Why are we barely getting by and paying 33 percent wtf
@Gent0034 ай бұрын
This guy is wrong lol
@binuvasu4 ай бұрын
Corporate gains tax in Europe doesn't work like that. As long as you don't sell it for Fiat, you are still invested.
@aproposrobin4 ай бұрын
I'm just gonna point out that this OP doesn't seem to understand that no US dollars are used at any point during such a transaction. You literally can't tax it
@Caseylawton4 ай бұрын
What if its a swap and and not an actual sell? Gains are never realized at any point.
@FakeName394 ай бұрын
Yea because the government should get something of mine when they did...... Nothing.
@ChrisHudsonJ4 ай бұрын
Bad example using real estate - you 1031 exchange to the new property and its a non-taxable event.
@zz80374 ай бұрын
you can defer taxes on real estate. so it kind of is (not taxable)
@ChrisHudsonJ4 ай бұрын
Yup, 1031 exchange. No taxes owed.
@shawnrio12844 ай бұрын
Not if you're smart and you don't do it in your name
@MattFromDaNorth4 ай бұрын
This is the full court press to treat crypto as stock, not currency
@USA-freedom4 ай бұрын
But it's not currency. At least not in my world. I'm sure you can treat it as a form of payment but currency it's not. You can trade anything for something in return. That's doesn't make it currency. I could trade you a bike for a watch. But I'm going to have a hard time buying grocery's with that watch you gave me instead of $30. Bitcoin is traded sort of like commodity. Wheat rice coal oil all commodity's. But you can't just exchange one for the other. You have to sell first than buy. Selling at anytime at a gain is taxable. It's never been anything other than that. Giving it a name like Bitcoin doesn't magically turn it into currency.
@MattFromDaNorth3 ай бұрын
I respectfully disagree. Currency is "a system of money in general use in a particular country" Does not matter who issued it. its a "system", trade in anything at that moment in time is "currency", In a post apocalyptic world, firearms cartridges and bags of flour will be currency's, The key metric for defining currency is "In general use"
@USA-freedom3 ай бұрын
@@MattFromDaNorth Where the fuck did you get this dream from. Currency is money plain and simple. Exchanging flour for a watch is bartering. Just because i gave you a watch for a bag of flour doesn't mean the next person will view the flour to be worth a watch. Currency can be used in every exchange. With currency I can buy a watch or a bag of flour. Currency be it coin paper or check back by currency is the universal exchange payment. Crypto is not currency. It's value is base on how much it's worth in.... currency. We are not living in a hypothetical post apocalyptic world.
@scottboyer84504 ай бұрын
Taxation is theft.
@MrRandommanz4 ай бұрын
It's not the same as selling on then buying another u are trading one token for the other.. when u trade usd for aud u don't pay a tax
@MrRandommanz4 ай бұрын
But ur not selling it u can trade one token for another one ur not selling it
@USA-freedom4 ай бұрын
To make the exchange the value it's at is what's consittered the sale price. If you bought it at $10 and traded it when it was $12. You made $2 on it. That $2 is completely taxable. BUT it you bought at $10 and traded it at $9 you pay no taxes for you never made anything off it. You are not going to win this battle.
@MrRandommanz4 ай бұрын
@@USA-freedom but nothing has been sold
@USA-freedom4 ай бұрын
@@MrRandommanz Than you made no exchange. The exchange is the sale. If the Bitcoin was worth more at the time of the exchange than when you first took control of it than you made a profit. This was bought as an investment in the hopes of making a gain... correct? Bitcoin has a dollar value correct? Pretty sure Bitcoin isn't a hobby where you just do this for the fun it.
@USA-freedom4 ай бұрын
@@MrRandommanz You buy stock you exchange stock for another stock. If that stock was worth more at the time of the exchange you pay taxes on that gain. You could hold that stock OR Bitcoin for 10 years and not pay a penny of taxes on either. But when you sell or exchange both if there was a gain you pay taxes in both cases.
@smokethetruth4 ай бұрын
They can come pry their taxes from my cold dead fingers
@BeirutPapa4 ай бұрын
Decentralized exchanges and non-kyc machines are the way to go... If they don't know... they don't know...
