Sir, thanks for the video, but what if my eyes couldn’t pin point the point of contact? For example some of the bigger shot like 45 degree or more, all i see is the edge of the object ball andnot really the point of contact , do j just make mental note and move my left/right shaft even further out of the contact point for these type of cut?
@richmao926418 күн бұрын
great but what to do with straight shots
@richmao926418 күн бұрын
what about sraight shots
@eliothowell81602 ай бұрын
My issue is that some videos say contact point and some say the edge of the object ball.
@ravdizwatch15542 ай бұрын
is it using the ferrule tip or the shaft like the middle of the cue stick?
@zanebeasley62465 ай бұрын
Thank you that helps me to understand.
@GarrethandPipa9 ай бұрын
All aiming systems have the same problem. At the point you start using english you have to start dealing with serve and throw and all the environmental factors dirty cloth, humidity etc this become a matter of feel especially when generating a angle for leave. As far as the promise of any aiming system the reality is making balls is about practice. The more you practice the better you will be. All my students over the years tend to have the same problem inconsistent pre and post shot. And in most cases can't even step into the line of the shot 3 times in a row and they wonder why they aren't getting any better. Aim is one of the least important factors in shooting well.
@terrythomas44079 ай бұрын
Just watched your presentation and it makes logical sense to me. Thanks!
@paulfredericks10810 ай бұрын
Edge of shaft or ferule..is that like a pivot?
@DeeMoback10 ай бұрын
Nope ...... use the edge of ferrule THAT IS CLOSEST TO CENTER OF CUE BALL...... left side of shaft to shoot to left is a joke because you may be using LEFT OR RIGHT ENGLISH.....trust me
@blandcircle440211 ай бұрын
As someone who has been using this aiming system for awhile I’d like to point out some limitations. First of all, a shot which is completely straight warrants aiming with the center of the shaft. This much is clear, but it becomes more complicated when you consider that shots ranging between 0-45 degrees require less compensation for the size of the cue ball the less cut angle you have. As a result, you might need to aim slightly more right on a shot to the left or slightly more left on a shot to the right if the angle is pretty thick. The same is true of excessive cut angle. When shooting a ball from a large cut angle, generally larger than 70 degrees in my experience, it becomes less helpful to aim with the edge of the ferule. Eventually, you are even aiming at air, so it is helpful to utilize other aiming systems more fine tuned for this type of shot or rely on experience. This aiming system is best used when shooting a ball at a 45 degree angle, and becomes less viable for very thick and very thin shots. In addition, you still might not pot the ball if your stroke is off, so it’s very important to work on that too!
@RobertSpiller Жыл бұрын
Ed, what type of pool cue and shaft are you using?
@enzopalumbo2164 Жыл бұрын
This is just a variation or different perspective on the Ghost Ball method. In the Ghost Ball method, you find your contact point and visually draw a contact line that goes through the contact point to the pocket. Then you visually place a Ghost Ball on the contact line and you visually make an aim line that goes through the centre of the Ghost Ball. In the edge of ferrule method, you get your contact line in the same way. Then by lining up the edge of the ferrule with the contact point, you accurately and consistently get an aim line that goes through the centre of a Ghost Ball. It's the same method with a more accurate way of finding the centre of the Ghost Ball.
@blazeandcyrus Жыл бұрын
I'm going to try this out, great explanation.
@wayneburba9457 Жыл бұрын
It seems you don’t stay down after contact?
@kevinlyons1917 Жыл бұрын
right on the money !! thank you !!
@dannyuttam8693 Жыл бұрын
good explanation
@larrylhughesjr9280 Жыл бұрын
Thanks great
@randallburns4946 Жыл бұрын
Great Job!!!!!!!
@golfingmadeeasy Жыл бұрын
Anything new?
@markruscitti3897 Жыл бұрын
I am guessing you are also a Clay target shooter. You should do some videos on shooting Eddie! Perazzi or Krieghoff? I am guessing Perazzi. :)
@Thomas_Geist Жыл бұрын
What is the mm diameter of Shane's shaft? Doesn't that make a big difference? Just from watching on TV his shaft looks pretty thin.
