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Dont think starting xp grants advances.
I double checked this today and good call, this is correct for standard campaign play. I am not sure which expansion or town crier (maybe it wasn't an official one) but I have actually seen and played with rules for starting XP, and another for buying advancements but I haven't had the time to look up the page # and whatnot for those.
I feel like legion is going downhill since Alex davy left and amg took over, they they got rid of Luke Eddy as well and not theyre makign this game more and more in like with AMG style of gaming. How this whole thing got released (published as print and play but only a HALF of it, physical cards comming out in a YEAR) is either an april fools joke or shows how unproffesional they are, thos whole thing feels very rushed and unproffessional, many changes just for the sake of making changes OR to force people to buy more stuff. My main army is the republic and im still trying to figure out what the fuck happened to my fav faction ive been playing since it was released (and played them in 2020 eu championships despite having only phase 1s, barc speeders rex and obi to work with). Im very concerned about the future of the game but also ive been kinda seing signs that amg have no idea what theyre doing
Thank you so much for the detailed response! I agree with you, it feels like some of the changes are a little questionable. We are going into a new game system that's encouraging/offering larger unit count, which is strange because they also stated they wanted to counter larger dice pools (which kinda goes hand and hand with larger units and overall points lol)... AND I noticed a lot of units had their dice pools either increased or improved leading to greater hit success %, maybe some of them needed the buff but it just seems to be leading to the idea of larger attack pools than ever. I can see how the new cover system would kinda mitigate this but it also seems to come with a huge element of randomness. I do want to try the new rules out before I entrench myself to deeply one way or another, but I am kinda nervous about them and the design philosophy of AMG. I agree sense the takeover alot of the Star Wars products have not been handled the way I would like, I am obvs not a company CEO nor do i understand a lot of the complexities involved with taking ownership of these games but I'm normally a little skeptical when I look at a new change/products released by them, and these rule updates are no exception. Sorry the changes effect the Republic so drastically, you clearly played them at a much higher level than me! I did look at a couple of the Republic unit changes and as I mentioned in the video I do play them but less so than Empire and Rebels (still played a lot of games with them, and I'm also a phase 1 commander!!!), Rebel changes have taken my focus the past couple days (might be playing rebels with the new rules in a tournament not 100% sure yet), which is why I was so salty about the transport changes. I just got my van fully painted and looking cool with a custom squad of gamorrean guard to haul around (wookie proxy) and now it seems so useless... so I feel you some things just seem completely crap now, or at the very least need to be completely recontextualized strategically. Hope for the best with the future of legion, I do love this game and have played it sense the start so it would be a shame to see it end, but these new rules and their presentation haven't left me feeling confident with the future. Will have to see what kind of impressions everyone has after some serious playtesting and experimenting, and in that regard I also hope for the best.
Changes are good especially quality of models. I think once we have the anti changers leave we will be in a good spot the play groups in my city have noticed that generally the people that are being loud about the changes especially having to print cards are the people that we avoid playing with anyways
@@MatthewBreck in what way transport changes are "good"?
@@MatthewBreck Sorry if this is a bit of a rant, but I wanna say I don't think people being critical about rule changes/editions of a game is something to invalidate. A lot of folks (myself included) have been playing this game sense day 1 and loved the product that was given to us. I have told my fellow tabletop hobbyists for years now that Legion is one of the most solid games I have ever played, and over those years I have felt little need to even make the changes that they have... but I have still learned them and played/enjoyed the game. This is a lot more than that and is what I would consider an entirely new edition of the game. The comment originally made here was someone who played their army at a high tournament level and I would guess to get to that point they had to put a lot of effort into learning all the armies, metas, and the rules of the game. As such that's someone's opinion I especially appreciate to read, be it positive or negative in nature eithers fine! Especially if they can convey their reasoning clearly (which I think they did). The same extends to yours which is clearly a more positive outlook, which is why as I stated in the video I am open to some of the rules being presented, skeptical of others, and confused on a few. I want to play test the new rules and see how it feels before I entrench myself to strongly one way or another but I don't think discussing or sharing your impressions is something to be discredited. Having said all that I totally agree the new wave refresh look great, and I also think some of the new releases like Thrawn, Probe Droids, and even mounted characters seem interesting. I was a little bummed to see no AT-AT lol it felt like it would have been perfect with the point increase!!!!! Even if its only for non tournament play it would of been so cooool.... I was also sad to see environmental effects removed then essentially put back in for non tournament play as random planetary effects... BUT I also think this is really really really cool for people looking to play more casually or narratively, and it gives tonssss of awesome ideas for terrain to fit the theme of the planet/effects you use. Some of the combos could be goofy maybe even OP with certain armies, but I really think this is an idea that on certain themed boards could be so awesome. I also understand there are negative people out here especially nowadays trying to just bring on the hate for the sake of hating, and for whatever reason they even play the game despite being miserable with it (guessing these are the folks you had at your store), and I hope I have not come across like that. I am not trying to be all doom and gloom, and am keeping my eye on some of the new stuff, and also playing a game with the new rules soon, and also don't want legion to just die off tomorrow and no one will ever play or make another product for it ever again... At the very least if I don't enjoy the new rules I'll play the old ones and convert new product over to the old system to keep things fresh. Hopefully it won't come to that and legion still ends up being a really fun game. Sorry for the lengthy response but I appreciate when you folks give me your opinion and want you to know I am genuinely giving them thoughtful consideration.
