I have had the Momentum 3 for a couple years now and really rate them. I just bought the H95 and still testing them but I have to agree that the M3 still sound as good if not better than the H95. Especially when you consider the price delta. And for the M3, they have a HiFi EQ setting in the app that dials back the bass in let's the mids and highs come through more. Have you tried this?
@RX-rd4sc18 күн бұрын
How much is the difference in resolution of sound? Between these And did you heard sony z1r?
@SirMesko12 күн бұрын
@@RX-rd4sc when it comes to resolution the source is very important. Good headphones will reveal a lot more detail with a good source. If you are listening on Spotify you might not take full advantage of a resolving headphone for example. Dac and amp also play a role and you want to have good enough gear to make use of high quality files. To my hears the HD660S2 are much more resolving and detailed than the D7200.
@RX-rd4sc12 күн бұрын
@@SirMesko do you think its because of closed back vs open back nature? The difference in resolution
@SirMesko12 күн бұрын
@@RX-rd4sc No! Closed backs tend to be more boxy sounding but the difference I saw wasn’t to do with that, but rather the inability of the Denons driver to play detail. It felt to me like it was missing tweeters if you like. Something really off with the sound. A lack of hi fidelity
@portugasanwa19 күн бұрын
Orgulho ver a minha bandeira, quanto ao assunto, tenho o senn hd560s e estou pensando em adquirir um novo headphone, pergunto-me se nessa faixa de preço algum vai soar melhor q o q tenho, tenho ainda uma vasta colecção de iems.
@SirMesko12 күн бұрын
@@portugasanwa viva Portugal! Nunca ouvi os HD560s e gostava de experimentar. Pelo que vejo online of HD660S2 estão acima em todas as categorias sonoras. Boas viagens
@6643bear20 күн бұрын
Hi , interesting video, it may be an idea to fit a headband sponge like I did with my old senn hd575 as it didn’t have one at all, also my old senn has thicker Earpad’s, 32mm , so I fitted those to my 660s, and 6xx now they are even more comfortable. Regards mark
@AndrewUKLondon21 күн бұрын
I got the Chord Mojo 2 a few months ago. I've had several daca before, including Dragonfly red, Cayin ru6, from FiiO... The Chord Mojo 2 has had rhe biggest agfevt across all my IEMs akd headphones. It's brilliant! I wasn't that wow'd by my Truth Ear Hexas or Sennheiser IE600 until I used them with the Chord which added depth, musicality and more.
@SirMesko21 күн бұрын
Remarkable device. IE600 sounds amazing through it!
@saint_odonnell23 күн бұрын
Also, a detail most people don’t seem to “click with” is that, running power and audio signal separately, is advantageous to SNR, via the micro USB and USB C.
@SirMesko22 күн бұрын
Yes very well engineering in that sense too
@saint_odonnell23 күн бұрын
Power delivery from mains has always been superior in terms of output, however, it must be noted that a battery provides the cleanest signal due to its isolation in a signal path. Actually bought the Mojo 2 because of your enthusiasm for the sound quality. One can’t deny our emotional connection to music and it seems that the Mojo 2 provides that in droves 🥰
@SirMesko22 күн бұрын
I am very happy to know my review was useful to your purchasing decision! Welcome to the Mojo 2!
@EeeGee-Spain29 күн бұрын
Thanks for the review. I own large headphone collection including the Senns 600 and 800s which i adore. However, the 7200 are my favourite closed-backs. Indeed, they are naturally with excesive bass and lacking trebble, but after EQ those are simply SOTA. My 2Cs.
@SirMesko28 күн бұрын
I really wanted to like them but they were not for me. I’m glad you enjoy them so much! Happy listening :)
@wazuo8354Ай бұрын
It's so painful finding a good closed back headphone, I have many headphones but I keep going back to my ATH M50X, I just want the low end of the M50X coupled with more refined mids and highs. Good comparison and review, thanks.
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
Why is it so painful I wonder?i got the same feeling.The best I have so far is the Momentum 3 in wired mode. However, it could be more refined. Thinking Focals now
@syzygy.levityАй бұрын
Did you get a good seal?
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
Yeah I did. Once you get used to positioning them lightly on your ears they seal fine.
@bunkerbusterexploreАй бұрын
This is what happens when you give a sennheiser fan boy a different brand to review. Biased from the start. Dont bother doing reviews when you have a conflict of interest.
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
Easy tigger, I’m not a Sennheiser fanboy, I’m a good sound fanboy!
@thedude1249Ай бұрын
⭐$800.00 dollars? RIPOFF! Get the FIIO KA11 $40.00 dollars. Top notch AMP/DAC.💲💲💜💛💜
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
I’m glad you found your DAC/AMP! I know the Mojo 2 is horrendous money in the US
@AndrewUKLondon21 күн бұрын
The chord is way better but it comes down to budget (I've got both). Better than the Fiio is the Onix Alpha for around $100.
@petravidrih3929Ай бұрын
I am not sure if you configured the sound of 7200 correctly? To me the bass is very important because I am watching movies with headphones and I don't believe open back HD660S2 are good in that regard. They look more comfortable but in terms of watching movies with them they are probably not as good as 7200.
