ALSEPfromholland

ALSEPfromholland

everthing space between 1980 and 2004

Wettlauf zum Mond PHOE 2002

Wettlauf zum Mond PHOE 2002

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  • @Purple_Poison
    @Purple_Poison4 күн бұрын

    hatten damals auch schon röntgenkameras 50:40, krass diese amis

  • @jshepard152
    @jshepard1528 күн бұрын

    Leroy Cain is famous for "Lock the doors". But he should be famous for "I consider it to be a dead issue". Ten days before Columbia reentered, he and Linda Ham shut down the engineers inside NASA who were trying to evaluate the foam strike damage to Columbia's left wing. The head-in-the-sand crowd won, and the people trying to look out for the safety of the crew lost. Linda paid for her actions and was pushed out of the shuttle program. But somehow, Leroy sailed along with his reputation intact. Nevertheless, he was part of the same broken NASA decision-making process that led to the Columbia disaster, and he was on the exact wrong side of it. Dead issue, indeed.

  • @jpburke8329
    @jpburke832921 күн бұрын

    Thanks for sharing this. Where'd you find all this footage?

  • @campbellmays9900
    @campbellmays990021 күн бұрын

    I had no idea this channel was still in operation.

  • @dr.lexwinter8604
    @dr.lexwinter860422 күн бұрын

    12:16

  • @EuroPAL625
    @EuroPAL62523 күн бұрын

    Unfortunately ,there is no sound from minute 25 on. Could you check this on your VHS and reupload, please?

  • @ALSEPfromholland
    @ALSEPfromholland21 күн бұрын

    I Reloaded this Video, it looks like it is OK now

  • @EuroPAL625
    @EuroPAL62521 күн бұрын

    @@ALSEPfromholland Thank you 😀

  • @Saltok31
    @Saltok3124 күн бұрын

    schade , nur in mono

  • @Saltok31
    @Saltok3124 күн бұрын

    schade , nur mono

  • @Saltok31
    @Saltok3124 күн бұрын

    schade , nur mono

  • @Saltok31
    @Saltok3124 күн бұрын

    grüße , warum sind die videos alle in mono ?

  • @sarahshulman2086
    @sarahshulman2086Ай бұрын

    I was only 3 years old when this happened so i didn’t know what was happening.

  • @dearmakeupdiary
    @dearmakeupdiaryАй бұрын

    A true gentleman and professional

  • @stargazer5784
    @stargazer5784Ай бұрын

    Cain was involved in the decision making process that doomed the crew. Those decision makers refused the implementation of ANY efforts to mitigate the clear and present danger that the crew faced. No hi-res imagery from military assets were allowed to be obtained in order to determine the level of damage. No rescue attempt would be made. No low energy reentry to minimize the danger. No space walk to visually inspect for damage. They didn't even tell them what was going on until minutes before the tragedy. LeRoy Cain, Linda Hamm, and others, were criminally culpable for those totally preventable deaths. 😢 Was anyone even disciplined for these egregious actions? No.

  • @Leo-DaGreek
    @Leo-DaGreekАй бұрын

    Anything but the left wing,once he herd that it should have been locked the doors

  • @malikbrown2456
    @malikbrown2456Ай бұрын

    NASA Television

  • @davidbamford1971
    @davidbamford19712 ай бұрын

    The space shuttle program was a disaster, and an almost total failure. It was experimental, and a disaster waiting to happen, and tragically, it did on two occasions. We weren't much further on with space exploration in 2011 when the shuttle program finished, than we were in 1969, and the moon landing. The shuttle launched satellites that could have been launched by other means. Apart from that it just largely went to space and conducted a few experiments, something we could do since the early 1960s.

  • @Frip36
    @Frip36Ай бұрын

    What about SpaceX?

  • @stargazer5784
    @stargazer5784Ай бұрын

    ​@@Frip36The egocentric endeavor of a buffoon.

  • @filmsforsmartpeople3587
    @filmsforsmartpeople35872 ай бұрын

    That crackling was the craft breaking apart and they knew it.

  • @PuffleFuzz
    @PuffleFuzz2 ай бұрын

    My childhood memory of all of this was disgusting. I was 5 years old and angry at Cain because “he took away my cartoons” because my parents changed from my cartoons to the coverage. Of course now that I’m 26 it’s changed. I feel awful about this. Looking back I often wonder what would’ve happened if the failure wasn’t as detrimental. Like if the damage was somewhere else, still significantly damaging the shuttle but not killing the crew.

  • @wezite1983
    @wezite19832 ай бұрын

    I know about 8 Leroys and not 1 of them has a capital R in their name.

