So I assume I just plug my wireless unit into the output of the backbeat. Correct???
@GaryOnBass2 күн бұрын
Yes that's right! Shouldn't be an issue as its true bypass so shouldn’t effect your sound at all!
@MarcusKopp2 күн бұрын
Thanks for the demonstration. Do you have any experience of running both bass and kick drum mixed into it? I’m thinking about sending kick drum and bass from the mixer on a monitor channel, directly to the backbeat. Do you think it would work?
@GaryOnBass2 күн бұрын
Yes, that's exactly what I have! The bass is run directly from the bass and the kick comes in through the AUX channel. It allows me to be able to mix the on the back beat. You really feel when your locked in with the kick! Its great feedback live!
@TheZenithphoenix21 күн бұрын
Fantastic review thank you so much for exploring all the details so well. And then the last question I had was about the bassboard and then you talked about that too! I’m going to IEM’s for the first time in 30 years of playing and looking for that extra bass feel.
@GaryOnBass21 күн бұрын
I'm glad I was able to help! This or the bassboard are great options if you want more of that live feel without the volume! You'll get more power out of the bassboard, but it cuts down your movement, so it's your preference!
@Wyatt.D.Loiselle22 күн бұрын
My band has been using the Xvive U4 wireless systems (we use two of the double packs, me[bass] + vocalist, both guitarists on one pair) and our drummer goes wired because he's right next to the rack. We are having good connections everywhere we've played so far. We usually all stay pretty close to the transmitters though, just because our stages are small. I find after about 15-30ft depending on the space and how many people are there, they start to drop out, but come right back when you move back closer to the rack. Next year we are thinking about upgrading our system to the Sennheiser XS IEM system, the four guys out front (me[bass], vox, guitar x 2) would all use those, as our drummer is content being wired in using XLR + a Behringer belt pack/w/ the volume adjustment. We are also considering wireless guitars as well but I think IEMs are much more important. Plus most guitar wireless systems can't handle my bass frequencies... I use a Dingwall tuned to E0 (full octave below a standard 4 string) so the transmitters won't really transmit that signal. (I don't mind being wired to my board in anyways). Side note: we all use Shure 215s for the IEMs.
@GaryOnBass21 күн бұрын
That's great to know about the Xvive! Really good to hear first hand experience! The Shure 215s are a great choice too! Have you thought about just going wired? Seems to make sense if you aren't going wireless for your bass!
@Wyatt.D.Loiselle18 күн бұрын
@@GaryOnBass I havent thought about going wired because im not a fan of having more wires than need to be there. Plus we are going to be going full wireless except my bass soon anyways with the senhiseier*
@GaryOnBass17 күн бұрын
@Wyatt.D.Loiselle that makes sense! I get it if you're going full Sennheiser! But if you're still running a cable, it is only slightly heavier having both your guitar cable and headphone cable combined in the mini snake, and it saves you a good £800!
@Wyatt.D.Loiselle15 күн бұрын
@@GaryOnBass That is very true. For me though, its more for streamlining and not exactly texture, but they way that cable feels pulling down constently on you when you go wired, feels really gross to me persoanlly.
@blairbluesandothernews28 күн бұрын
Really helpful video, just ordered a Beringher P2. Thank you Gary.
@GaryOnBass28 күн бұрын
They are really solid boxes and sit great on a pedal board! I've always got one in the bag just in case!
@ProfessorOnBass28 күн бұрын
I just wondered what your views are on the best ear tips to maximise isolation and bass response. I got std ear tips on some KZ IEM's but wondered if foam would be better. I realise custom moulds would probably be superior, but not quite ready to commit to that yet.
@GaryOnBass28 күн бұрын
The KZ are great starter IEMs. You can get more isolation and bass response with customs, but that doesn't mean the KZs can't be improved! You want a tight fit with a dense foam tip to optimise low end and isolation. I recommend the Comply 500 series. They make for a great fit, and you'll get far more rejection, BUT the extra density in the foam does mean that they tear more easily, so they don't last quite as long as cheap foam tips!
@GaryOnBass28 күн бұрын
Are you going to go wired or ignore me and go wireless? I'd love to know!
@LessTalkMoreDelicious29 күн бұрын
You think DZR12 (no sub) can replace/pass for a Hi-Fi 12” system for home-use? Clarity and detail wise. Wondering if they could be a nice, cheaper alternative to expensive HiFi speakers like JBL L100, Klipsch Forte/Cornwall, etc. Any hiss, noise, hum while turned On at idle w/ no music playing? Edit: Ah, I see you have studio monitors in the back! I use HS8 for music-listening (but wanna upgrade to 12” speakers)… wondering if the DZR are as clear, clean, flat, accurate, neutral sounding as your studio monitors.