@kevinlyons1917 Жыл бұрын
I heard SVB say in an interview, started off at 12.75mm and now about 12mm. In truth, I don't think it matters. Your brain/eye coordination gets used to whatever you have. This method works great for me. Thanks Ed
@markgargan5793 Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your effort for the video. Takes a lot to put that together. Any chance you could redo the diagrams and repost possibly? There's a lot of excellent information here but the diagrams aren't doing it justice..
@NetherVoiD Жыл бұрын
Perfectly explained.
@kenhall3851 Жыл бұрын
I studied aiming techniques for 10 years, including this. Thank you for sharing. One of the downsides of such systems is both 'steering balls" and standing up on shots. The stroke isn't a natural stroke so I'm not sure if our minds make a correction or not (We have played the game for a long time so our brains may take over - but we do begin steering the cue stick to finish the shot). For me to have a natural stroke using this technique I actually have to hit slightly inside of the edge (not due to squirt - which occurs at slower speeds, but cut induced throw, which occurs on all cut shots). Reviewing shots in the video, when you compensated for squirt you mentioned that you aimed thinner, but on slowing the shot down, it actually appears to be a normal stroke (your cue stick finishes aimed at the object ball as opposed to not). It actually appears to hit the object ball fuller on that shot. You would of course know better because camera angles can be deceiving. But would be curious to see if you find the same... than you can actually aim 1 or 2 dime widths inside of the edge of the ferrule line. It of course also works because the pockets are bigger than the balls so there is "play". As you say, it's a technique that works 80-85% of the time. But wondering if it truly works, why the need to steer the ball? An effective technique, but throws fundamentals way off.
@eugenehechler8608 Жыл бұрын
steering the shaft seems to creep into your game when you are not conscious of it happening . i prefer a natural stroke but it's so easy to want to ''steer'' or ''push'' the ball into the center of the pocket . there's a lot of little things that up to the total summation of one's game .its a game that i don't have a natural talent for ,i have managed to improve my game somewhat but i don't think its a game i can truly master. i've been playing around 20 years now and one day i wake up and can't miss ,the next day my game is out of alignment .i noticed your recent comment on this site .maybe you have a suggestion or two that will help me . thank you .
@rapanui222 Жыл бұрын
He is trying to diplomatically ask why you jump up at the end of your shots?
@trisha7437Ай бұрын
@@rapanui222I think he's asking why extra is required to make this program work - barely noticeable even to the intent viewer, because of jumping up immediately from the shot.
@markruscitti38972 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Cue Eddie! What is it? Great instruction here.
@carlkinsmanchannel2 жыл бұрын
This is something I have been chatting about for a while!!! I even made the diagrams explaining how the contact point is slightly to one side etc!!! You have explained this perfectly. This vid is great. Its how I aim. Look forward to more vids!!!
@cyrusjackson39762 жыл бұрын
The gentlemans name was Jim Mullen that's who I copied my aiming system from.
@cyrusjackson39762 жыл бұрын
The guys name was Jim Mullen I remember seeing it on the Internet 10 years ago on Utube before they took it off.
@tommykukulka78112 жыл бұрын
who is this guy?
@dsoogrim2 жыл бұрын
Seriously...u r not a good teacher....good technique...but get someone else to do the tutorial
@LYTHMOHSEN2 жыл бұрын
Its not work I tried it
@oneballeddie2 жыл бұрын
If you tried it for two weeks and it still doesn't work it is not for you. I hated it for first two weeks because it was unnatural and opposed to everything I had learned about aiming. But after two weeks it raised my game 50 Fargo points. Make sure you give it a full learning period.
@DANTHETUBEMAN2 жыл бұрын
Good video, the diagram animation cleared up some confusion I was seeing as soon as the edge of cue lined up with the object ball contact point.
@oneballeddie2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@chi-towntrucker72072 жыл бұрын
Never thought of it but it was great for me thanks a lot
@oneballeddie2 жыл бұрын
Most welcome 😊
@chriskirk71372 жыл бұрын
Hey Ed, I am having a problem with this system and hoping you can help me. When I use your system, I am over cutting every shot. Do you have any idea what I am doing wrong? Thanks
@oneballeddie2 жыл бұрын
Well if this means you do not overcut when you do not use the system, then I would say your natural ability to aim has already compensated for the undercut error in center ball aiming. This system is for correcting the error in center ball aiming - sounds like you don't need it.
