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  • @Oreo-kv4gc
    @Oreo-kv4gc19 сағат бұрын

    Cassidy was springlock to Cassidy is Vengeful and cassidy is golden Princess golden Freddy also there old man red king old man Consequences giving golden Freddy cassidy princess the golden sword to battle fight against glichtrap burntrap william in princess quest.

  • @foxman1998
    @foxman199820 сағат бұрын

    Puberty hit Withered like Foxy running headfirst into the doors in FNAF 1.

  • @WitheredCircle
    @WitheredCircle12 сағат бұрын

    fr lmao took it long enough

  • @PanAceKitty10
    @PanAceKitty10Күн бұрын

    i have an idea about the new book what if its the week before the bite of 83 fnaf 4 but from Michaël aka foxy bros pov

  • @WitheredCircle
    @WitheredCircleКүн бұрын

    It can't be because the description says it's a direct prequel to FNAF 1 and you play as a nightguard

  • @PanAceKitty10
    @PanAceKitty10Күн бұрын

    @@WitheredCircle oop sorry I should have looked that up before making a joke

  • @WitheredCircle
    @WitheredCircle12 сағат бұрын

    @@PanAceKitty10 ik it's still a funny idea and I hope we get something like that

  • @gab_maluco
    @gab_maluco2 күн бұрын

    William killed more kids other than the 5 MCI and Charlie (and the DCI): In UCN toy chica the highschool years toy chica/Afton kills 7 kids(you missed the Foxy Hook).The seventh kid was only killed because he wanted to and wasn't a experiment like the MCI and that same kid is represented as a Mediocre Melody(pigpatch) ,the animatronics linked to TOYSNHK. The movie actually proves this,the blonde kid is almost never grouped with the MCI,the only time he is his face is on top of another kid's face(not actually on the drawing) In the new kid we find out Andrew was on a golden Freddy suit so the golden Freddy imagery in UCN still makes sense Also the stingers literaly show Andrew's agony infected multiple things so its not just fetch The cupcake is a paralel to the springlocking of William and TOYSNHK isn't even the only one in UCN so Cassidy can still be UCN but she's not hurting William just like the cupcake isn't hurting toy chica

  • @WitheredCircle
    @WitheredCircle2 күн бұрын

    Yeah several people pointed this out and you're right

  • @gab_maluco
    @gab_maluco2 күн бұрын

    @@WitheredCircle I did not see that others already said this,too late now either way :|

  • @spongebobguy2cook
    @spongebobguy2cook2 күн бұрын

    I once saw someone talk about Andrew being over looked and Cassidy being given his role when he still has the stringers when taking this from Cassidy leaves nothing about them other then being the 5th MCI Victim

  • @Wizardjones69
    @Wizardjones692 күн бұрын

    vengeful spirit is andrew, while the vengeful spirit isn't on golden freddy

  • @ben_s_stop_motion
    @ben_s_stop_motion3 күн бұрын

    about toy chica the high school years she actually has 7 victims, the 6 she killed during the cutscenes and one more victim who she killed before the rest (as we can see foxy's hook in her backpack) that's likely supposed to be charlie so there is seemingly still one victim unaccounted for

  • @Eddbruh83
    @Eddbruh833 күн бұрын

    Goated video my guy. I'm not really CassidyBoy, but I absolutely respect anyone who believes it. FNAF fans need to understand that gender might not be the same between two continuities.

  • @blu3_is_0
    @blu3_is_03 күн бұрын

    Man this first time I'm confused about this franchise not sure who the vengeful spirit is anymore 💀 to me i still think could be Cassidy but idk since i kinda like Cassidy more, but tbh i think could be both maybe?

  • @WitheredCircle
    @WitheredCircle3 күн бұрын

    it can totally be both or either one of them

  • @sworishina
    @sworishina3 күн бұрын

    Every time someone talks to me like Stitchline Games is proven fact, I lose a few years off my life Edit: BY THE WAY, I want to note that Cassidy is a unisex name! (Games) Cassidy is male, it's that simple Edit edit: The whole "only five kids went missing" point is understandable, but that doesn't mean Charlotte, who died in the alley, wasn't killed as part of the same string of murders as the MCI, because she likely just wasn't /missing/. She was probably found quite quickly.

  • @Sonicmid
    @SonicmidКүн бұрын

    Cassidy is a girl it’s confirmed by the graphic novel of into the pit 4 boys 2 girls

  • @humptydumptysat
    @humptydumptysat4 күн бұрын

    I appreciate the attempt to make good evidence that Andrew isn’t TOYSHK but unfortunately evidence goes both ways.

  • @WitheredCircle
    @WitheredCircle4 күн бұрын

    that it does, and this is just a theory. Both AndrewTOYSNHK and CassidyTOYSNHK are valid theories and I-m not trying to say otherwise.

  • @FTZPLTC
    @FTZPLTC4 күн бұрын

    Small question/point: I don't think "I should be dead but I'm not" implies that Michael necessarily wants to die - just that, given all the things that have happened to him physically, he shouldn't have survived.