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
Yes the bass on the HD660S2 is not so present but I found it to be deeper and cleaner than the 7200. Not sure what configuration is required. mojo 2 connected to an Aune S17 is all the configuration required right?
@ancientalien815Ай бұрын
S17 shits all over the a70 pro.
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
That it does
@ancientalien815Ай бұрын
I do wish the S17 had all the cool features of the a70 @@SirMesko
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
@@ancientalien815 well, it’s got the main feature, which is sound quality ;) What features did you want more?
@ancientalien815Ай бұрын
@@SirMesko The ability to turn the pre amp out on and off, select which output you want to use RCA/XLR, also has selectable headphone output with volume level memory, a70 has way better volume control and gain stages. Really the a70 only lacks in the sound department. In all other aspects its a very good device. I should have said the s17 shits on the a70 as far as sound goes. Not to say the a70 sounds bad at all. Just not as good as s17.
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
@@ancientalien815 as you say the A70 is a very well specced device indeed, it’s even got a screen! However the S17 does all I need from an amp. Sound in, magic, sound out :) All the extra features in the topping are bound to divert budget away from the audio components. An S17 with all those features would not cost what it costs.
@amanieuxАй бұрын
with your iems exclusively is there a very noticeable difference between all these dacs (including the apple dongle) ? thanks
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
Yes! Unquestionably! If you have good IEMs you’ll notice the difference
@jaroslavfricek7772Ай бұрын
I wonder if you liked it the same way with Topping NX7, even more portable❗️😃
@jaroslavfricek7772Ай бұрын
Thank you❗️👍Is it true that it takes around 30min for the Mojo 2 to warm up and sound good ❓
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
Good question. I have a big desktop amp, an Aune S17 and that needs to warm up to sound best. With the Mojo 2 can’t say that I notice a meaningful difference :)
@jaroslavfricek7772Ай бұрын
Iam thinking about Aune S17 pro, actually wonder how would it sound with Mojo 2 as a dac..😊
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
@@jaroslavfricek7772 well that’s my setup and sounds lovely! It’s like having that Mojo2 sound with more punch, openness and drive. I preferred it over the topping D70pro octo.
@mashopotatomashopotato8611Ай бұрын
Apple Dongle doesn't have much power, if you like listening loud.
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
That it doesn’t. The Fiio is far more powerful
@jamesbush2720Ай бұрын
Already have and indeed VERY special!! Powers all nanner of IEMs to full potential. Even planar. Even work amazing with low imedance full size HP like Verum2 ( 8 ohms). This may very well be my last SS Dac. The expense to get a very marginal improvement AND EQ are extreme (3 to 4x). I was at Headfi NY and my phone and Mojo2 combo were giving $2k+ DAPs the sweats!!! I also have an IFI Signature Pro for BIG HP. But dont use nearly as much as Mojo...
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
The Mojo 2 is a very sweet sounding device. My only regret is not having got sooner. It really added layers to my music like nothing prior. For full cans I still think it works best with an amp. The sound, especially the bass gets tighter and cleaner with an amp. I got it paired to an Aune S17 amp and I am getting all that Mojo 2 sound with steroids :)
@GilmarZevallosАй бұрын
I pair this tiny with valve amp (cayin 55 kt88) and it sounds fantastic !!! with both phone (meze 109pro) and stereo system (kef ls50 meta)
@abuanwpАй бұрын
I have the OH7 as replacement for IE80s for 3yrs now, I love how relaxing and comfortable it sounds. The super wide soundstage and the bass is just butter!!!! The issue with OH7 is OXIDATION because the copper body turns dull quickly and it releases a green substance specially at the bottom of the ear tips. NEVER EVER think of using it for workout or any activity that involves sweating because of the oxidation I mentioned, at will smell rotten metal if you don't clean it. I worry that there might be oxidation inside but so far 3yrs of use no any issue. But I will always recommend OH7 to anyone because I use it more often than my Adromeda-gold and Polaris2 and even stopped using my Ananda.
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
It's great to connect with someone else who appreciates the beautiful music delivery of the OH7! I also experience issues with green oxidation and constant maintenance, but I overlook it because of the powerful, smooth, and musical sound that I haven't found anywhere else.
@abuanwpАй бұрын
I have the OH7 as replacement for IE80s for 3yrs now, I love how relaxing and comfortable it sounds. The super wide soundstage and the bass is just butter!!!! The issue with OH7 is OXIDATION because the copper body turns dull quickly and it releases a green substance specially at the bottom of the ear tips. NEVER EVER think of using it for workout or any activity that involves sweating because of the oxidation I mentioned, at will smell rotten metal if you don't clean it. I worry that there might be oxidation inside but so far 3yrs of use no any issue. But I will always recommend OH7 to anyone because I use it more often than my Adromeda-gold and Polaris2 and even stopped using my Ananda.
@unclethathurtsАй бұрын
You are answering all the questions i have. Thanks
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
Glad you find my video helpful :)
@stopspyingonme9210Ай бұрын
That dongle would constantly fuck my music audio levels up. i just started carrying my lg v30 i bought on swappa for like $50 with burn in an cracked screen and owned for 5 years at this point and dont' really care if i drop or break as my dedicated headphone jack device.
