Pure Electrical Training - by Adrian Davey
Pure Electrical Training - by Adrian Davey
Welcome to my channel.
My name is Adrian and I started my apprenticeship in 2001, started my own company in 2005 and now I have gone into teaching. I've made a lot of mistakes along the way and now I would like to get some of that knowledge down to try and help others avoid the mistakes .
I'm not saying that my way is right, I'm just a naturally reflective person and try to improve on what went right, and what went wrong.
I started teaching electrical apprentices in 2019, and I thought I could further help their knowledge and understanding by creating these videos to supplement the college/work training that they are receiving.
I then thought that I could share these videos with the wider electrical community so that others can benefit from my knowledge and experience.
I hope you enjoy my channel
Adrian
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So sir what would you advise a adult coming into the trade? Want to do maintenance
It is Simple money maker nothing else
Hi Adrian Very interesting. I did the same route as you at the same sort of time whilst working in an Electronic not Electrical industry. i have certificates for Level 3 Certificate in Electrical Installtion theory and practice part 1 and part 2 and 2391 . I then went for job interviews in the Electrical industry and was told I was not qulaified as I did not have NVQ level 3 or the Experience . I worked for 9months for one of these companies and put myself through the NVQ level 3 paying for it myself. I was however fully aware the 2360 was not considerd enough in itself. I however never did AM2 as it was only deemed a requirement if following the Apprentice route. I have had several apprentices and they all have AM2 yet are no where near as expreienced as I am. I also now have an HNC in Electrical Engineering so definitely consider myself qualified. I have friends my age that did a 5 year apprenticeship that dont have AM2 as it didnt exist at the time and there is no way they would be considered not qualified. I believe this has all come about as NICEIC wont take on new QS's that dont have an AM2. this is to try and stop 'fast qualification course' people becoming QS's which in a larger organisation is an important supervisory roll monitoring other Electricians competences and advising them. I would say you are Fully Qualified by experience(journeyman route). I would also suggest doing an NVQ and AM2 with your experience is a waste of time and will gain you nothing - so why do it?. Just out of interest what are these modules you do not have? and I will check mine.
Brilliant video 👏🏻
I’m working as an engineer in a factory and I was told by the college that I needed to go down the Btec route. A Electrical and electronic engineering course back in 2005 ish. Roll forward 15 years when I turned up to do some atex training, and was told point blank that I wasn’t an electrician and I would struggle to get an electrician mate job 🙈🙈. As of now I do have 20 years industrial experience and my 18th edition, but I’m being made redundant at the end of the year. I’d like to start my own business. Should I? Am I able to charge? What if I make a mistake? I told the college I wanted to be an electrician🤬
Wish I saw this video last year. I'm 39 now did shit at school my maths is shocking. But I got a job onsite as a electrical labourer and the qualified sparks said I picked things up fast but because I've got no gcse's the college wouldn't enrol me. So I've paid for a course myself doing 2 weekends a month. I've done level 2 and got through the 18th now on level 3. I'm am drained of trying to figure out these formulas and calculations if I knew it was going to be this difficult I would have just carried on paint spraying but I'm now committed to it. I don't just want to get through it I want to understand and know what I'm doing for obvious reasons but just feel like the course is chucking mock after mock exams at me to get through to the next bit. Like you said tho nothing is wasted I've learn a tonne of maths some of which I've never even heard of but quite enjoy figuring stuff out. Hopefully it all ends well.
Well explanatory
Brilliant video, very helpful! Thank you Adrian!
Thank you for taking the time to record this, Adrian. Whilst I’m right at the beginning of my journey (midway through L2), I was able to follow and understand everything you covered here - awesome content 👏🏻
Fluke charging £50 for the piece of metal? Disgusting company 🤮
such a great series... what a legend
Very late to this party. 2330 L2 and L3 done in 2010. Own company and QS and PDH with BSI > Elecsa > NIC EIC. Now doing 2391, and find I need 2346 and AM2E. 15 years as a Qualified Supervisor , and going back to school like an apprentice! Ridiculous... and EXPENSIVE!
