! But if even if you’re racing road it isn’t going to hold you back. Thanks for watching please consider subscribing
@michaelcapilla18284 күн бұрын
Great breakdown of weights and ratios. Currently using GRX 11 w/ 48/11 and 11-34. I live in hilly area, but it is still so rare that I use 31x34 so the 11-36 just doesn't make sense. I do like the even smaller steps with the 12 speed 11-34. That'll likely be my next groupset.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
Yes the 12 speed closed up the gaps a little bit more. They were focused on making 2X cassette more rideable
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching please consider subscribing
@PMyoutubehandle4 күн бұрын
nice roadie
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
Thank you and thanks for watching! Please consider subscribing
@n22pdf4 күн бұрын
Wow looks awesome George.. I’ve been looking forward to seeing this vid.. 😊 really nice my friend 🚴♀️🚴🏻👍Pete
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
Thank You Pete! It rides very well! ❤ thanks for watching!
@cactuslily88294 күн бұрын
Regarding those brake pads...orange ones...i have heard orange compound stops better but is harsh on rims...which one is recommended for dry weather and occassional downhill?
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
Hmm I was not aware they were harsh on rims. The compound seems softer and grippier. Logic would tell me that they will wear out faster and be gentler on rims. The standard Shimano pads are excellent 👌
@notpablo83694 күн бұрын
Hello dad, can you do a frame-pump demo on the shorts section?
@IevgeniiIegorushkov4 күн бұрын
What a lovely bike! The Ergon seatpost is a spring, it sag under the load. That is why it needs adjustment. 🚲🚲 ❤
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@robertdavenport67054 күн бұрын
MAAP Evo Team bibs saved my butt.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 күн бұрын
There you go! Thanks for watching please consider subscribing
@andrewhamilton34864 күн бұрын
It seems there are subtle geometry differences between the standard and breakaway frames. Interestingly. What's your experience?
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I am glad to have a rim brake supporter on KZread . Did you measure he actual width the tires ? I would not be surprised if they even were a bit more than 32 mm . Thanks, great info.
I would just replace tire.
Yep that would be the smart thing to do. And that’s what I would have done personally butt on this channel I was testing different repair methods for you the viewers. Thanks for watching please consider subscribing
Hey George, it's Jeff the original Ritchey Break Away-er. The videos are good but remember the real intention of the Break Away is a travel bike. Any way you slice it, Packing the Break Away and building it for us bike repair novices is THE POINT of the bike. It's a huge ordeal when you're in a foreign country or hotel room in the boonies putting this thing together. A serious combination of Tetris-meets-wits and pray-you-don't-lose-a-single-bolt. Thats really the whole point of the Break Away. It took me years of bike travel to get to the Miyagi-level of wax-on Break Away master. PS for the record- Rolf Prima the absolute Worst wheels from years of experience, Peace and Love, Your bud Jeff
I live so far up north that vitamin D deficiency is a thing :-).
@@rosomak8244 ha ha!
Really nice looking bikes. I'm wondering why you didn't go with a larger frame size? You'd have a longer head tube and be able to raise your bars even higher in the future and with less spacers. A slightly longer wheelbase would be a nice bonus on longer rides too. And you could easily use a shorter stem to make up for the longer top tube. I'm sure you know all of this and just prefer the smaller frame size. I get it, I just personally prefer longer and taller frames with less seat post and stem extension than the other way around.
I’m not sure I understand your comment - like seriously at all! I’m barely 5’9” or 175cm. The large frame is equivalent to a 55cm. I have very long legs for my height and a short torso. I race for years on 54cm frames with 120-140 head tubes and this Breakaway has a 170 head tube. I don’t need a taller head tube at all it’s too freaking tall as it is. I made a reference to my Paris Brest Paris experience but didn’t completely explain the fit on the bike. On my grey Road Logic I have a 160 HT and I cut the fork a decade ago with no spacers before I had ever thought I was going to do PBP. It was my group ride bike and no more than 100-150 mile bike. So that is why I had neck and shoulder pain in the last 200 km of a 1226 km event. I also said my longest ride was a 600km in April and the event was in August. I honestly have no clue what you’re talking about
The last thing I would ever do is is use a shorter stem. 120mm or longer makes the bike well balanced and very predictable in all situations especially descending. Again I have no clue what you’re talking about.
