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  @njiayakwelinauzima9 күн бұрын

  This biblical fact is giving some people a very hard time indeed! The evidences are too much to dismiss.

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  @wipo36542 күн бұрын

  The biblical facts you can find in a presentation video on my channel. Click icon W to the left. And the image itself is a severe reason to doubt. Andrew Dalton, one of the main Shroud apostles, cleary says that the shading depends on the distance between body and linen but he doesn't explain ... # There is no shading of the bodys' sides and the top of the head? # Also the contact-distance pattern of the backside doesn't correspond the forensic pattern of a dead body lying e.g. on a plate. # Folds, overlappings and wavy areas are inevitable. This must be visible on the Shrouds' image, but there is nothing like that. # And there is not any image distortion. Overall there are 5 severe biblical reasons to doubt. Videos like this ignore the Scripture because of the fascination for the image = icon > idol > Shroud obsession. I cannot prove all the pseudo-scientific Shroud arguments but everybody can easily "ask" the Scripture. I did and the result is a video presentation on my channel. Click icon W to the left.

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  @user-dw1jp7tp6i17 күн бұрын

  Sir, Basically I just keep posting SHROUD OF TURIN X PRIZE $10 MILLION DOLLAR X PRIZE TO ANYONE WHO CAN REPRODUCE IT BY ANY MEANS OR TECHNOLOGY. We need this to be an ENGINEERING CONTEST, not apologetics, leave that to the apologists, the shroud will "speak for itself". If Trump can raise $15 million in a few months time I'm sure the shroud can raise more. You need to set up the CROWD FUNDING, and for lack of a better word the "Vegas bookey" arena. A journal to chart the progress? Register applicants? Trust to hold the money? Platforms for promotion, UFO, CANDACE OWENS, JOE ROGAN, GLENN BECK, all these hugs platforms just say "go donate a few dollars". I think it could go way bigger than $10 million especially if you challenge Musk. The benefits, advanced technology, like a 40 billion watt ultra violet laser printer with AI that could embed 3D information and the inventors keep the patent. I think DARPA has been doing this since the shroud was investigated by STURP. I've been putting more thought into a rigorous shroud argument. 1. I use Henry Kyberg's EPISTEMOLOGICAL FORMULA PROB, w, l, (S)=(p,q). The probability of any statement S under a given worldview w, stated in a powerful enough language l, is equal to the frequency of each fact given a baysian weight in p,q. NOW, what questions are we going to ask about the shroud to construct statement S? The problem is in worldview w, and whether we are asking "natural" or "supernatural", physical means or miracle. These two are overlapped in the venn diagram because once the miracle "appears" it takes physical form, so if this is viewed as a bell curve the natural is the top half of the curve and miracle is at either extreme. The difference between alpha and omega at the opposite ends of the day curve is simply one of linnear time and true miracles affect, or effect, the way the laws of physics operate. This is sometimes called the quantum effect of "stirring the soup". At the fundamental level this makes Jesus in the resurrection identical with the big bang SINGULARITY and the shroud of Turin the by product of alpha and omega represented in top half of the bell curve as the physical artifact we can observe. OKAY, now let's ask what could produce the image that we understand from our knowledge of the physical world? Either CHEMICAL change (Maillard reaction) or ELECTROMAGNETISM (heat or light). Either must be intelligently designed because neither produce a detailed photo negative with 3D information by natural means. This means it could only have been constructed "accidentally" in the natural if the alpha and omega are identical or to use quantum language "entangled". You're probably familiar with the hypotheses of DAME PICZEK and FRANK TIPLER, I've simply combined language from both to say the shroud is evidence of a supernatural miracle, the resurrection, which the intentional product of the reason, purpose, and physics of the universe. As for the baysian analysis of the evidence in (p,q) that should be set up like the actuarial tables used by insurance companies. You might ask what amount of insurance would be given the shroud IF it could be reproduced. What amount would motivate someone to create technology that might reproduce the shroud? Do you see how powerful this proposition is? After the STURP study and the knowledge of the embedded 3D information IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THAT THE MILITARY DID NOT FURTHER STUDY IT FOR MILITARY APPLICATIONS not the least of which is to develop the technology to reproduce it. The shroud could only have been produced by God or ET. If ET has left technology to reverse engineer then the shroud would already have been reproduced and it would have been included as evidence in the congressional UAP investigations and hearings. Can you do FOIA REQUESTS to those agencies who would be studying the shroud? There's a website called THE BLACK VAULT that publishes FOIA documents and I've searched there for SHROUD OF TURIN, nothing yet but I don't know if he has requested shroud information. I look at it this way, if that carbon dating had said 1st century the publication of that information would have had military consequences. Our military has a religious doctrine called the BALANCE OF POWER. Israel does too and you see it talked about more in the Israeli press than the American. The goal is to create enough doubt or leave enough doubt in the Apologetics to prevent a theocracy or "justify" a militant fundamentalism. The too most likely candidates for the carbon dating fraud were CIA and MOSSAD. Why didn't the Pope verify the shroud? The RC intelligence agency is called the ENTITY (can't remember the old name but there's a book with the history called the ENTITY) and of course Russia, China and Turkey have their own. As far as Cambridge being involved Britain also has a huge stake as well as history of British Israelism. So the military study of the shroud would begin with an attempt to reproduce it using available medieval technology to prove it's a fraud. That didn't work. Only answer left is God or ET and if they could have proven ET using modern technology they would have used assets to publish that already. One of the latest best attempts at that was by WHITLEY STRIEBER and "award winning journalist" LINDA MOULTON HOWE who said she was taken to Area 51 and told by a General Jesus was not what we have been told. Lastly, having found the shroud can't be reproduced by any technology ancient or modern and the military presumption must be that some type of technology was used the race begins to develop the technology because it may have military applications and we can't let the enemy develop it first. Ok, for arguments sake, let's say Aliens did it with a 40billion watt ultra violet laser printer with AI that could embed 3D information. The problem is the blood, if Aliens left it for whatever reason the image would have been enough. Why add the blood? Why use human blood? That destroys the Alien hypothesis and if we are now reverse engineering Alien technology or are in contact why hasn't that solved the riddle of the shroud? The best theory, comparing the time lines of the alien phenomena and the shroud is that the need to keep the Alien phenomena a secret is disinformation to maintain the religious balance of power that Jesus Christ disrupted by leaving the shroud. Nothing about this is just conspiracy theory it's exactly what the military would be required to do and the steps it would be required to take to maintain national security. How do fight the military and intelligence agencies around the globe? Shroud of Turin, crowd funded, X Prize focused on pure engineering without the apologetics. The shroud will speak for itself. Thanks for all the work you have done.

