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  • @kamukoemuh
    @kamukoemuh14 сағат бұрын

    ' Where u with ur uncle ' 😂😂😂

  • @carolkoski4875
    @carolkoski4875Күн бұрын

    thanks so much for that, Ive been obsessing over these two but not enough to watch all the scenes focused on men on this show

  • @Trissogynist
    @TrissogynistКүн бұрын

    I wonder if the weird HotD sapphics see minor girls irl or something and fetishize them too.

  • @Tekirai
    @TekiraiКүн бұрын

    Just wanna say: Otto started it

  • @treblebat
    @treblebat2 күн бұрын

    Straights: ugh why does everything have to be gay? They're just besties. Sapphics: you know nothing.

  • @mrthanos8140
    @mrthanos81403 күн бұрын

    I know the meaning of them adding the sneaking to the sept now it’s like when they were kids praying. They are trying to make blacks seem like the good guys though when I mean I guess rhaenyra was always the rightful one more messed up stuff happened in the books.

  • @Mark-ke1rj
    @Mark-ke1rj4 күн бұрын

    So is the blonde one supposed to look a little inbred? Because she's kind of strange looking. I know the Targryens married their siblings and she just doesn't look quite right.

  • @keleighiorek99
    @keleighiorek995 күн бұрын

    Any other King would've had Alicent punished or killed for harming the Princess like that.

  • @mrthanos8140
    @mrthanos81403 күн бұрын

    He should’ve had her out and let her make no choices. Never should’ve married her to begin with and passed the throne on.

  • @keleighiorek99
    @keleighiorek993 күн бұрын

    @@mrthanos8140 I just find it so hypocritical that she's constantly on Rhaenyras ass about Viserys favoritism, when Alicent herself gets special treatment all the fucking time.

  • @anezkaknezkasnezka
    @anezkaknezkasnezka5 күн бұрын

    Haha "Fu*k the Septa" :D

  • @voluntarism335
    @voluntarism3353 күн бұрын

    thought she said "burn the septa"

  • @jradjj2988
    @jradjj29885 күн бұрын

    I think it’s incredibly vile and hypocritical that alicent would be upset about doing stuff with her uncle when she got with her best friends dad and had children with him, then proceeded to marry her own son and daughter together.

  • @tracys169
    @tracys169Күн бұрын

    And having an ongoing sexual affairs with Criston Cole and some feet-fetish act with Larys Strong...ew.

  • @pokemcnmaster
    @pokemcnmaster21 сағат бұрын

    Okay young Alicent had no choice and she was clearly miserable and upset about having to marry Viserys. Say what you want about her marrying her children to each other when she gets older but Young Alicent was a victim

  • @updeshveersingh4984
    @updeshveersingh49846 күн бұрын

    Friends to swore enemies

  • @natalie651
    @natalie6516 күн бұрын

    HBO replaces the women actresses but not the men? Of course.

  • @TimberlakeTigerGirl
    @TimberlakeTigerGirlКүн бұрын

    They have to in order to show the passage of time. They also switched up Laenor's actor because he was around the same age as Rheanyra.

  • @loppy6481
    @loppy64816 күн бұрын

    Watching this back after Emma and Olivia, the older versions actually feel like the older ones.. even by the actresses and visuaully.

  • @ImBrockatron
    @ImBrockatron6 күн бұрын

    i think most guys would say rhaenyras actress is hotter, but id 100% take alicents.

  • @catboymiles7224
    @catboymiles72247 күн бұрын

    watching these scenes just make me want to reread ‘her shim cheong’

  • @catboymiles7224
    @catboymiles72247 күн бұрын

    never seen this show but man these two deserve to be in a franchise where they will not only be understood better by the fans and also get to end up happier. i would deeply fear any fandom like this one watchinf smthn like revolutionary girl utena

  • @conmaxanhle123
    @conmaxanhle1238 күн бұрын

    Ok Lesbian

  • @iappledarby
    @iappledarby9 күн бұрын

    I don't understand why alicent cared if not for jealously

  • @jjs1300000
    @jjs130000010 күн бұрын

    Alicent and Rhaenyra deserved better along with Alicent’s children. If Rhaenyra had tried to hear out Alicent, then maybe things would’ve been different.