  • @WitheredCircle
    @WitheredCircle4 күн бұрын

    I feel like he'd be pretty guilty from the stuff he did anyway, plus he's pretty cynical and doesn't seem to care about whether he survives or not in the Survival Logbook

  • @robertlperez8731
    @robertlperez87314 күн бұрын

    grear breakdown of why andrew as TOYSNHK doesnt have any backing in the games, and only makes things confusing lol

  • @tomkubus
    @tomkubus4 күн бұрын

    I still feel mostly unconvinced of this, the video doesnt manage to cover most of the evdience for andrew being Toysnhk, along with having Bad evdience against it (imo) along with not much evidence of it being cassidy (which ill try to debubk in a reply to this comment) The main reason is because of the books, the books are said to happen within the games canon (something Scott said) and while that is still kinda vague it does make it clear (for me) that they happen in the games timeline, along with the fact that the storyteller is basically confirmed to be 1:1 with the games already, and the books tell us that Andrew is the vengeful spirit Although there are a few more reasons, first of all there's ucn quotes, Orville elephant tells William that Both William and VS have been burnt multiple times together, Cassidy was burnt once, meaning it can't be her, and while it still could be Mike or Charlotte from this, those 2 don't work for other reasons, Mike isn't a kid and he wasn't killed by William, and ucn has Charlotte saying she's not vengeful, so it can't be her either, meaning it's someone we don't know from the games (outside of ucn) This is later backed up in Ucn again, since we get introduced to a 6th kid who died on the same day as the other 5, and possibly also at Freddy's, but was never reported missing, It's odd to have a new victim added in the same game we have another new victim who's more vengeful, then future games like Security breach and Fnaf Vr once again show us there is a 6th hidden victim, and in the books we get told Andrew, the vengeful spirit, is the 6th mck kid, who dies with Gabriel and Susie at Freddy's Along with that, Withered chica and Mangle say that the Vengeful spirit face is Male, Scott also said He used his sons photo for it since it's fitting, along with that Scott talks about Vs with He/Him pronouns, meaning it can't be Cassidy or Charlotte, and while there is limited evidence pointing to it being Fritz or Jeremy, I feel like the evidence to it being Andrew far outweighs that evidence, and it also kinda contradicts frights which says that the 6th victim is Vs, parallel or not that shows us it's not Jeremy or Fritz

  • @tomkubus
    @tomkubus4 күн бұрын

    You say that it's much more logical for Cassidy to be Toysnhk because in 50/20, we see golden Freddy, the 5th victim, twitching away in the background and leaving ucn, this isn't the best of evidence imo as it directly shows us that Golden Freddy is leaving and moving on, As it shows the reverse of What we saw in the fnaf 3 trailer (William coming back to life in springtrap) and after that cutscene ucn still continues, meaning even without golden Freddy ucn will still go on, meaning golden Freddy can't be the one in control, this point also doesn't work since Cassidy simply can't be Golden Freddy, or at least she can't be the 5th MCI victim, you see in fnaf 3 we get to see the happiest day with the 5 main mci kids, how do we know its them? Because that's their name(s) in the files of fnaf 3, Golden Freddy kid is said to be the 5th MCI kid, Meanwhile in the logbook we see Cassidy talking to the altered text, Telling them many things, one of those being "the party was for you" on a page featuring happiest day and the puppet giving cake to kids, this is a semi obvious sign that Altered text is The happiest day kid, Aka The 5th MCI kid, Aka golden Freddy, so if what you said later is true (no proof of William killing other kids) then Cassidy simply isn't a kid William killed, so by your logic, Cassidy can't Be Toysnhk since Cassidy couldn't have been killed by William (Unless there are other victims, which also then allows Andrew to come into play, making that entire point worthless) another reason why this point is bad is that Ucn, Security breach, The post it note room in security breach, Into the Pit, ITP graphic novel and Into the pit game all show us there were 6 Mci kids that died in 1985, With security breach and Ucn showing us that isn't Charlotte, meaning is has to be some other kid, it would make more sense to be Andrew as he's already shown to have died with Gabriel and Susie in Itp, something that as Scott said happens within the games canon, and later shown to be vengeful, the Unreliable Novel trilogy which Scott told us not to use shows Cassidy has died with the Mci as well, but she's shown to be kind to everyone, even William, and mostly serves as a replacement to Jeremy, Also saying Cassidy and Andrew share the same role in the games is circular logic, it's a baseless claim and all of your evidence requires the theory to already be confirmed, which we all know it isn't The next points are more speculative, Nightmares voice lines could be refering to the fact that once William nearly gets out, Andrew kills him, William never got out alive, he loses no matter what, he wither dies, his agony living on for a short while, his soul damned to hell, or gets tortured for decades without end, also Henry didn't know about Andrew, and any logical person would think that someone would want their killer to die, not to keep them alive, so it makes sense why Henry would assume that Also saying there isn't evidence that the books and games are in the same timeline is absolutely false, the storyteller is a book confirmed to happen within the games, along with that the books were made to solve mysteries from different corners of the games canon, if they're meant to solve the games why would they be cryptic unreliable parallels, also Cassidy a role is as a puppet clone, aka the opposite of VS, and William stuffing on gender is a baseless claim especially since you just mentioned how William stuffed a girl into bonnie in the silver eyes trilogy, also no other characters have had gender switches from silver eyes to the games, sure the silver eyes had some gender switches, but all of those switches continued to remain canon in the games, along with that golden Freddy is possessed by a girl as we are shown in fnaf 1 (my previous point wasn't against Cassidy being golden Freddy, but moreso Cassidy being the 5th MCI kid, she's still deffo golden Freddy imo, but that was just a counterpoint against the "no other incidents" theory), Charlotte's gender changed from Male to Female and that stuck in the games, so why wouldn't the same apply to Cassidy? Also even if Andrew is a parallel, which is unlikely as stichline being parallels is a mostly baseless claim with no backing, and Andrews has no connections to Cassidy at all, we still get to see that VS specifically doesn't want to be freed until Afton is gone, The fnaf 3 mini games you showed show that the 5th MCI kid (which most likely isn't even Cassidy) wants to move on, and is actively trying to be freed, the opposite of Andrew, The logbook also already shows us Cassidy is at rest, and if we use the grave order then she's the first one to rest, Meanwhile Andrew is one of the last and Hw2 shows golden Freddy is one of the last to rest Fully agree that Mike toysnhk and Ucn Duo are baseless claims that lack evidence tho, although you seem to have misinterpreted what Mike says, It's kinda clear mike wants to keep William alive at all cost and doesn't want to die, Mike was to question William on how he's alive and how everything happened, he can't do that if William is dead, Along with that there's a ton of evidence (Gregory's friends name most likely being mike, Mike's room, M.Afton, etc) Mike's still alive, which goes against the idea he wants to die and move on (although he physically can't be VS if this is true)

