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I wouldn't blame Timothy Leary, I'd point the fingers at her parents, but as someone else pointed out, Dianne was too independent for that. I wouldn't cast any apersions at Wavy Gravy and the Hog Farm. They were doing the right thing, trying to protect themselves from someone who would draw the cops down on them. The cops were looking for any excuse to do so back then. Wavy Gravy and the Hog Farm have done a *ton* of good works over the decades. Having a "sexually active fourteen year old" on their property was not going to turn out well for Wavy and Co.
He wanted to be a rock star ! He didn’t take direction and he didn’t know how to follow the directions in recording a song . Diane lake said he didn’t want to be a rock star she is wrong . That is all he wanted to be was a rock star. He was Evil psychopath . That is why he killed Sharon Tate because Terry Melcher didn’t give him a contact a record deal . Melcher did not see anything in him . He turned him down flat down. Charlie your no rockstar just a failure.So there is your truth !!
If I was in the audience I would block the doors and not let them leave.
I love to listen to him play and sing but i could listen to him tell stories all day. Chris help start what we call country rock. Chris is a national icon..
Unfortunate she truly was too much on the out skirts of the main group. I feel for her but most off her memories are from what she heard, said year after year, like the mandela affect. Sorry but there is now too much proving alot of this narrative is not true. I do not belive they were some innocent angels who were persecuted because they were "hippies " . Definitely not. However...the truth is quite different
Her parents were incompetent, terrible people. The had 3 kids, but didn’t want parenting responsibilities. She didn’t go back to them when she got out, and that was fine with her.
Endlessly exciting! Thank you!
I’ve know Olguin for about 15 years now. Seeing him grow as an artist over the years has been inspiring. I’m definitely looking forward to his next project. Saludos, Gene! Keep up the good work!
I loved this history
THE ' 68 Special will forever be SPECIAL!!
Herb Pederson is a treasure. I have admired him for decades 🙂
Very interesting and informative. Thanks for posting this for us 🙂
What kind of a parent would let their 14 yr old daughter to be sexually active and let them go live with a bunch of hippies . She was also doing drugs and I am sure that Charlie wanted to give her more than Root beer . Having sex with Charlie how sickening. She was brainwashed and she loved him . Manson said she was one of his favorite s to have sex with . He Manson is Pure Evil and this lady who was a child who grew up way to soon should have had a normal childhood. She knew no better and her parents were really sick and should have been locked up for letting her live like that and it’s sad . So many young girls are destroyed because of the parents who’s job it is to protect these kids and she definitely was one of these kids . Thank God she learned and became a responsible mother . Manson was a man of a thousand faces who could be anyone at anytime . She is a amazing lady who knows the truth and hopefully we can learn something from this . Ivor Davis is Amazing he is the best, his interviews are incredible.
Hey bud did you how much she's raking in on her 15 minutes of fame she's stretching out for an eternity, sick
I found this while looking for Adam Hart's dinner roll recipe. I am glad to see this amazing chef is still around. Please if you can cover how he makes his mouth watering rolls
We don't need fantasy reality is what is important.
Would you (the museum) be interested in a trove of ESG material? He was my grandfather's best friend and fishing partner. I inherited everything from my mother when she passed: autographed first edition books, personal photos and papers, as well as his memorial service materials. I would love to be able to have the material properly taken care of rather than it just sitting in closets.
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Excellent presentation. Adventuresome recipe.