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad My thoughts on your frame were based on what you show at 10:12 in the video. You say you've left extra steerer tube so you can raise your stem if you like later. It looks like about 10 mm of steerer tube left above the stem? My opinion is unless you'd like to also be able to lower your stem a bunch, which is valid, why have all the spacers under your stem? A larger frame size would mean less spacers with your current bar position, and the ability to raise your bars even more if you require in the future (not counting flipping the stem, which is also valid). Now if you feel strongly about a 120 mm stem that is a a limiting factor, which means you have to pick the frame size to work with your desired stem length. I personally have't had a issue with shorter stems.
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Watching this as I'm scraping the dried sealant off of my tubeless tire, ... the one about finding a better use of my time hit hard, not gonna lie :D Oh and had to replace a rim tape on one wheel, managed to mess it up the first time. Taking off the tire and putting it back on is a bitch.
@@dsego84 ha ha yep the set up can be a pain but the constant maintenance is what I I would rather spend my time doing something else. Because I ride a lot and I ride race tires for my daily tires I’m no longer scraping out old sealant. I just keep adding and I will wear out a tire and throw it away. Thanks for watching please consider subscribing
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I have a pair of Rolf Prima Vigors. Bought them 2 years ago when rim brake wheelsets were being blown out. They have White Industries hubs and everything is built in the USA. 2 years and no wheel truing. They really helped with my stiff aluminum frame. They are medium width...bout a 20 mm internal. They are aero...they are invisible to side winds. Not super stiff...but stiff enough. Somebody asked a Zipp engineer about paired spokes and he said the Rolf wheels are the only paired spokes that have real aero advantage because the paired spokes are close enough together that the leading spoke provides draft for the spoke behind it. If you can find a set on the cheap...well worth the investment.
Love your comment!
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Your riding friend was no Marine, eh? 🤷🏼♂️
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I have been watching your video 4 minutes and 31 seconds and you still talking? I think you’re talking too much my friend.😢
I’m not sure what you’re “complaining” about. Every THING I am saying is vital information so you don’t screw it up - in an irreversible way. This is not a video of me cutting a fork. It’s titled properly that you should watch this before cutting your fork. FYI- this is not a “how to” channel. You will rarely see me actually doing a repair on this channel because I believe it’s more important to know “why” you do something than “how” Thanks for watching please consider subscribing.
I just found an almost as new carbon ti breakaway this year.Fortunately had a friend getting it me from USA to France. From my research with web archive and old catalogs they were produced from 2006 to 2016. I had mine build with shimano ultegra 2x11 mechanical, campy wto’s 45. What a joy to ride ! Right now I am running 28mmm gp5000 but I willl test 30mm tyres. I believe with the right calipers the frame could even fit larger tyres . If you have the chance to try let us know, because I think no one did it yet Can’t wait the day you get a cross breakaway on the Chanel , either steel or titanium
Wow congrats! I hope to see a cross breakaway! The Gravel Cyclist has one on his channel.
I have used those GP4000 with the reflective! Bads, it peels and the sewn threads will come off and wrap around your hub/quick release 🧵 🛞.. I may have a spare I kept in the box just for memory.. I also have the GP5000 all seasons tubeless. It does have a more welded-on reflective strip. So far it does not peel. It is not as reflective.. I do use it for double century and it helps once you’re at night or dark hours.. too bad they don’t make em no more.
Titanium road breakaway😍 man that bike is sweet! Great video thanks George
Thanks for watching Len
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Wow a Ti break-away. I wanted the canti-cross for my break-away but there were none for sale. Fun to geek out a bit on bike stuff. Another option I have used is a Pika Packworks case for regular bike. Packing and assembly are more straightforward and it will fit into the trunk or backseat of a compact. Overall less $s to travel. Also wrt travel: rim brake >> disk brake, tubes >> tubeless, forged metal >> cf. Each of these better things is less $s.