  • @WitheredCircle
    @WitheredCircle4 күн бұрын

    thanks for the criticism, I just have a few questions that I'm unsure about/corrections or my own opinions: 1: When is it stated in the books that Andrew dies with Susie and Gabriel? 2: I think Orville's line implies that they won't release Afton no matter how hard anyone tries to free them: fire does purge Remnant after all and was part of Henry's plan, but the Spirit doesn't want that to happen. 3: I said Cassidy was probably male and provided evidence in the video 4: I also talked about the 6th kid instances Not trying to undermine your arguement which is 100% valid but just some thoughts I have

  • @tomkubus
    @tomkubus4 күн бұрын

    @@WitheredCircle 1. In into the pit we see that a man is calling for someone named "Susie" which is semi-clear imagery that The Mci we see in Itp has Susie in it, we also know that the memory comes from Eleanor, who gathers most of her agony from Andrew, and if we follow what the novel trilogy says, Memories are the things that Create Agony/Souls, therefore Since she has the memories from the Mci and is mostly made up of Andrews agony, there's a clear connection to at least imply that Andrew died with them, Also my memory might be serving me wrong but 90% sure Gabriel is name dropped in your the band as an MCI kid 2. The thing with Orville's line us he says "no mater how many times they burn us" meaning that they've been burnt together by multiple people more than once, Henry tells us Mike wasn't involved in the fnaf 6 fire apart from the fact he got burnt in it, meaning both had to be burnt together at a separate time, which is what I was talking about with that quote, But since Cassidy is with molten Freddy (probably at least) she was only burnt in fnaf 6 (also side note but Fnaf 6 tells us Extreme heat has a chance to neutralise remnant, not that fire can purge remnant, the novels and Ar also tell us that a fire simply isn't hot enough to do this) 3. A majority of your evidence was that Cassidy could be male, also I countered that point in the replies when I countered most points in the video, and while they can be male it's kinda unlikely especially seeing the logbook, novel trilogy and fnaf 1 when she does the female giggling thing 4. I talked about that more in depth in the reply as well Ye that's fair, asking questions/trying to counter points to back up your claims is mostly normal, especially when debating something, which as you said at the start of the video, the identity of toysnhk is