@GaryOnBass29 күн бұрын
There is a massive amount of clarity in these speakers and I haven't noticed any hiss or hum, even at very high volumes. If I were to use a PA speaker for hi-fi I think this would be my pick, they are probably the most neutral spunding PA speaker out there! But they are really difficult to compare to my Adam audio monitors in the back, which actually make great hi-fi speakers! The reason for this is that they are built to be VERY loud! Your talking about 10x the output of some of those hi-fi speakers you mentioned! I'm not sure how they would sound at lower volumes as you will never be pushing the speakers to the point where they are designed to be used. So overall, I'm not sure! They would probably be my pick if I were to do that, but I'm not sure how comparable they would be to a speaker which is specifically made for that purpose! I'm sure they would sound great though and you would never have issues about not having enough volume! Haha
@LessTalkMoreDelicious28 күн бұрын
@@GaryOnBass Thanks for the detailed reply! Nice to hear they don't have any hiss/hum/noise! I may have to give them a try, hehe (I could never afford super expensive HiFi speakers nor amps anyways) And volume/power never hurts... esp when it's needed for parties, haha. Just as long as the sound quality is clear, neutral and nice. :D
@GaryOnBass28 күн бұрын
@LessTalkMoreDelicious they would definitely be great for parties! I think they could definitely work! They also do a passive version, the CZR12 but I would most likely get the active ones! Keep me updated on how they do! I would be really interested to hear your experience!
@stevebadachmusicАй бұрын
I picked up a wireless unit from a brand called Anleon from Amazon. It was only around $150, and it's worked nearly perfectly for over a year now (around 70 gigs). It's certainly not the greatest, and is a bit noisy, but for playing bar shows it totally does the job. It can also be run in stereo, which is a nice treat. I have a little passive bodypack like yours, as a backup too, but I've only had to use it once.
@GaryOnBassАй бұрын
Yeah, I don't think that tech is too complicated to get right in all reality! But as a bass player/vocalist, I find the frequency range a little limiting! If you can live with it, though, UHF is a great and solid option compared to the wifi units!
@revivalsdare1489Ай бұрын
Hello, how do you use Yamaha Dzr 10 with a subs or just one sub. Do you use hpf filter on Dzr 10 and how much hpf frequency do you use... Thanks and Best Regards
@GaryOnBassАй бұрын
It depends on the room, I would say about 80% of the time it's just the one sub (most venues are quite small here) and then with two subs at marquees and larger venues. Again the hpf depends on how much I need to put through the sub, it is generally either 80hz or 120hz.
@revivalsdare1489Ай бұрын
Hello, so you set this settings on Dzr 10. You engage for instance hpf at 80hz on Dzr 10 if it's one or two subs. Thanks for your kindness and Best Regards
@GaryOnBassАй бұрын
It really depends on the room! I would always stay above 80hz, though, and that is generally my go-to crossover point for these. If they need a bit more help, I would lift the crossover to take some weight off the tops! I find they can handle 80hz with no sweat!
@revivalsdare1489Ай бұрын
I get... So you engage the hpf on Dzr not on subs. Thanks
@JackOwensMusicАй бұрын
What about the 12” DZRs? What about these bad boys in comparison to the new RCF ART 932s? That’s something I’d be interested to see😎
@GaryOnBassАй бұрын
If the 12” DZR are anything like these then I can fully support them! The NX932s look and I imagine sound great too! Its always just the lack our input/outputs and DSP which lets RCF down a bit!
@epposhАй бұрын
how would you rate the DZR10 vs. Seeburg Acoustic or KS Audio 10" active speakers, if you've had the pleasure of using/hearing any of their comparable offerings? in other words, is their sound quality worth the extra cost?
@GaryOnBassАй бұрын
Unfortunately, I haven't heard about the Seeburg or KS 10" boxes or anything they do as an active unit, so I can't add anything here! The Yamaha speakers are great, though. They were designed by Nexo (a comparable pro company) and come with an outstanding Yamaha warranty-that's what tipped me into buying them!
@marcusvinaudАй бұрын
I have 2 Yamaha DZR10-D and I’m looking for a good sub to use with them. Any sugestion?
@GaryOnBassАй бұрын
I'm using RCF 705-II with mine, which is excellent and has more than enough bass for our usage. They are super lightweight and compact, but they project backwards quite a bit and have no Dante; if you're using that, then I guess the logical choice is the 12” or 15” Yamaha subs. These are great and super loud for their size, but they are pretty heavy; I think the 12” sub is 6kg heavier than the 15” RCF sub I use! If that isn't an issue, I would lean towards the Yamaha! I kind of wish I had got them now, in retrospect, but my back is thanking me!
