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Thanks for your work, i will enjoy watching this 🙂 lived in Bromsgrove for many years now and nice to know the history.
@ckarodipolicethepolice23016 ай бұрын
Did the mud floods of the 1800s effect bromsgrove?
@anguseickhoff9387 ай бұрын
Worcestershire Model Laundry closed at the end of 1972 and thereafter, the mill pond which was situated at the end of the gardens @ 48-52 Birmingham Rd, was drained.
@kenstevens50658 ай бұрын
Halcyon days, I was a schoolboy, a happier more caring society until some people thought more about their personal wealth than the people of our Country. Debt, globalisation, immigration. No wonder we don't teach our real history in school anymore. As to the video...... brilliant, I wish it could be cleaned up a bit. Liked and subscribed.
@tezzrexx9 ай бұрын
Whatever happened to the big light?
@samormerod82319 ай бұрын
do you have any history on bromsgrove castings?
@traceybartlam7737 Жыл бұрын
I remember the farm at Townsend. We lived in Elm Grove and used to get eggs from the farm
@Neil070 Жыл бұрын
Most Bromsgrove folk of my generation called Charford Mill the Lint Mill. I had no idea that my grandfathers might have carried field dressings made there. Grandad bought a retirement house, Conway House, at the other end of Kiteless, or Pig's Alley (after the pig farm on the site of the rebuilt SBHS). It was the oldest house in Conway Road. The mill was derelict by the 60's, but swans used to glide across the Lint Pool, and the brook was somewhat deeper, we used to catch sticklebacks with nets.
@Neil070 Жыл бұрын
I remember Worcestershire Model Laundry, I was sure my grandmother used it, and I know a man who used to work there, he is still alive, though unwell and a smashing bloke. My grandfather was born in Blackmore Lane in 1898 and there is a photograph somewhere of his mother outside the family Chapel, the Hepzibah Primitive Methodist Church in Birmingham Road. Later my sister was married there. The pulpit bore a plaque, my grandfather's brother donated the pulpit in memory of his wife, who died quite young.
@davidoswald9253 Жыл бұрын
A great tribute to an awesome loco which has opened my eyes as to the real history behind the Lickey
@Isochest Жыл бұрын
At 22:27 didn't the Brush locos look like an export loco?
@owenevans832 ай бұрын
Nah bound for Port Talbot where they still work in 2024
@jameshennighan8193 Жыл бұрын
WELL DONE Well done Alastair, a great presentation. A credit to you and all the research you have done. The model at the NRM being on a gradient plinth is a nice touch. Personally, I think the electrification wires spoil the Lickey, although obviously this results in an increase in train speeds climbing the bank. Of course to give it its correct title, and to reflect the geological formation of the area and its relationship to the wider Birmingham area, it should be referred to as The Lickey Plain. James Hennighan Yorkshire, England
@grahamwalls9379 Жыл бұрын
An interesting film from the year I was born . Been up & down the lickey incline a few times . A very steep gradient .
@nielsleenknegt5839 Жыл бұрын
Hold on, is that (around 12:00) a 4-4-0 and 2-6-0/4-6-0 passengertrain double headed and still banked by a BR standerd 9F? That seems a bit out of carachter by BR?
@JohnDavies-cn3ro Жыл бұрын
I've always known her as 'Big Emma', a name which certainly goes back to the early 1930's, when it appeared in the 'Model Railway News'. Other people in the area apparently knew her as 'Big Liz', but by whatever name you know her, she was one massively impressive machine. Someone told me that when she was being broken up it was discovered that the mainframes had been worn away around her back wheels till they were only half the original thickness, due to the flanges bearing on them on curves.
@billcobbett9259 Жыл бұрын
That loco reminds me of the ill fated Great Eastern 'Decapod'.
@billcobbett9259 Жыл бұрын
Was Big Bertha not here in '57?
@nielsleenknegt5839 Жыл бұрын
Big Bertha was withdrawn from service by BR on May 7th, 1956. She was probably scrapped by this time. She got replaced by a 9F (92230) who got her signature headlight for night operations.
@maesteg Жыл бұрын
Ah! The 94's the easy steamers. Worked them many times in the Welsh valley's as bankers and on the passengers.
@peterhancock8011 Жыл бұрын
Is there any sound for this film?
@keithmason7481 Жыл бұрын
My uncle Ted Mason worked in Bromsgrove South Box at the time this was filmed.He,his wife and my two cousins lived in one of the 4 railway cottages at Stoke Works Junction,in the V formed by the junction.I stayed with them a couple of years previously when there was a station at the junction.The very long gardens are still there today 70years later.