I for one am truly blown away that Dianne never held her parents responsible for allowing a teenager girl of only14 to hang out with "those people". I lived on Venice Beach and was going to UCLA at that time. In fact my first college roommate's parents lived on Cielo Drive --- 6 houses away from the Tate murders. WARNING - LONG STORY AHEAD!!!!! --Anyway my saga is I had a huge "first love" crush on a boy at UCLA whose house in Venice was burned down by gang members because he refused to give one of them his cowboy boots! He was from a low income family of 7 sons so he only had one pair of shoes! Long story short, I moved out of the college dorms to live with him in a flat right near the beach where it was supposed to be much safer [or so we were told which was BS] In any case I was repeatedly warned by all the surfers & people I met on the Venice Boardwalk to NEVER talk to, go to parties with or have anything whatsoever to do with "Charlie" or ANY of his 'girls" because Manson was an ex-con who had spent most of his life in jail, and now that he was out hd would used any hustle that worked to make young girls become his sex slaves so he could pimp them out &/or get drugs through them. Manson had a true sixth sense about how to pick out the most vulnerable girls with the lowest self-esteem using his hippie bullshit philosophy to lure young women to his lair to do crimes for him. Dennis Edwards [RIP] should have been ashamed of himself, too, because he loved all the orgies and "free love" and drugs the girls provided all day & night. I don't think ANYONE took Manson's "music" act seriously --- least of all Terry Melcher who politely "passed" on Manson when he listened to that infamous tape that's still floating around out there, There's also an urban legend that Dennis the rich Beach Boy took all the "girls" to his doctor for penicillin shots since they all had many STDS they kept passing back & forth the & around to everyone who wanted some free s&x. Dennis said "I had the biggest gonorrhea bill in the world" 🤮Dianne Lake is incredibly fortunate she was able to get away from that sociopathic cult & into the hands of that police officer who saved her life. Also she's fortunate she got mental health treatment in a legitimate hospital where she was "deprogammed' before Manson's psychopathic brainwashing got her into dire situations that she may never have been able to resolve . PS I Also went with a gf to Spahn Movie Ranch to rent horses & ride up there. It was really beautiful because you felt like you were really in a cowboy movie. Then 2 of the ranch hands invited us into the barn to smoke some weed. We two lithe teenage girls walked through the barn door, looked at each other and ran to the car screaming "Let 's get the f&ck outta here!" because you could just feel the horrible vibes and bad energy up there So thick you could cut it with a knife [pun intended]. Close call for me & my friend,
Bullshit on the hired screamers.....
July 2024: Ramblings....you are sadly 100 percent wrong. I got it straight from fans who were approached to scream for the Ed Sullivan Show) ..What you are confused about is that once the Beatles hit the road in America in the Summer of l964--the screamers were screaming on their own--without prompting... That's the fact--so put that in your pipe and and smoke it!!!!
Love this so much.
What a life
I worked for Mike Bradbury for nearly 20 years and we still remain friends. He is one of the finest men I have ever met. I would trust him with my life! Thanks for doing this interview. It was was very enlightening!
Always the consummate pro musician. He just looks so uncomfortable standing next to Gram in those photos. I guess he really couldn't do anything with Gram, you really can't with those self destructive individuals who are bound and determined to wreck their own lives. But Chris always looks cool, composed and dead sober in the photos I've seen.
Chris actually looked very uncomfortable in videos of the Byrds. He refused to sing at first; just played his guitar. He said he was quiet and shy. I'm sure the loss of his father to suicide greatly affected him. I see him starting to loosen up when he was performing with Gram, although he wanted Gram to sing the lead vocals. They got along very well at first, living and writing together, until Gram's addictions took over, probably caused by his own sad family history. We're fortunate these two talents got together, even though briefly.
I can still remember The Gilded Palace of Sin with the Nudie suit, outhouse cover. A different turn from Poco with the restless Gram Parsons teamed with the rock steady Chris Hillman. Although they were known on the road as the Masters of Excess.....
I love this series! It's such a great idea! Please talk about the desserts you make too. I saw that you made fattigman in the second show. My grandma always made it for Christmas.
My dad was a military police in air force. Would anyone know where my dad would of been stationed ? I can't remember
I wish you had not fast forwarded through so much of the cooking demonstration.
So his stories show how we have to realize that a lot of what the media puts out is either wrong, exaggerated or that musicians have short memories and forgiving hearts. Band breakups (to the public) seem horrendous and sad. But really it's more like family squabbles that pass in a couple of weeks or years and then the next reunion happens and everyone is eating burgers and hand cranked ice cream together, telling stories about granny and pulling the kids out of the pond. Seems like only a few result in total shunning or real hate.
I now love Lima Beans!
Very entertaining!
I love this!! It's fascinating listening to Chris taking about his life and career. He's a natural born raconteur as well as a first class musician and singer. Wonderful film! Thank you!!! 👍👍❤️
nothing but feasts!
Finally someone with the right melody.
Sadly you are correct. So many want to embellish it.
cant wait for that lima loaf!
Sending you Hugs Dianne ...😘🌻
It is a bit sad that Abram's first wife, Tennessee, is not part of the story. They married in 1882 and she died in 1887, and was with child. I suppose it would not flow well, but she existed.
Chaos by Tom O'Neill.
Diane "Snitch" Lake.
Danny Kay Great Guy 😳
Wish I could have been there to ask why he stole full credit for content from writing partner and coauthor who turned first manuscript into something readable. First edition can be found on well known auction site.
Ivor Biggun and Bruce David
Thank you for opening up and sharing Ms Lake. You are worth any effort and love that canoes or came your way
The same naivety and gullible nature that led her to believe in Manson is what has her believing in Jesus. Both fake.
