Most people need air to survive. Some people also need flying.
Flying and gliding specifically can be a very isolated sport. You are on your own most of the time and that limits the chance to learn from others. I share my experiences here to at least have the chance of learning from other people's experiences and maybe help others learn from mine. I also just have to share some of the unbelievable things I've seen while playing with the birds.
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Use the wheel brake before you hit the rabbit hole that you can't see.
Good landing planning and execution although a steeper final would be more safe and controlable with more brakes on. JGM - Gliding instructor.
Some more outlanding advice: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dYx9z8xroqrRlps.htmlsi=nDWsPIAx0oOnZ0VS . Probably one of the best videos on outlandings, flatlands though.
Thanx for commentary and a few points of camera views
I do not like the title. Outlanding with a glider is a normal thing and nothing that has to be „survived“
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Nicely executed landing. But if you are team flying, take advantage of that. Don't ever just follow the other glider. Split up and cover twice the opportunities. While in general, the day looked very weak, it looked like you had some strong sink on that last ridge. If there is no prevailing winds, and you hit sink on a ridge, it usually means the air is returning to higher altitudes in the center of the valley, so try that before you get too low. Also, once you flew down the ridge and it wasn't working, for sure don't re-fly the same ridge.
It is a good idea not to change the airbrake position if not necessary below lets say 100 meters, and just concentrate on sufficient speed and a nice smooth curve above the ground. Even if that means you do not land short and have a bit way back to the trailer. This is a great video that shows what can happen when moving the brakes in a low height. Thanks a lot.
With that overcast cloud situation, where and how should the thermals develop? That was not really a day for cross country flight, especially in the alps. So there was a high probability for an outlanding when attempting cross country however. As there is always a small chance that a glider gets damaged at outlanding, it might be better to skip such a day and wait patiently for better weather. Or pack the glider into the trailer and drive into better weather the day before.
You should have tried the opposit side of the valley. The small hills NW of the Lofferer Steinberge are often good for a low save. It makes no sense to stay at a slop that doesent work.
Nice landing, I would have gone to St. Johann airfield, 10-15 km down the valley, since the sky did not look very promising I would have left earlier and higher. From there a Towplane would have brought you back to Uw.
You know the thermals go crazy when the vario starts sounding like the targeting computer from Star Wars 😂
I enjoyed this very much. I’m fascinated with gliders and would love to ride in one someday. For now I’ll just have to be content with simulated gliding. This was the first of your videos I’ve seen, and subscribed for more.
I did 35 outlandings during my time x country glider flying. Pilots usually retrieve each other. Once I retrieved a fellow pilot with 2 other fellow pilots. We found our friend's glider, but he was in the farmer's house having tea & sandwiches so we went ahead and put his glider in the trailer & then we went looking for him. We didn't tell him that we already had his glider in the trailer. The fun started when we drove past the field he had landed in and he couldn't see his glider. We then spent some time looking for it, before admitting what we had done 🤣 !
Allways remove the horizontal stabilizer first !
Not sure I'm correctly interpreting, so I'll ask. Do you program your pattern altitude, plus a safety factor, required into your flight computer so that final glide calculation takes that into account? As opposed to your final glide calc getting you a 0 AGL arrival.
I do not set any safety factors. Since I know 0 AGL will mean arriving with ~0 spare I will mentally select my safety factor based on the conditions. Sometimes that’s as much as +500m if I expect valley winds to become a headwind.
Model of plane?
It's an LS4b
I've seen this kind of visualization before. What app/website generates this?? thanks!
Yes, NATS did an amazing video like this a few years back with professional animation software. I make these with a home made webGL app. It's not quite public ready but subscribe for news.
@@the.flying.adventure ahhh cool! thanks for the reply
should have installed an engine! 😊 nah, great video on how it gets disassembled for trailer haul!
No! An engine spoils all the fun. But seriously, gliding is all about psychology and an engine changes it entirely.
Don't you usually take the taiplane off before the wings? If the fuselage tips over you're less likely to break the tail.
Yes, the flight manual says to take off the tail first (well it says to do the "reverse assembly sequence") but the trailer has such a big cradle, even to push the glider over intentionally would be difficult.
@the.flying.adventure That's fine. Great video. Retrieves can be fun too.
@@the.flying.adventure As long as you retract the gear before you take the wings off and the trailer doesn't have a hydraulic jack that just needs a foot in the wrong place to collapse it!
At the time of this comment, 980 subscribers. Keep up the good work!
Thanks! Will do!
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This is actually a great video
I hope one day I can do it in more detail though. The timelapse was a lucky after thought on that day and I think this is an underrated topic
980 Subs... getting close... nice video thank you
yes! I have to admit it happened faster than I expected :)
I’m guessing you left the tailplane until last just for the video as this is not the normal procedure
Yes, the flight manual says to take off the tail plane first but it was doing a good job of holding the camera and there was low risk of tipping the glider.