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  @elviramcintosh987823 күн бұрын

  A magnificent prelude to reading and understanding the book. Thanks for recording this important explanation of C.S. Lewis' The Abolition of Man.

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  @christinaheesakacowden-wut3809Ай бұрын

  O.K. I was fascinated by this talk, but you guys seriously have to get your weaving techniques right and your fibers. Cotton and linnen are both plant fibers. No animal fibers. Animal fibers are for example sheep wool, silk, alpaca and so on. More on the herringbone weave: "... The Herringbone pattern dates back to the Roman Empire, where it was used in buildings its roadways. This interlocking paving system was built on top of a base of crushed stone, which cleverly absorbed the compression of traffic and footfall, making it extremely stable and durable.This innovative way of creating roads was revolutionary because cultivating a powerful infrastructure of roman roads was vital to maintaining and developing the Roman state. Herringbone can also be traced back to Ancient Egyptian jewellery worn by the elite. However, the earliest herringbone fabrics were found in Ancient Italy. ..." (kingandallen.co.uk/journal/article/the-history-of-herringbone/)

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  @jeannettefeutz1593Ай бұрын

  And who care about a shroud ?!! When Jesus is not Dead anymore???!!!!! He is alive and will come back again very soon focused in Christ and be a Doers and listen to his commands!!!!! 😡😡😤🌱🙏🏻🤷🏼‍♀️

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  @jeannettefeutz1593Ай бұрын

  And this is what Catholic follows they should be ashamed and seek Christ only and alone,!!! This people are leading you to Hell !!!!😡😤🤷🏼‍♀️

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  @ilovecatsijustlovecats3944Ай бұрын

  🤔 IF the Catholic church and the 40,000 protestatant denominations (who all hold different beliefs) just which faith is the correct one?

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  @susanbelida6981Ай бұрын

  ❤❤ Beautiful. Reverent and Holy. Thank you Jesus for the Mass. Amen.

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  @billyboasiako1775Ай бұрын

  Revelation 22:16 Jesus Christ is EROS Lucifer morningstar POMPEII Roman earthquake plus volcano mountain Vesuvius erupt end, sin City 😮 Luke 22:7_38 Jesus Christ EROS Lucifer morningstar Last supper from table to the grave Evidence Capuchin crypt and catacombs CHARLEMAGNE CROSS ❌😅

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  @kerriblache4685Ай бұрын

  The Urantia Book has some additional information and fascinating narratives to add to the topic.