  • @UniverseChronology
    @UniverseChronology4 күн бұрын

    Okay, so I 100% think that Andrew is the TOYSNHK, so I'm just gonna try and debunk some of your points here. 1: There is at least one incident besides Charlie, MCI, and SAVETHEM where William killed someone, Midnight Motorist. While AftonMM is a popular theory there are two main problems with it, "William" is orange for some reason despite everyone knowing William as The Purple Guy and the house that supposedly looks like the FNAF 4 house, looks nothing like either of the FNAF 4 houses at all, the only similarity is that it was a triangle roof. The evidence for it is also kind of flawed, Later That Night doesn't have to mean after Charlie's death, it could just as easily be referring to the base Midnight Motorist game, Orange Guy is speeding and then later that night he arrives home. Alternatively, it could be later the night of the MCI. It also makes sense that the runaway would be one of William's victims, considering the minigames needed in order to get the Lorekeeper ending are all about William's victims, not to mention of the Toy Chica cutscenes seem to represent Midnight Motorist and those cutscenes are about William's murders. 2: The proof that Andrew is in the games is that the books are canon, at least the Stitchline stories. Scott said way back before the first book even released that Fazbear Frights would contain multiple stories featuring unique characters and plotlines, some of those DIRECTLY connected to the games. This likely means that these new characters and plotlines are directly connected to existing characters and plotlines. The word directly seems to imply more than just similar to or parallel to. The Stitchwraith Stingers makes reference to the events of FFPS, talking about the fire that burned down Freddy Fazbear's Pizza Place, even going so far as to mention it was related to one of the owners. It would be weird for the Stingers to position themselves as a sequel to one of the games but then just be non-canon. If the events of the games happen in the books, why can't the books happen in the games? It's not like there's anything directly going against the idea besides other theories that aren't proven like CassidyTOYSNHK. 3: Into the Pit having 6 kids is not as much of a problem as some people tend to think. It seems some people still don't understand what's actually happening in that story, people seem to think it's literal time travel which it isn't. The pit contains the memories/remnant of the victims at Freddy's and Eleanor's victims, we see this in the Stingers where Larson is able to visit these memories when he's in the pit, but he's not actually in the past, he's just in those memories. This is what happens to Oswald, he's in the memories of the deaths at Freddy's, NOT the actual events of the MCI. And we know that these memories aren't 100% accurate because of how Spring Bonnie is depicted in Into the Pit. It's canon in the books that William killed the kids, but here, Spring Bonnie is shown as a creature of some kind as if it's some kind of nightmarish representation of the murderer, but not the actual murderer himself. So, those 6 kids might not JUST be representing the MCI kids but also someone else who died at Freddy's. This could be The Puppet (although I think she died at Fredbear's) but I think it's more representative of Andrew who may not have actually disappeared at Freddy's but still died there. I think Andrew is the runaway in Midnight Motorist, ended up at Freddy's, and then was killed by William. However, because he didn't vanish AT Freddy's but instead vanished after running away he wasn't included among the list of those who vanished AT FREDDY'S. We also know there's at least one extra kid because of the Toy Chica cutscenes, you mention the 6 victims of that cutscene, but not the 7th, the Foxy hook that's already in the bag, implying 7 victims total. Charlie was the first victim, so she's likely the Foxy Hook, leaving 6 other victims. There are OTHER options for who that 6th victim could be besides Andrew like CC and Elizabeth, but neither of those where directly picked to be killed by William, CC was killed by Mike and William specifically told Elizabeth not to go near Baby. This makes the only option another victim that William purposely picked out and killed. 4: Andrew not being necessary isn't really evidence that he doesn't exist. There's a lot of stuff in FNAF that is unnecessary like a second set of 5 kids being killed in the FNAF 2 location, why is that necessary? 5: The idea of Andrew being a parallel to Cassidy is weird to me because why not just use Cassidy to parallel Cassidy? It's not like the books is refusing to use characters that exist in the games, they use William as a major character in TMIR1280 and the Stitchwraith Stingers, they use Mike in the scrapped story You're The Band, why not also use Cassidy? 6: The Nightmarione Line isn't the only reason we know William is still alive during UCN and not in hell, the line that seems to prove it the most is Orville Elephant when the Vengeful Spirit is directly speaking through him. He says that "he" (Henry) tried to release William but that he isn't going to let that happen, he's going to hold him no matter how many times they burn them. This implies that Henry's attempt to cast William into hell didn't work, William wasn't released because TOYSNHK kept him alive and will keep him alive no matter how many times people try to burn them. If William was dead and in Hell then the line really makes no sense. 7: Cassidy is a girl. There's no reason to change her gender from the books and the games, and in the Logbook we see on a page that references Happiest Day that The Puppet is holding a cake and giving it to a girl with black hair. This reference to Happiest Day where The Puppet gave a cake to the Golden Freddy child who is shown in the logbook as a girl with black hair, similar to how Cassidy is described in the novel. 8: Golden Freddy may not actually be the one in control of UCN. She's certainly there, yes, but that doesn't mean she's in control. The Golden Freddy cutscene depicts Golden Freddy fading into the darkness, seemingly leaving Ultimate Custom Night like Old Man Consequences wanted her to, yet the game can still continue beyond that, which could imply that Cassidy was either never in control or was partially in control but has given that up. There are two different theories for this: UCNDuo (Andrew is TOYSNHK and Cassidy is the Vengeful Spirit) or UCNDissent (Andrew is TOYSNHK/Vengeful Spirit and Cassidy is trying to stop Andrew and help him go free). Both of these are very possible, though I tend to lean towards UCNDuo. It's also not two kids in a trench coat acting as 1, it's 2 kids acting as different kids but both with similar goals, torturing William. 9: The cupcake chasing Toy Chica could very easily just be Susie, the soul that is locked behind this minigame. As for my major evidence that Andrew is TOYSNHK: 1: I think StitchlineGames is canon meaning TMIR1280 is canon meaning Andrew is TOYSNHK who had attached himself to William and is causing unending nightmares, preventing anyone from letting him die. 2: TOYSNHK is always described with male pronouns and the face Scott chose to use for TOYSNHK is a picture of his son who is male. Cassidy is female as shown in the trilogy novels and the logbook, if Scott wanted TOYSNHK to be a girl he would've used a picture of a girl, not his son. 3: Toy Chica The Highschool Years introduces a 7th victim that seems to not be Charlie or one of the MCI kids. CC and Elizabeth doesn't make sense to be this 7th kid and it doesn't make sense that it would just be one of the 5 DCI kids, meaning there's another victim in FNAF that we either haven't seen or we have seen but contributed it to something else. I believe Midnight Motorist shows us that 7th victim but many just assumed the runaway was CC or Mike. As for my major evidence that Cassidy could be the Vengeful Spirit: 1: Golden Freddy is Cassidy and Golden Freddy 100% is 100% important to UCN, shown in the final cutscene you can get in UCN where she twitched into the darkness 2: OMC tells a bear character to "leave the demon to his demons" and "rest your own souls". This bear only makes sense to be Cassidy meaning that before this minigame Cassidy wasn't leaving William alone implying she had an active role in UCN 3: Assuming Cassidy is the Princess (which I still debate if that's true or not), Cassidy is shown talking to the Red King who is very likely supposed to be OMC (I think I saw somewhere that the files of Help Wanted 2 called that character OMC but I don't remember). This connects Cassidy to OMC and again confirms that Cassidy was the bear in UCN 4: Golden Freddy in the film is shown to be vengeful As for my major evidence for UCNDuo: 1: I think StitchlineGames is canon but I also know Golden Freddy is in UCN and Andrew is not Golden Freddy (The New Kid has no connections to the Stitchline other than black curly hair) meaning Cassidy must also be in UCN with Andrew 2: TOYSNHK is referred to with male pronouns and has the face of a boy while Vengeful Spirit has a feminine voice with the casting call having Vengeful Spirit labeled as female (also Scott said the voice actress did a great job which I doubt he'd view as the case if he really wanted a completely gender neutral voice). Since both TOYSNHK and the Vengeful Spirit are different genders, they're very likely different characters 3: The OMC's line "Leave the demon to his demons" could be referring to Cassidy leaving William to Andrew and his animatronic creations

  • @WitheredCircle
    @WitheredCircle3 күн бұрын

    ok i finally got to reading all of this and damn i need to make another vid on Andrew this is really interesting. thanks for your thoughts!