  • @smokingweed2128
    @smokingweed21283 күн бұрын

    Hear her out for what Alicent started it tf

  • @111694R1
    @111694R110 күн бұрын

    It’s sad that they got pull apart all because someone wanted power

  • @b.tiwari1121
    @b.tiwari112111 күн бұрын

    It would be best if they just united and ruled together. This way they wouldn't be under anyone. The female against female trope is an eyeroll.

  • @Ariana-wv4pf
    @Ariana-wv4pf11 күн бұрын

    It's reality. Females have no solidarity or loyal bone towards their own gender.

  • @TimberlakeTigerGirl
    @TimberlakeTigerGirlКүн бұрын

    ​@@Ariana-wv4pfLike men have any room to talk about loyalty and solidarity. Men are 20× more likely to kill each other over the littlest of offenses and that is scientific fact.

  • @liliyahuggins2136
    @liliyahuggins213615 күн бұрын

    I wana feel bad for Alicent but that situation just screams jealousy. Alicent is broken but her butting into things is just incredibly condescending and stupid.

  • @KennyG881
    @KennyG881Ай бұрын

    Friends make the absolute worst enemies.

  • @alasdairmacleod7769
    @alasdairmacleod776919 күн бұрын

    I learned that. The hard way

  • @houseofmatrix6174
    @houseofmatrix61747 күн бұрын

    @@alasdairmacleod7769🙏🏿 me 2

  • @blancapieles5774
    @blancapieles57743 күн бұрын

    THIS

  • @vitopellegrini6773
    @vitopellegrini67733 ай бұрын

    The way Rhaenyera lies to Alicent in the weird wood tree is chilling.

  • @phousefilms
    @phousefilmsАй бұрын

    Truth. The worst part is, she swears on the memory of her mother, when Alicent's love of her own dead mother was such a sore spot. No wonder Alicent "declares war". (Green supporter here. Know the show tries to slant things so we like the Blacks and only the Blacks, but I prefer Green, especially since Rhaenyra acts all innocent at all times and then treats others like they're awful.)

  • @KunoBu
    @KunoBu10 күн бұрын

    She had no choice

  • @phousefilms
    @phousefilms10 күн бұрын

    @@KunoBu She had a choice. She could have said that she went into the brothel with him, that they did have wine, etc; Sure, Criston outed her later because of his need to regain his honor, but the lie was what did it. Because Rhaenyra lied, not only did she have Otto sent away(for something she was pretty much guilty of), but she lied on the memory of her mother(remember that Alicent was very vulnerable about her mother, which she explained to Viserys about and how she convinced Rhaenyra to pray for her own mother)and in the Godswood, their special place. Just sayin'.

  • @KunoBu
    @KunoBu10 күн бұрын

    @@phousefilms admitting to any wrong doing even though it's her rapey uncle to blame would mean running her and her claim. Allicent knows that. Rhaenyra lost her mom too.

  • @phousefilms
    @phousefilms10 күн бұрын

    @@KunoBu Like, saying, sleeping with a man not her husband and having three bastards? Or being indignant at being accused of what she definitely did? Lol.

  • @Kyloprince2744
    @Kyloprince27443 ай бұрын

    6:57 love that part Alicent jealous because she married a older man

  • @harpereloise7973
    @harpereloise79733 ай бұрын

    IMO it would probs have been MUCH BETTER if Alicent was shown as being scared of Rhaenyra from the start - better if Alicent is shown not to have befriended her by free will, but because her dad wanted her to. Kinda like Mai & Ty Lee with Azula.

  • @tracys169
    @tracys169Күн бұрын

    My theory is since everyone keeps talking about how Alicent was doing what her father was telling her. I think Alicent, naturally would not have befriended Rhaenyra otherwise. She only befriended Rhae because Otto pushed her to it. Rhae was around her age (younger by a year IIRC)...Perhaps she did end up liking Rhaenyra but I think if Alicent is the type who just does everything told (duty), then tsk, yeah, it was not her choice to befriend Rhaenyra as well.