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  @Lazarus36518 күн бұрын

  Like what?

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  @eudesllemosАй бұрын

  turn on captions, please 😢

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  @MrTzarBombАй бұрын

  Notice they try to dress the Novus Ordo in TLM clothing... yet, it is just a mannequin of the real thing.

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  @DoctorDewgongАй бұрын

  The documents of Vatican II make it clear that the Novus Ordo should have Gregorian chant, Latin etc. The people in this video are being true to that.

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  @MrTzarBombАй бұрын

  @@DoctorDewgong V2 didn’t mandate a Novus Ordo. The NO isn’t true to Sacrosanctum Concillium. In any case, a liturgy made by a Freemason can’t supplant the Apostolic liturgy.

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  @sopadeeletrasАй бұрын

  Beautiful, may God bless all of you.

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  @CarloAcutis-nu2geАй бұрын

  Magnifico! Thank you so much to God and His Holy Church. The Catholic faith is a treasure, the Kingdom of Heaven

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  @tomasm.m6101Ай бұрын

  It is clear that he does not have the "ars celebrandi" that celebrating the traditional Roman Mass provides!

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  @sleeplesshead602Ай бұрын

  In this crazy world where beauty is being searched by a lot of people, craved for, the Mass offers that. It's beautiful and heals my soul. The Eucharist is the center of it. That's why it is beautiful :)

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  @bgbbffАй бұрын

  Just saw the movie Jesus thirst, very solid movie

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  @garystanfield2274Ай бұрын

  IT IS A BIG FAT LIE. LAZARUS WAS WRAPPED IN LENEN PIECES, THEY DID NOT USE BIG PIECES OF CLOTH LIKE THEY SAY THE SHROUD IS.

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  @jeffreyerwin3665Ай бұрын

  Yes, you were there and know all about it! (LOL!)

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  @garystanfield2274Ай бұрын

  @@jeffreyerwin3665 Lol, This Roman priest acts like he was there, I use scriptures to disprove this Roman lie.

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  @jeffreyerwin3665Ай бұрын

  @@garystanfield2274 Nonsense. Scripture does not falsify the authenticity of the Shroud. And science proves that it is authentic. Sir, you obviously had a bias against the Shroud and are probably spouting JW propaganda.

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  @garystanfield2274Ай бұрын

  @@jeffreyerwin3665 I'm biased against the Roman lies. Tell me how they have nail wounds in the fake shroud? You most likely believe that John Zebedee was told that Mary was his mother and so he took her home and took care of her, right? That is another Roman fabricated story, scriptures prove that it is also a made-up lie.

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  @jeffreyerwin3665Ай бұрын

  @@garystanfield2274 The Gospels were not written by Rome, and they confirm the authenticity of the Shroud. Sir, your ranting is nothing more than JW propaganda.

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  @Michael_Chandler_KeatonАй бұрын

  The real mass is beautiful. Novus Ordo is heretical trash.

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  @DoctorDewgongАй бұрын

  It's time for you to move out of your edgy teenager phase now. A Mass promulgated by a Saint is not "heretical trash." It might be time to remove yourself from the terminally online echo chambers and practice some real Faith, Hope, and Charity in the real world.

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  @Michael_Chandler_KeatonАй бұрын

  @@DoctorDewgong No. I stand in the grand tradition. NOTHING I believe isn't backed by two millennia of firm Catholic teaching. I don't make any claims that cannot be validated and confirmed with councils, constitutions & papal decrees.

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  @Michael_Chandler_KeatonАй бұрын

  @@DoctorDewgong Faith, Hope and Charity are founded, first and foremost upon truth. The Church has never condoned heresy, schism and paganism. ALL of which every Pope since Pius XII have been plainly and publicly guilty of affirming and condoning.

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  @DoctorDewgongАй бұрын

  @@Michael_Chandler_Keaton which part of the Novus Ordo have you decided is heretical?

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  @Vinsanity997Ай бұрын

  Love the beautiful Latin mass

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  @mayhem_0817Ай бұрын

  Yes the mass, very biblical

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  @DoctorDewgongАй бұрын

  Unironically yes

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  @Lerian_VАй бұрын

  Beautifully done 👏

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  @Pierre844Ай бұрын

  ❤

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  @yungbmanАй бұрын

  Although i attend divine liturgy regularly I'm glad that i also have access to the latin mass whenever i want to go

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  @CurtosiusMaximus8282 ай бұрын

  The TLM is beautiful. The NO is kind of cringe.