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
During my audio journey, I was a fan of HTC phones. I thought about switching to LG, but I never actually made the switch. It seems like everyone is embracing wireless technology and phone manufacturers don't seem to prioritise great audio for music lovers. So, using dongles is often the only way to enjoy good audio on the go, or resorting to an old, worn-out LG phone as you did, unless you're willing to spend loads on a DAP.
@stopspyingonme9210Ай бұрын
@@SirMesko they are worth it for a spare device. My v30 still has a higher res led than most phones, micro SD,and the headphone jack. It's the perfect iPod touch replacement imo. I was cleaning up recently and my mother didn't want this old bose cd player with speakers. I dug up the correct cable and now it's on my bedside for listening to music while I clean or a podcast at bedtime.
@corrrectАй бұрын
Good review. Topping is known for chasing measurements over soud quality. The ifi gryphon is holographic, but you have to use the 4.4 balanced jack, not the SE 3.5.
@JoseFerreira-zb7whАй бұрын
Topping has always represented excellent price-performance ratio. Sound quality is pretty much a matter of preference really (as stated in the video). I actually like their trademark sound - not their erarly stuff that was a bit harsh - but a very clean, transparent and neutralish approach. They have lots of models with different tonalitys right now. I think it's hard for someone not to like some of their units.
@corrrectАй бұрын
@@JoseFerreira-zb7wh to each their own. i tried the topping L70 which is a fairly recent product. the upper mids/treble were harsh, bass was lacking, and the imaging and sound stage was a wall of sound. analytical and fatiguing mess, imo. it measures great, but you can't listen to graphs. IMO schiit does a way better job of good price to performance ratio. Plus made in the U.S.A.
@JoseFerreira-zb7whАй бұрын
@@corrrect opinions i got with the l70 were actually pretty different. Again, a matter of preference.
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
I thought the Gryphon sounded pretty amazing, especially with the GTO filter! However, despite all the excellent features and technical ability, in the end, I still preferred the more musical and richer sound from the Mojo 2! A curious finding was that the 4.4mm at the back sounded better to my ears than the 4.4mm at the front on the Gryphon. I agree that Topping's sound can be a bit sterile. It is very clean and measures well, but it is not very musical, though that seems to be changing with their latest releases.
@andrewgiovannini66136 күн бұрын
I just ordered the d70 octo out of curiosity along with the A70 amp. I have a Bifrost 2/64 and mojo 2 to compare it too. Personally the Mojo 2 is my favorite DAC so far. I’ll come back and let you all know how I feel about it. I’ll also try and do some blind testing.
@SLimaster7772 ай бұрын
Hahaha! you made me laugh with "This is the end of my journey"! No my friend, this is the beginning of addiction :D You remember me from 6-7 years ago when I started with HD 660s (OG) and ifi black label. I've also said that this will be my final setup, the end of the journey. You are lying to yourself :D. With the 660s (150 ohm) I had a lot of power from the IFI BL, but what makes that pair work best is the Xbass+ feature! The sound is more organic, controlled and balanced. If you can, try ifi signature with 660s2 and put Xbass+ and I think it will have a good synergy. You can also try the dt770 250 ohm variant. It has better resolution and the bass is more accurate than 80 ohm, but you'll need good amplification. But what you have is enough. Enjoy your equipment, have a wonderful journey through the audio experience!
@SirMesko2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment and advice. It's been a great journey, even though my girlfriend completely misses the point :/ By the way, since making that video, I've upgraded to an AUNE S17 to replace my Topping L30, and it has taken the HD660S2 to a whole new level! I guess this is my end game setup now, haha. At least as far as amping goes, its pure class A magic...
@SLimaster777Ай бұрын
@@SirMesko wait until you will experience some hifiman Arya!😁
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
@@SLimaster777 Oh dear, I'm already wanting to try them
@Tusseboy2 ай бұрын
Love from Sweden
@SirMeskoАй бұрын
Thank you! Love back!
@az9582 ай бұрын
I enjoy my momentum 4 with hiby r3ii through 3.5mm jack too. Sounds beautiful. Even tho with just a dongle on my phone it doesn't sound as good.
@SirMesko2 ай бұрын
I’m happy you’re getting good quality music out of your momentum’s!
@ibassnote2 ай бұрын
I'm waiting for a Mojo3 with built in bluetooth and more modern connections. I can't stand the Poly. Just seems so outdated.
@18yearsoldnotАй бұрын
I absolutely love the poly. You just need a good 5g data plan and create the WiFi network from your phone’s hotspot.
@Cestmoi5026 күн бұрын
I had both the xdsd gryphon an Mojo2, and altough I love the feature set... gryphon is no match for the mojo2. Chord does so understand how to recreate music, I know even own a chord tt2+mscaler and hugo2
@carminedesanto67462 ай бұрын
12:08 We have a collection of equipment and are looking for synergies. Great video. Ps. I love my IFI Go Blue for my IEM’s . As for my over ears ..Bryston BHA-1 headphone/ pre amp. Denafrips 12-1 Ares DAC Amazon Music HD . Audiolab 6000CDT. Main headphones Sen’s 650 and LCDX 2021 .☕️
@SirMesko2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback and sharing a bit of your journey
@carminedesanto67462 ай бұрын
GM from Toronto ☕️ Listening .