That case looks cool. I had never heard of it until today
I've always wondered about Rolf wheels since they seem to have a low spoke count..and even stranger to have so few on the rear wheel. Aaaaannnnd.....can you do a video about hidden vs exposed nipples? Please show as many examples as possible 😍😝
Ha ha I did make a video way back about how much disdain I have to hidden nipples :-)
Great demonstration of a nicely designed bike rack, very similar to my old 90s Sport Worx two bike rack which I am still using. Do you know if the strap that holds the rear wheel were to break is the unit replaceable? Thanks. Beautiful bikes btw!
Thanks for watching! Yes everything is replaceable. But that strap is a high quality rubber. It might only break from misuse or abuse. Please consider subscribing
Thank you for the info. Just subscribed to your channel. You guys seem to make a great team. Rock on, Ride on!✌️@@SeeYouUpTheRoad
Nice bike!
Thanks for watching Mathieu
Hi George, I am a fan of you content please keep going! I find it really unfortunate that the reach on Ritchey road frames is always very long compared to the relative size of the bike. I am 1.90m tall but with a relative short torso and I find the geometry always very long on the top tube but way too short on the seat tube
@@simoneberardozzi2843 thanks for watching and thanks for the compliment. Tom Ritchey does not make endurance bikes. He was a former racer and his bike geometry reflects that heritage. Personally, I’m on a 55cm I love the geometry! It’s perfect! A 160mm Head tube which taller than any of race bikes I ever had. In fact, my Felt F1 had 120mm head tube. Ritchey - 568mm stack My Bianchi XR4 - 140 HT / 545mm stack The reach at 395mm is perfect so that I can run 120mm and have fantastic weight distribution and descend properly fast with great balance. Bianchi XR4 - 390mm Head and seat tube angles at 73.5 degrees - that’s perfect again. Bianchi 72.5 HT angle 73.5 seat tube angle The chainstays are not too short at 415 mm but not too long which adds stability to the bike. My Bianchi XR4 -410mm I am 5’9” with long legs and a short torso. If you can’t ride a Ritchey it’s not the end of the world- well maybe it is. But there are many bikes out there and there’s always custom. Or maybe when the new Montebello is available maybe we can chat about the geometry. It’s going to be taller in the front end. I wouldn’t want the Road Logic to get taller and shorter that would be a travesty!
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad in fact the “problem” here is my body measurements and to be able to fit properly on a bike. I have had Canyons and BMCs and in order to fit them I had to install short stems which really ruined the ride quality and the balance on the bike. Once I went custom geometry with a Casati XCR Gravel frameset and a Bixxis (Doriano De Rosa) road titanium bike I can finally have a bike which fits me, drives amazingly and the feel of these frames is really unique (steel is smooth while titanium in much more direct but not jarring). I can fit nice 120/130mm stems, almost no spacers under the stem and they look amazing. The drawback is the cost compared to a standard geometry frameset but I would spend again those money
Nice build George.. 😊 Pete 🚴♀️🚴🏻👍
Thanks 👍 Pete!
Eugene
ah yes that's it!
I really enjoy Rolf Wheels
Hi..... Talking about seatpost insertion. Ritchey's short seatpost is 350mm, when inserted it pass way more where you pointed. Should it be cut?
Weight weenies cut seatposts 😊 only time I ever cut a seatpost was to insert it all the way in for my 8 year old son to fit on my tandem. 😊
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad I asked because on my Schwinn Paramount I have an Ultegra seatpost 200 or 250mm long, and when I bought the Ritchey seatpost it was curious for me. But it still uncut though. Now, I think the weight weenies are specimens in danger of extinction.....nowadays the aero/high tech weenies are the new specimens and spreading in a fast rate!🤣
Hi George.... Which kool stop pads? Is the max spacers between stem and headset cap 30mm?
@@mr.rodriguez3512 salmon Kool Stops. Yes 30mm
Shoots I must be getting old, I run a 46/30 with an 11/36 cassette😂😂 nice bike
You and me both! But for now I can still run 53/39 or 52/36 with 11-32 cassettes
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad man this old fart needs all the help going up 6% and up, good on you George there might be hope for me🤣🤣🤣🤙
ha ha I’m only 58 - 59 in 2 months so I’m not an old fart … yet 😂
I have the whiskey 7 handlebars on one bike. They have a minimal flare.I think 6 degrees. I also have another bike with the salsa cowbell hannelbar. Those have a 12 degree flair. I like them both, but I like the whiskey 7 better. I think that frame is awesome.