This is an awesome themed list! I really hope AMG delves more into scum and villainy over time, but proxying like this could be a great way to get some hordes of gangsters and cool aliens.
38:14 I like your listing, in addition to those changes I would suggest: Spear that is not used with both hands -1 to WS Offhand weapon/Shield/Buckler +1 to WS for defending purpose
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No slayer army is a big miss in my opinion
agreed. I am still hopeful that if you take Ungrim it will give you some kind of special rule for running them as core/the 25% needed to make a list.. but this is obvs just my speculation and will have to see when the release finally drops! They also showed doom seekers during the adepticon reveal awhile back so I am also really hoping to get rules for them and maybe malakai
Beautiful Dwarfs Cam, excellent video
kzread.info/dash/bejne/moRm18aQZK7Vos4.html Where is it stated that a double 1 or double 6 in mordheim means anything?
Sorry that is actually a somewhat redundant rule from larger scale Warhammer Fantasy, but it does still apply to Mordheim. Unless I am mistaken nothing that would take a leadership test in the game has a value less than 2, nor could it be reduced to that through campaign injuries. This means I would always pass a leadership test on double 1s and the same for double 6s would always fail. No leadership can be increased beyond 10 atleast according to the base games max characteristic chart.
I played so many games, especially GW games even ones that were obsolete by the time I was a child (I inherited a massive collection from two of my brothers), but Mordheim is the only one I played consistently.
Love to hear that! You two have favorite warbands to run? Mine is Dwarf Treasure Hunters, was the first crew I ever ran + painted up.
The nocturnal lizards are ready to meet steel with bone and teeth
This overview is very helpful, thank you for putting it together. I'd also like to say the background music goes hard!
Legion forewer 🎉
Do u have a video of this project awwsome work
Thanks for the compliment! Sadly didn't do a proper full length tutorial on painting and building this monster... but whenever the next kaiju stomps onto the table I will 100% make a video covering everything!
@@camwardart thank you
Thank you for this overview
Hey Cam, this video came across my recommended list. We played each other in Game 3! Good games and it was fun to see you recap the game from your perspective. I really misplayed my shoretroopers and didn't get much out of them. Your Gamoreang Guards/Wookies shreadded me up as they pouring out of the bus and got right into melee. And you moved your bus really well too and totally blocked me out of the center area. Fun game Old Boba vs Young Boba. And thanks for the compliments on my paintings too. Much appreciated. Loved your Book of Boba themed list - ton of fun to see the whole theme together. Looking forward to playing again some time!
Thank you so much for reaching out, that game was an absolute blast! I also had plenty of misplays, I remember my Boba had some exchanges with IG that went bad quick in our match lol next time I gotta hustle him to safety or something. Also next time we play I have to get some actually nice pictures of your army for the channel. I'll make a post on the community page beforehand and message you, end of July if you are around I will be back in the area for a couple weeks would be great to get another game of legion in. Either way I am eagerly looking forward to the next battle!
@@camwardart sounds good Cam! Would enjoy playing with again!
the rules writer and creator of mordheim is still active on the community facebook. He said circle bases are fine. You even see circle bases being used in official mordheim photos from back in the day.