@jb6789012 ай бұрын
Why I love the Samsung. Settings adjusted to DEV mode and LDAC is made available. Voila, LDAC with the BTR5. However, if I am bothered to go wired to the phone, then a dongle DAC suits me just fine (Abigail~$13 or CS Pro Audio CS43131 DSD256~$23). Most of the time I prefer using KZ AZ09 Pro BT 5.2 earhooks with a Let Shouer S12 or MP154 or HEXA, in AptX HD.
@Capybarainahumansuit2 ай бұрын
I have focal bathys and they take a while to get used to also. But i ordered these for kiwi orchestra lite so im hoping to enjoy this.
@SirMesko2 ай бұрын
How do the bathys sound like? I tried the H95 and was not very impressed
@Capybarainahumansuit2 ай бұрын
@@SirMesko you know how it is. Subjective. But I like them. The mid is sharp and strong and the bass is weak compared to a lot of headphones that try to over power bass just for people to enjoy them. I also ordered sennheiser ie900 it's coming tomorrow. But I'd say try them out. Give them a day to get used to, they got a 5 band eq and a personal sound program to enhance frequencies you don't naturally hear well. It's my current bluetooth go to. I liked b@w pi7 more as earbuds but there connection issues were unacceptable for me.
@carminedesanto67462 ай бұрын
Good afternoon from Toronto ☕️ I’m still rocking the IFI Go Blue for my portable use …IEM’s exclusively.
@SirMesko2 ай бұрын
It's a great device! Greetings from Arnhem (Netherlands)!
@WhatsOnMyShelf3 ай бұрын
Your review is shifted toward the use case of phones without headphone jacks, but I use bluetooth audio to listen to sources wirelessly as I live in an apartment and work at various distances and directions to the source. I'm glad they still make devices like this since my previous bluetooth audio solution became irreparable. I am upset that the price of these wireless audio solutions have gone up significantly, though the engineering in them has significantly improved since my last purchase over ten years ago. Anyways, I appreciate your insight. I was trying to glean more from those who had a better understand of audio and didn't just hook it up via bluetooth. I wanted to know what I was missing.
@SirMesko2 ай бұрын
Hi, in my experience Bluetooth audio isn’t as clean and HI-FI as wired. As soon as you have decent equipment you’ll notice the difference and nowadays decent equipment is affordable :)
@WhatsOnMyShelf2 ай бұрын
@@SirMesko Oh, definitely. I make a sacrifice so that I don't disturb my neighbors. Before bluetooth, and in my younger more inpractical days, I had a 30ft cord hooked directly to my computer as I walked around my apartment. The Sony bluetooth stereo headsets / amplifiers I then acquired and used over 10+ years were a great convenience. I since purchased the BTR5 2021 and it is phenomenal compared to the three Sony I owned. The BTR5 was able to open up ranges in my meeaudio buds that I didn't even know were there. I have some Audio Technicas which I use when I edited video or audio, but I heard these don't drive large headphones well, plus I would never edit audio or video wirelessly.
@1800_not-me4 ай бұрын
No question about your education and profession but I would like to see a hearing test done by doctor first 😂
@jamesberryman98934 ай бұрын
This really helped as I'm not an Apple person but was gifted an iPad and just bought a Fiio DAC Amp for my Samsung phone. I thought my USB-C to lightning would work for my ipad, but it didn't. I am going to order one of those camera cables. Thank you so much!
@marekskvarek35895 ай бұрын
Absolutely great review! You're a cool guy, and so far, you're my favorite dude on KZread! Thanks for the excellent review!
@joncruz5 ай бұрын
Using this thru wireless connection is like using the dongle, if you wanna see the difference it has to be wired connected to your phone.
@deathtoraiden20805 ай бұрын
You said "pounds" so am i to infer that this is the European version of the Apple dongle? I need to know how good that performs because it outputs half the power of the version of the dongle everywhere else in the world. I find this whole apple dongle situation hilarious because for years i have been hating on audiophiles for being the biggest saps on the planet and allowing companies to sell them 10 dollar electronics for 200 dollars or more and drive the price of audio equipment through the roof, and lo and behold this thing comes along.
@aceventuraaceventura20035 ай бұрын
I like the Dragonfly Cobalt, sound that comes out is similar to my previous bulky setup with ALO International with AK120II using the Etymotics IEM. I can clearly see the motion of the drummer, guitarists in the center, left and right. Amazing. Huge plus is portability, can't beat the convenience. Regarding the harshness, I did not find that to be case at all. I am using Grado SR325X and 10e. I found the sound to be accurate, responsive, a bit bright but it sounds like live music. Sure, you can have complex setup at home with 10x more money, but if portability is the highest priority, Dragonfly Cobalt is the best. I may never go back to separate amp/DAP.