  • @rodrigobenitez4404
    @rodrigobenitez44045 ай бұрын

    6:03 Ouch, Alicent definitely felt that one

  • @BleedingGrafitti
    @BleedingGrafitti5 ай бұрын

    1:40 you can see the genuine love in their eyes. They were in love with each other (confirmed by the actors) and it was destroyed by Otto's monstrous greed and ambition. I would love to see an alternate universe where they run away together on the back of Syrax.

  • @PedroSantos-rm3vy
    @PedroSantos-rm3vy4 ай бұрын

    Kkkkkkkkkkkk

  • @Ariana-wv4pf
    @Ariana-wv4pf11 күн бұрын

    They weren't lesbians. I mean, there is nothing sexual in their closeness. And Raenyra lusts after men and sleeps with them against her better judgment. They were childhood friends turned enemies. Happens all the time.

  • @MrMustache-yn4zm
    @MrMustache-yn4zm9 күн бұрын

    I hate it when Actors like to change the lore of the books, they were absolutely not in love (But the show and the book is different so you could argue)

  • @lightofthelives
    @lightofthelives7 күн бұрын

    ​@@MrMustache-yn4zmwomp womp

  • @maximiniminimaxi7453
    @maximiniminimaxi74537 күн бұрын

    @@MrMustache-yn4zm like you said it is free for interpretation in the series. Their bond was almost romantic to me

  • @peachbunnys01
    @peachbunnys015 ай бұрын

    Y’all act like Rhaenyra owed Alicent trust or loyalty after seducing her FATHER and keeping it a secret

  • @CrazyAim8
    @CrazyAim84 ай бұрын

    She was groomed by her father, this isn't the 21st century were she could girl boss all over Otto and watch empowering feminist tik tok. She had to obey, she bit her nails and was stressed obviously the context clues of a nervous kid being forced into something abhorrent. But keep sucking on that copium.

  • @RedTunaRoll
    @RedTunaRoll3 ай бұрын

    ??? Alicent didn’t seduce Rhaenyra’s father. Otto was the one who manipulated them into getting married and all their interactions. Rhaenyra is well aware she was forced into this, 5:58 is a prime of example. Rhaenyra realizes she’s being insensitive complaining about having to get married and forced to have heirs when she realizes that’s what happened to Alicent. She silently holds Alicent’s hand as a way of apologizing. It’s not a black and white situation. Rhaenyra is upset Alicent married her dad but knows she had no choice in the matter. Alicent knows she has to do her duty but still wanted to be friends with Rhaenyra. Sadly once they became adults their relationship completely broke apart.

  • @peachbunnys01
    @peachbunnys013 ай бұрын

    @@RedTunaRoll Alicent went to him several nights after his wives birth to get him interested in her use your brain

  • @RedTunaRoll
    @RedTunaRoll3 ай бұрын

    @@peachbunnys01 That was Otto's doing. Otto was the one who literally pimped his daughter out, episode 2 and 3 showcase this. He knew it was his chance to put the Hightowers into power and used his daughter. This show isn't black or white with one party being good and one party being bad. Literally rewatch 5:58 with Rhaenerya knowing Alicent had no choice in the matter.

  • @catboymiles7224
    @catboymiles72247 күн бұрын

    fans of this franchise really do not have any media literacy because how do you blame a literal teenager over the many grown men that forced them to be in this situation in the first place

  • @juliamiller5120
    @juliamiller51205 ай бұрын

    I think a lot of people are missing one key thing in Alicent’s growing resentment for Rhaenyra. Rhaenyra is one of the few women in their world who has some semblance of a choice in her fate. She has very little say but she does have some because she is Viserys’s heir. Alicent has none. Because she is a woman of nobility she was used as a pawn as a lot of noble women were. If Alicent had pulled half the crap Rhaenyra has pulled, she’d have been either exiled or executed. Not to say that Rhaenyra was wrong to have her affair with Lord Strong, but Alicent’s outrage was justified because it was always so blatantly obvious. And everyone was turning a blind eye. There’s such blatant hypocrisy there that it’s painful to watch. So imagine how Alicent felt.