@peterdryden6802 Жыл бұрын
sounds like james stewart the film star a rail fan
@JonWhitton Жыл бұрын
Great footage, thanks for sharing
@wobblywheeler6682 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I'm researching the Liver Buildings at the moment, so it was of interest. 👍
@denisemeredith2436 Жыл бұрын
This is a fascinating talk about a place where I spent a total of 16 years working. I have a book about Mason College and the University of Birmingham. Old Joe was built without scaffolding and I remember one of the Aston Webb cleaners told me that her dad helped build it. The red brick seems to glow in the autumn sun too.
@Isochest Жыл бұрын
The best bit is we sustained this without millions of immigrants. Sod Monopoly profits for the elite we need to look after our own people
@Isochest2 жыл бұрын
The railways in this era were much more viable than the accountants fiddled. With the gas price hikes Mr Monopoly is going to have to switch to rail
@petercooper23872 жыл бұрын
Very informative and absorbing history of this unique locomotive. Thank you.
@BevMattocks2 жыл бұрын
Filmed the year before I was born. Up to the end of steam, the Lickey, for my late dad, was the highlight of our annual trip back to Leeds from Weston-Super-Mare on the Devonian. I have vague memories as a small child of waiting in the train for the bankers to get in position.
@patrickspeaight91542 жыл бұрын
just seen the line side breaknen adjusting the breaks on the coal wagons, that seems skillful and dangerous.
@patrickspeaight91542 жыл бұрын
thank you, really enjoyed watching the skill of the whole team. I suppose having gained so much experience, the skill becomes second nature. thank you, Patrick m Northamptonshire
@scottu68042 жыл бұрын
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@JintySteam12 жыл бұрын
0:50 Even in the days of steam you got photobombed by a train hurtling down the bank, haha!
@thurstablelane75672 жыл бұрын
That is a fasinating history of Big Bertha, I've never looked too much into this engine, but I recently started looking into her more & more. This has been very insteresting to watch un-interupted.
@davidlange34182 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Most interesting and informative, especially to an ignoramus regarding steam locomotives (and railways in general) like me.
@garethhodson38962 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the launch
@pepidonk2 жыл бұрын
Just found this by chance and really enjoyed it , lived in Bromsgrove all my life and found it very informative thanks.
@robharding40282 жыл бұрын
I was born in this year, But Steam locos, and all that it entails, is for me, the greatest transport system this Country has ever produced, and It was born here all those years ago,
@stephenbartlett82152 жыл бұрын
Memory’s good days
@stephenbartlett82152 жыл бұрын
My grandad worked on the bankers George dyer as kids we played down on Newton bridge adjacent to sideings if we were lucky got a ride up the in cline You smelt of smoke good days
@kevkfz52262 жыл бұрын
What a fabulous presentation. Really enjoyed.
@andrewmartell61552 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating. I really enjoyed this wonderful presentation about "BB". Totally agree, it's a crying shame she wasn't preserved. Perhaps one day a group of enthusiasts could recreate her again like they are doing with the LNER P2 "Prince of Wales". Thanks for a great 1hr 24m of history. 😁
@ianjones41162 жыл бұрын
I'm a Diesel fan, havnt a clue about Steam. But I enjoyed every minute of this, probably because my dad was a Fireman back then, LMS man,, he would have been banked up there many a time. He would have loved to watch this. The sound would have been awesome. Thankful for what we have, a great insight, to how things were done back then, and now (rarely). Even a Diesel needs a hand, Thank you for sharing. 👍😎
@Isochest2 жыл бұрын
A Double header with a 9F up the derriere must have flown up the Lickey!
@eleveneleven5722 жыл бұрын
I'm going to enjoy watching this. I grew up at the mid point of Groveley Lane on Cofton Common and led a bipolar life running around the Lickeys and Cofton Park, fishing in the Worcester Canal in my youth.... and then clubbing in Birmingham in my late teens.....only to move back to live in Bromsgrove after a few years in Somerset. Now living in Brittany, France....in a small market town again. 😁 I still have a good selection of Rousler magazines.
@RichardASK2 жыл бұрын
A gang of us little boys 6-9 years old used to cycle 5 miles from Rubery to Blackwell and sit on the big embankment(on the UP side) just before the top of the bank in the late 50s. This film brought back many memories of watching the guards pinning down the brakes on the down goods. We'd be there all day with only a few sandwiches and our ex-Army water bottles. Seems like another age, which I suppose it was. We were much more 'savvy' than little kids, that age today. We had a freedom youngsters today, couldn't imagine. Lovely vid. thank you.
@Isochest2 жыл бұрын
I was born later and just saw the tail end of steam on the national network but understand the kind of freedom you speak of.