@GaryOnBassАй бұрын
Why did you start learning bass guitar? Let me know below! ⬇
@GaryOnBassАй бұрын
Do you struggle to hear your bass? I know this was a huge help while my ear drum was ruptured!
@GaryOnBassАй бұрын
Do you think headphones have a place out of the studio and on the stage? Let me know below!
@GaryOnBassАй бұрын
Would you think about swapping your 12" or 15" tops for 10" tops? Let me know below!
@DJBennyswiftАй бұрын
I would, those Yamaha dzr10’s have more power than my 15” Mackie thumps, so I’m going to change them. I also thought of the 12” dzr, but thought of the Mackie V-Class 12” as well. But I need a compact system the has power.
@giladshaked13127 күн бұрын
Dzr 12 the best in class with jbl 812p & etx 12
@giladshaked13127 күн бұрын
@@DJBennyswift take dzr 12 with two subs 15 - nuq 15 turbo sound & rcf 905 mk3 - this setup can take 150 pepole very easy .
@giancarlohernandez196726 күн бұрын
@@DJBennyswift Try the Mackie DLM12 i have them for 8 years already and no complain what so ever and they are small, crazy powerful and light weight they are a little bit more expansive then the srm212 V class (about $999) but it's worth those extra $$$.
@DJBennyswift25 күн бұрын
@@giancarlohernandez1967I never knew they existed, I was looking at it but still in decision mode, really nice though thanks!
@xkurtknoxАй бұрын
10 inch box for foh?! what are you mixing? a micky mouse band?!
@GaryOnBassАй бұрын
Haha, I worried about the same thing! We are a three to six-piece wedding band that runs everything directly through the PA, and we do 90 weddings a year, ranging from 100 to 300 people. These really have been great! I have only seen the limiter twice, and we play with one of the loudest drummers I know! You're not running festivals with these playing to thousands, but I would be hiring a crew and a PA I wouldn't want to carry myself for that! If you're a gigging musician, they will do the job and surprise you! I ran EV 15" tops and 18" subs before these, which can't touch this rig in terms of volume or sound quality!
@xkurtknoxАй бұрын
@@GaryOnBass sounds nice, have you looked into the seeburg k20 dp? double 10 inch in a small form factor. they sound superb. i use the passive version.
@GaryOnBassАй бұрын
Yeah, the Seaburg stuff has always been great! One of my friends had a big passive set, which I loved, but I couldn't handle the weight now! I like the look of their array systems, but they are rare to hear in the UK! These Yamahas are designed by NEXO, and you can see the pro audio background coming into play!
@pooleywooleyАй бұрын
You might be surprised at just how loud and also how clear these things are when HPF over a sub. I also use Yamaha DSR115, RCF 932 and RCF NX945 and my DZR 10's can keep up with any of them if they are used over a decent sub!
@GaryOnBassАй бұрын
@pooleywooley I couldn't agree more!
@chinmeyswayАй бұрын
bummer that midrange dip and that they don’t extend to 40 hz even.
@GaryOnBassАй бұрын
I have never struggled to get enough mids from these boxes! The clarity is something else that may explain why this isn't an issue. As for the low end, we have to be realistic in that they are 10" boxes. They are made to be coupled with a sub, which means they are going to be high-passed at the least 80hz. I think the 12" and 15" would deliver more than enough if you are happy to carry them and don't want to run a sub.
@DJBennyswiftАй бұрын
I’m a DJ and a friend of mine bought these 10” ones and tells me that I need to get these due to the power and how clear they sound. I have the Mackie Thumps 215xt with the 15” subwoofer and they have a nice sound, but I have to upgrade due to needing something compact and also powerful. I wanted to get the Rcf, qsc, or the Mackie srm V-Class. But my friend that I need these Yamaha dzr 10’s. So now I’m searching for more info about them and reviews. Thank you for this video.
@GaryOnBassАй бұрын
Yeah, I run the DJ through these between sets, and I can totally see why DJs would love them! They're super compact and loud, and like your friend said, the clarity at high volumes is just mad, too! I would definitely grab these over the Mackies or QSC (although I love their desks, I find the speakers hard on the ears). The RCF NX speakers look great, but I haven't managed to hear any yet!
@DJBennyswiftАй бұрын
I’m really looking forward to upgrade to these! The price point is pretty up there, but I need to make the move. Also, the reason I’m looking into the 10” is due to my vehicle size, I have a 2020 Kia Soul which is limited in space so these will fit perfectly in my car, and I was thinking on getting two QSC 12” subwoofers. I know it’s two different brands but I’m not familiar with the Yamaha subwoofers, plus I like how the design of the QSC 12” sub is narrow. Do you have a suggestion that I may not know of?