  • @peachbunnys01
    @peachbunnys015 ай бұрын

    Her father wanted her to seduce the king to give him power, she wasn’t even considered a candidate until she started showing up at the kings room at night. She chose to do this and keep it a secret from her friend

  • @peachbunnys01
    @peachbunnys015 ай бұрын

    That’s not Rhaenyra fault and she owes nothing to Alicent especially not honesty

  • @juliamiller5120
    @juliamiller51204 ай бұрын

    @@peachbunnys01 no she doesn’t. She has every right to take every emotional outlet and advantage she can. But imagine how excruciating it much have been for Alicent to watch. There’s a special kind of hell that comes from watching someone you love get everything you want.

  • @peachbunnys01
    @peachbunnys014 ай бұрын

    @@juliamiller5120 Alicent is a awful friend and person, you don’t get to take your shit out on your past friend because YOU did something to her. Alicent chose to seduce her friends father

  • @phousefilms
    @phousefilmsАй бұрын

    Rhaenyra also lied to Alicent in the Godswood(their special place, though Alicents gods are the Seven)and swore on the memory of her mother that she was innocent of everything(which was already a sore spot for Alicent, who loved her mother so dearly and shared how she prayed for her). Alicent was fully justified in becoming angry with Rhaenyra. I just think it's ridiculous how Rhaenyra later demands the Targaryen sons be questioned "harshly"(aka tortured)to learn where they learned to call her Strongs "bastards". Rhaenyra:"How dare you say something true?"

  • @moinschatz777
    @moinschatz7776 ай бұрын

    Its so disgusting that the king choose to marry a girl that is as young as his daughter just to use her as a birthing maschine

  • @Its_just_Cronal
    @Its_just_Cronal6 ай бұрын

    Mon personnage préféré de la, série, même après ça mort on l'a respecte pas, on luis ouvre le corps pour prendre son cœur

  • @anonymousnation5235
    @anonymousnation52356 ай бұрын

    Their dynamic is so twisted that you can't call either of them right or wrong. They're just helpless women exploited by patriarchy and trying to fund their individual purpose within this misery and trying their best to do what's right.

  • @houseofmatrix6174
    @houseofmatrix61742 ай бұрын

    I agreee

  • @user-mx6jx5pj1c
    @user-mx6jx5pj1c7 күн бұрын

    I feel for Alicent more. - Viscerys was essentially her rapist -Rhaneyra betrayed her trust -Viscerys clearly didn't have much love for her children. All of that to say, I get why she ends up resenting R.

  • @woofawoof7616
    @woofawoof76165 сағат бұрын

    Although I appreciate useful critiques of patriarchy, I will say that it's tiring to strip women of their autonomy. Regardless of their relative power to men, these women did have choices and made them on their own accord. Being flawed is not an indication of evil, it is the state of being human. Women even during the centuries of European royalty these books borrowed from had some agency, and they utilized it. Catherine the Great and Empress Elizabeth before her were women who existed within the lens of a patriarchal system that pushed against them. Yet their choices were their own, and to claim every decision they made to be a reaction to patriarchy, rather than an expression of their own cleverness within the world they lived in, is insulting and reduces women to the archetype of 'maiden in distress.'

  • @norah_dawoodi
    @norah_dawoodi7 ай бұрын

    You can't convince me they're straight

  • @frz3rbRnotaku1
    @frz3rbRnotaku17 ай бұрын

    I liked how close these two were. I would like a rekindling but being game of thrones. probably not going to happen. Honestly Rhaenyra shouldn't have been angry about Alicent marrying her father. Because she was shocked too.