Thanks for watching! So a little flare is good but 12 degree is too much for you.
Not only RItchey, you're also a shill for Lake and SQ Labs.
Ha ha! Well if the shoe fits... 🤣🤣🤣
Very interesting. I would love to see avideo of the break down (away) and back together. Makes an interesting back up / travel bike option.
@@salsalawyer those videos are coming soon… we will ride the bike another week or so and then pack them. I will unpack them in Pittsburgh- and shoot video
Preferring Ritchie bicycles appears to be a solid and justifiable decision, so why would anyone take issue with you over it? Are they envious? Or did Ritchie himself ......
@@ellerybice3787 I think people like to call me a retro grouch because more practical and I’m not promoting or shilling bikes like GCN. I rarely care about the latest and greatest anymore.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad Call me retrogrouch as well! When I go to group rides, I'm the only one riding a steel bike.....I own a 1992 Schwinn Paramount Series 3, a 2016 Ritchey Logic, and a 50th Anniversary Ritchey Logic. Had a 2004 Olmo Corsa Criterium as well. "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication." - Leonardo da Vinci -
and when you show them a clean set of wheels at the town sign there’s nothing they can say about your steel bike 😊
For sure the Ti breakaway is a great bike! They're hard to find these days, but the steel versions can be more easily found, just a little heavier and much less expensive than the Ti version. I have a steel 2006 cantilever/cross version that, for me, is even better as a go-anywhere-do-almost-anything travel bike than the Ti road version. Option for wider tires (up to 40mm fit fine), fender and rack mounts for light touring make it very versatile for road riding (not a kludge on the road, feels like a road bike with narrower tires), gravel etc. I have a second steel fork (Soma) with multiple rack mounts for loaded touring, although the 42cm chainstays limit the size/design of rear panniers- small feet help. My bike has seen multiple trips to 4 continents as well as domestic trips, even a few seasons as a cyclocross race bike and the couplers are still original (use a torque wrench!) and the paint/powdercoat is in surprisingly good shape for all the packing and travel abuse (I'm on my second Ritchey travel case). A few comments on this bike: Rolf Wheels make for easier travel packing with the gaps between spokes. But I prefer a standard 28 or 32 spoke wheel for travel so I can easily replace a spoke (I carry extras) or tweak a true, spokes get abused in transit. Bartape- use cheap and easy to replace bar tape, it gets torn up in transit with sharp tubing and component edges. Cable connectors- set them up so the connections are near the BB shell, otherwise they rattle at mid-tube. I wrap them with electrical tape as well, rattling cables drive me nuts. As a travel bike, I like simplicity and versatility- so bar end shifters rather than STIs (no fussy adjustments when things get slightly out of whack in transit), and aluminum rims rather than carbon as more TSA abuse tolerant. Most airlines have relaxed the oversize baggage rules for bikes, so you can usually just travel with a normal bike/case as regular checked luggage. However, there is still an advantage to have a breakaway for carrying in taxis, small rental cars etc at your destination. Not to mention the challenge of hauling a bike up 3-5 stories of narrow steep stairs at that cute little B&B in Paris... With practice, I can pack or unpack and set up in about 30 minutes, I even packed it in the back of a van transport from the hotel on the way to the airport once in a panic.
@@zoufyj185 I can’t love this comment enough! I will source a few spare spokes for Jess and I to always have in the travel case with spoke wrench and nipple driver. I wish to visit 4 continents too!! Having to rent/Uber a bigger car in Europe to transport 2 bike boxes is harder than 2 suitcases and yes the stairwells are quite narrow in European hotels/BnB etc
Very nice❤
Thank you! Cheers!
My big regret was that I didn’t have the extra $1000 for the titanium version when I bought my Breakaway Cross back in 2014.
That is my regret as well. I purchased the Grey steel Road Logic and thought I will come back for the Ti Breakaway when I have some more funds. 😭
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Nah, guys--- steel is real for a travel bike! The Ritchey paint holds up well to the abuse, the powdercoat is tough, I promise! And anyway, Ti still gets scratched when components rub against tubes in the box. I wouldn't trade my steel BAB for Ti!