@GaryOnBassАй бұрын
@DJBennyswift you wont be disappointed! These are great! The Yamaha subs are awesome but they are quite heavy! I use the RCF 705 which are super light and quite compact! I've fit 2 subs and 2 tops in a Nissan Juke! Was a bit of a squeeze but they went in!
@DJBennyswiftАй бұрын
@@GaryOnBass that sounds great, I also have my other gear and facade which playing Tetris as a kid helped me fit my 15” mains, 15” sub, stands, controller, cable bags in the car with a tight squeeze. I’m going to look into that Rcf subwoofer to get dimensions, watts, SPL, and price point.
@GaryOnBassАй бұрын
Haha I know the feeling, although my van now feels empty with these sitting in the back! I can fully recommend the RCF subs too! Thanks for watching!
@wethemeeple2 ай бұрын
At £55 these seem great for studio use on a budget. Or would you recommend an alternative around that price point?
@GaryOnBass2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think these are a great choice, but they may not be as flat as I would like for studio headphones. The Beyer Dynamic DT770 is better for this, but for the price, they are excellent! The Vik Firths do have far less bleed than the Beyers, though!
@Lnormile2 ай бұрын
Your spine'll be fine
@GaryOnBass2 ай бұрын
Let's hope so! It’s basically a free back massage all gig! Haha
@MozerinMozers3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this review! Just ordered one. Even with all the cons, it still almost sounds too good to be true!
@GaryOnBass2 ай бұрын
Thanks! I hope you enjoy the Backbeat as much as I do! If I am honest, the cons are more annoyances than anything! As long as you keep it charged and you find a good strap for it then it makes a big difference to your IEM mix!
@era4ser7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the review, and pointing out the pros/cons. I have the 1st version of the BackBeat.. The reason I would update to the G2 is because of the weight... but after the cons you mention, I'll stay with what I have. I only used my BackBeat for the drum kick... then I use a bassboard to feel my bass instead of the BackBeat. It's difficult to explain how I set things up to hear my bass and personal mix... and at the same time... feel the kick, and feel my bass. Basically I split signals (bass on ch1 split to FOH, and FOH personal mix on ch2 split to BackBeat wirelessly). To hear both bass and FOH personal mix... My personal mixer output both channels to my senn ew g4 IEM wireless system. Someone let me try a branded bassboard... like the ones you mentioned. They are expensive like you said, but I liked it so much... I made my own. I've experimented with different transducers at different prices, and it's evolved over the past 5-6 years... but I finally nailed the perfect combo. Instead of paying $1k for a branded bassboard, you can DIY it for around $350 including the subamp. I love my bassboard more than my BackBeat... so most of the time, I leave the BackBeat at home. One less thing to set up at a gig. Anyway... thanks for the helpful vid. Saved me $400... for now.
@GaryOnBass7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment; I'm glad it saved you some money until after Christmas, at least! You don't notice the weight of the G2 at all! I haven't used the G1, but I have heard that was a point of contention! It's interesting to hear someone using both a backbeat and a bassboard! I don't know if I like the idea of being stuck in one place! But your DIY bassboard is something which I have definitely thought about a few times! Thanks for watching!
@era4ser7 ай бұрын
@@GaryOnBass Since going ampless with IEM's nearly a decade ago... I've been on a quest... evolving my silent stage rig to feel like playing with a backline. It's evolved into a killer setup... easy setup/teardown, and transport. The kick of the drums on my back BackBeat, sync'd with the bassboard is emersion bliss. The bands personal mix is controlled in a mobile app individually. I use an iPad on my silent stage rig to control my mix. I mute the bass with the sliders on the app so I can only feel the kick... but I can easily slide my bass into the mix, and feel it on my BackBeat if I move off the Bassboard. Not only do I have the ew g4 iem, I also use an ew-d cl1 for my bass... so I'm fully wireless on iem's and bass. So I'm not really stuck in one place. My silent rig is a game changer... I would show you, but no DM's on KZread.
@GaryOnBass7 ай бұрын
Sounds absolutely amazing! I have been running IEMs for about 15 years but with a large amp for 7 of those years! The Backbeat makes a huge difference to my mix that's for sure! Maybe the Bassboard will be next on the list, I have more than enough sub-mixes on my desk! Haha
@TheZenithphoenix21 күн бұрын
Wow what an epic rig!!! What size baseboard did you go with and are you happy with the size? Did you order direct from the company in Germany?
@era4ser21 күн бұрын
@@TheZenithphoenix I made a simple DIY version with 2 Dayton Audio BST-1 Bass Shakers mounted on 24”x24” ply. Funny that you just seen this post. I’m in the process of building my next board with same parts and design of the EICH Bassboard’s from Germany. Next one will be 35”x24”, and will look exactly like the EICH, and function the same where the top half will be isolated internally from the bottom board.