@cxmxc6 ай бұрын
I had the red in sold it I’m not sure if it was defective but it simply sounded weak I used it on mac / iPhone
@mwsaab96 ай бұрын
I bought the BTR5 on the back of this for my iPhone 15. Have seldom been so disappointed in a gadget. Terrible ergonomics ( buttons are too small, zero haptics,…). Once hooked up you can only change the volume using the DAC - iPhone and headphone volume control is disabled. I also have a Zen DAC and there is a huge difference in the audio quality from this compared to the BTR5. Needless to say I sent it back the same day. So still looking for a decent DAC…
@fernandocajero32737 ай бұрын
Too bad I didn’t find your video before I bought one. I really didn’t hear much difference or sound improvement.😢
@ManoharSingh-dg8ih8 ай бұрын
Exactly!! They are super over hyped, I Had same experience with them, I thought mine were defective, thought of getting a dac-amp to improve them but these are not for listening to music at all. Fake reviews are flooded everywhere who hypes them to a crazy level.
@allstar9309 ай бұрын
I also would have preferred phones kept the headphone jack but I own this and the BTR7 and they sound really good to me. I'm glad I can use my preferred headphones and buds with my phone again. My problem with the Apple Dongle is that it's too flimsy for daily use.
@fofocho719 ай бұрын
Also EQ does not work on USB mode
@Michael-ks2yi10 ай бұрын
Is there an easy way to connect an iPhone with this btr5 via DAC wither with an adapter or with something similar? I could just go for Bluetooth to connect my car system and when needed, I’ll use it with my laptop at 192khz at home, but I would love to be able to just output hd audio from my iPhone on the go. Any suggestions would be very appreciated.
@AlbertKel11 ай бұрын
Totally agree. I was shocked when I realized how good it is.
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I have had the Momentum 3 for a couple years now and really rate them. I just bought the H95 and still testing them but I have to agree that the M3 still sound as good if not better than the H95. Especially when you consider the price delta. And for the M3, they have a HiFi EQ setting in the app that dials back the bass in let's the mids and highs come through more. Have you tried this?
How much is the difference in resolution of sound? Between these And did you heard sony z1r?
@@RX-rd4sc when it comes to resolution the source is very important. Good headphones will reveal a lot more detail with a good source. If you are listening on Spotify you might not take full advantage of a resolving headphone for example. Dac and amp also play a role and you want to have good enough gear to make use of high quality files. To my hears the HD660S2 are much more resolving and detailed than the D7200.
@@SirMesko do you think its because of closed back vs open back nature? The difference in resolution
@@RX-rd4sc No! Closed backs tend to be more boxy sounding but the difference I saw wasn’t to do with that, but rather the inability of the Denons driver to play detail. It felt to me like it was missing tweeters if you like. Something really off with the sound. A lack of hi fidelity
Orgulho ver a minha bandeira, quanto ao assunto, tenho o senn hd560s e estou pensando em adquirir um novo headphone, pergunto-me se nessa faixa de preço algum vai soar melhor q o q tenho, tenho ainda uma vasta colecção de iems.
@@portugasanwa viva Portugal! Nunca ouvi os HD560s e gostava de experimentar. Pelo que vejo online of HD660S2 estão acima em todas as categorias sonoras. Boas viagens
Hi , interesting video, it may be an idea to fit a headband sponge like I did with my old senn hd575 as it didn’t have one at all, also my old senn has thicker Earpad’s, 32mm , so I fitted those to my 660s, and 6xx now they are even more comfortable. Regards mark
I got the Chord Mojo 2 a few months ago. I've had several daca before, including Dragonfly red, Cayin ru6, from FiiO... The Chord Mojo 2 has had rhe biggest agfevt across all my IEMs akd headphones. It's brilliant! I wasn't that wow'd by my Truth Ear Hexas or Sennheiser IE600 until I used them with the Chord which added depth, musicality and more.
Remarkable device. IE600 sounds amazing through it!
Also, a detail most people don’t seem to “click with” is that, running power and audio signal separately, is advantageous to SNR, via the micro USB and USB C.
Yes very well engineering in that sense too
Power delivery from mains has always been superior in terms of output, however, it must be noted that a battery provides the cleanest signal due to its isolation in a signal path. Actually bought the Mojo 2 because of your enthusiasm for the sound quality. One can’t deny our emotional connection to music and it seems that the Mojo 2 provides that in droves 🥰
I am very happy to know my review was useful to your purchasing decision! Welcome to the Mojo 2!
Thanks for the review. I own large headphone collection including the Senns 600 and 800s which i adore. However, the 7200 are my favourite closed-backs. Indeed, they are naturally with excesive bass and lacking trebble, but after EQ those are simply SOTA. My 2Cs.
I really wanted to like them but they were not for me. I’m glad you enjoy them so much! Happy listening :)
It's so painful finding a good closed back headphone, I have many headphones but I keep going back to my ATH M50X, I just want the low end of the M50X coupled with more refined mids and highs. Good comparison and review, thanks.
Why is it so painful I wonder?i got the same feeling.The best I have so far is the Momentum 3 in wired mode. However, it could be more refined. Thinking Focals now
Did you get a good seal?
Yeah I did. Once you get used to positioning them lightly on your ears they seal fine.
This is what happens when you give a sennheiser fan boy a different brand to review. Biased from the start. Dont bother doing reviews when you have a conflict of interest.