@ernestmurray2792 жыл бұрын
I like the system
@oneballeddie2 жыл бұрын
Yea!
@beyondnzt48662 жыл бұрын
Hey there , this works and so does (below) trying to combine/recconcile the two... pls advise ! Thx kzread.info/dash/bejne/laeWx86niJC4dNo.html
@golfingmadeeasy2 жыл бұрын
Also, what kind of cue are you using? It's beautiful!
@oneballeddie2 жыл бұрын
Phillippi
@golfingmadeeasy2 жыл бұрын
I'm a golf instructor/coach of 26 years so I don't get to play much pool anymore. However, I still enjoy practicing when I can and play a little one pocket and straight pool. One problem shot I have is with a cut shot the length of the table with the CB and OB are VERY close together. I have trouble aiming this shot, even with edge of ferrule aiming. Any suggestions?
@oneballeddie2 жыл бұрын
Me too. I think you have to go to a "point to point" visualization of what exact point on the cue ball must contact the exact point on the object ball required to make the shot. Here edge of the ferrule no longer applies because there is no aim line sighting to be done; you are simply trying to move the cue ball into this alignment of contact points. Good luck! And let us know if you find a silver bullet.
@lagunarad2 жыл бұрын
This upped my game by at least 35%. Thank you, Sir!
@oneballeddie2 жыл бұрын
Me too. Raised my Fargo about 40 points - which is about a 35% improvement in skill level. (Fargo system defines a 100 point difference to be a 100% improvement, or a doubling of your skill level.
@golfingmadeeasy2 жыл бұрын
Would you do another video using your system on bank shots and shots using English? Thanks
@oneballeddie2 жыл бұрын
Actually I may do a bank video but I believe there are way more important factors to consider than edge of the ferrule aiming. Freddy Bentivegna's book Banking with the Beard is a great read and much faster way to raise your banking game.
@golfingmadeeasy2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say hi and let you know that I got back on a pool table this afternoon after about 1 1/2 years. I'm a golf coach/instructor and just didn't have the time. Anyway, after trying a few shots, I remembered the edge of the ferrule system. WOW! It still works - even for bank shots and shots with English. Yes, it took a few shots to tell myself to use the edge of the ferrule and to pick out the contact point. But, when I did, I made the shot. Thank you! For an old man who spends much more time on the golf course than the pool table, it's still nice to make some shots when I do go.
@CS-bh4ur3 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Thank you! This helped me out sooo much.
@oneballeddie2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@james33393 жыл бұрын
Lmao at the Asian insert with the Godzilla movie Asian to English lips I like the video and advice, but like lingerie on wedding night, Asian girl not necessary 🤪 I like the concept. You blew through the English portion of this video. How did your aiming change while using the system? You said you changed the cut, but you didn’t tie it to the system. Did you change the aim point with the edge of shaft or something else? I do like the advice. I just got lost a bit at the English portion as you didn’t fully explain.
@oneballeddie2 жыл бұрын
Yes having these fembots explain the diagrams in a booming voice is not what I had in mind. Suggest you hit mute when they come on. But the explanation should be straightforward: when cutting to the left aim the left edge of your ferrule at the contact point; right edge when cutting right.
@6mdm3 жыл бұрын
Aiming inside edge of ferrule can cause an undercut. One half tip of backhand english will make these shots much more accurate. He even fades with outside as you see his body english steering. Go spot to spot and use this and you will undercut it by a diamond. Our eye sees this and we steer outside english and say “seee! It works!! “ Photography shows the player isn’t aiming where they think. That said, its close enough for our eyes to make subconscious adjustments. Overall... this is a good intro to the EOF method.
@trisha7437Ай бұрын
I noticed that pull too
@juanball54803 жыл бұрын
This system is very effective . I tried this already . Angles from 77.5 degree to 45 degree are very easy ,,
@oneballeddie2 жыл бұрын
I would say angles from 0 to 45 are very reliable. Note that object ball on spot and cue ball on head spot is a 45 degree cut. This system alone will undercut that shot because that sight line produces a slightly undercut contact point. You need an extra adjustment like touch of inside or just aim with more cut that you see.