@jools40018 ай бұрын
I also have a G2 and it helps to know that you have the same battery issues, but I don't think it's caused by the switch being knocked on. I haven't gigged mine yet but left it on my strap in my practise room. I unplugged everything from it and definitely switched it off but the battery went flat in about a day and a half. I think that something is drawing current and flattening the battery even when it's off. Whatever is causing the flat battery, still means you have to charge it every time you use it. Mine isn't as critical. I use a Helix Stomp that I use the pitch shifter on to go to Eb standard and D standard, so the only signal I'm sending to the BackBeat is my bass post-Helix, and I'm using my in-ears straight from my IEM pack as I've always done, so if the battery goes flat mid-gig I just get the usual IEM mix.
@GaryOnBass8 ай бұрын
Yes, I'm sure my problem is due to the ease of pushing the button to turn it on! I have accidentally knocked it on from time to time. Mine isn't too critical. I remember my settings quite well now, but it is still annoying! I used my IEM pack for a while, but I have found that the mix straight through the BackBeat is excellent and produces a clean mix.
@GaryOnBass8 ай бұрын
If you have any questions about the BackBeat G2 drop them in the comments and I'll be sure to reply! 🤟
@UKEtalTIfiz6 ай бұрын
have you tried/heard of different "Strap-Plesureboards"?
@GaryOnBass6 ай бұрын
No, I haven't seen any other strap-based systems! I did see a backpack-type bass shaker, but I don't believe it is available anymore, and I'm not sure how comfortable it would be with a bass on!
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So I assume I just plug my wireless unit into the output of the backbeat. Correct???
Yes that's right! Shouldn't be an issue as its true bypass so shouldn’t effect your sound at all!
Thanks for the demonstration. Do you have any experience of running both bass and kick drum mixed into it? I’m thinking about sending kick drum and bass from the mixer on a monitor channel, directly to the backbeat. Do you think it would work?
Yes, that's exactly what I have! The bass is run directly from the bass and the kick comes in through the AUX channel. It allows me to be able to mix the on the back beat. You really feel when your locked in with the kick! Its great feedback live!
Fantastic review thank you so much for exploring all the details so well. And then the last question I had was about the bassboard and then you talked about that too! I’m going to IEM’s for the first time in 30 years of playing and looking for that extra bass feel.
I'm glad I was able to help! This or the bassboard are great options if you want more of that live feel without the volume! You'll get more power out of the bassboard, but it cuts down your movement, so it's your preference!
My band has been using the Xvive U4 wireless systems (we use two of the double packs, me[bass] + vocalist, both guitarists on one pair) and our drummer goes wired because he's right next to the rack. We are having good connections everywhere we've played so far. We usually all stay pretty close to the transmitters though, just because our stages are small. I find after about 15-30ft depending on the space and how many people are there, they start to drop out, but come right back when you move back closer to the rack. Next year we are thinking about upgrading our system to the Sennheiser XS IEM system, the four guys out front (me[bass], vox, guitar x 2) would all use those, as our drummer is content being wired in using XLR + a Behringer belt pack/w/ the volume adjustment. We are also considering wireless guitars as well but I think IEMs are much more important. Plus most guitar wireless systems can't handle my bass frequencies... I use a Dingwall tuned to E0 (full octave below a standard 4 string) so the transmitters won't really transmit that signal. (I don't mind being wired to my board in anyways). Side note: we all use Shure 215s for the IEMs.
That's great to know about the Xvive! Really good to hear first hand experience! The Shure 215s are a great choice too! Have you thought about just going wired? Seems to make sense if you aren't going wireless for your bass!
@@GaryOnBass I havent thought about going wired because im not a fan of having more wires than need to be there. Plus we are going to be going full wireless except my bass soon anyways with the senhiseier*
@Wyatt.D.Loiselle that makes sense! I get it if you're going full Sennheiser! But if you're still running a cable, it is only slightly heavier having both your guitar cable and headphone cable combined in the mini snake, and it saves you a good £800!
@@GaryOnBass That is very true. For me though, its more for streamlining and not exactly texture, but they way that cable feels pulling down constently on you when you go wired, feels really gross to me persoanlly.
Really helpful video, just ordered a Beringher P2. Thank you Gary.
They are really solid boxes and sit great on a pedal board! I've always got one in the bag just in case!
I just wondered what your views are on the best ear tips to maximise isolation and bass response. I got std ear tips on some KZ IEM's but wondered if foam would be better. I realise custom moulds would probably be superior, but not quite ready to commit to that yet.