That's awesome glad the creators still so active. Idk why I am apart of 10+ warhammer related facebook groups but the mordheim one I have somehow slept on.... So now im going to change that!
Yeah dude! I'm basing my bretonnians/beastmen on circle bases too, because they look better, more room for bits and bobs to spice them up.
awesome. Is there anything like a "Here are the appropriate size to use" or is it basically fine if we're using circles somewhere in the 25-40 range based on what looks fine or what the sculpt we're converting from came with
@@Crushanator1 yea basicly what you said, 25-40 depending on what the model is. I think 32 is the most popular for aesthetic reasons. Where 25mm puts you at a slight advantage for gameplay but im not even sure if its noticeable.
@@Crushanator1 at 4:25 I have the chart up for all the old official square bases. I personally feel like if you wanted to add an additional 5mm for these bases converting them over to circles that's totally fine, at this stage even adding 5mm for the square base sizes would probably be fine with majority of Mordheim players, alot of them (myself included) also play Old World which literally upped the base sizes of most miniatures by 5mm, and if someone wanted to play a game of Mordheim with me using their Old World minis I would never say no. I think the most important thing is just make sure your opponent/play group know what you're going with and try to stay consistent with the whole warband.
Sorry every1 error in the timestamps, I fixed it in the description but anyone looking to skip ahead to... Warband+ Campaign Rules 1:01:33. That is all 🤪
I LOVE this! And I find it very cool that about a year ago I made a very similar list with a similar theme. It’s not so much based on The Book of Boba Fett, but the world of that show. Here is the story: A group of rag tag rebel vets (with a sniper squad) led by a retired rebel officer have run into some trouble with the Pine Syndicate. They meet up with Boba in the local cantina, where you can see some Fleet Troopers in the background on shore leave enjoying some drinks. They hire Boba and his bike gang to help with their situation. Boba runs into an issue or two and calls on a special force. 10 years earlier a crack team of Wookies were sent to a military prison for a crime they didn’t commit. These Wookies promptly escaped the prison to the Tatooine underground. Today, still wanted by what is left of the Empire, they live as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if you have no one else that can help, if you can find them, you can call… the W-Team. Here is my list: Boba Narative 799/800 (10 activations) Commanders: - Rebel Officer (45): Improvised Orders (5), Portable Scanner (6) = 56 Operative: - Boba Fett (120): Hunter (6), Tenacity (6), Emergency Stims (8), Prepared Supplies (5) = 145 Corps: - Rebel Veterans (48): Comms Technician (9), Situational Awareness (4), HQ Uplink (10) = 71 - Medium Blaster Trooper (38): Linked Targeting Array (5) = 43 - Fleet Troopers (40): Barrage Trooper (19) = 59 - Pyke Syndicate Foot Soldiers (44): Electro-Whip Soldier (10), Pyke Syndicate Capo (18) = 72 Special Forces: - Wookiee Warriors (69): Bowcaster Wookiee (31), Tenacity (6) = 106 - Commando Strike Team (20): DH-447 Sniper (28) = 48 Support: - Swoop Bike Riders (65): Comms Jammer (5) = 70 Heavy: - A-A5 Speeder Truck (75): Reckless Driver (12), Refurbished "Gonk" Droid (14), AG-2G Quad Laser (25), Onboard Comms Channel (3) = 129 Commands: • A Simple Man, • Whipcord Launcher, •• ZX Flame Projector, •• Making His Way in the Galaxy, ••• Z-6 Jetpack Rocket, ••• Covering Fire, •••• Standing Orders Anyway, loved the video and thank you for sharing!!!!!
Where do you find the characters?
www.myminifactory.com/users/Foe%20Figures for the jawa blackremnant.gumroad.com/ for the gamorrean guard and tusken raiders anvilrage.com/ for the hero's like Fennec A lot of other good files to be found on those pages. If you are looking for physical prints instead of STL files I'd recommend going to Etsy and searching for the file on there, or seeing if the creator offers a physical print service on their page. hope this helps!!
"If either participant in a challenge is mounted, their mount (including the crew of a chariot) must direct its attacks against the other participant. If the rival participant is slain before a mount's attacks are made (because the mount has a lower Initiative, for example), the mount's attacks may be made against the rival as normal for the purposes of Overkill." So from this i think his rider should have gotten his attacks.
thank you!