@m.moolhuysen5456 Жыл бұрын
Seeing him wrestle with the brakes using a wooden club while the train is moving, seems to me as a rather risky job where one could easily get injured.
@johnbishop5316 Жыл бұрын
I did my viewing from Pikes Pool around the same time. 1960 or 1
@petegoodman85052 жыл бұрын
Duchess TE was 40K, so not more.. Of course TE not total measure of power but that is what you quoted...
@FeckHallBahn2 жыл бұрын
Hello Alastair!! Fancy you popping up in one of my excursions down the KZread railway rabbit hole!!
@Nastyswimmer2 жыл бұрын
0:38 - not the longest gradient, nor the steepest gradient on BR though. Longest - possibly the 30 miles from Langwathby to Aisgill summit on the Settle-Carlisle. Steepest definitely the 1 in 14 Hopton incline on the Cropton and High Peak Railway
@RichardASK2 жыл бұрын
Crompton and High Peak isn't a main line though, is it?
@Nastyswimmer2 жыл бұрын
@@RichardASK no - but the text says "showing the longest (2 1/4 miles) and steepest (1 in 37) gradient on British Railways, not on the main line.
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Very enjoyable thanks for sharing
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Thanks for your work, i will enjoy watching this 🙂 lived in Bromsgrove for many years now and nice to know the history.
Did the mud floods of the 1800s effect bromsgrove?
Worcestershire Model Laundry closed at the end of 1972 and thereafter, the mill pond which was situated at the end of the gardens @ 48-52 Birmingham Rd, was drained.
Halcyon days, I was a schoolboy, a happier more caring society until some people thought more about their personal wealth than the people of our Country. Debt, globalisation, immigration. No wonder we don't teach our real history in school anymore. As to the video...... brilliant, I wish it could be cleaned up a bit. Liked and subscribed.
Whatever happened to the big light?
do you have any history on bromsgrove castings?
I remember the farm at Townsend. We lived in Elm Grove and used to get eggs from the farm
Most Bromsgrove folk of my generation called Charford Mill the Lint Mill. I had no idea that my grandfathers might have carried field dressings made there. Grandad bought a retirement house, Conway House, at the other end of Kiteless, or Pig's Alley (after the pig farm on the site of the rebuilt SBHS). It was the oldest house in Conway Road. The mill was derelict by the 60's, but swans used to glide across the Lint Pool, and the brook was somewhat deeper, we used to catch sticklebacks with nets.
I remember Worcestershire Model Laundry, I was sure my grandmother used it, and I know a man who used to work there, he is still alive, though unwell and a smashing bloke. My grandfather was born in Blackmore Lane in 1898 and there is a photograph somewhere of his mother outside the family Chapel, the Hepzibah Primitive Methodist Church in Birmingham Road. Later my sister was married there. The pulpit bore a plaque, my grandfather's brother donated the pulpit in memory of his wife, who died quite young.
A great tribute to an awesome loco which has opened my eyes as to the real history behind the Lickey
At 22:27 didn't the Brush locos look like an export loco?
Nah bound for Port Talbot where they still work in 2024
WELL DONE Well done Alastair, a great presentation. A credit to you and all the research you have done. The model at the NRM being on a gradient plinth is a nice touch. Personally, I think the electrification wires spoil the Lickey, although obviously this results in an increase in train speeds climbing the bank. Of course to give it its correct title, and to reflect the geological formation of the area and its relationship to the wider Birmingham area, it should be referred to as The Lickey Plain. James Hennighan Yorkshire, England
An interesting film from the year I was born . Been up & down the lickey incline a few times . A very steep gradient .
Hold on, is that (around 12:00) a 4-4-0 and 2-6-0/4-6-0 passengertrain double headed and still banked by a BR standerd 9F? That seems a bit out of carachter by BR?
I've always known her as 'Big Emma', a name which certainly goes back to the early 1930's, when it appeared in the 'Model Railway News'. Other people in the area apparently knew her as 'Big Liz', but by whatever name you know her, she was one massively impressive machine. Someone told me that when she was being broken up it was discovered that the mainframes had been worn away around her back wheels till they were only half the original thickness, due to the flanges bearing on them on curves.
That loco reminds me of the ill fated Great Eastern 'Decapod'.
Was Big Bertha not here in '57?
Big Bertha was withdrawn from service by BR on May 7th, 1956. She was probably scrapped by this time. She got replaced by a 9F (92230) who got her signature headlight for night operations.
Ah! The 94's the easy steamers. Worked them many times in the Welsh valley's as bankers and on the passengers.
Is there any sound for this film?