Easy tigger, I’m not a Sennheiser fanboy, I’m a good sound fanboy!
⭐$800.00 dollars? RIPOFF! Get the FIIO KA11 $40.00 dollars. Top notch AMP/DAC.💲💲💜💛💜
I’m glad you found your DAC/AMP! I know the Mojo 2 is horrendous money in the US
The chord is way better but it comes down to budget (I've got both). Better than the Fiio is the Onix Alpha for around $100.
I am not sure if you configured the sound of 7200 correctly? To me the bass is very important because I am watching movies with headphones and I don't believe open back HD660S2 are good in that regard. They look more comfortable but in terms of watching movies with them they are probably not as good as 7200.
Yes the bass on the HD660S2 is not so present but I found it to be deeper and cleaner than the 7200. Not sure what configuration is required. mojo 2 connected to an Aune S17 is all the configuration required right?
S17 shits all over the a70 pro.
That it does
I do wish the S17 had all the cool features of the a70 @@SirMesko
@@ancientalien815 well, it’s got the main feature, which is sound quality ;) What features did you want more?
@@SirMesko The ability to turn the pre amp out on and off, select which output you want to use RCA/XLR, also has selectable headphone output with volume level memory, a70 has way better volume control and gain stages. Really the a70 only lacks in the sound department. In all other aspects its a very good device. I should have said the s17 shits on the a70 as far as sound goes. Not to say the a70 sounds bad at all. Just not as good as s17.
@@ancientalien815 as you say the A70 is a very well specced device indeed, it’s even got a screen! However the S17 does all I need from an amp. Sound in, magic, sound out :) All the extra features in the topping are bound to divert budget away from the audio components. An S17 with all those features would not cost what it costs.
with your iems exclusively is there a very noticeable difference between all these dacs (including the apple dongle) ? thanks
Yes! Unquestionably! If you have good IEMs you’ll notice the difference
I wonder if you liked it the same way with Topping NX7, even more portable❗️😃
Thank you❗️👍Is it true that it takes around 30min for the Mojo 2 to warm up and sound good ❓
Good question. I have a big desktop amp, an Aune S17 and that needs to warm up to sound best. With the Mojo 2 can’t say that I notice a meaningful difference :)
Iam thinking about Aune S17 pro, actually wonder how would it sound with Mojo 2 as a dac..😊
@@jaroslavfricek7772 well that’s my setup and sounds lovely! It’s like having that Mojo2 sound with more punch, openness and drive. I preferred it over the topping D70pro octo.
Apple Dongle doesn't have much power, if you like listening loud.
That it doesn’t. The Fiio is far more powerful
Already have and indeed VERY special!! Powers all nanner of IEMs to full potential. Even planar. Even work amazing with low imedance full size HP like Verum2 ( 8 ohms). This may very well be my last SS Dac. The expense to get a very marginal improvement AND EQ are extreme (3 to 4x). I was at Headfi NY and my phone and Mojo2 combo were giving $2k+ DAPs the sweats!!! I also have an IFI Signature Pro for BIG HP. But dont use nearly as much as Mojo...
The Mojo 2 is a very sweet sounding device. My only regret is not having got sooner. It really added layers to my music like nothing prior. For full cans I still think it works best with an amp. The sound, especially the bass gets tighter and cleaner with an amp. I got it paired to an Aune S17 amp and I am getting all that Mojo 2 sound with steroids :)
I pair this tiny with valve amp (cayin 55 kt88) and it sounds fantastic !!! with both phone (meze 109pro) and stereo system (kef ls50 meta)
I have the OH7 as replacement for IE80s for 3yrs now, I love how relaxing and comfortable it sounds. The super wide soundstage and the bass is just butter!!!! The issue with OH7 is OXIDATION because the copper body turns dull quickly and it releases a green substance specially at the bottom of the ear tips. NEVER EVER think of using it for workout or any activity that involves sweating because of the oxidation I mentioned, at will smell rotten metal if you don't clean it. I worry that there might be oxidation inside but so far 3yrs of use no any issue. But I will always recommend OH7 to anyone because I use it more often than my Adromeda-gold and Polaris2 and even stopped using my Ananda.
It's great to connect with someone else who appreciates the beautiful music delivery of the OH7! I also experience issues with green oxidation and constant maintenance, but I overlook it because of the powerful, smooth, and musical sound that I haven't found anywhere else.
I have the OH7 as replacement for IE80s for 3yrs now, I love how relaxing and comfortable it sounds. The super wide soundstage and the bass is just butter!!!! The issue with OH7 is OXIDATION because the copper body turns dull quickly and it releases a green substance specially at the bottom of the ear tips. NEVER EVER think of using it for workout or any activity that involves sweating because of the oxidation I mentioned, at will smell rotten metal if you don't clean it. I worry that there might be oxidation inside but so far 3yrs of use no any issue. But I will always recommend OH7 to anyone because I use it more often than my Adromeda-gold and Polaris2 and even stopped using my Ananda.
You are answering all the questions i have. Thanks
Glad you find my video helpful :)
That dongle would constantly fuck my music audio levels up. i just started carrying my lg v30 i bought on swappa for like $50 with burn in an cracked screen and owned for 5 years at this point and dont' really care if i drop or break as my dedicated headphone jack device.