@spiffymcfunkerton4 ай бұрын
So how much do I get taxed when I get Euros for my USD?
@USA-freedom4 ай бұрын
Nothing is the short answer to that simple currency question. Bitcoin is not currency. Giving this cyber commodity a name like Bitcoin doesn't magically turn it into currency.
@USA-freedom4 ай бұрын
Let me add you will pay an exchange rate. Going both ways if you decide to exchange back.
@cryptocuzzins92144 ай бұрын
Technically the government has an identified what cryptocurrency is yet so at this point it still has the same classification as baseball cards trading one baseball card for another so at what point is there a taxable event until they identified as an actual currency, security or commodity. Bitcoin has already been declared a commodity the rest???
@investmentanalyst7794 ай бұрын
No idea what you’re talking about. Crypto tax laws were established years ago. It’s exactly as he said. Any conversion of crypto is a sale taxed at income. Yes, that includes buying something with crypto, counts as a sale. lol what you’re talking about has nothing to do with taxes.
@YT978984 ай бұрын
This is wrong. How can you pay fiat tax, if you haven’t realized fiat gains? Where does the money come from? Out of thin air? You literally cant pay tax. The government doesn’t accept capital gains tax in bitcoin or eth. So you pay the gains tax when you realize it. The issue here is timing. Imagine buying a gold bullion 10 years ago, and you stash it at home. The government does not require you to pay taxes each year on it right? Same with homes, you pay capital gains tax when you sell.
@DigitalSteel4 ай бұрын
The IRS does not really care that you think it is wrong... They will still tax you for gains made at the time of the transaction since that is in fact how it works.
@purem1ch1gan4 ай бұрын
Also you can buy and sell freely within an IRA, withdraws and deposits are the taxable event, like you said realized vs unrealized gains.
@Tounguepunchfartbox4 ай бұрын
@DrWr1ghtwell that’s because you’re poor lol.
@stopcensoringmen50444 ай бұрын
This is why your crypto should be Monero XMR.
@fjl054 ай бұрын
how are you going to trade it without an exchange?
@BioVisier4 ай бұрын
100% Basically the whole point of crypto was to tell the tax departments to go and get fucked, along with the governments that control them. Tax is theft.
@CloakBJJ4 ай бұрын
Lol, and he cites a 1031 like-kind exchange as an example. Talk about not understanding the tax law and doesn't know what the hell they're doing.
@throughmyshadow4 ай бұрын
His previous video was about 1031s.
@FroisonControl4 ай бұрын
memory of a goldfish maybe?
@yrutripping4 ай бұрын
The only way you can trade securities, and recently crypto, without incurring a tax liability is thru an IRA. Assuming your brookerage allows crypto trading. Then you can make the incorrectly worded claim, "It's still invested, so it's not a taxable event". I can totally imagine some crypto bro on Discord saying that.
@dsuperior22824 ай бұрын
Free money 💵 for the migrant😊
@cashual60474 ай бұрын
Dont care They will never find out
@investmentanalyst7794 ай бұрын
Literally reported by the brokerage… don’t report it. Those extra 150000 IRS agents are waiting for you not to report it. Then will wait 3 years to hit you with the audit so they can charge you the MAX penalty they can plus interest. That $300 you didn’t report just turned into $9000 tax bill. GOTCHA! lol works every time.
@Cruiser2034 ай бұрын
GOTCHA lolyou get so excited thinking about getting on your knees for the government don't you @@investmentanalyst779
@cashual60474 ай бұрын
I use a vpn, so i'll be perfectly fine.
@investmentanalyst7794 ай бұрын
@@cashual6047 lol vpn isn’t going to hide you in the slightest. KYC buddy. And Every transaction is also public. Literally no hiding at all. Actually made it easier to find criminals.
@OracleAlgo4 ай бұрын
Tell me how they link a defi wallet that has never been associated with a KYC exchange and I’ll pay you 1 million cash
@honour54714 ай бұрын
You can avoid fbi, homeland security etc easily compared to irs. Irs is the strongest lmao ofc they are smart enough
@reginaldsafety60904 ай бұрын
2 million seems like a lot until you consider that when you take it out it will be 2060. If its 401K money you're gonna pay 20% tax too. 2 million isn't gonna be a ton of money in 2060. Inflation is a thing. SS may shore that up if its still a thing in 30 years.