  • @TengryEmily1982
    @TengryEmily19824 күн бұрын

    Ahh, it's good to find a like-minded person I also agree with CassidyBoy that by "misrepresenting" CassidyGirl, third-party theorists are trying to justify Andrew in the first place. Although, honestly, it seems to me that VS/TOYSNHK can be of both genders, as Scott said. It's just that the girl is used mostly for fan content (but I'm still confused by girly whispers)

  • @sudsui7032
    @sudsui70324 күн бұрын

    Ok I would like to note 2 things 1st the time when they refer to Cassidy as a boy could be just a mispronounce of the gender just like with the puppet in fnaf 2 2nd I just reminded why people think Mike is the golden Freddy spirit, if ur like my cousins friend you only read the books and don't know game lore then u could think it's Mike bc of the trilogy

  • @tomkubus
    @tomkubus4 күн бұрын

    Cassidy never has been referred to as a boy, like, ever

  • @sudsui7032
    @sudsui70324 күн бұрын

    So did Charlie it was never said that she's a girl more of the opposite referenced as a boy + the books show Andrew with a alligator mask just like in the happiest day and he's not standing out or anything so he's one of the dead

  • @sudsui7032
    @sudsui70324 күн бұрын

    Finally I've been waiting so long for this

  • @TheWizardMus
    @TheWizardMus4 күн бұрын

    I think that with Ruin having fully brought a Book Exclusive Character into Games Canon with the Mimic, thats a soft confirmation that Andrew isnt canon to the games. With how Cassidy as a name was the main puzzle to the Security Logbook, and the changed file name for the Princess implying that file name WASNT a hint to lore, meaning Cassidy as a name is still thrown around and relevant enough for the mistake to be made in the first place, AND the fact that any reference to Fazbear Frights has been entirely arcade cabinet cameos(implying those stories cameoed are a Fazbear Entertainment Self Reference Jab like Help Wanted 1) AND the fact that the name Andrew has never once been even hinted at in Games Canon. Theres next to nothing besides his name scribbled on walls in the next mainline game that could convince me Andrew is a Games Canon Character. I will say while im not completely sold on Micheal as Vengeful Spirit from Duel Process Theory, I did really like the Cassidy is the Crying Child part of the theory, it cleans up a lot of my issues with Crying Child in Common Theory because otherwise after they get bitten theres not really a reason for them to be important enough to be brought back for the Security Logbook. CC hadnt been a character for years, showed up as the second half of a different characters introduction, and then disappeared again. The issue is that leaves me with no one to be the Vengeful Spirit, no name for the MCI kid in Golden Freddy, but personally I feel that's fine, thematic even. Golden Freddy always was a mystery, I feel their real name staying a mystery just sounds right.

  • @Lightman0359
    @Lightman03594 күн бұрын

    So, this still has the problem of: whoops, more dead kids by having Andrew and Cassidy in the games together, but, what if The Vengeful Spirit/TOYSNHK =/= Golden Freddy? By this I mean: Golden Freddy = Cassidy, springlocked so super-powered by extra agony, plus maybe a side of Crying Child [unless he is Shadow Freddy as others posit, doesn't matter for this, either works] Andrew = TOYSNHK/Vengeful Spirit = Old Man Consequences OMC appears to have a crocodilian head, Andrew is Gator-masked. OMC is "always watching" from the lake, and dissuades Adventure Fredbear [Crying Child, or is it supposed to be Charlie or Golden Freddy? I have heard all 3] from trying to save Afton or interrupt his torture. Threadbare I know, but it has been gnawing at me. Pick it apart, please

  • @captainet2457
    @captainet24574 күн бұрын

    I still believe in AndrewTOYSHNK

  • @captainet2457
    @captainet24574 күн бұрын

    Thoughts on UCNdissent?

  • @blueberryelf1150
    @blueberryelf11504 күн бұрын

    Twitter will kill you!!!! But you so right

  • @Oreo-kv4gc
    @Oreo-kv4gc4 күн бұрын

    The Golden princess is Cassidy golden Freddy also there red king old man old man Consequences giving golden Freddy cassidy princess the golden sword to battle fight against glitchtrap burntrap william.