During my audio journey, I was a fan of HTC phones. I thought about switching to LG, but I never actually made the switch. It seems like everyone is embracing wireless technology and phone manufacturers don't seem to prioritise great audio for music lovers. So, using dongles is often the only way to enjoy good audio on the go, or resorting to an old, worn-out LG phone as you did, unless you're willing to spend loads on a DAP.
@@SirMesko they are worth it for a spare device. My v30 still has a higher res led than most phones, micro SD,and the headphone jack. It's the perfect iPod touch replacement imo. I was cleaning up recently and my mother didn't want this old bose cd player with speakers. I dug up the correct cable and now it's on my bedside for listening to music while I clean or a podcast at bedtime.
Good review. Topping is known for chasing measurements over soud quality. The ifi gryphon is holographic, but you have to use the 4.4 balanced jack, not the SE 3.5.
Topping has always represented excellent price-performance ratio. Sound quality is pretty much a matter of preference really (as stated in the video). I actually like their trademark sound - not their erarly stuff that was a bit harsh - but a very clean, transparent and neutralish approach. They have lots of models with different tonalitys right now. I think it's hard for someone not to like some of their units.
@@JoseFerreira-zb7wh to each their own. i tried the topping L70 which is a fairly recent product. the upper mids/treble were harsh, bass was lacking, and the imaging and sound stage was a wall of sound. analytical and fatiguing mess, imo. it measures great, but you can't listen to graphs. IMO schiit does a way better job of good price to performance ratio. Plus made in the U.S.A.
@@corrrect opinions i got with the l70 were actually pretty different. Again, a matter of preference.
I thought the Gryphon sounded pretty amazing, especially with the GTO filter! However, despite all the excellent features and technical ability, in the end, I still preferred the more musical and richer sound from the Mojo 2! A curious finding was that the 4.4mm at the back sounded better to my ears than the 4.4mm at the front on the Gryphon. I agree that Topping's sound can be a bit sterile. It is very clean and measures well, but it is not very musical, though that seems to be changing with their latest releases.
I just ordered the d70 octo out of curiosity along with the A70 amp. I have a Bifrost 2/64 and mojo 2 to compare it too. Personally the Mojo 2 is my favorite DAC so far. I’ll come back and let you all know how I feel about it. I’ll also try and do some blind testing.
Hahaha! you made me laugh with "This is the end of my journey"! No my friend, this is the beginning of addiction :D You remember me from 6-7 years ago when I started with HD 660s (OG) and ifi black label. I've also said that this will be my final setup, the end of the journey. You are lying to yourself :D. With the 660s (150 ohm) I had a lot of power from the IFI BL, but what makes that pair work best is the Xbass+ feature! The sound is more organic, controlled and balanced. If you can, try ifi signature with 660s2 and put Xbass+ and I think it will have a good synergy. You can also try the dt770 250 ohm variant. It has better resolution and the bass is more accurate than 80 ohm, but you'll need good amplification. But what you have is enough. Enjoy your equipment, have a wonderful journey through the audio experience!
Thanks for your comment and advice. It's been a great journey, even though my girlfriend completely misses the point :/ By the way, since making that video, I've upgraded to an AUNE S17 to replace my Topping L30, and it has taken the HD660S2 to a whole new level! I guess this is my end game setup now, haha. At least as far as amping goes, its pure class A magic...
@@SirMesko wait until you will experience some hifiman Arya!😁
@@SLimaster777 Oh dear, I'm already wanting to try them
Love from Sweden
Thank you! Love back!
I enjoy my momentum 4 with hiby r3ii through 3.5mm jack too. Sounds beautiful. Even tho with just a dongle on my phone it doesn't sound as good.
I’m happy you’re getting good quality music out of your momentum’s!
I'm waiting for a Mojo3 with built in bluetooth and more modern connections. I can't stand the Poly. Just seems so outdated.
I absolutely love the poly. You just need a good 5g data plan and create the WiFi network from your phone’s hotspot.
I had both the xdsd gryphon an Mojo2, and altough I love the feature set... gryphon is no match for the mojo2. Chord does so understand how to recreate music, I know even own a chord tt2+mscaler and hugo2
12:08 We have a collection of equipment and are looking for synergies. Great video. Ps. I love my IFI Go Blue for my IEM’s . As for my over ears ..Bryston BHA-1 headphone/ pre amp. Denafrips 12-1 Ares DAC Amazon Music HD . Audiolab 6000CDT. Main headphones Sen’s 650 and LCDX 2021 .☕️
Thanks for your feedback and sharing a bit of your journey
GM from Toronto ☕️ Listening .
Why I love the Samsung. Settings adjusted to DEV mode and LDAC is made available. Voila, LDAC with the BTR5. However, if I am bothered to go wired to the phone, then a dongle DAC suits me just fine (Abigail~$13 or CS Pro Audio CS43131 DSD256~$23). Most of the time I prefer using KZ AZ09 Pro BT 5.2 earhooks with a Let Shouer S12 or MP154 or HEXA, in AptX HD.