The KZ are great starter IEMs. You can get more isolation and bass response with customs, but that doesn't mean the KZs can't be improved! You want a tight fit with a dense foam tip to optimise low end and isolation. I recommend the Comply 500 series. They make for a great fit, and you'll get far more rejection, BUT the extra density in the foam does mean that they tear more easily, so they don't last quite as long as cheap foam tips!
Are you going to go wired or ignore me and go wireless? I'd love to know!
You think DZR12 (no sub) can replace/pass for a Hi-Fi 12” system for home-use? Clarity and detail wise. Wondering if they could be a nice, cheaper alternative to expensive HiFi speakers like JBL L100, Klipsch Forte/Cornwall, etc. Any hiss, noise, hum while turned On at idle w/ no music playing? Edit: Ah, I see you have studio monitors in the back! I use HS8 for music-listening (but wanna upgrade to 12” speakers)… wondering if the DZR are as clear, clean, flat, accurate, neutral sounding as your studio monitors.
There is a massive amount of clarity in these speakers and I haven't noticed any hiss or hum, even at very high volumes. If I were to use a PA speaker for hi-fi I think this would be my pick, they are probably the most neutral spunding PA speaker out there! But they are really difficult to compare to my Adam audio monitors in the back, which actually make great hi-fi speakers! The reason for this is that they are built to be VERY loud! Your talking about 10x the output of some of those hi-fi speakers you mentioned! I'm not sure how they would sound at lower volumes as you will never be pushing the speakers to the point where they are designed to be used. So overall, I'm not sure! They would probably be my pick if I were to do that, but I'm not sure how comparable they would be to a speaker which is specifically made for that purpose! I'm sure they would sound great though and you would never have issues about not having enough volume! Haha
@@GaryOnBass Thanks for the detailed reply! Nice to hear they don't have any hiss/hum/noise! I may have to give them a try, hehe (I could never afford super expensive HiFi speakers nor amps anyways) And volume/power never hurts... esp when it's needed for parties, haha. Just as long as the sound quality is clear, neutral and nice. :D
@LessTalkMoreDelicious they would definitely be great for parties! I think they could definitely work! They also do a passive version, the CZR12 but I would most likely get the active ones! Keep me updated on how they do! I would be really interested to hear your experience!
I picked up a wireless unit from a brand called Anleon from Amazon. It was only around $150, and it's worked nearly perfectly for over a year now (around 70 gigs). It's certainly not the greatest, and is a bit noisy, but for playing bar shows it totally does the job. It can also be run in stereo, which is a nice treat. I have a little passive bodypack like yours, as a backup too, but I've only had to use it once.
Yeah, I don't think that tech is too complicated to get right in all reality! But as a bass player/vocalist, I find the frequency range a little limiting! If you can live with it, though, UHF is a great and solid option compared to the wifi units!
Hello, how do you use Yamaha Dzr 10 with a subs or just one sub. Do you use hpf filter on Dzr 10 and how much hpf frequency do you use... Thanks and Best Regards
It depends on the room, I would say about 80% of the time it's just the one sub (most venues are quite small here) and then with two subs at marquees and larger venues. Again the hpf depends on how much I need to put through the sub, it is generally either 80hz or 120hz.
Hello, so you set this settings on Dzr 10. You engage for instance hpf at 80hz on Dzr 10 if it's one or two subs. Thanks for your kindness and Best Regards
It really depends on the room! I would always stay above 80hz, though, and that is generally my go-to crossover point for these. If they need a bit more help, I would lift the crossover to take some weight off the tops! I find they can handle 80hz with no sweat!
I get... So you engage the hpf on Dzr not on subs. Thanks
What about the 12” DZRs? What about these bad boys in comparison to the new RCF ART 932s? That’s something I’d be interested to see😎
If the 12” DZR are anything like these then I can fully support them! The NX932s look and I imagine sound great too! Its always just the lack our input/outputs and DSP which lets RCF down a bit!
how would you rate the DZR10 vs. Seeburg Acoustic or KS Audio 10" active speakers, if you've had the pleasure of using/hearing any of their comparable offerings? in other words, is their sound quality worth the extra cost?
Unfortunately, I haven't heard about the Seeburg or KS 10" boxes or anything they do as an active unit, so I can't add anything here! The Yamaha speakers are great, though. They were designed by Nexo (a comparable pro company) and come with an outstanding Yamaha warranty-that's what tipped me into buying them!
I have 2 Yamaha DZR10-D and I’m looking for a good sub to use with them. Any sugestion?
I'm using RCF 705-II with mine, which is excellent and has more than enough bass for our usage. They are super lightweight and compact, but they project backwards quite a bit and have no Dante; if you're using that, then I guess the logical choice is the 12” or 15” Yamaha subs. These are great and super loud for their size, but they are pretty heavy; I think the 12” sub is 6kg heavier than the 15” RCF sub I use! If that isn't an issue, I would lean towards the Yamaha! I kind of wish I had got them now, in retrospect, but my back is thanking me!