  • @Sonicmid
    @Sonicmid4 күн бұрын

    GlitchMimic and burnmimic evidence: 0. Tiger rock who is mimic shows the ability to form to fit the environment (owl,cat,clock) The mascot of silver parasol games is a rabbit with clothes and glitch trap is a rabbit with a vest. So the reason why mimic is taking a rabbit form is because he’s trying to copy the mascot of SPG Glitchtrap mimics bonbon in VR 2 and turns himself into a plushy. The reason why he looks similar to spring Bonnie is because he’s using his memory of the hide and seek game he sees 1. William Afton in the games was last seen alive in his body trapped in UCN by TOYSNHK Andrew. UCN takes place at a hospital then William Afton in the books was last seen permanently dying in Stitchwraith Stingers #7. Glitchtrap is chronologically first seen inside a circuit board. William also in order to escape UCN later blows up his corpse(the already means his corpse is not burntraps) 2. Glitchtrap is said to be "some kind of malicious code" in tape 1. 3. The first place we see burntrap he in a recharge station. Mimic in the final epilogue gets deactivated and spring locked leaking oil for a while So that would imply he would need to recharge. 4. Glitchtrap, instead of using the robotic Spring Bonnie model that William LOVES, uses a mascot costume version of it. Mascot costumes are the costumes Mimic uses. (and no the OG spring Bonnie design doesn’t deconfirm this because the Monty within) 5. 0rGN is found in a HW teaser about Glitchtrap, 0rGN obviously means origin and it's the head of an endoskeleton. 6. Glitchtrap in tape 16 copies Tape Girl's voice to trick Vanessa into helping him. 7. HW2 endings has glitchtrap mimicking the endings of security breach The bad ending is re-creating glamrock Freddy’s death The good ending is re-creating princess quest 3 8. Glitchtrap doesn't know how to manipulate others, needs google to know wtf he's supposed to do. meanwhile afton is extremely intelligent and already knows that stuff. 9. Glitchtrap and Afton are shown to be separate things in the AR trailer's glitches. 10. Glitchtrap/Burntrap in the SB trailer doesn't exactly have William's voice but a mimic of it. ( likely was using another animatronic for The Voice ) 11. Glitchtrap in Princess Quest 1 mimics Blob and it's actions. 12. Burntrap (who is Glitchtrap) looks like a cheap copy of Springtrap. (Likely his corpse and costume come from agony) 13. Glitchtrap copies Moon in BBW (balloon boy world) 14. Mimic in RUIN copies Gregory's voicelines from SB. 15. Mimic1 is in VANNI. 16. Mimic1 is tied to the mask itself. 17. We literally need The Security Mask (repurposed Vanny mask or mask based off the Vanny mask) to help Mimic in RUIN. 18. Mimic is important in the DLC of SB (which is about GLITCHTRAP). 19. Gregory and Vanessa are shown to have trapped Mimic thanks to Candy Cadet, Gregory's backpack and walkie talkie in Mimic's lair, and Gregory knowing about MImic. 20. Gregory is scared Mimic will follow him and Vanessa, those 2 characters are victims of GLITCHTRAP. 21. There's the same Burntrap clawmark in both Burntrap's Office and Mimic's Lair. 22. Mimic's Lair is right under Burntrap's office. 23. Gregory says M.X.E.S. was meant to keep Mimic hidden, M.X.E.S is RABBIT THEMED (parent nodes have heads of rabbits) and the enitity meant to guard those nodes is based off GLITCHTRAP. 24. In HW2, we see HELPI again. He tells Cassie's dad to collect all 6 Faz-Force toys and gets impatient if you don't do it. At the end after you collect them all, he disappears and Glitchtrap appears, he makes you end up in MaskBot where you give Cassie the Security Mask used to help The Mimic escape the sinkhole. When we return to the hub after the credits end, we see HELPI in a vacation indicating he is somewhere else and all he wanted you to do is collect the toys which made Glitchtrap stronger. 25. In the story, prankster glitchtrap acts exactly like mimic even does the deep voice thing. 26. William never actually died in his spring Bonnie suit. Andrew kept him alive. In 6 you can hear William heartbeat in ucn meaning that it’s impossible for him to possess any circuit board 27. Glitchtrap dies in VR 2 confirmed by SW. this means he is not a soul. 28. Monty within is mimic and he does the exact same thing as glitchtrap. 29. Vr 1 mentioned in the opening “ real world, manifestations of digital characters” which is exactly what glitch trap is. A real world manifestation of a digital character. 30. in tales of the pizza Plex mimic is behind every VR game Under construction Monty within Drowning girl Tiger rock Monty and drowning girl both do digital transfers. Drowning girl turns the protagonist brain dead. 31. AR spring trap has the exact same run animation as mimic and mimic lines from other characters. “ I’ve living in shadows” Michael “ let’s see how many times you can be pulled apart” nightmare Fredbear “ I’m here to claim what’s left of you” nightmare 32. In world a character called mimic ball can create a green virtual Freddy. World has a big impact on the main story as a bunch of things come from there Virtual Freddy parallels glitchtrap And mimic ball parallels mimic 2.0 33. mimic ball copies Freddy like how mimic 2.0 was meant to copy Freddy Showtime routines 34. Helpi is mimicking Cassie’s dad and help trap is mimicking the on tour cartoon 35. In AR code. There’s lines like. “ is that your father” “ I will shut you down forever, just like you’re trying to do me” “ it hurts inside I want you to understand that I want to make you understand that” These lines only makes sense with mimic and Edwin’s relationship and is even backed up in the storytellers when Edwin writes “ I’m sorry” on the walls 36. Edwin gets PTSD and mention mimic 1 corruption happening again and the only thing it could be referring to AR glitchtrap corrupts the animatronics meaning he’s mimic

  • @tomkubus
    @tomkubus4 күн бұрын

    ​@@Sonicmidwhy are you listing GlitchMimic evidence? It's already an obvious fact (also Jesus Christ 36 points not even Willtrap has that much evidence)

  • @Sonicmid
    @SonicmidКүн бұрын

    @@tomkubus did you read their comment?

  • @tomkubus
    @tomkubusКүн бұрын

    @@Sonicmid NGL I didn't have the time to read through your entire comment although I already agreed with what you were saying, I skim read some of it and already knew most of the points hut it's nice that you compiled it into a large list like this

  • @Sonicmid
    @SonicmidКүн бұрын

    ⁠@@tomkubus I actually have 65 points I can’t put them all tho

  • @NaiFarang
    @NaiFarang5 күн бұрын

    Honestly I totally agree with you, and also whenever someone tells me "oh but Andrew is not a parallel to Cassidy because there character is different" I tell them I believe frights clues.

  • @Sonicmid
    @Sonicmid4 күн бұрын

    Cassidy’s not a parallel to Andrew because Andrew and Cassidy both exist in the same universe We also know nothing about Cassidy personality so they can’t really be a parallel to anything because there’s no character to work off (logbook shows that they’re kind of nice and that’s) Also, I fundamentally don’t think people understand the word parallel Mr.Burrows parallels William doesn’t mean they’re the same guy

  • @Eddbruh83
    @Eddbruh833 күн бұрын

    Hell yeah! FrightsClues gang! 💪💪💪🏿💪🏿💪🏽💪🏽

  • @Sonicmid
    @Sonicmid5 күн бұрын

    3:06: there’s no proof William was involved with any murders outside of the missing children’s incident Midnight motorist :