Rev is a Ritchey Schiller.. 😂
@@armasks ha ha !!
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Tom Ritchey should know IYKYK.. George loves his Ritchey's like I love my Fausto Coppi bikes..
@@armasks Coppi - great bikes!!
Thank you, I still have have the racing team pro models from the late nineties.. K14, K3, KT2, and KCN2.. Still ride like new..
I used to ride with a guy who had a couple Coppi bikes. He had his 2 sons riding Simonetti's!
Hi George 55 frame. Is that the L for Ritchey ?
Yes sorry! I totally forgot they call them Small, Medium and Large
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad S M L and XL they have..so 55 is L I assuming, is that right
Thank you for posting this video!! I've been waiting to see the Break-Away fully built up 🙂 It's very comforting to know that even pros don't like to touch their seat position once it's setup just right. To the viewer that boo-hoos that steel is so archaic - those steel tubes are not Home Depot water pipes - those are very advanced, triple butted, heat treated steel tubes. The thickness at some points is less than 1 mil thick. It's mind boggling how thin the tubes can be and yet still be so strong.
Thanks for adding that Ritchey bikes are not what we say in the industry straight gauge gas pipes. The only way to educate people is to offer them a test ride. 😊
Ciao George, Nice build. Another reason to prefer the break away design over SS - the butting profile of the tubing is preserved. It's a more elegant solution to not adversely impacting the frame flex and the ride. Your flexy seatpost probably has more deflection under load than the one on the red bike. Little thing - I find the shift cable couplers tend to ping the downtube, which can be annoying. For travel, I've taken to putting a patch of duct tape or a bandaid over the tube there. Some FDs need more cable tension to shift and when dirty and I have pulled out of that grab screw. Tinning the cable end with a bit of solder seems to help make it more secure. Also for travel, definitely keep to simplest, cheapest parts. Breaking or losing exotic stuff happens a lot and the local bike shop, if there is one, may not have compatible spares. The airline or TSA broke my RD on of these bikes. Now, I always detach it when packing.
These are great tips. I was wondering what to do with the rear brake coupling because yes I hear it pinging when I hit potholes. Yes the Ergon seat post would have more travel than the Ritchey Flex Logic seat post.
George I remember you saying in another video that you went one size up on your SQ lab saddle and it was even more comfortable for you. Is 140 the size up for you that you run on all of your bikes or do your have 150 on some of the others?
@@agarrioone great memory and thank you for your question. Based on SQ LAB recommendations I should be riding a 13 cm saddle but instead I ride 14 cm saddles. I hope that helps.
never rode anything like that. actually never rode anything but road race bikes and XC mtb. I should probably get some sort of more basic all arounder
@@HeyWattsUpCycling yes if you’re not racing a Ritchey is a great all around bike! But if even if you’re racing road it isn’t going to hold you back. Thanks for watching please consider subscribing
Great breakdown of weights and ratios. Currently using GRX 11 w/ 48/11 and 11-34. I live in hilly area, but it is still so rare that I use 31x34 so the 11-36 just doesn't make sense. I do like the even smaller steps with the 12 speed 11-34. That'll likely be my next groupset.
Yes the 12 speed closed up the gaps a little bit more. They were focused on making 2X cassette more rideable
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nice roadie
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Wow looks awesome George.. I’ve been looking forward to seeing this vid.. 😊 really nice my friend 🚴♀️🚴🏻👍Pete
Thank You Pete! It rides very well! ❤ thanks for watching!
Regarding those brake pads...orange ones...i have heard orange compound stops better but is harsh on rims...which one is recommended for dry weather and occassional downhill?
Hmm I was not aware they were harsh on rims. The compound seems softer and grippier. Logic would tell me that they will wear out faster and be gentler on rims. The standard Shimano pads are excellent 👌
Hello dad, can you do a frame-pump demo on the shorts section?
What a lovely bike! The Ergon seatpost is a spring, it sag under the load. That is why it needs adjustment. 🚲🚲 ❤
Thanks for watching!
MAAP Evo Team bibs saved my butt.
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It seems there are subtle geometry differences between the standard and breakaway frames. Interestingly. What's your experience?
@@andrewhamilton3486 it feels amazing to me 😁
Very cool!
Indeed! Thanks for watching!