As a recently retired JIB GOLD CARD APPROVED INDUSTRIAL ELECTRICIAN of 50 years i spent most of my working life being inspected by a electrical clerk of work who was paid by the client to make sure that the spec was carried out to that spec and if not made to put any errors right, so sadly my opinion of the modern sparks is that they are sloppy and lazy because for years now there are no longer clerks of works on sites and on big sites the electrical contractornis allowed to snag their own work so thats why the industry has gone down hill for years and with clients companies have attemoted to deskill the industry for years allowing unskilled people into the industry, even union officials telling us that cotainment is boring and a manual task that can be carried iut by unskilled workers that are suppervised , which is total bs ive worked on huge sites were the containment is the most difficult part of the contract , so im glad that im out of it now, i feel i worked in the best decades of our industry
I completely understand about you going through this inspection and testing for electricians but I find it totally handicaps the older sparks who for years was allowed to carry out test and inspecting for years because they were considered my the management of the company they worked for were considered competent , but then even though they were gold card and approved electricians then were told they had to take the test and inspection course to enable them to test, as you know although they are fully competent sparks when you get older it's harder to retain knowledge therefore harder to carry out exams, its my opinion that those sparks should have been made to take a full coarse on test and inspecting and veto have at hand for sites work the up to date regulations and the onsite guide to use when they have a query about something onsite, I was lucky as an experienced and well respected JIBAPPROVED INDUSTRIAL ELECTRICIAN WHO WAS ALSO A FOREMAN I worked on the biggest contracts and for the largest companies in England and I ran contracts and I carried out test and inspections for these companies and I never even took the test and inspection coarse or took the eighteenth edition, I never had any comeback with my work or testing and I'm a recently retired after 50 as an Industrial sparks, so I'm not against assessment but I think exceptions should have given to older fully qualified sparks, I've actually sacked testers who had the pass certificate but wasn't competent in onsite practical testing
From a recently retired industrial electrician of 50 years i thought your run through of testing a final ring circuit was spot on mate
Hi Adrian, taking AM2 next week. 1 question on the certs, zdb or zsdb a measurement is to be written. This area has always been vague and I can never get a definitive answer. Ze, simple enough, Zs end point of circuit, great. Zdb (Zsdb) though, as far as I’m aware this is taken for sub boards and N/A would be written if the board is supplied from the origin at the meter. But other tutors state take the measurement, leaving the main earth connected and breakers on thus EFLI of the whole installation including the external side. If this is the case I would assume as a live test bonding conductors left connected. So what must I display on the EIC ?
The thing is the IET is not the supreme governing body, it doesn't have a royal charter etc. It can't stop you calling yourself an electrician. You could go around undertaking electrical work but by law you'd have to get building control to authorise your work. The only real authority is building control and the delegated rights to competent installer schemes. I don't have a clue about commercial work, im sure commercial insurance to be maintained has requirements. Remember other industries have the same issues, anyone can call themselves an accountant etc etc.
Good video, thank you!
Hi, with the above mentioned course, does it include the part p defined scope and part p full scope? I get a little confused with the courses available, as some websites show part p defined scope and full scope as separate courses. Thanks.
Difference in qualifications and certification is because of the intelligence levels of people. You can't expect everyone to be qualified in everything. And, mostly poor regulations and enforcement, and too much grandfathering.
Keep up the good work mate! Really appreciate your effort and time spent on these videos. I wish I had you as a tutor, even so I managed to learn so many things from your videos.
Is thay lighting diagram correct?
am2 next week. terrified
Hi,i will be starting my electrical course september....what would you recommend i do since ive already apploed for a college already
Huh, don't know how to chase a wall or lift a floorboard.
Thanks for your great videos. Well explained.
Glad you like them!
I've been doing simple things like adding a socket to a ring or moving a socket. Replacing light fittings and switches, Wiring in a new cooker to replace a broken one, that sort of thing since I was 15 after I did my work experience with an electrician. Obviously not the cooker type stuff at that age. I'm 58. I did do a ton of chasing into walls and putting in capping with clout nails during work experience. Since I did that I set up my own Burglar alarm company (25 years ago) to put myself through college and I spent three years before that as a vehicle accessory technician. I've also been setting up my own computer networks LANs as well as wireless LANs (mainly using Ubiquiti gear). I've always been practical and always done my own DIY. I've even put a new secondary consumer unit in my garage (20 or so years ago) which is fine. I got an Electrician to test it all and connect it to my fuse box in the house. When I say fuse box that's literally what it was. It had repairable fuses. He also fitted an RCD next to the fuse box before the cable (armoured) went out of the house to the garage. So I have a lot of experience but no qualification. I always get an electrician to test stuff if it's complicated like for example running a new circuit. So I have been thinking about going for the Domestic Installer training and qualification. what do you think?
🎉you would be naive to think you could go to nite school for three years to qualify as an electrician..you can't bypass the thing
I was also working 5-days a week as an electrical apprentice, for a medium sized electrical contractors, carrying out all aspects of electrical work, across Domestic, commercial, and industrial. It wasn’t just night school
@@Pure_electrical_training different light on it now!
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Nice discussion
ive got level 7 ......in street fighter game ....haddoookinn
😂😂😂 they don’t make em like the old Escorts though, they were great times
If you don’t want to buy the XS training videos for the whole AM2 prep course then this guy is your best best bet
Awesome, thank you
Hi, have you done video for resister in parallel ? Scrolled down through your video I could not find any video about resister in parallel, Thanks
Not yet, I should get on it really, but currently getting divorced, so I’ve been preoccupied 😂
really enjoying this content! Where can i find the MFT video?