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I would, those Yamaha dzr10’s have more power than my 15” Mackie thumps, so I’m going to change them. I also thought of the 12” dzr, but thought of the Mackie V-Class 12” as well. But I need a compact system the has power.
Dzr 12 the best in class with jbl 812p & etx 12
@@DJBennyswift take dzr 12 with two subs 15 - nuq 15 turbo sound & rcf 905 mk3 - this setup can take 150 pepole very easy .
@@DJBennyswift Try the Mackie DLM12 i have them for 8 years already and no complain what so ever and they are small, crazy powerful and light weight they are a little bit more expansive then the srm212 V class (about $999) but it's worth those extra $$$.
@@giancarlohernandez1967I never knew they existed, I was looking at it but still in decision mode, really nice though thanks!
10 inch box for foh?! what are you mixing? a micky mouse band?!
Haha, I worried about the same thing! We are a three to six-piece wedding band that runs everything directly through the PA, and we do 90 weddings a year, ranging from 100 to 300 people. These really have been great! I have only seen the limiter twice, and we play with one of the loudest drummers I know! You're not running festivals with these playing to thousands, but I would be hiring a crew and a PA I wouldn't want to carry myself for that! If you're a gigging musician, they will do the job and surprise you! I ran EV 15" tops and 18" subs before these, which can't touch this rig in terms of volume or sound quality!
@@GaryOnBass sounds nice, have you looked into the seeburg k20 dp? double 10 inch in a small form factor. they sound superb. i use the passive version.
Yeah, the Seaburg stuff has always been great! One of my friends had a big passive set, which I loved, but I couldn't handle the weight now! I like the look of their array systems, but they are rare to hear in the UK! These Yamahas are designed by NEXO, and you can see the pro audio background coming into play!
You might be surprised at just how loud and also how clear these things are when HPF over a sub. I also use Yamaha DSR115, RCF 932 and RCF NX945 and my DZR 10's can keep up with any of them if they are used over a decent sub!
@pooleywooley I couldn't agree more!
bummer that midrange dip and that they don’t extend to 40 hz even.
I have never struggled to get enough mids from these boxes! The clarity is something else that may explain why this isn't an issue. As for the low end, we have to be realistic in that they are 10" boxes. They are made to be coupled with a sub, which means they are going to be high-passed at the least 80hz. I think the 12" and 15" would deliver more than enough if you are happy to carry them and don't want to run a sub.
I’m a DJ and a friend of mine bought these 10” ones and tells me that I need to get these due to the power and how clear they sound. I have the Mackie Thumps 215xt with the 15” subwoofer and they have a nice sound, but I have to upgrade due to needing something compact and also powerful. I wanted to get the Rcf, qsc, or the Mackie srm V-Class. But my friend that I need these Yamaha dzr 10’s. So now I’m searching for more info about them and reviews. Thank you for this video.
Yeah, I run the DJ through these between sets, and I can totally see why DJs would love them! They're super compact and loud, and like your friend said, the clarity at high volumes is just mad, too! I would definitely grab these over the Mackies or QSC (although I love their desks, I find the speakers hard on the ears). The RCF NX speakers look great, but I haven't managed to hear any yet!
I’m really looking forward to upgrade to these! The price point is pretty up there, but I need to make the move. Also, the reason I’m looking into the 10” is due to my vehicle size, I have a 2020 Kia Soul which is limited in space so these will fit perfectly in my car, and I was thinking on getting two QSC 12” subwoofers. I know it’s two different brands but I’m not familiar with the Yamaha subwoofers, plus I like how the design of the QSC 12” sub is narrow. Do you have a suggestion that I may not know of?
@DJBennyswift you wont be disappointed! These are great! The Yamaha subs are awesome but they are quite heavy! I use the RCF 705 which are super light and quite compact! I've fit 2 subs and 2 tops in a Nissan Juke! Was a bit of a squeeze but they went in!
@@GaryOnBass that sounds great, I also have my other gear and facade which playing Tetris as a kid helped me fit my 15” mains, 15” sub, stands, controller, cable bags in the car with a tight squeeze. I’m going to look into that Rcf subwoofer to get dimensions, watts, SPL, and price point.
Haha I know the feeling, although my van now feels empty with these sitting in the back! I can fully recommend the RCF subs too! Thanks for watching!
At £55 these seem great for studio use on a budget. Or would you recommend an alternative around that price point?
Yeah, I think these are a great choice, but they may not be as flat as I would like for studio headphones. The Beyer Dynamic DT770 is better for this, but for the price, they are excellent! The Vik Firths do have far less bleed than the Beyers, though!