@brianb03263 жыл бұрын
This ABSOLUTELY does not work for me !! Ive tried and tried. Our leagues and local tournaments are only on bar boxes , valleys and shelti's. I started using a make shift shish kabob aiming sys and now i cant miss , but making balls does not translate into wins. Speed and cue ball shapes is the common denominator for wins !! Forever working on it. Thanks for the Vid !!
@oneballeddie2 жыл бұрын
Did you try a full two week experiment? I does not work for most people when they first try it. It is unclear why some people absolutely do not find it helpful because it is essentially geometry. I have thought it is just the mind's inability to accept the unnatural feel (at first) or inability to undo learned habits. Keep trying! And report back after two weeks with what is going wrong.
@tehhan82425 ай бұрын
So has it worked?
@hardtimesbbq52653 жыл бұрын
I will never forget this video because of the scary robot girls! haha! Great video, I've been using touch of inside for 2 years now and I'm experimenting with this and it seems it pretty much works a lot of the same way. The real advantage of touch of inside is there are only 2 aiming points on the object ball, either the center or the edge of the object ball is your target, so touch of inside does work darn good. The disadvantage of touch of inside in my opinion is lots of variation based on stroke speed, etc, but also touch of inside does not allow you to really move the cue around the table with english b/c it's all inside english.
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GREAT AND THANKS!
one ball, Eddie, love it,pure gold.
Sir, thanks for the video, but what if my eyes couldn’t pin point the point of contact? For example some of the bigger shot like 45 degree or more, all i see is the edge of the object ball andnot really the point of contact , do j just make mental note and move my left/right shaft even further out of the contact point for these type of cut?
great but what to do with straight shots
what about sraight shots
My issue is that some videos say contact point and some say the edge of the object ball.
is it using the ferrule tip or the shaft like the middle of the cue stick?
Thank you that helps me to understand.
All aiming systems have the same problem. At the point you start using english you have to start dealing with serve and throw and all the environmental factors dirty cloth, humidity etc this become a matter of feel especially when generating a angle for leave. As far as the promise of any aiming system the reality is making balls is about practice. The more you practice the better you will be. All my students over the years tend to have the same problem inconsistent pre and post shot. And in most cases can't even step into the line of the shot 3 times in a row and they wonder why they aren't getting any better. Aim is one of the least important factors in shooting well.
Just watched your presentation and it makes logical sense to me. Thanks!
Edge of shaft or ferule..is that like a pivot?
Nope ...... use the edge of ferrule THAT IS CLOSEST TO CENTER OF CUE BALL...... left side of shaft to shoot to left is a joke because you may be using LEFT OR RIGHT ENGLISH.....trust me
As someone who has been using this aiming system for awhile I’d like to point out some limitations. First of all, a shot which is completely straight warrants aiming with the center of the shaft. This much is clear, but it becomes more complicated when you consider that shots ranging between 0-45 degrees require less compensation for the size of the cue ball the less cut angle you have. As a result, you might need to aim slightly more right on a shot to the left or slightly more left on a shot to the right if the angle is pretty thick. The same is true of excessive cut angle. When shooting a ball from a large cut angle, generally larger than 70 degrees in my experience, it becomes less helpful to aim with the edge of the ferule. Eventually, you are even aiming at air, so it is helpful to utilize other aiming systems more fine tuned for this type of shot or rely on experience. This aiming system is best used when shooting a ball at a 45 degree angle, and becomes less viable for very thick and very thin shots. In addition, you still might not pot the ball if your stroke is off, so it’s very important to work on that too!
Ed, what type of pool cue and shaft are you using?
This is just a variation or different perspective on the Ghost Ball method. In the Ghost Ball method, you find your contact point and visually draw a contact line that goes through the contact point to the pocket. Then you visually place a Ghost Ball on the contact line and you visually make an aim line that goes through the centre of the Ghost Ball. In the edge of ferrule method, you get your contact line in the same way. Then by lining up the edge of the ferrule with the contact point, you accurately and consistently get an aim line that goes through the centre of a Ghost Ball. It's the same method with a more accurate way of finding the centre of the Ghost Ball.
I'm going to try this out, great explanation.