What is up? Is she in touch with her feelings? Laughs at the most inappropriate times. It’s a concern as she had an unimaginable childhood, abandoned by her parents, exposed to sex, drugs, murder. There is something wrong with this picture. What do you think?
The most jarring example was when the host told the story about the kids at the cinema asking what Sharon Tate went on to do. I found her laughter there really inappropriate. I think there’s damage there that is permanent
@@mickydem5920some people laugh at inappropriate times , it’s a nervous reaction
Dennis Wilson enjoyed sex with the girls He paid for their penicillin shots. The Beach Boys wetter thrilled to get rid of him.
19:30 - Tarantino wanted to give the victims' families the ending they wanted. It was his way of bringing Sharon, Abagail, Voytek, Jay and Steven back to their loved ones. I was very moved by the ending, it was one of the most touching scenes I've ever seen. So beautiful.
She would have been safer staying with her crazy hippy parents but she had a mind of her own they lost control of her it broke her mothers heart when she left she soon called her parents the many times she got into trouble dammed if my parents would have come and bailed me out of jail . No one ever talks about how neglected the kids of the Manson family were hungry undernourished neglected dirty and badly sunburned even a month old baby when child services finally took them . Great book though one of the best I’ve read . Charles Manson was nothing but a classic malignant narcissist nothing clever about the little loser he’s where he belongs now .
I will definitely read it.
She wasn't wanted at the hog farm...the farm didn't want to get busted for underage sex
Good on to you make elvis 68 special well done 👏
I understand forgiveness. I understand moving on without bitterness. But if this is really going to be a warning, a message for others, then you’ve got to be real. Her parents were derelict. She was used and abused by many men when she was under age and also by Charles Manson. Her sexual encounter with Manson was statutory rape but she describes it as making her purr and feeling like a woman. There is something very wrong and disgusting about her descriptions of sex and drug use as a child without clarity. I’m glad she got out and went to hospital and detoxified from drugs. And perhaps the church helps her - but it seems like she hasn’t really dealt with the trauma of being abandoned as a child. Instead of a “cautionary tale” this feels like a longing for sexual freedom and drug adventures. That’s not a good way to live. Poor Snake, she was so young and her brain was not yet fully formed and so I wonder if the drugs affected brain development in a more permanent way. I mean, she’s not psychotic any more, but there’s something underneath that is not quite right.
I’m kind of with you on this. There is are many factors attached to this though. We mustn’t underestimate the sensationalism associated with all things Manson related and how that may color people’s perception of things, especially those involved like her. Fame and notoriety is wicked no matter what the circumstances. In fact that is essentially what Manson desired and designed. In any event, back to your point, I find Diana’s description of her experiences somewhat removed and unemotional. There is never a sign of dismay resonating from her about anything that she went through concerning her parents behavior or during her time with Manson.
For what it's worth, you must remember the spirit of the times. Her parents were addicts, often on LSD, turned on and dropped out, as Dr. Timothy Leary had exhorted people to do. There was an emphasis on brotherhood and the communal family back then, perhaps a communist influence, and people had this naive trust in others, especially other hippies, to extend their peace and love to other people's children. It was the kind of spirit that made many young stars in Hollywood not as stringent about their safety as they should have been. Frank Zappa would not infrequently wake up with fans in his kitchen.
@@lisellesloan3191 Of course. Her parents were derelict and that’s not Dianne’s fault. Dianne’s lucky she got out of that situation alive. I do wish she would give her foster parents more credit for their part in her recovery. When I hear her talk about her experience is that she doesn’t seem to have real insight about it. 13-15 year olds should not have sex with men, or rather, men should not have sex with under age teens, parents shouldn’t give their children drugs, she didn’t hear God telling her to leave home - it was the acid trip, she said Manson had sex with her and made her “purr” - she described it as being very positive at first. She doesn’t see how the drugs affected her developing brain, how young teens need guidance and without it they make bad decisions, and how saying she’s “jail bait” is saying that they could go to jail for having sex with a minor. Her parents deserted her.
@@lisellesloan3191 And, I’m sorry but even in the 1960’s, most parents did not drop out of society, join communes, and do drugs with their teenage kids. There was a lot of manipulation from the so-called intellectuals. Dianne’s parents put their own drive for adventure ahead of their parenting responsibilities and she suffered for that. And I don’t think her mental and emotional development was quite complete because of it.
I thought she had went through some therapy w a psychiatrist