@fleamarketjunk21414 ай бұрын
Don't listen to this guy's Life your life now not 40 years from now
@CreatorsExpress4 ай бұрын
You still owe your state about 300 even with no employees or if you haven’t done business and you have to remain in good standing so you don’t forfeit the llc.
@user-rn3px3uo2r4 ай бұрын
Amen!!!! ...take that I r.s.!!!
@Teddy_Vilardi4 ай бұрын
What percentage of taxes can they take out of zero. Lol is isn't it after 5 years you don't make any money the government looks at it as a hobby? I wondered that
@leonbelton34604 ай бұрын
Promo-SM
@kbowler92664 ай бұрын
Depends on who your asking. Life expectancy gets longer over time. Cost of living get more expensive over time. How will you predict how much money anyone will need? You cannot be sure how it will all play out for each individual. You can't know what will be happening even in 20 years.
@javythebest14 ай бұрын
I like his sarcasm
@Cloudedits04 ай бұрын
Bro is trying to scam sum kid
@BerryChickenNud4 ай бұрын
My home is a write off because I sleep there which makes my work more efficient thus is related to business
@IMDYT4204 ай бұрын
This guy gets it 😂😂
@stuffidowhenimbored22194 ай бұрын
Idea, don't buy it, let Apple make a Gen 2, and that's gonna be cheaper, and better
@maxwell68814 ай бұрын
"Cheaper" lmao got anymore knee slapping jokes?
@stuffidowhenimbored22194 ай бұрын
@@maxwell6881 I don't like Apple, I'm an android user, but the iPhone was expensive on it's first generation, the next iPhone was cheaper. that's why I think that it will be cheaper. although to be fair, It is Apple.
@Noobestbutcoolest4 ай бұрын
yap yap
@gamingwithgeko73775 ай бұрын
I took my buddy on a trip 300 miles away and bought him lunch on this island, while we were there we talked about future prospects that I may be able to either hire him as an employee or something. We talked about the logistics of the work and how he would be payed. But realistically I'm at least a year away from the income making hiring an employee worth it. And I would have taken him anyways and bought his lunch. Should I be able to use that as a right off or because he was a friend and I can't realistically hire him for some time, would it still qualify? In your opinion. I won't take this as legal advice lol.
@fannycruz47445 ай бұрын
if you receive a W-2, it reads that unfortunately you can’t deduct home office of $1,500 please verify thank you
@KonigGustavAdolph5 ай бұрын
" So I got 8 side hustle that I stop doing once I make $19,5000 in each. None of this actually counts as taxable income, right?"
@pdub80105 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure this is humor but in the off chance it isn't - no, you owe taxes on all of that
@KonigGustavAdolph5 ай бұрын
@@pdub8010 Nah, it was a joke.
@charlietaylor63895 ай бұрын
The definition of tax fraud is the IRS
@amazinggrace3135 ай бұрын
I’m not claiming my lemonade proceeds
@jakew65165 ай бұрын
Every tradesman listening to this guy just rolling their eyes 😂😂😂
@andrewlovell63535 ай бұрын
Government steals enough from us!
@randylinderman24305 ай бұрын
Cheat the f out of government, tell they start taking care of America's
@naomisteinhagen665 ай бұрын
F the IRS
@JT-un7dc5 ай бұрын
If you can prove your losses and you're not doing any dirty stuff, then it's a loss.
@dGroupcom5 ай бұрын
uber hasn't ever made money?
@Orc-icide6 ай бұрын
.... I throw my receipts out with the laundry
@peterpiper2166 ай бұрын
Unless the govt doesn't like you then they will wanna see them 😅
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Why are we barely getting by and paying 33 percent wtf
This guy is wrong lol
Corporate gains tax in Europe doesn't work like that. As long as you don't sell it for Fiat, you are still invested.
I'm just gonna point out that this OP doesn't seem to understand that no US dollars are used at any point during such a transaction. You literally can't tax it
What if its a swap and and not an actual sell? Gains are never realized at any point.
Yea because the government should get something of mine when they did...... Nothing.