My uncle Ted Mason worked in Bromsgrove South Box at the time this was filmed.He,his wife and my two cousins lived in one of the 4 railway cottages at Stoke Works Junction,in the V formed by the junction.I stayed with them a couple of years previously when there was a station at the junction.The very long gardens are still there today 70years later.
sounds like james stewart the film star a rail fan
Great footage, thanks for sharing
Thanks for this. I'm researching the Liver Buildings at the moment, so it was of interest. 👍
This is a fascinating talk about a place where I spent a total of 16 years working. I have a book about Mason College and the University of Birmingham. Old Joe was built without scaffolding and I remember one of the Aston Webb cleaners told me that her dad helped build it. The red brick seems to glow in the autumn sun too.
The best bit is we sustained this without millions of immigrants. Sod Monopoly profits for the elite we need to look after our own people
The railways in this era were much more viable than the accountants fiddled. With the gas price hikes Mr Monopoly is going to have to switch to rail
Very informative and absorbing history of this unique locomotive. Thank you.
Filmed the year before I was born. Up to the end of steam, the Lickey, for my late dad, was the highlight of our annual trip back to Leeds from Weston-Super-Mare on the Devonian. I have vague memories as a small child of waiting in the train for the bankers to get in position.
just seen the line side breaknen adjusting the breaks on the coal wagons, that seems skillful and dangerous.
thank you, really enjoyed watching the skill of the whole team. I suppose having gained so much experience, the skill becomes second nature. thank you, Patrick m Northamptonshire
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0:50 Even in the days of steam you got photobombed by a train hurtling down the bank, haha!
That is a fasinating history of Big Bertha, I've never looked too much into this engine, but I recently started looking into her more & more. This has been very insteresting to watch un-interupted.
Thank you. Most interesting and informative, especially to an ignoramus regarding steam locomotives (and railways in general) like me.
Looking forward to the launch
Just found this by chance and really enjoyed it , lived in Bromsgrove all my life and found it very informative thanks.
I was born in this year, But Steam locos, and all that it entails, is for me, the greatest transport system this Country has ever produced, and It was born here all those years ago,
Memory’s good days
My grandad worked on the bankers George dyer as kids we played down on Newton bridge adjacent to sideings if we were lucky got a ride up the in cline You smelt of smoke good days
What a fabulous presentation. Really enjoyed.
Absolutely fascinating. I really enjoyed this wonderful presentation about "BB". Totally agree, it's a crying shame she wasn't preserved. Perhaps one day a group of enthusiasts could recreate her again like they are doing with the LNER P2 "Prince of Wales". Thanks for a great 1hr 24m of history. 😁
I'm a Diesel fan, havnt a clue about Steam. But I enjoyed every minute of this, probably because my dad was a Fireman back then, LMS man,, he would have been banked up there many a time. He would have loved to watch this. The sound would have been awesome. Thankful for what we have, a great insight, to how things were done back then, and now (rarely). Even a Diesel needs a hand, Thank you for sharing. 👍😎
A Double header with a 9F up the derriere must have flown up the Lickey!
I'm going to enjoy watching this. I grew up at the mid point of Groveley Lane on Cofton Common and led a bipolar life running around the Lickeys and Cofton Park, fishing in the Worcester Canal in my youth.... and then clubbing in Birmingham in my late teens.....only to move back to live in Bromsgrove after a few years in Somerset. Now living in Brittany, France....in a small market town again. 😁 I still have a good selection of Rousler magazines.
A gang of us little boys 6-9 years old used to cycle 5 miles from Rubery to Blackwell and sit on the big embankment(on the UP side) just before the top of the bank in the late 50s. This film brought back many memories of watching the guards pinning down the brakes on the down goods. We'd be there all day with only a few sandwiches and our ex-Army water bottles. Seems like another age, which I suppose it was. We were much more 'savvy' than little kids, that age today. We had a freedom youngsters today, couldn't imagine. Lovely vid. thank you.
I was born later and just saw the tail end of steam on the national network but understand the kind of freedom you speak of.
Seeing him wrestle with the brakes using a wooden club while the train is moving, seems to me as a rather risky job where one could easily get injured.
I did my viewing from Pikes Pool around the same time. 1960 or 1
Duchess TE was 40K, so not more.. Of course TE not total measure of power but that is what you quoted...
Hello Alastair!! Fancy you popping up in one of my excursions down the KZread railway rabbit hole!!
0:38 - not the longest gradient, nor the steepest gradient on BR though. Longest - possibly the 30 miles from Langwathby to Aisgill summit on the Settle-Carlisle. Steepest definitely the 1 in 14 Hopton incline on the Cropton and High Peak Railway
Crompton and High Peak isn't a main line though, is it?
@@RichardASK no - but the text says "showing the longest (2 1/4 miles) and steepest (1 in 37) gradient on British Railways, not on the main line.