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  @DoctorDewgongАй бұрын

  Uh...the NO in this video did not seem cringe to me

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  @CurtosiusMaximus828Ай бұрын

  @@DoctorDewgong the NO in this video is not representative of the vast majority of NOs.

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  @randolphguerrero19602 ай бұрын

  Amen!🙏

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  @edmonddantes99_2 ай бұрын

  Great video! Keep em coming

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  @mikhailjoshuapahuyo14312 ай бұрын

  I LOVE LOVE LOVE BEING CATHOLIC

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  @tradikatolik48842 ай бұрын

  It's not Latin Mass... :(

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  @DoctorDewgong2 ай бұрын

  it's not allowed everywhere. I am sure these students are extremely grateful for the Mass they have. stay humble

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  @orangemanbad2 ай бұрын

  The Catholic church would flourish once again if they implanted Gregorian chant music, ad orienteum and altar rails and keep the mass in English or native tongue. That’s what we all desire.

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  @andrewmarusic1975Ай бұрын

  It is incredibly presumptuous to say "what we all desire." It's the TLM and not NO, which offers the points you made, except latin mass does not use the vernacular of the local language. Latin is the tradition. Gregorian chant is beautiful because it is not English.

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  @orangemanbadАй бұрын

  @@andrewmarusic1975 it’s not presumptuous at all. I attend TLM and I know for a fact it would increase faith greatly among Catholics. Most NO Catholics don’t even believe the faith anymore.

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  @Diggles67Ай бұрын

  I attend a ‘solemn’ cathedral mass. The liturgy is in English but the Kyrie, Gloria, Sanctus, Agnus Dei, etc. are all sung in Greek (Kyrie) and Latin by a full polyphonic choir. The archbishop will chant the eucharistic prayer and use incense. It’s a good combination.

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  @orangemanbad2 ай бұрын

  Sadly most of the beauty of the mass was removed in the new mass. As a millennial family we found the TLM and absolutely love it’s beauty and majestic encounters with God.

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  @frjimt22862 ай бұрын

  What have we to show for balloons, banners & polyester vestments....as well, for us priests to prepare & pray....

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  @Roman-qx3le2 ай бұрын

  Amazing! Congrats for such a stunning documentary

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  @andrewhoffer56702 ай бұрын

  Absolutely stunning. The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is the greatest act we can participate in. It is where Heaven and Earth come together - Glory be to Jesus Christ in His Church. So blessed, and so proud to be Catholic!

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  @GenevieveCKnight2 ай бұрын

  Amen 🙏

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  @user-en1py9dv6w2 ай бұрын

  Does anyone know the title of the piece of music being sung at 4:50?

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  @Austin-if4ht2 ай бұрын

  Laudetur Jesus Christus 🙏⛪🕊️ Io sono rimasto Cristiano Cattolico. Il vescovo vestito di bianco è un bestemmiatore blasfemo ateo: Anatema

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  @jacobyates40162 ай бұрын

  You misspelled blasphemy

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  @JackjackTheThird2 ай бұрын

  Emphasis on Traditional Latin Mass…that is where the true vocations are blooming and growing.

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  @Conorthedad2 ай бұрын

  Wow, been to two masses this nice in my life. Most parishes suck

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  @DoctorDewgong2 ай бұрын

  gregorian chant isn't too hard to learn. Chanting the ordinary of the Mass is less than 10 minutes of music to learn. any cantor or choir can do it

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  @augustinemarybenedict2 ай бұрын

  This is so beautiful

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  @michaelcordova85152 ай бұрын

  Thank you!