Bad example using real estate - you 1031 exchange to the new property and its a non-taxable event.
you can defer taxes on real estate. so it kind of is (not taxable)
Yup, 1031 exchange. No taxes owed.
Not if you're smart and you don't do it in your name
This is the full court press to treat crypto as stock, not currency
But it's not currency. At least not in my world. I'm sure you can treat it as a form of payment but currency it's not. You can trade anything for something in return. That's doesn't make it currency. I could trade you a bike for a watch. But I'm going to have a hard time buying grocery's with that watch you gave me instead of $30. Bitcoin is traded sort of like commodity. Wheat rice coal oil all commodity's. But you can't just exchange one for the other. You have to sell first than buy. Selling at anytime at a gain is taxable. It's never been anything other than that. Giving it a name like Bitcoin doesn't magically turn it into currency.
I respectfully disagree. Currency is "a system of money in general use in a particular country" Does not matter who issued it. its a "system", trade in anything at that moment in time is "currency", In a post apocalyptic world, firearms cartridges and bags of flour will be currency's, The key metric for defining currency is "In general use"
@@MattFromDaNorth Where the fuck did you get this dream from. Currency is money plain and simple. Exchanging flour for a watch is bartering. Just because i gave you a watch for a bag of flour doesn't mean the next person will view the flour to be worth a watch. Currency can be used in every exchange. With currency I can buy a watch or a bag of flour. Currency be it coin paper or check back by currency is the universal exchange payment. Crypto is not currency. It's value is base on how much it's worth in.... currency. We are not living in a hypothetical post apocalyptic world.
Taxation is theft.
It's not the same as selling on then buying another u are trading one token for the other.. when u trade usd for aud u don't pay a tax
But ur not selling it u can trade one token for another one ur not selling it
To make the exchange the value it's at is what's consittered the sale price. If you bought it at $10 and traded it when it was $12. You made $2 on it. That $2 is completely taxable. BUT it you bought at $10 and traded it at $9 you pay no taxes for you never made anything off it. You are not going to win this battle.
@@USA-freedom but nothing has been sold
@@MrRandommanz Than you made no exchange. The exchange is the sale. If the Bitcoin was worth more at the time of the exchange than when you first took control of it than you made a profit. This was bought as an investment in the hopes of making a gain... correct? Bitcoin has a dollar value correct? Pretty sure Bitcoin isn't a hobby where you just do this for the fun it.
@@MrRandommanz You buy stock you exchange stock for another stock. If that stock was worth more at the time of the exchange you pay taxes on that gain. You could hold that stock OR Bitcoin for 10 years and not pay a penny of taxes on either. But when you sell or exchange both if there was a gain you pay taxes in both cases.
They can come pry their taxes from my cold dead fingers
Decentralized exchanges and non-kyc machines are the way to go... If they don't know... they don't know...
So how much do I get taxed when I get Euros for my USD?
Nothing is the short answer to that simple currency question. Bitcoin is not currency. Giving this cyber commodity a name like Bitcoin doesn't magically turn it into currency.
Let me add you will pay an exchange rate. Going both ways if you decide to exchange back.
Technically the government has an identified what cryptocurrency is yet so at this point it still has the same classification as baseball cards trading one baseball card for another so at what point is there a taxable event until they identified as an actual currency, security or commodity. Bitcoin has already been declared a commodity the rest???
No idea what you’re talking about. Crypto tax laws were established years ago. It’s exactly as he said. Any conversion of crypto is a sale taxed at income. Yes, that includes buying something with crypto, counts as a sale. lol what you’re talking about has nothing to do with taxes.
This is wrong. How can you pay fiat tax, if you haven’t realized fiat gains? Where does the money come from? Out of thin air? You literally cant pay tax. The government doesn’t accept capital gains tax in bitcoin or eth. So you pay the gains tax when you realize it. The issue here is timing. Imagine buying a gold bullion 10 years ago, and you stash it at home. The government does not require you to pay taxes each year on it right? Same with homes, you pay capital gains tax when you sell.
The IRS does not really care that you think it is wrong... They will still tax you for gains made at the time of the transaction since that is in fact how it works.
Also you can buy and sell freely within an IRA, withdraws and deposits are the taxable event, like you said realized vs unrealized gains.