I have focal bathys and they take a while to get used to also. But i ordered these for kiwi orchestra lite so im hoping to enjoy this.
How do the bathys sound like? I tried the H95 and was not very impressed
@@SirMesko you know how it is. Subjective. But I like them. The mid is sharp and strong and the bass is weak compared to a lot of headphones that try to over power bass just for people to enjoy them. I also ordered sennheiser ie900 it's coming tomorrow. But I'd say try them out. Give them a day to get used to, they got a 5 band eq and a personal sound program to enhance frequencies you don't naturally hear well. It's my current bluetooth go to. I liked b@w pi7 more as earbuds but there connection issues were unacceptable for me.
Good afternoon from Toronto ☕️ I’m still rocking the IFI Go Blue for my portable use …IEM’s exclusively.
It's a great device! Greetings from Arnhem (Netherlands)!
Your review is shifted toward the use case of phones without headphone jacks, but I use bluetooth audio to listen to sources wirelessly as I live in an apartment and work at various distances and directions to the source. I'm glad they still make devices like this since my previous bluetooth audio solution became irreparable. I am upset that the price of these wireless audio solutions have gone up significantly, though the engineering in them has significantly improved since my last purchase over ten years ago. Anyways, I appreciate your insight. I was trying to glean more from those who had a better understand of audio and didn't just hook it up via bluetooth. I wanted to know what I was missing.
Hi, in my experience Bluetooth audio isn’t as clean and HI-FI as wired. As soon as you have decent equipment you’ll notice the difference and nowadays decent equipment is affordable :)
@@SirMesko Oh, definitely. I make a sacrifice so that I don't disturb my neighbors. Before bluetooth, and in my younger more inpractical days, I had a 30ft cord hooked directly to my computer as I walked around my apartment. The Sony bluetooth stereo headsets / amplifiers I then acquired and used over 10+ years were a great convenience. I since purchased the BTR5 2021 and it is phenomenal compared to the three Sony I owned. The BTR5 was able to open up ranges in my meeaudio buds that I didn't even know were there. I have some Audio Technicas which I use when I edited video or audio, but I heard these don't drive large headphones well, plus I would never edit audio or video wirelessly.
No question about your education and profession but I would like to see a hearing test done by doctor first 😂
This really helped as I'm not an Apple person but was gifted an iPad and just bought a Fiio DAC Amp for my Samsung phone. I thought my USB-C to lightning would work for my ipad, but it didn't. I am going to order one of those camera cables. Thank you so much!
Absolutely great review! You're a cool guy, and so far, you're my favorite dude on KZread! Thanks for the excellent review!
Using this thru wireless connection is like using the dongle, if you wanna see the difference it has to be wired connected to your phone.
You said "pounds" so am i to infer that this is the European version of the Apple dongle? I need to know how good that performs because it outputs half the power of the version of the dongle everywhere else in the world. I find this whole apple dongle situation hilarious because for years i have been hating on audiophiles for being the biggest saps on the planet and allowing companies to sell them 10 dollar electronics for 200 dollars or more and drive the price of audio equipment through the roof, and lo and behold this thing comes along.
I like the Dragonfly Cobalt, sound that comes out is similar to my previous bulky setup with ALO International with AK120II using the Etymotics IEM. I can clearly see the motion of the drummer, guitarists in the center, left and right. Amazing. Huge plus is portability, can't beat the convenience. Regarding the harshness, I did not find that to be case at all. I am using Grado SR325X and 10e. I found the sound to be accurate, responsive, a bit bright but it sounds like live music. Sure, you can have complex setup at home with 10x more money, but if portability is the highest priority, Dragonfly Cobalt is the best. I may never go back to separate amp/DAP.
I had the red in sold it I’m not sure if it was defective but it simply sounded weak I used it on mac / iPhone
I bought the BTR5 on the back of this for my iPhone 15. Have seldom been so disappointed in a gadget. Terrible ergonomics ( buttons are too small, zero haptics,…). Once hooked up you can only change the volume using the DAC - iPhone and headphone volume control is disabled. I also have a Zen DAC and there is a huge difference in the audio quality from this compared to the BTR5. Needless to say I sent it back the same day. So still looking for a decent DAC…
Too bad I didn’t find your video before I bought one. I really didn’t hear much difference or sound improvement.😢
Exactly!! They are super over hyped, I Had same experience with them, I thought mine were defective, thought of getting a dac-amp to improve them but these are not for listening to music at all. Fake reviews are flooded everywhere who hypes them to a crazy level.
I also would have preferred phones kept the headphone jack but I own this and the BTR7 and they sound really good to me. I'm glad I can use my preferred headphones and buds with my phone again. My problem with the Apple Dongle is that it's too flimsy for daily use.
Also EQ does not work on USB mode
Is there an easy way to connect an iPhone with this btr5 via DAC wither with an adapter or with something similar? I could just go for Bluetooth to connect my car system and when needed, I’ll use it with my laptop at 192khz at home, but I would love to be able to just output hd audio from my iPhone on the go. Any suggestions would be very appreciated.
Totally agree. I was shocked when I realized how good it is.
Lol AAC obviously it sounds awful
What do u mean with “sounds faster”?