  • @saquist
    @saquist2 ай бұрын

    I think Leroy is wrong @11:00. The reporter asked if the trajectory were changed to account for the breach could this have saved Columbia. He says no. It was already optimize for heat load. I can tell hes not a pilot...a pilot would always assume skill could save the flight. Columbia entered the atmosphere at 70° pitch on the right wing. This mildly protected the damaged left wing but not enough. Debris was already falling of the left wing. Had they known about the beach in the left wing the shuttle commander could have taken control from the computer and put Colombia into a high pich of 90° or 100°. That would divert the hypersonic blow torch past the hole...at the very least the laminar flow of plasma would become turbulent and far less focused. Additionally Columbia could have been put into a side slip after the belly and engines had taken all the heat they could. This would be tricky and potentiality loose control ( Sideslip: point Columbia's nose north as the craft travels west and angle the right wing up into the plasma stream toward space and the damaged wing pointed toward earth into the shuttles wake or shadow) Columbia couldn't hold that for long. Colombia was falling apart before the first reversal so this might be peak heating. But moving back and forth between engines angle and side slip could have gotten columbia through the second roll reversal.

  • @JB-qt3wo
    @JB-qt3wo10 күн бұрын

    Very good analysis. Columbia was an indication that NASA and the US government had become too brittle to effectively manage manned space flight. It was an early indicator of decline. Now I can barely leave the house without seeing clear indicators of such decline. Gotta do the best you can. Stay out of the cities.

  • @04mdsimps
    @04mdsimps2 ай бұрын

    He doesn’t look like a leroy. He looks more like a steve or a matt

  • @Jeremy_the_bot
    @Jeremy_the_bot2 ай бұрын

    Nah. He is a perfect Leroy.

  • @chetg2924
    @chetg29242 ай бұрын

    these guys are among the smartest people on the planet. This man here really really held it together more than any person really could be expected. I just pray for peace for all these folks. I'm still knocked back from this AND Challenger.

  • @jamesgriffin9626
    @jamesgriffin96262 ай бұрын

    Wow whales can throw far

  • @CR-vj6vv
    @CR-vj6vv3 ай бұрын

    This was probably one of the most dramatic last moments in a countdown for the entire shuttle program. Talk about being on the edge of your seat!

  • @54spatula
    @54spatula3 ай бұрын

    So would they have suffered? Did they burn up on re-entry or something? Someone correct me pls.

  • @willardpatterson706
    @willardpatterson7062 ай бұрын

    From everything I understand, they would have know something was wrong for 15 seconds or so and something very wrong for 5 seconds as the shuttle started to tumble. 3-5 seconds knowing they were going to die before going unconscious as the shuttle broke up.

  • @54spatula
    @54spatulaАй бұрын

    @@willardpatterson706how terrifying is that?! Wow.

  • @PeteDavidson-yl3ps
    @PeteDavidson-yl3ps3 ай бұрын

    Had NASA simply examined the wing, the tiles, then all crew would be alive today as that Orbiter would NOT have been flow home….I want to venture a sick guess that they all knew they would die…and so did everyone at NASA… It’s really sad that revenue over human lives was a priority….

  • @Steve-ix2un
    @Steve-ix2un3 ай бұрын

    N.A.S.A stands for N o we dont believe A piece of foam caused S ome real damage to A wing.

  • @adiedonoghue1
    @adiedonoghue13 ай бұрын

    11:44 Reports filtering through of break up from the public filming the shuttle...it over!!

  • @erselley9017
    @erselley90173 ай бұрын

    You know watching the feed you can tell the exact moment he made the connection to the foam strike when he asked whare the sensors were located. He understood they were all related somehow but couldn't figure out why and it's hard hearing him make that realization.

  • @Soundfactory24
    @Soundfactory243 ай бұрын

    Hab die Sendungen damals immer gern gesehen . Daumen hoch für s Hochladen

  • @bsg111987
    @bsg1119873 ай бұрын

    Leroy Cain demonstrates the best of NASA here. Sadly, Linda Ham was not arrested and prosecuted for the murder of these astronauts. Hopefully one day we can hold her accountable.

  • @ValleyProud916
    @ValleyProud9163 ай бұрын

    They were dead a few seconds after lift-off. They just didn't know it

  • @markwilliamson4628
    @markwilliamson46284 ай бұрын

    Something I never noticed before. At 13:13, after an off-mic conversation, Leroy Cain hangs his head and shakes it in grief/disbelief. GC Officer Bill Foster reaches out and reassuringly touches him on the elbow. In the context of the controlled professionalism of the moment, these are big gestures.

  • @deBASHmode
    @deBASHmode3 ай бұрын

    Just a point to give everyone their credit: GC Bill Foster was working his console for the entirety of this video. That was John Shannon touching Cain on the arm. Shannon was also a flight director who had moved up to the mission management team.

  • @markwilliamson4628
    @markwilliamson46283 ай бұрын

    My mistake, apologies to Messrs. Shannon and Foster!