  • @martithemartian
    @martithemartian8 ай бұрын

    look how they watch eachother

  • @TheLoneWolfofTruth3654
    @TheLoneWolfofTruth36549 ай бұрын

    Alicent comes to hate Rhaenyra because she believes Rhaenyra lied to her in this scene but as we see, Rhaenyra only says she didn’t sleep with Daemon which is TRUE! Rhaenyra lied only by omission by not telling Alicent about Criston but Alicent was not lied to by Rhaenyra.

  • @peachbunnys01
    @peachbunnys015 ай бұрын

    I mean Rhaenyra owes her no truth or loyalty anyway when Alicent kept the secret of her seduction of the king her father asked her to do or their ongoing relationship

  • @godemperorofmankind3.091
    @godemperorofmankind3.0912 ай бұрын

    @@peachbunnys01 alicent had no choice. rhaenyra only lied to save herself from a potentially deadly mistake. in their world it would be catastrophic for the criston affair to get out. criston himself would get executed and rhaenyra would get disinherited. all of this is made perfectly clear so why leave it out, and mislead people?

  • @kendawyatt3219
    @kendawyatt32199 ай бұрын

    0:39 she was so jealous of her friend just because she had no interest in “Her duty” 😒😒😒 I love how she notices Alicent biting her nails. 1:26

  • @kendawyatt3219
    @kendawyatt32199 ай бұрын

    SMH they should’ve made them lovers!!! SMH missed opportunity to make it even more messy! 😂😂😂

  • @Mj_Jetson
    @Mj_Jetson10 ай бұрын

    So tragic how the game of thrones grinds up these friends and spits them out as enemies. It wrecks their lives, their families' lives and will go on and on, unstopped, to plague the next generation, and the next.

  • @FancyGamingofficial
    @FancyGamingofficial10 ай бұрын

    From Best friends to Enemies

  • @liamroberts2576
    @liamroberts257610 ай бұрын

    ~I wish that the 2 of us shall never leave our children. Like our mothers left us.~ Trust me that would be ironic

  • @jwiese100
    @jwiese10010 ай бұрын

    The fact that they were once close friends makes the war between them more tragic

  • @Mj_Jetson
    @Mj_Jetson10 ай бұрын

    Agreed! A definite improvement from the book, where Alicent is about a decade older than Rhaenyra, and there appears to an evil-step-mother-undermining-step-daughter vibe to their relationship from the start.

  • @jwiese100
    @jwiese1009 ай бұрын

    @@Mj_Jetson it's one of the few alterations from the books I like

  • @captainziggy82
    @captainziggy823 ай бұрын

    @@jwiese100same, actually humanizes her a bit

  • @alexayers9463
    @alexayers946321 сағат бұрын

    My hope is they become friends again before they die.

  • @randycrawford1132
    @randycrawford113210 ай бұрын

    Imagine if they ruled as Joint Queens while Daemon is The King Consort

  • @magnus9944
    @magnus994410 ай бұрын

    If Cersei was in Rhaenyra's place, Alicent would already be in the dungeons and make sure she'll die before she even sees the sunlight again.

  • @nicksmithnutmilk
    @nicksmithnutmilk10 ай бұрын

    No one is Cersei

  • @dragaoperdido2601
    @dragaoperdido260110 ай бұрын

    I get goosebumps from seeing the two girls interacting normally in front of the Weirwood tree, and remembering that Bran Stark is seeing everything... 170 years in the future.

  • @bitchnbabe9139
    @bitchnbabe913910 ай бұрын

    Yeah nothing says romance like your best friend marrying your dad and bearing his children 😅

  • @godemperorofmankind3.091
    @godemperorofmankind3.0912 ай бұрын

    she had no choice.

  • @tracys169
    @tracys169Күн бұрын

    @@godemperorofmankind3.091 She had a choice, but she chose to follow her father's bidding. She was sneaking around to see Viserys in private, per her father's commands and while she could've told Rhaenyra about it (since y'know, allegedly they're besties. Imo, Rhaenyra thought Alicent was her best friend but Alicent, seemed to just follow her father's command and let herself befriended by the princess--she might end up feeling friendly toward Rhaenyra, but it might not be of her own volition too). If Rhaenyra had known Alicent was meeting her father in private, I'm sure she'd have to say something or done something drastic. It might not end with Alicent being married to her father. But Alicent made the choice to follow her father's bidding and aimed for the 'highest' she could, by marrying the King.