Your spine'll be fine
Let's hope so! It’s basically a free back massage all gig! Haha
Thank you for this review! Just ordered one. Even with all the cons, it still almost sounds too good to be true!
Thanks! I hope you enjoy the Backbeat as much as I do! If I am honest, the cons are more annoyances than anything! As long as you keep it charged and you find a good strap for it then it makes a big difference to your IEM mix!
Thank you for the review, and pointing out the pros/cons. I have the 1st version of the BackBeat.. The reason I would update to the G2 is because of the weight... but after the cons you mention, I'll stay with what I have. I only used my BackBeat for the drum kick... then I use a bassboard to feel my bass instead of the BackBeat. It's difficult to explain how I set things up to hear my bass and personal mix... and at the same time... feel the kick, and feel my bass. Basically I split signals (bass on ch1 split to FOH, and FOH personal mix on ch2 split to BackBeat wirelessly). To hear both bass and FOH personal mix... My personal mixer output both channels to my senn ew g4 IEM wireless system. Someone let me try a branded bassboard... like the ones you mentioned. They are expensive like you said, but I liked it so much... I made my own. I've experimented with different transducers at different prices, and it's evolved over the past 5-6 years... but I finally nailed the perfect combo. Instead of paying $1k for a branded bassboard, you can DIY it for around $350 including the subamp. I love my bassboard more than my BackBeat... so most of the time, I leave the BackBeat at home. One less thing to set up at a gig. Anyway... thanks for the helpful vid. Saved me $400... for now.
Thanks for the comment; I'm glad it saved you some money until after Christmas, at least! You don't notice the weight of the G2 at all! I haven't used the G1, but I have heard that was a point of contention! It's interesting to hear someone using both a backbeat and a bassboard! I don't know if I like the idea of being stuck in one place! But your DIY bassboard is something which I have definitely thought about a few times! Thanks for watching!
@@GaryOnBass Since going ampless with IEM's nearly a decade ago... I've been on a quest... evolving my silent stage rig to feel like playing with a backline. It's evolved into a killer setup... easy setup/teardown, and transport. The kick of the drums on my back BackBeat, sync'd with the bassboard is emersion bliss. The bands personal mix is controlled in a mobile app individually. I use an iPad on my silent stage rig to control my mix. I mute the bass with the sliders on the app so I can only feel the kick... but I can easily slide my bass into the mix, and feel it on my BackBeat if I move off the Bassboard. Not only do I have the ew g4 iem, I also use an ew-d cl1 for my bass... so I'm fully wireless on iem's and bass. So I'm not really stuck in one place. My silent rig is a game changer... I would show you, but no DM's on KZread.
Sounds absolutely amazing! I have been running IEMs for about 15 years but with a large amp for 7 of those years! The Backbeat makes a huge difference to my mix that's for sure! Maybe the Bassboard will be next on the list, I have more than enough sub-mixes on my desk! Haha
Wow what an epic rig!!! What size baseboard did you go with and are you happy with the size? Did you order direct from the company in Germany?
@@TheZenithphoenix I made a simple DIY version with 2 Dayton Audio BST-1 Bass Shakers mounted on 24”x24” ply. Funny that you just seen this post. I’m in the process of building my next board with same parts and design of the EICH Bassboard’s from Germany. Next one will be 35”x24”, and will look exactly like the EICH, and function the same where the top half will be isolated internally from the bottom board.
I also have a G2 and it helps to know that you have the same battery issues, but I don't think it's caused by the switch being knocked on. I haven't gigged mine yet but left it on my strap in my practise room. I unplugged everything from it and definitely switched it off but the battery went flat in about a day and a half. I think that something is drawing current and flattening the battery even when it's off. Whatever is causing the flat battery, still means you have to charge it every time you use it. Mine isn't as critical. I use a Helix Stomp that I use the pitch shifter on to go to Eb standard and D standard, so the only signal I'm sending to the BackBeat is my bass post-Helix, and I'm using my in-ears straight from my IEM pack as I've always done, so if the battery goes flat mid-gig I just get the usual IEM mix.
Yes, I'm sure my problem is due to the ease of pushing the button to turn it on! I have accidentally knocked it on from time to time. Mine isn't too critical. I remember my settings quite well now, but it is still annoying! I used my IEM pack for a while, but I have found that the mix straight through the BackBeat is excellent and produces a clean mix.
If you have any questions about the BackBeat G2 drop them in the comments and I'll be sure to reply! 🤟
have you tried/heard of different "Strap-Plesureboards"?
No, I haven't seen any other strap-based systems! I did see a backpack-type bass shaker, but I don't believe it is available anymore, and I'm not sure how comfortable it would be with a bass on!