The Grail knights should've lost 3 models from the Banshee unless they passed their ward saves.
You are correct, they almost all passed the ward saves and I think it was on the 6+ ward save sense the scream has no strength value assigned to it. That damn lady of the lake!!!! I didn't notice until afterwards when making the video, but if I was a bit of a smarter general I would of had my necromancer near that banshee casting spirit leech, giving the grails an extra -2 Ld, and a few more of those lucky 6+ ward saves to pass! The bretonnians had their wizard on the opposite side of the battlefield, so I think I could have even cast it without them getting a chance at dispelling. I am fairly sure that's how it works unless I am missing a rule on modifiers (which I could be still learning a lot about the game). I made that same play against a chaos dwarf player a couple weeks ago (scream+spirit leech), and I managed to kill 5 maybe 6 Ironsworn with one scream! TBH I might have still been feeling the high of that game and been a little to reckless with her in this one lol.
Very nice man, keep it up!
With taking saves with the Motley Crew special rule, my understanding would be that the Minotaur player would slow roll wounds against the shield one until it dies then uses the different save characteristic while allocating any remaining wounds towards the great weapons. This is because while swinging into the unit the wounds would bleed over and it’s up to the opponent to allocate who dies. Now if you specifically allocated attacks against specific models (example champion) then those wounds wouldn’t bleed over.
Hey everyone just had a comment point out to me in my latest battle report that VAMPIRES CANNOT WEAR ARMOR AND CAST SPELLS IN THIS EDITION. this was a major goof up on my part in the battle against the empire, obvs as I mention in these first couple battle reports I am still learning the game but my vampire in that battle was a level 2 and I know for a fact he cast Raise Dead atleast once during our battle, and he had a good armor save in the melee combat with the halb units so this was not legal. My necromancer did get the majority of the casting done during that battle but this was a clear mistake I made, so apologies for that
Hey folks bit of a spoiler, as a comment pointed out (I tried to talk about this in the battle report but It was not clear enough) The Vampire IS A WIZARD AND PAID FOR THE BLOOD LINE UPGRADE TO BE A LEVEL 1 WIZARD. AGAIN HE IS ONLY A LEVEL 1 AND BECAUSE OF THAT WILL NOT GET A SINGLE SPELL OFF OVER THE ENTIRE BATTLE, AND POSSIBLY ONLY 1 INVOCATION. The empire wizard was level 3, and completely outclassed my magic. Sorry I did not make this clear enough in my battle report. I try and just put together the after report as best I can and am sure I am going to miss things on occasion, I'm fairly sure it was one of my last minute purchases for the list, and I scrapped a single unit champ to fit it in. That's about it. Thanks for reading and watching the video.
Its important to emphasis this for all the other Old World Players because (as the original comment pointed out), you DO NEED A WIZARD TO RUN YOUR UNDEAD ARMIES.
The spell was Raise Undead for anyone wondering
But now you can't wear armor and cast on vampires (for some reason?) so I messed up on that lol, its a good thing I didn't get a single one of those spells off the entire game or I would have felt really bad about screwing over my opponent lololol
Can't run a VC army without a wizard
the vamp was a level 1 wizard that doesn't "count"? Sorry I made a comment about it later in the video, but I forgot he was a level 1 during the start because he was so outclassed by the empire battle wizard he didn't get a single spell off the entire game, other than I think 1 invocation but even that I might have sadly failed
I goofed up on that+ totally my fault.. I should have went back and edited the list when I realized it later in the battle report to make it a little more clear. I really didn't get a single spell off the entire battle so it got foolishly overlooked
@@camwardart In that case, your Vampire can't wear armor and use a shield. Though I'm sure your opponent didn't mind at all, just something to keep in mind for the future.
@UnlimitedAuthority that i had no idea about at all. in all editions i ever played of the game they could cast spells without any issue in armor. I really don't understand why they needed to change such a specific thing but that is interesting and changes quite abit to be honest.
@@UnlimitedAuthority also this is a little silly.. but technically can't that vampire be a wizard, wear armor, and just not bother casting any spells and still fulfill all the requirements?
If your unit strength is more than double the unit strength of the opponent and they roll a “fall back in good order” result, they flee instead. Just a heads up.