LS4 is great to fly but due to its extremely efficient brakes sometimes tricky to land... Well done, mate!
Thanks. I've flown some jazzy gliders but I think the LS4b is still my favourite
I stopped watching when you said 'no kerosene'.
thanks for letting us know
Top Fun!
Gut, vor allem der deutsche Kommentar 😊
Wonderful video Sir! Per your narration, you demonstrated a lot of good advance judgment to hedge your risks as the flight progressed and conditions failed to improve. It's also nice that you're sharing your hard-earned experience with us for free. Respect!
Many thanks! Really appreciate the feedback. Hopefully others can learn without having to experience the drama for themselves!
Was it 7 m/s average? Or peak 7m/s? I’ve hit 6 m/s peak but the average of that climb was closer to 4 m/s, this was on a paraglider though.
it was 7.9 m/s on average from entry to the point we had to leave before getting sucked into the cloud! Incredible feeling
Killin it!
Thanks for sharing!
One of the gliding clubs I was associated with had a perpetual trophy made from a broken fence post 😂 This trophy was awarded quite often to various club members.
I guess it's a good thing if you manage to get back and have a laugh about it.
As the old saying goes: If you're going to hit a fence, hit the far fence
The old ones are the best ones.
Responding to the comment I made on the english version : yeah, a full landig sequence after the video is a good idea, especially with the 3 camera angles. Well done! ( if I should criticize your landing, 120/130kph while you can do like 100 including an extra safety is a little bit too fast for an approach speed (unless you had a strong facewind, I don't have all the details)). My instructors always told me to watch my speed and keep it low when possible so it trains me to outland if I have too. Otherwise, great job and nice average speed :) )
yes I'm maybe a bit too relaxed about higher speed when landing on a longer paved runway. Though, I think rather than "Always do x, y, or z" I think it's best to know how to do a range of techniques and know that on any given flight you would be comfortable performing any of them. e.g. landing on a steepish upslope with a tail wind may feel uncomfortably fast if you only train landing on the published approach speed. Having a toolbox of techniques is what helps me confidently approach the unknown.
did he say 200 knots??
I did say 100 knots. Old habbits ... km/h is a bit of a mouthful though.
Great videos!
well done! great graphics. what is the L/D of your sailplane?
It is an LS4b and according to wikipedia it has a maximum glide ratio of 40.5:1 at 100 km/h
Incredible!
Bad weather: an outlanding should be expected. Nothing to "survive". Don´t like the lurid/sensational title :-(
On the lower end of the experience scale I think most of us are happy to survive a flight in the alps, whether it involves landing out or not.
Oh wow, is that you talking in german? Or is it a new feature? It's your voice in an almost perfect german without any dialect, it seems. Awesome! Well... I'm sure it will be helpful for some german audience, but the most of us are able to understand your declarations in english, as I guess. Landing: 10 out of 10 ;-) Best regards Andrea
Thanks. Unfortuantely not a new feature but a little helping hand from the AI to make it sound perfect. Sadly you can't expect that same quality in real life ;)
And again another gorgeous and informative Video! Really like your style. Cheers Andrea
Thanks again!
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Passt so wie du magst :)
Awesome flight!! great video new to this channel. Can you share your XCprofile do you use more pages? Also, what tablet is that?
I plan to do more on the XCSoar where I can share more about my settings. The pages I use are: 1. Full screen map 2. Cruise 3. Climb 4. Airspace I think the secret to getting a profile that works for you is: pair it with Condor and do some long flights in the sim. Highly recommended for the offseason or long rainy weeks like now! The tablet is a Lenovo TB-8505F
I hope people appreciate the time you've put in in your video edit and that the wide view lens changes perception of closeness of objects (border) It's always good not being the first one going into a paddock, you know its okay. The sharp bump just after touch down is a testimony to build quality of gliders, except for the LS brakes 😀 I once landed out during a contest in a field full of gliders, it looked like an airfield, a Discus BT even did a marginal low pass with his turbo running.... I have great memories of numerous outlandings, so I'm not a sofa pilot I think hèhè. To me it looked as an almost dead air mass, I think in that valley at 500m above the floor there was no chance of getting away, not enough energy passing trough the cloud deck and not enough wind. Keep flying in all sorts of weather, your learning curve will be steeper in marginal conditions!
yes the marginal weather is where most of the learning is happening. It certainly exposes you a great deal more on a day like this compared to a day where you find +3 m/s climbs with your eyes closed.
Fine . Do you have listed fields like they have in France ?
It’s possible to download a catalog of landing fields from landewiesen.streckenflug.at/ and display in xcsoar. Covers most areas I fly.
On 2:37 you fly with about 130 km/h towards the airfield, while the yellow triangle on the airspeed indicator is around 90. Was there a specific reason for this fast approach?
Touching down on the threshold of an 800m runway at ~130km/h was my “brake to vacate” speed to reach the far end where the glider needs to be put away. So more to minimise walking than anything flight safety related. I got to know the glider well so don’t need so much the book speed.