The people who judge us have never experienced the working day of, nor trained themselves or trained apprentices as an electrician in their lives. Im 61 and there is no way am i paying a grand to pass an AM2 of any description when you can buy a fake one that will get you a job. Fuck that. If someone doesnt have the skills required, at interview, to sort the wheat from the chaff, well let me tell you... I dont want to work for an outfit like that. It will be full of fucking people who have all the boxes ticked and no idea how to pull a disaster back into a valuable asset. And thats what its about. Who do you turn to when the shit hits the fan ? Like when an idiot puts the bucket of a JCB through the supply to a hospital, the standby generator has run out of fuel and all the UPSs have run out of battery and the whole IT network has ground to a halt... Nothings happening, what until someone who passed an AM2 a fortnight ago turns up ? God give me strength.
Hi Adrian, what is the title of the next video on this series (looking at GN3 to compare test results) thank you!
Funny thing is all bonding straps are generally designed for lugs and contrary to the common misconception that they are for a bare copper conductors, as illustrated in this video. In most European countries you can only use lugs on these types of connection. Bare copper is not acceptable except it looks like in the UK. Once at the forefront of standards, britian is sadly lagging behind.
Great video.. thank you..
11 years as an electrician but now need to do the 2346 to be gold card registered. This industry is becoming one big scam
I'm not an electrician, I just have an interest in learning anything and everything. This was so well explained and laid out. I understood it straight away. This is the 3rd or 4th video I have watched regarding ring circuits and only with this one did I get that 'light bulb' moment. Thank you for your effort.
Thank you for your kind words
Very well explained..thank you🙏🙏
I have a very similar set of certificates that you have up to Level 3, and including Electronics certificates that I gained a few years prior to these electrical certificates, which were done under the YTS. I spent 3 years every single day in college. No night courses. Full time in college for 3 years. At the time, Apprenticeships were out. Very few companies offered apprenticeships to my knowledge at the time, and instead favoured the college route and preferring City & Guilds over NVQs, which at the time were frowned upon by most companies. If you had C&Gs, you were golden. I've done my 16th, 17th and 18th Editions. I was sold a lie on the 16th - 17th Upgrade (Fast Track). It caused me so many problems because nobody accepted the Upgrade as it should have been the full course. I clearly remember having to present all my certificates in order to take the Regs couses. Now it seems any muppet can take a Regs course, including the cleaners. Not a single person at the college ever mentioned needing extra certificates. Like yourself, it was handshakes, pats on the back and beers down the pub with your classmates to celebrate. I'd never even heard of an AM2 course until recently. I'm not sure they even existed back then. Part P came out years later. I've been working as an industrial / commercial electrician ever since. Nobody has ever questioned my certificates when I applied for jobs. My work is of high quality and I'm highly regarded in the companies I have worked for. My work has been inspected on many occasions and has always been praised. Some of the dregs coming through now are terrible. They honestly haven't got a damn clue what they're doing. No idea about the theory and no understanding. I see so many people blagging their way through and bumbling around like clueless halfwits. I wouldn't employ 95% of them. I've had my suspicions about this for a few years now. Just something niggling in the back of my mind. I'm nearly 50 now, so unless absolutely required, I'm unlikely to go back to gain further certificates that I never knew I needed. There's always going to be new certs coming out. Thanks for the video, it's been informative.. and yes, I agree. This whole process should be clearer, standardised and there should be only one governing body and certification authority.
Are you not supposed to give the pipe a clean with wire wool before the application of the strap ?
I would say, only if it was heavily oxidised or coated with something. The only way to know for sure, would be to perform a long lead test 👌 These were clean bits of copper though, so not concerned at all
Fantastic video really helps a lot
Thank you
Never comment on videos but this is top tier 👍🏻 cheers
Thank you for taking the time 👌
What was that utter b s about having gone a cirtain way around the screw. It was a piece of cable hanging down off the screw. So much filler b s as it was recorded it was quite painful.
It’s not for everyone and you are the first person that has complained, so I thank you for your feedback and will take it on board. 👍
Excellent video very helpful many thanks please keep these videos coming
You are more than welcome 👊
It’s a great explanation but in your AM2 you’d only have one fault not multiple to look for
You would think so wouldn’t you, but I’ve had a few people who have come back and said that they were sure that there was more than one fault in their installation. One had 3 ohms on one bonding cable and open circuit on the other, so clearly more than one fault.
@@Pure_electrical_trainingI guess it encourages the student to completely overlook the circuit for faults. If you have only heard about two faults for one circuit on the bonding then that gives new learners the confidence it won’t be on a lighting or ring final which can throw off them off. Bonding is a lot easier on the day.
In your AM2 you wouldn’t get two faults in the same scenario? You’ve just told me there is a fault between two sockets and a fault on another? 12:30