  • @NaiFarang
    @NaiFarang5 күн бұрын

    me being a MM Mike Believer: 😬

  • @Sonicmid
    @Sonicmid4 күн бұрын

    ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@NaiFarang it’s not 1. Fruity maze and security puppet are about kids William killed why would the 3rd be different? 2. The guy is orange and William always presented as purple even in 6 with the back alley poster that either represents the Aftons or Fnaf 6 enemies 3. Midnight motors house doesn’t match up with the five nights at Freddy’s 4 house and the mini game takes place after Charlie’s death and Charlie dies first 4. Orange guy while he is a terrible father he is showing to care about his son for the wrong reason while William doesn’t care about his kids at all him being neglectful is one of the plot points in the fourth closet 5. all of the mini games connect back to the central enemies of 6 Security puppet is lefty Fruity maze is molten Freddy Midnight motor is a scraptrap 6. The puppet victim in toy chica high school years has toy chica who represents William actively come to their house and even mentions knocking on the window 7. The footprints outside the house match with scraptrap suit. And scrap trap doesn’t seem to be a springlock suit 8. “That place again” is Fredbear someone did a map, layout, and lines up with the Fnaf 4 mini game map The bush leads to the road which leads to Fredbears 9. The mound is not only a reference to the twisted ones the mound lines up with the Fnaf 4 room 10: the house in the mini game has only one room and it’s shown that only 3 people live there 11: the “he’ll be sorry” when he gets back is supposed to be irony because the child is never coming back 12. Jrs probably isn’t some random bar. Since the name when it makes sense since juniors would be referring to kids 12. The mini games are about William’s first victims of something Charlie: Williams first kill ever Susie: Williams first MCI Andrew: Williams first nightmare, experiment victim 13. Each mini game involves a restaurant. 14. Afton’s car in curse of dreadbear doesn’t match with the midnight motorist car

  • @NaiFarang
    @NaiFarang4 күн бұрын

    @@Sonicmid it's still debatable

  • @sudsui7032
    @sudsui70324 күн бұрын

    That is a lot but bc of 2 big thing I think William is Cheetos guy 1st I think that Its the fnaf 4 house bc of the 2 windows on the side that match up with the 2 windows on the right of the fnaf 4 gameplay if u look at it that way it matches only the 2 hallways but it could just been shown in 1 to be smaller it's alr big outside 2nd as shown in foxy go go go that was the original MCI all victims are alive but after a couple rounds they are dead 3rd The unlimited guide points out that the grave could be a twisted animatronic baride in the ground just like shown in the twisted ones (I'm not saying it is a twisted animatronic but could be a nightmare or fun times) Questions what time do u think this is Bonus I do think that the feet outside the window do look like a spring bonnie thing I think that it is possible to be Cassidy the run away but some things hit hard with Afton being the cheetos man

  • @Eddbruh83
    @Eddbruh833 күн бұрын

    ​​@@Sonicmid ​Yo! Imma give some responses to your questions/arguments if you don't mind(even tho I'm not really sure if I am AftonMM): 1. I think they show different parts of Will's life because they are all related to him in a way. Also it's probably the strange one out of the 3 because we already knew about the MCI and Charlie's death. 2. Will is purple because "he's hiding in the shadows" or something like that. And btw, the poster has a higher chance to represent the Afton family because the puppet and the puppeteer looking alike. 3. This is a fair argument, but fans have speculated that the Aftons have different 2 houses so do with that what you will. Also neither Charlie dying first or this minigame being after her death have been confirmed(It doesn't even make much sense under AndrewMM anyway, why would William go after a random ass kid after he just got done killing another??) 4. Bro what?? When is Orange Guy showing to care for his son? Bro literally beats on his son's door for closing the door and barely seems to care when he's missing 😭 5. Me trying to find a minigame related to Elizabeth: 😶 6. While it's fair to assume that was Will's thinking process during his kills, a lot of those kills are goofy and should not be taken 1-1 for the most part. 7. I don't see how this is a problem for AftonMM 8. The place isn't confirmed to be Fredbear's and the map looking identical could just be a coincidence. Also what's the source on that information about the bush? Trust me bro? 9. Again, source: trust me bro? 10. Dam, didn't know the parents don't have anywhere to sleep. 11. For the third time, how do you know? Source: trust me bro? 12. A lot of bars in real life have goofy ass names. It's doesn't have to be that deep bro 😭 13. Pretty much every minigame in this franchise does. 14. A car that we can barely even see. And I don't think we should compare 8-bit sprites to a 3d model 🤦‍♂️ In conclusion, It's fine to believe AndrewMM, but just because it's plausible to you doesn't mean it's confirmed. Thank you.