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  @MacheteMambi2 ай бұрын

  Reference the implementation of the Traditional Latin Mass at Princeton: We all know the problems with Francis and his crackdown on the Catholic Mass. ie The Apostolic Latin Rite. Which very few Catholics know that these crackdowns by the masonic leftists inside the Church are illicit in that they violate at least two important Church documents. One by a Pope (QUO PRIMUM - Saint Pope Pius V) which canonized the Traditional Latin Rite for "all perpetuity" under threat of excommunication for those who dared to change it and One by a Church Council (SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL - (Sacrosanctum Concilium) “The sacred Council declares that holy Mother Church holds all lawfully acknowledged rites to be of equal right and dignity; that she wishes to preserve them in the future and to foster them in every way (Sacrosanctum Concilium, 4). Vatican II’s Decree on the Sacred Liturgy, “Sacrosanctum Concilium,” also commanded that “the use of the Latin language is to be preserved in the Latin rites,” as the norm for the celebration of Holy Mass. Similarly, Vatican II gave Gregorian chant in Latin “pride of place in liturgical services." The faithful were to learn to sing the Gregorian Chant responses proper to them for the Sung Mass. Vatican II also required that Latin be taught to seminarians during their priestly formation. In effect , the Second Vatican Council never called for the implementation of a new man made Mass: the novus order. That was a creation by an apparent masonic Cardinal (Anibal Bugnini) that duped Pope Paul 6 and it was forced unto the Church in 1970. Thereafter Paul 6 declared "the smoke of satan has entered the church" and ordered an investigation by Cardinal Edward Gagnon into masonic infiltration in the Church. Paul 6 fell ill and nothing was ever done on the reports findingsmwhuch some suggest confirmed the masonic infiltration. Read MURDER IN THE 33 DEGREE by Father Charles Murr and Infiltration by Dr Taylor Marshall. So the question is how did we get to a point where we have a pontiff persecuting the Mass of Ages and the very one that produced the great Saints. That same Mass is now illicit? Well. Francis, objectively speaking, violates Church laws and mandates as aforementioned. His role is to be the caretaker of the Deposit of thr Faith and of the Sacred Tradition which he has failed and in fact seems to be acting against it. So what shall we do? Be like Saint Robert Bellarmine and ignore Francis. We have no obligation to follow mandates that violate Church law, Sacred Tradition and the teachings of Christ. That's why we also ignore Fiducias Supplicans and the skittle blessings. And so on and so forth. So Princeton Catholics. Demand a TLM. A college parish is exempt from Tradiciones Custodes the document which set forth the crackdown against Holy Mother Church's most important function. The Sacred Liturgy. The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

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  @Nuiteux922 ай бұрын

  Magnifique, from Paris, France.

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  @KnightGeneral2 ай бұрын

  This is great and all good but it doesnt mean a Mass without good Music like this one is a lesser Mass, its still a Mass. I actually appreciate more, Masses I attend within a slum area where I sit on the simplest chairs, I hear & see the most simplest choir with songs sung from the heart than going to a Majestic Looking Mass where the senses are too elevated. I think it is better to let the young experience the simplest of Mass to Grand like this one. Never let them experience just this one because when All Grand things dissapear like during a war or big typhoon, they can still undestand that it is still a Mass.

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  @DoctorDewgong2 ай бұрын

  The Mass in this video is not grand. This is the standard for what a simple and beautiful Mass should be

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  @blahblah41292 ай бұрын

  This is cringy. Orthodox Christianity ☦ predates Catholicism, which is heresy.

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  @antonioj.castaneda73772 ай бұрын

  Literally the Orthodox Christian Divine Liturgy every Sunday throughout the Orthodox Christian world. IC XC NIKA ☦️☦️☦️

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  @mariac7105Ай бұрын

  Orthodox Christians broke away from the Catholic Church kzread.info/dash/bejne/h5iizNSOgc7Uc9Y.htmlsi=tU0FHeb0k410RiG3

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  @mariac7105Ай бұрын

  Orthodox Christians broke away from the Catholic Church kzread.info/dash/bejne/laaO1bivYZqdYqg.htmlsi=Nft6N7HQzt6KTM9d

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  @mariac7105Ай бұрын

  Orthodox Christians broke away from the Catholic Church kzread.info/dash/bejne/laaO1bivYZqdYqg.htmlsi=Nft6N7HQzt6KTM9d

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  @mariac7105Ай бұрын

  kzread.info/dash/bejne/laaO1bivYZqdYqg.htmlsi=Nft6N7HQzt6KTM9d

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  @trientihs9842 ай бұрын

  Don‘t hesitate and go to the traditional Latin Mass

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  @KnightGeneral2 ай бұрын

  Its best to go to Novus Ordo Mass like this one.

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  @DoctorDewgong2 ай бұрын

  ​@@KnightGeneraleither is fine

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  @homethatilove4595Ай бұрын

  If you can go to Trad Latin Mass, it's Incredibly gorgeous & reverent. We don't need to see the Priest's face, except during his homily, and more beautiful parts of the old Rite

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  @octaviorojasmunoz18372 ай бұрын

  Beautiful video Viva Cristo Rey 🙌🏼

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  @carlos.sierra2 ай бұрын

  Excellent video 👏🏼

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  @litoboy52 ай бұрын

  Praise the Lord

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  @jedhicks86322 ай бұрын

  Reformed Christians need to bring a lot of these beautiful things back into worship. Meanwhile, can y'all please stop worshipping Mary? Super gay. Creeps me out.