Hey thanks for the comment and actually remembered this rule mid battle because of your post. Only problem was I was frantically looking though the 400 page rule book trying to reference the specific page # and couldn't find it at that moment lol but we solved it all shortly after.
A very interesting take and assessment. Rather than being a mish mash I would say this edition tries to extract the best parts from various older editions! I believe you can reform in combat though I haven't seen anyone on YT do it. And I haven't read the actual rulebook just an online summary which may be wrong. Any how - after you fall back in good order you rally. After you rally you may reform. QED. This does mean that Falling Back in good order may be a better outcome than giving ground, which seems a bit wrong though giving ground implies you are not doing too badly in the first place. Anyhow I hope to get my hands on an actual rulebook soon to be able to get a better understanding of it.
Thank you for the video I havent played ow yet. I think you provided a balanced opinion on the game. Two things I would mention though as a 6th edition player Minotaurs were always core if you have a Doom Bull and at least then they were just T4 and still went down pretty easy. While Brets with the lance formation were pretty OP so glad they were not as good as chaos nights in combat who cant do the lance. Anyway just two little things.
that's really interesting, and tbh I never knew that about 6th beastmen. I played 6th back in the day quite a bit, but admittingly the GW I went to had little to no beastmen players and I never got their old army rulebook so I probs never would have known that if you hadn't made this comment. So thank you very much for the knowledge! And that's fair about lance formation giving an edge over chaos knights. My biggest beef was more so the logic+lore hyping up grail knights so much in the army book then comparing stat for stat them with chaos knights and feeling like they are "actually" the lesser unit. Which as your comment mentioned is somewhat flawed logic... grails have lance (and some other little things like living saints/blessing of lady/magic attack wepons etc) so I think I was probably just being dramatic lol and probs jelly of the cool factor + swagger that chaos knights have
@@camwardart yes I see your point regarding the lore it is annoying when the lore and the game do not match up well. Cheers
Interesting and powerful army thanks. Still photo battle reports are a welcome revival, too.
First, keep on playing and having a blast. Second, it is CAV-AL-RY. Not CAL-VAR-Y. Calvary is a place. Good luck to ya!
Also, “moral’ is different than “morale”. I think that my morale has improved because of your inspirational video; plus, you seem like a very cordial guy with great moral fiber, so it would be fun to have a game with you.
@@mrsnakesmrnot8499 thanks!
Good stuff!
Good job, bud
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Great video bud, keep it up
thanks!
Fun video thanks. Maybe lower the music in the background
Love this one!
Did you mention a halfling forum page? Keep up the good work
Thanks for the comment! I don't believe I mentioned a forum page, and I don't think I can post a link to my google drive that has the rulebook... However I did find this reddit post that has a link to the 8th edition halfling rulebook if you want to check it out. I know the author made other updated ones but I wanted one that was made for 8th edition. Hope this helps! www.reddit.com/r/WarhammerFantasy/comments/yn2tks/my_dads_halfling_army_if_you_guys_know_of_any_8e/
Were you buy points wise from the 6th edition book or limiting yourself to the choices of what was in the old codex??
Heyhey thanks for asking! Everything being used by the Vampire Counts is right out of the 6th edition book. Stats, point cost, spells, etc.
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nice
This league / campaign seems wonderfully whimsical and an excellent way to get people together to play games. Huge fan! Keep up the good work.
thank you so much!!!
Wood elves of the eternal realm will claim victory!
Final battle right is close... Wood Elves on team Ghidorah are possibly the hardest hitting and fastest moving faction out of the lot. Will see if they turn the tide for Ghidorah this weekend!
No one would guess the god that won
for real, it was a plot twist for me as well
My people make the finest fighters and pies.
Great information, thank you
Hey everyone, just wanted to post this link to a GW article on how Charges+Formations are going to work in the Old World. I would have put it in the video but the news came out after this was made :( www.warhammer-community.com/2023/11/06/old-world-almanack-the-movement-phase-introduces-marching-columns/ Anyways hope you find the information helpful!
www.warhammer-community.com/2023/11/13/old-world-almanack-darken-the-skies-with-volleys-of-arrows-quarrels-shot-bolts-balls-and-screaming-skulls/ Another article posted on the shooting phase. Be sure to check it out!
Very informative!
thank you :)