It seems you don’t stay down after contact?
right on the money !! thank you !!
good explanation
Thanks great
Great Job!!!!!!!
Anything new?
I am guessing you are also a Clay target shooter. You should do some videos on shooting Eddie! Perazzi or Krieghoff? I am guessing Perazzi. :)
What is the mm diameter of Shane's shaft? Doesn't that make a big difference? Just from watching on TV his shaft looks pretty thin.
I heard SVB say in an interview, started off at 12.75mm and now about 12mm. In truth, I don't think it matters. Your brain/eye coordination gets used to whatever you have. This method works great for me. Thanks Ed
Really appreciate your effort for the video. Takes a lot to put that together. Any chance you could redo the diagrams and repost possibly? There's a lot of excellent information here but the diagrams aren't doing it justice..
Perfectly explained.
I studied aiming techniques for 10 years, including this. Thank you for sharing. One of the downsides of such systems is both 'steering balls" and standing up on shots. The stroke isn't a natural stroke so I'm not sure if our minds make a correction or not (We have played the game for a long time so our brains may take over - but we do begin steering the cue stick to finish the shot). For me to have a natural stroke using this technique I actually have to hit slightly inside of the edge (not due to squirt - which occurs at slower speeds, but cut induced throw, which occurs on all cut shots). Reviewing shots in the video, when you compensated for squirt you mentioned that you aimed thinner, but on slowing the shot down, it actually appears to be a normal stroke (your cue stick finishes aimed at the object ball as opposed to not). It actually appears to hit the object ball fuller on that shot. You would of course know better because camera angles can be deceiving. But would be curious to see if you find the same... than you can actually aim 1 or 2 dime widths inside of the edge of the ferrule line. It of course also works because the pockets are bigger than the balls so there is "play". As you say, it's a technique that works 80-85% of the time. But wondering if it truly works, why the need to steer the ball? An effective technique, but throws fundamentals way off.
steering the shaft seems to creep into your game when you are not conscious of it happening . i prefer a natural stroke but it's so easy to want to ''steer'' or ''push'' the ball into the center of the pocket . there's a lot of little things that up to the total summation of one's game .its a game that i don't have a natural talent for ,i have managed to improve my game somewhat but i don't think its a game i can truly master. i've been playing around 20 years now and one day i wake up and can't miss ,the next day my game is out of alignment .i noticed your recent comment on this site .maybe you have a suggestion or two that will help me . thank you .
He is trying to diplomatically ask why you jump up at the end of your shots?
@@rapanui222I think he's asking why extra is required to make this program work - barely noticeable even to the intent viewer, because of jumping up immediately from the shot.
Beautiful Cue Eddie! What is it? Great instruction here.
This is something I have been chatting about for a while!!! I even made the diagrams explaining how the contact point is slightly to one side etc!!! You have explained this perfectly. This vid is great. Its how I aim. Look forward to more vids!!!
The gentlemans name was Jim Mullen that's who I copied my aiming system from.
The guys name was Jim Mullen I remember seeing it on the Internet 10 years ago on Utube before they took it off.
who is this guy?
Seriously...u r not a good teacher....good technique...but get someone else to do the tutorial
Its not work I tried it
If you tried it for two weeks and it still doesn't work it is not for you. I hated it for first two weeks because it was unnatural and opposed to everything I had learned about aiming. But after two weeks it raised my game 50 Fargo points. Make sure you give it a full learning period.
Good video, the diagram animation cleared up some confusion I was seeing as soon as the edge of cue lined up with the object ball contact point.
Glad it helped!
Never thought of it but it was great for me thanks a lot
Most welcome 😊
Hey Ed, I am having a problem with this system and hoping you can help me. When I use your system, I am over cutting every shot. Do you have any idea what I am doing wrong? Thanks
Well if this means you do not overcut when you do not use the system, then I would say your natural ability to aim has already compensated for the undercut error in center ball aiming. This system is for correcting the error in center ball aiming - sounds like you don't need it.
I like the system
Yea!
Hey there , this works and so does (below) trying to combine/recconcile the two... pls advise ! Thx kzread.info/dash/bejne/laeWx86niJC4dNo.html
Also, what kind of cue are you using? It's beautiful!