  • @user-nx6qr1mt6f
    @user-nx6qr1mt6f4 ай бұрын

    “Mr Cain, how serious was that foam strike?” Oh it’s nothing, all of our research says it’s no big deal”

  • @SargonvonThule
    @SargonvonThule4 ай бұрын

    2016 auf dem mars, da hat sich auch der skeptiker ganz schön vertan, jetzt haben wir 2024 und über mehr als die planung und dem Traum von Elon Musk ist man noch nicht hinaus. man muss natürlich auch sehen, das die nasa nie dazu da war, den mars zu erobern sondern nur um den wettlauf zum Mond zu gewinnen, und dafür hat der ganze staat sich finanziel und mit aller technik und know how drangehängt, heute ist der Nasa viel wissen und Techniken abhanden gekommen, viele Techniken mit denen damals die Raketentriebwerke gefertigt wurde gibt es heute nicht mehr weil es die Firmen nicht mehr gibt die es geamcht hatten, und damals dazu fähig waren... ich komme ja selbst aus der technik und mich fasziniert ja immer auf wie viele verschiedene Weisen man dinge bauen kann, zb turbinenflügel, der eine presst sie aus pulver der andere giest sie, der nächste schleift sie aus dienem Block und anderere ziehen sie aus einem Kristall und jede fertigungstechnik hat ihre vor und nachteile...

  • @Purplexity-ww8nb
    @Purplexity-ww8nb5 ай бұрын

    Grace under pressure. America's best. LeRoy Cain

  • @silvereagle2061
    @silvereagle20615 ай бұрын

    When you see Cain visibly react to what was going on, he thought of what had occurred during assent even though he kept the issue in the back of his mind, but he'd hoped he was wrong.

  • @sportslife5129
    @sportslife51295 ай бұрын

    8:30 - This dialogue right here pretty much tells Leroy Cain that something bad had happened.

  • @tdurb0
    @tdurb05 ай бұрын

    Imagine being in that position, totally helpless. Shit man

  • @ShakerNL
    @ShakerNL5 ай бұрын

    Bitte

  • @kadiummusic
    @kadiummusic5 ай бұрын

    Truth is NASA puts selfish national interests first. End of.

  • @bftdr
    @bftdr5 ай бұрын

    i can't avoid comparing the professionalism of ppl in the past to what is called professionslism today. no consideration was made about leroy cain's ethnic background or what he did in his bedroom. he was execellent at what he did. he is articulate and well spoken. it is tragic how far this country is fallen in 20 yrs, just one generation. i am sad not only for the astronauts who lost their lives but also sad for the society in general that our standards have fallen so so fast.

  • @bluespace464
    @bluespace4645 ай бұрын

    Von wem ist das Lied am Anfang und gleich danach?

  • @simonscott1121
    @simonscott11216 ай бұрын

    When he closes that book........ kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZXuntc-GgcqXe7A.html

  • @-C.S.R
    @-C.S.R6 ай бұрын

    This guy had to be top notch if he was the flight Director! He was a few days away from his 39th birthday. Being that young and flight, Director of shuttle missions, Wow!🤯

  • @anthonyperkins7556
    @anthonyperkins75566 ай бұрын

    RTL-4 always covered new Astra Satellite launches, broadcast in the clear across Europe.

  • @mn5981
    @mn59817 ай бұрын

    Was erst viel später ans Licht kam, Buran war beim Start stark beschädigt worden. Ein paar Sekunden länger in der Eintrittsphase hätte sie nicht überstanden. Die Startrampe war sehr stark beim Start zerstört worde, und der Zweck der Buran war, es sollte eine extreme Waffe zum Einsatz kommen. Man dachte nämlich das Space Shuttle wäre nur zur Tarnung friedlich unterwegs, die USA wollten aber in der Zukunft damit die UDSSR angreifen. Dem Angriff wollte man vorauskommen. Damals dachte keiner, dass Russen und der Rest der Welt einmal gute Freunde werden könnten, wie bis 2020. 2023 sind wir wieder in einem kalten Krieg, viele tausend Soldaten sterben. Von Freundschaft, Vernunft und Intelligenz ist nichts mehr übrig. Die Menschheit ist noch weit davon entfernt, sich eine intelligente Spezies zu nennen.

  • @aaroncoal28
    @aaroncoal287 ай бұрын

    The truth is that they knew this was a real possibility based on the amount of the tiles that were lost during launch but they never told Columbia. There was no reason to worry them over somthing they couldn't do anything about.

  • @trevorsimpkins3142
    @trevorsimpkins31425 ай бұрын

    False. The crew was notified on flight day 7.

  • @mistermac56
    @mistermac567 ай бұрын

    Subsequently after the Columbia accident, in 2005, Leroy Cain went to KSC to become manager of Launch Integration until 2008, when he returned to JSC in 2008 to become deputy manager of the Space Shuttle program until it ended. He was also the head of the Mission Management Team during that time.

  • @jeaniechampagne8831
    @jeaniechampagne88314 ай бұрын

    I can see that he would indeed have climbed the ladder. He's an amazing leader and highly intelligent.

  • @melbatoast6403
    @melbatoast64037 ай бұрын

    When they announced there was no radar tracking a minute after it should have been in range, he knew. The man was still fighting to hold onto hope, but that was when his logical mind knew no one was coming home.

  • @jaymesnin
    @jaymesnin6 ай бұрын

    Even the temperature sensors being lost 3 to 5 seconds each in the left wing. That would of literally indicated the shell of the spaceshuttle was burning up and being breached. That was the very first moment they'd of all known there was a serious problem happening onboard. Then following tire pressure sensors lost. Which the tires are inside the aircraft hidden. One by one they were all being lost. Tragic