@DrWr1ghtwell that’s because you’re poor lol.
This is why your crypto should be Monero XMR.
how are you going to trade it without an exchange?
100% Basically the whole point of crypto was to tell the tax departments to go and get fucked, along with the governments that control them. Tax is theft.
Lol, and he cites a 1031 like-kind exchange as an example. Talk about not understanding the tax law and doesn't know what the hell they're doing.
His previous video was about 1031s.
memory of a goldfish maybe?
The only way you can trade securities, and recently crypto, without incurring a tax liability is thru an IRA. Assuming your brookerage allows crypto trading. Then you can make the incorrectly worded claim, "It's still invested, so it's not a taxable event". I can totally imagine some crypto bro on Discord saying that.
Free money 💵 for the migrant😊
Dont care They will never find out
Literally reported by the brokerage… don’t report it. Those extra 150000 IRS agents are waiting for you not to report it. Then will wait 3 years to hit you with the audit so they can charge you the MAX penalty they can plus interest. That $300 you didn’t report just turned into $9000 tax bill. GOTCHA! lol works every time.
GOTCHA lolyou get so excited thinking about getting on your knees for the government don't you @@investmentanalyst779
I use a vpn, so i'll be perfectly fine.
@@cashual6047 lol vpn isn’t going to hide you in the slightest. KYC buddy. And Every transaction is also public. Literally no hiding at all. Actually made it easier to find criminals.
Tell me how they link a defi wallet that has never been associated with a KYC exchange and I’ll pay you 1 million cash
You can avoid fbi, homeland security etc easily compared to irs. Irs is the strongest lmao ofc they are smart enough
2 million seems like a lot until you consider that when you take it out it will be 2060. If its 401K money you're gonna pay 20% tax too. 2 million isn't gonna be a ton of money in 2060. Inflation is a thing. SS may shore that up if its still a thing in 30 years.
Don't listen to this guy's Life your life now not 40 years from now
You still owe your state about 300 even with no employees or if you haven’t done business and you have to remain in good standing so you don’t forfeit the llc.
Amen!!!! ...take that I r.s.!!!
What percentage of taxes can they take out of zero. Lol is isn't it after 5 years you don't make any money the government looks at it as a hobby? I wondered that
Promo-SM
Depends on who your asking. Life expectancy gets longer over time. Cost of living get more expensive over time. How will you predict how much money anyone will need? You cannot be sure how it will all play out for each individual. You can't know what will be happening even in 20 years.
I like his sarcasm
Bro is trying to scam sum kid
My home is a write off because I sleep there which makes my work more efficient thus is related to business
This guy gets it 😂😂
Idea, don't buy it, let Apple make a Gen 2, and that's gonna be cheaper, and better
"Cheaper" lmao got anymore knee slapping jokes?
@@maxwell6881 I don't like Apple, I'm an android user, but the iPhone was expensive on it's first generation, the next iPhone was cheaper. that's why I think that it will be cheaper. although to be fair, It is Apple.
yap yap
I took my buddy on a trip 300 miles away and bought him lunch on this island, while we were there we talked about future prospects that I may be able to either hire him as an employee or something. We talked about the logistics of the work and how he would be payed. But realistically I'm at least a year away from the income making hiring an employee worth it. And I would have taken him anyways and bought his lunch. Should I be able to use that as a right off or because he was a friend and I can't realistically hire him for some time, would it still qualify? In your opinion. I won't take this as legal advice lol.
if you receive a W-2, it reads that unfortunately you can’t deduct home office of $1,500 please verify thank you
" So I got 8 side hustle that I stop doing once I make $19,5000 in each. None of this actually counts as taxable income, right?"
I'm pretty sure this is humor but in the off chance it isn't - no, you owe taxes on all of that
@@pdub8010 Nah, it was a joke.
The definition of tax fraud is the IRS
I’m not claiming my lemonade proceeds
Every tradesman listening to this guy just rolling their eyes 😂😂😂
Government steals enough from us!
Cheat the f out of government, tell they start taking care of America's
F the IRS
If you can prove your losses and you're not doing any dirty stuff, then it's a loss.
uber hasn't ever made money?
.... I throw my receipts out with the laundry
Unless the govt doesn't like you then they will wanna see them 😅