  • @Sonicmid
    @Sonicmid5 күн бұрын

    It’s Andrew 1. Golden Freddy isn’t the toysnhk because you can deactivate him anytime and Fredbear and toyshnk have different voice actors in the same game. Toyshnk is voice by Tabitha Fredbear is voice by Kellen Goff (at the very lease he might be the reason why Andrew is dead) 2. Cassidy is a girl and the toysnhk is factually a male himself used his son as the picture and everyone refers to him as “him” 3. Nightmare says “the shadow fears me” and Andrew’s referred to as a shadow in the man in room 1280 4. The 6 kid is Andrew because the graphic novel shows that there’s 4 boys 2 two girls 5. Curse of dread bear has 8 graves around the purple one meaning William killed 8 people 6. Midnight motorist is perfectly set this up. There is a mysterious child a guy We don’t see who is a guy and has an abusive father then in the next game there is a boy who is extremely vengeful. To make things better midnight motors is literally referenced in ucn with the puppet highschool as Toy chica literally comes to their house and tries to get them out. Also we know the victims are out of order Because the wolf that represents Chica is second. 7. Fnaf 6 shows that William is alive in the suit and has a heartbeat this isn’t just a one time thing either this is a plot point in ucn in sleep no more where you can hear his heartbeat and confirmed in room 1280 where the culprit is Andrew giving him immortality. 8. Cassidy can never attach the Afton because of molten MCI and yes, molten MCI is confirmed and molten. Freddy is the golden Freddy representative of 6 Fnaf 1: golden Freddy Fnaf 2: withered golden Freddy Fnaf 3: phantom Freddy Fnaf 4: nightmare Fredbear Fnaf SL: Yenndo Fnaf 6: molten Freddy 9. Andrew was supposed to be a mirror of William and the entire theme of eisoptrophobia a fear of mirrors 10. VR 2 shows that Cassidy moved on and happiest day happen as the order lines up with the Fnaf 3 order and the lineup with the mini game sprites 11. The books are canned for a number of reasons. 12. Withered chica and mangle know the toyshnk from the vents. Withered chica line shows that this is the first time meeting which doesn’t work with golden Freddy at all as Chica is literally friends with golden Freddy and has seen them multiple times Fnaf 2: the opening cut scene (he even influences their behavior) Fnaf 3: follow me Fnaf 6: inside molten Freddy as shown in the fourth closet 13. Nightmare Freddy knows who the toynhk is and so does Jacko Chica (the nightmares seem to know him the best) 14. The toyshnk uses the mediocre melodies as his talking points not golden Freddy this implies he doesn’t have a vessel and he has a connection to those characters. Also golden Freddy has literally no connection to the mediocre melodies whatsoever, so why would he use them not his own animatronic 15. NedBears line. “ this is how it feels and you get to experience it over and over again” implies the toysnhk has experienced something similar to William. From the fact that most of the nightmare animatronics are aware of him and midnight motorist and the lack of a animatronic, (to make things better. He was supposed to use all 4 except Mr. hippo) we can come to the conclusion he’s one of William nightmare experiment victims. “That place again” being FredBears family diner because it’s connected sister location which is where the experiments are held 16. The books are canon. 17. UCN is basically another Fnaf 4 and very connected to it. 18. Despite his appearance in the void cut scene classic golden Freddy is never in the game actually so that cut scene has to be in the past 19. In omc mini game you can hear William screaming in the background which implies it’s happening during the Fnaf 6 fire. You can also hear the screaming in UCN menu 20. World is extremely connected to UCN in fact, their parallel opposites to each other. They both inside someone’s brain. Ucn being something William made for his son World something Andrew made for William 21. Toysnhk is the one in the menu cranking the AI which shows he and Golden Freddy are separate entities Evidence for spirits can influence the behavior of other spirits Golden Freddy in Fnaf 2 cutscenes, makes the animatronics more aggressive Puppet makes the spirits way more calmer in Fnaf 2 William influences Andrew’s behavior in the epilogues as he’s able to make him more aggressive without being notice So the one in UCN making the animatronics more aggressive is him This is even backed up in the menu. Sometimes you can hear the UCN sound

  • @captainet2457
    @captainet24574 күн бұрын

    Q: What are the counter arguments for StitchParallels?

  • @tomkubus
    @tomkubus4 күн бұрын

    ​@@captainet2457 1. Most of them use circular logic, aka, you could say something dumb like "Henry is an MCI kid" and then use parallels to back that up by the fact William killed the Mci, and if Henry is an MCI kid then he's one of them so by that logic Henry would be an MCI kid, a majority of parallels are logic less 2. Scott said that frights had new original characters/storylines along with some old ones making a return, Characters like Charlotte, Mike Afton, William Afton and Susie appeared in the books, While there were new and unique characters like Andrew, Jake, Larson, etc, meaning that them paralleling old storylines was unintentional 3. StichlineParallel is a baseless claim, it's never implied, Scott has never said to use parallels, and no one knows where it even came from

  • @captainet2457
    @captainet24574 күн бұрын

    @@tomkubus ok thanks

  • @Shadowmouse1234
    @Shadowmouse12344 күн бұрын

    ​@@tomkubus scott never told matpat he was wrong when he used that theory

  • @tomkubus
    @tomkubus4 күн бұрын

    @@Shadowmouse1234 I never said he did....

  • @bubbleshock14
    @bubbleshock145 күн бұрын

    I pretty much 100% agree with what you said about Andrew. He just seems so redundant. I guess one argumant could be made that Andrew is a DCI victim, but even if he is it seems weird for TOYSNHK to be a DCI victim when they have such a minor role.

  • @Sonicmid
    @Sonicmid4 күн бұрын

    Andrew is the midnight motorist kid and a nightmare experiment victim

  • @tomkubus
    @tomkubus4 күн бұрын

    Ucn adds a new MCI kid, Along with adding a new vengeful spirit who's confirmed not the be one of the main 6, it's kinda clear what's going on

  • @TDReads
    @TDReads5 күн бұрын

    I always felt the movie was too overlooked. It shows us that Golden Freddy has special powers, that he is aware that Afton is the killer before the other kids, and that he watches over Afton while he's suffering 👍

  • @Sonicmid
    @Sonicmid5 күн бұрын

    The movie doesn’t count because 1. Movies in alternate universe. 2. The Golden Freddy in the movie is a male. 3. He looks more like Kelsey than anybody 4. Golden Freddy’s victim has a different name in every continuity Mike Brooks, Kelsey For example 5. The entire building is special because it straight up only collapsed because William dies

  • @tobyonatabe2601
    @tobyonatabe26014 күн бұрын

    It's only supporting evidence, but as long as it fits the story its completely fine to use.​@@Sonicmid

  • @Miss_Heed_Lover
    @Miss_Heed_Lover3 күн бұрын

    ​@Sonicm Bro it's a parallel, with that all your "arguments" go to waste id

  • @Sonicmid
    @SonicmidКүн бұрын

    ⁠@@Miss_Heed_Lover uh no it is? What’s the parallel to William getting cooked by the cupcake?

  • @Miss_Heed_Lover
    @Miss_Heed_Lover16 сағат бұрын

    @@Sonicmid Not everything has to be parallel, there are things that happen differently and some that happen the same.

  • @WitheredCircle
    @WitheredCircle5 күн бұрын

    Leave a comment on your opinion, but be respectful! The hellhole account I brought up: x.com/WitheredCircle