Phillippi
I'm a golf instructor/coach of 26 years so I don't get to play much pool anymore. However, I still enjoy practicing when I can and play a little one pocket and straight pool. One problem shot I have is with a cut shot the length of the table with the CB and OB are VERY close together. I have trouble aiming this shot, even with edge of ferrule aiming. Any suggestions?
Me too. I think you have to go to a "point to point" visualization of what exact point on the cue ball must contact the exact point on the object ball required to make the shot. Here edge of the ferrule no longer applies because there is no aim line sighting to be done; you are simply trying to move the cue ball into this alignment of contact points. Good luck! And let us know if you find a silver bullet.
This upped my game by at least 35%. Thank you, Sir!
Me too. Raised my Fargo about 40 points - which is about a 35% improvement in skill level. (Fargo system defines a 100 point difference to be a 100% improvement, or a doubling of your skill level.
Would you do another video using your system on bank shots and shots using English? Thanks
Actually I may do a bank video but I believe there are way more important factors to consider than edge of the ferrule aiming. Freddy Bentivegna's book Banking with the Beard is a great read and much faster way to raise your banking game.
Just wanted to say hi and let you know that I got back on a pool table this afternoon after about 1 1/2 years. I'm a golf coach/instructor and just didn't have the time. Anyway, after trying a few shots, I remembered the edge of the ferrule system. WOW! It still works - even for bank shots and shots with English. Yes, it took a few shots to tell myself to use the edge of the ferrule and to pick out the contact point. But, when I did, I made the shot. Thank you! For an old man who spends much more time on the golf course than the pool table, it's still nice to make some shots when I do go.
Great video!!! Thank you! This helped me out sooo much.
Glad it helped!
Lmao at the Asian insert with the Godzilla movie Asian to English lips I like the video and advice, but like lingerie on wedding night, Asian girl not necessary 🤪 I like the concept. You blew through the English portion of this video. How did your aiming change while using the system? You said you changed the cut, but you didn’t tie it to the system. Did you change the aim point with the edge of shaft or something else? I do like the advice. I just got lost a bit at the English portion as you didn’t fully explain.
Yes having these fembots explain the diagrams in a booming voice is not what I had in mind. Suggest you hit mute when they come on. But the explanation should be straightforward: when cutting to the left aim the left edge of your ferrule at the contact point; right edge when cutting right.
Aiming inside edge of ferrule can cause an undercut. One half tip of backhand english will make these shots much more accurate. He even fades with outside as you see his body english steering. Go spot to spot and use this and you will undercut it by a diamond. Our eye sees this and we steer outside english and say “seee! It works!! “ Photography shows the player isn’t aiming where they think. That said, its close enough for our eyes to make subconscious adjustments. Overall... this is a good intro to the EOF method.
I noticed that pull too
This system is very effective . I tried this already . Angles from 77.5 degree to 45 degree are very easy ,,
I would say angles from 0 to 45 are very reliable. Note that object ball on spot and cue ball on head spot is a 45 degree cut. This system alone will undercut that shot because that sight line produces a slightly undercut contact point. You need an extra adjustment like touch of inside or just aim with more cut that you see.
This ABSOLUTELY does not work for me !! Ive tried and tried. Our leagues and local tournaments are only on bar boxes , valleys and shelti's. I started using a make shift shish kabob aiming sys and now i cant miss , but making balls does not translate into wins. Speed and cue ball shapes is the common denominator for wins !! Forever working on it. Thanks for the Vid !!
Did you try a full two week experiment? I does not work for most people when they first try it. It is unclear why some people absolutely do not find it helpful because it is essentially geometry. I have thought it is just the mind's inability to accept the unnatural feel (at first) or inability to undo learned habits. Keep trying! And report back after two weeks with what is going wrong.
So has it worked?
I will never forget this video because of the scary robot girls! haha! Great video, I've been using touch of inside for 2 years now and I'm experimenting with this and it seems it pretty much works a lot of the same way. The real advantage of touch of inside is there are only 2 aiming points on the object ball, either the center or the edge of the object ball is your target, so touch of inside does work darn good. The disadvantage of touch of inside in my opinion is lots of variation based on stroke speed, etc, but also touch of inside does not allow you to really move the cue around the table with english b/c it's all inside english.