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  @nicikoch12342 ай бұрын

  Maybe you haven't found out yet, that you have a heavenly mother. Wouldn't you sometimes sing a song for your mother out of love towards her? Just, because you want to show her your love? Of course Jesus isn't "jealous", when we honour HIS and our mother, as he's not jealous when we honour our earthly mothers in singing them a song. So don't worry. Accept Mary as your mother too. John Chapter 19: 26 Seeing his mother and the disciple whom he loved standing near her, Jesus said to his mother, 'Woman, this is your son.' 27 Then to the disciple he said, 'This is your mother.' And from that hour the disciple took her into his home. 28 After this, Jesus knew that everything had now been completed God bless you!

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  @jedidiahhicks88432 ай бұрын

  God’s bride is the Church. This is our heavenly mother if anyone. I see no scripture that would say otherwise. I might sing a song to my mom while she’s here, but if I prayed or sung to her after she was dead that would either be idolatry or witchcraft (consulting a medium), both of which we should reject.

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  @jedidiahhicks88432 ай бұрын

  The scripture you provided I think only grants that Mary was a mother in Christ to the believers around her just like I’m a brother in Christ to all the believers around me. That doesn’t mean people should worship me when I’m dead. Again, that would be idolatry or witchcraft.

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  @nick_romeo2 ай бұрын

  Brother, please consider breaking out of the jail you're in. You're in a jail built up of walls of anti catholicism. If you love God, you will Find out for yourself. If you love yourself more than God, you will not grow in the spiritual life. You've already with few words demonstrated where you are in your prayer life. May God Bless You and send you many Graces.

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  @Nefertum10002 ай бұрын

  Funny! We don’t “ worship” Mary, we ask for intercession to her Son, Our Lord. To Jesus through Mary

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  @MacheteMambi2 ай бұрын

  This is much better than 99.9 % of the typical novus order mass BUT You need to switch to The Mass of The Ages. The Traditional Latin Mass. The prayers are different than the novus order. Which is man made and started in 1970. Stick to The Apostolic Mass organically developed for 1,970 years. The Mass of Padre Pio and all the great Saints of Holy Mother Church. Seems this is a hybrid novus order. Get Real deal. You need the TLM. God Bless you.

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  @Daniel-qi5hj2 ай бұрын

  The Church is an organism that develops. The TLM is not the "true Mass." No rite of the Catholic Church is the "true Mass." They are all the same Mass and celebrated differently according to traditions and the promulgations of the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church gave us the Novus Ordo as a manner to celebrated the Mass. It can be celebrated in different ways. You are acting in an almost Gnostic way. You do not hold any "secret knowledge" about the "true Mass" because there is no true Mass. The Church hands down the manners of celebrating Mass. And you are not the Church.

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  @MacheteMambi2 ай бұрын

  @Daniel-qi5hj You need to READ UP on Catholic Church history and Papal Mandates. The Tridentine Mass is the Apostolicn and Organically developed for over 1,970 years and Canonized by Saint Pope Pius V in QUO PRIMUM. Vatican 2 also ratified it as The Roman Rite and Pope Benedict 16th Doubled Down and did the same. The novus order is a cult created by man. By leftists, protestants and Masons. Whose aim was to destroy the Church and the belief in the True Presence. And success it had. Novus Order violates Vatican 2 and QUO Primum and separates itself from The One True Holy Catholic Apostolic Church. It's valid but illicit. Sorry. I'm not participating in a rite concocted by Masons and protestants. I'll stick to The One True Mass. The Mass of the Ages. The Mass of Padre Pio, St Agustine, St Thomas etc etc

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  @Nefertum10002 ай бұрын

  After the council, the Mass had major alterations. Just simply make your own judgement after reading a 2002 missal vs a 1962 missal.

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  @monicadede172 ай бұрын

  Mass is mass. Whether its a TLM or Forma Ordinaria. I love TLM, my wedding was in TLM. but i live in the country who reguler monthly TLM is sacrificed only in our capital Jakarta. Its the understanding of what is mass and the presence of Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament is the point, no matter what mass you in.

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  @MacheteMambi2 ай бұрын

  @@monicadede17 So it's OK to go to an eastern Orthodox liturgy?