  • @godemperorofmankind3.091
    @godemperorofmankind3.091Күн бұрын

    @@tracys169 which is to say no real choice at all. thats like saying tony had a choice whether or not to snap thanos. you can pretend like its a real "either or" all you want. but its no real either or. there is millions of children and teens all over the world, especially in conservative areas, who would choose their father's command over their best friend liking them. however much it hurts. however much their friend may end up hating them for it. the king can do as he likes and he seemed pretty set on marrying alicent. ironically as you try to give alicent undue agency, you ripped away all agency from viserys

  • @baranovam
    @baranovam10 ай бұрын

    Alicent - “you Targaryen’s have queer customs” Also Alicent - weds her son Aegon to his sister Helaena…

  • @danicadjukic9586
    @danicadjukic958610 ай бұрын

    Yes! It really shows us how much Alicent has changed as a person and tried to assimilate into the Targaryen family It's interesting but ultimately she was right at the beginning, Targaryen's are siiiickkkkk in the heeeeeeaaaddd for thinking incest is OK

  • @nicksmithnutmilk
    @nicksmithnutmilk10 ай бұрын

    Viserys wed them

  • @baranovam
    @baranovam10 ай бұрын

    @@nicksmithnutmilk in the books? Cause I know In the show there was the opportunity for Helaena to wed Jacaerys and Viserys was all for it and Alicent scoffed at the idea

  • @nicksmithnutmilk
    @nicksmithnutmilk10 ай бұрын

    @@baranovam yeah in the books

  • @brooke278
    @brooke2789 ай бұрын

    @@baranovam It's unclear who wed them, besides marrying her to Jace can easily hold her hostage

  • @DeeRio9546
    @DeeRio954610 ай бұрын

    I still can’t imagine why Alice think wasn’t murdered for attacking the first born, the heir, the princess after the king told her his word was law and final. That should have been the end of her

  • @Alejojojo6
    @Alejojojo610 ай бұрын

    She's the Queen she's actually above Rhaenyra in status and behind Viserys so.... her position left her untouched. Also it was in the interest of all to not cause fuss about it, cause acting against alicent would make both sides clash even further increasing the tensions even further and no one wanted that... it was already at the roof.

  • @jeremyhamilton2639
    @jeremyhamilton263910 ай бұрын

    Because if the king executed the queen Alicent Hightower it would have caused a huge rebellion and possibly war and it would bring more attention to rhaenyras sons being bastards which is what Visarys didn't want

  • @randycrawford1132
    @randycrawford113210 ай бұрын

    @@Alejojojo6she’s not above the Crowned Heir even if she’s Queen, since she’s basically the King’s Bitch

  • @randycrawford1132
    @randycrawford113210 ай бұрын

    @@jeremyhamilton2639Alicent should have been killed for attempted murder on tne Crowned Princess and Heir

  • @sascham-yb9ds
    @sascham-yb9ds10 ай бұрын

    @@Alejojojo6no she’s not. The heir is above her. Rhaenyra literally outranks her.

  • @bakoyma
    @bakoyma10 ай бұрын

    Otto Hightower... The trouble he caused.

  • @MajoradeMayhem
    @MajoradeMayhem9 ай бұрын

    Daemon was right on the money about that one.

  • @shadyindividual550
    @shadyindividual5509 ай бұрын

    Otto isn't the only one to blame. Viserys isn't a child. He had every power not to marry Alicent, but he was a disgusting pedo who was lusting over his teenage daughter's best friend.

  • @phousefilms
    @phousefilmsАй бұрын

    And Rhaenyra. Especially Rhaenyra. She lied to her friend, betrayed people who put their faith in her and wanted children tortured for telling the truth about her adultery and everyone ignores that part.