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Shivan Library

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  • @danshaku
    @danshaku3 күн бұрын

    The match was HOT!

  • @plaguedr8831
    @plaguedr883110 күн бұрын

    What an amazing video, thanks 🙏

  • @plaguedr8831
    @plaguedr883110 күн бұрын

    I still run Hurloon in old school

  • @danshaku
    @danshaku10 күн бұрын

    Man, both decks were awesome, but I just cant get over Teros beautiful legendaries! What a legend!

  • @chasingsunset9801
    @chasingsunset980110 күн бұрын

    Was a boy in 94-96...aside from terror,sengir vampire,remove soul,this is the card I fell in love with...I make deck box with hurloon minotaur on it...on top of the box,I put a note that says "you and what army"...still have my hurloons on my old school deck played with friends most weekends...anyway cheers from Philippines

  • @iiiokokok
    @iiiokokok12 күн бұрын

    Hi. Does anyone know where they have ordered the playmats? Br

  • @shivan-librarian
    @shivan-librarian11 күн бұрын

    The organizers let me know that they were made by Custom Playmats. custom-playmat.shop/en/

  • @sebastiendube3874
    @sebastiendube387417 күн бұрын

    Gaining the lifes from that swords at 7:50 could have changed that tight game as well.

  • @ricardorodrigues5253
    @ricardorodrigues525317 күн бұрын

    Game 1, that balance should have killed one more land of the robots player.

  • @shivan-librarian
    @shivan-librarian17 күн бұрын

    You are absolutely correct. Lauri accidentally counted the Mox as a land and that was missed completely.

  • @valeredumont5018
    @valeredumont501827 күн бұрын

    Hi, how do you make the painy stick on the card ?

  • @shivan-librarian
    @shivan-librarian25 күн бұрын

    Posca markers have enough coverage and can stick on their own. I do use a cheap spray can matte varnish to seal the card. A very light coat to make sure the paint doesn't ever come off.

  • @valeredumont5018
    @valeredumont501825 күн бұрын

    @@shivan-librarian Thanks for the answer, last time I tried I had issues with this, I need to give it a new try.

  • @THMCTerracraft2
    @THMCTerracraft228 күн бұрын

    Okay this is broken, too bad it's on comically overcosted mnions.

  • @danshaku
    @danshakuАй бұрын

    Nice games! So tight with Juhis down just waiting for that one bolt to ruin his day!

  • @henlohenlo689
    @henlohenlo689Ай бұрын

    i have 2 aladdin decks. deck1: 4 aladdin 4 gorilla shaman 4 shattering pulse 4 mycosynth lattice 4 liquimetal coating 4 liquimetal torque 4 fireball 4 fanning the flames 4 ragavan, nimble pilpherer 24 lands(24 mountains) deck2: 4 dwarven miner 4 dwarven blastminer 4 army ants 4 orcish settlers 4 helldozer 2 trench wurm 2 mine layer 4 wake of destruction 4 royal assassin 4 aladdin 24 lands(4 westvale abbey, 12 dual lands, 4 mountain, 4 swamp)

  • @shivan-librarian
    @shivan-librarianАй бұрын

    Dang. Those are some to-the-point type of decks. You are making a point with those lists.

  • @henlohenlo689
    @henlohenlo689Ай бұрын

    @@shivan-librarian deck: blow up or gain controll of all of opponents permanents and relatively fast. via turning things into artifacts. deck2: blow up all oppponents lands, but also some creatures and take artifacts. and if in an emergency state can win with westvale abbey. all creatures deck so relatively easy to transform westvale abbey. their was heaviest emphasis on land destruction because usually this is one of the most plentiful card types in play.

  • @rabid.w0mbat.
    @rabid.w0mbat.Ай бұрын

    solid games from two groovy players.cheers for this episode mate

  • @TimmytheSorcerer
    @TimmytheSorcererАй бұрын

    Great to see Rasputin Dreamweaver in action 🍻

  • @shivan-librarian
    @shivan-librarianАй бұрын

    We've been talking about Rasputin Reanimator with different ways of abusing the extra mana, and Tuukka was the first to actually do something proper with it.

  • @danshaku
    @danshakuАй бұрын

    Love the Tuukkas way to flip the orb! No pressure, casualy giving the orb MORE air than where it started the flip :D.

  • @shivan-librarian
    @shivan-librarianАй бұрын

    Yeah, that is a confident flip

  • @MrAdumbration
    @MrAdumbrationАй бұрын

    Interesting last turn. I wonder if there was a chance for Timo to play around the double bolt at the end.

  • @flankingmaneuvers
    @flankingmaneuversАй бұрын

    I might be wrong, but I think he said he had a blue elemental blast in hand. If he did not play out the Chaos Orb, he would’ve been able to counter one of the bolts. It was a nailbiter!

  • @Iksa-9394
    @Iksa-93946 күн бұрын

    ⁠Yes, absolutely right. I expected that if Lauri tutored up a Mind Twist, I’d need to have the orb on the board before my hand gets twisted away. I didn’t realize he already had so much burn in hand. What a crazy last turn.

  • @flankingmaneuvers
    @flankingmaneuvers2 күн бұрын

    @@Iksa-9394I tutored one of the lightning bolts 😊

  • @chasingsunset9801
    @chasingsunset9801Ай бұрын

    My revised fungusaur ability says different,now I'm confused which rulings il go with...hope il get an explanation from this 😅

  • @shivan-librarian
    @shivan-librarianАй бұрын

    Always play with the current Oracle text. Check it on either Gatherer or Scryfall.

  • @chasingsunset9801
    @chasingsunset9801Ай бұрын

    @@shivan-librarian current text makes it more abusive...glad it's no longer complicated...tnx

  • @Jaakington
    @JaakingtonАй бұрын

    Haha what a turn 1 for Lauri in game 1

  • @rabid.w0mbat.
    @rabid.w0mbat.Ай бұрын

    So groovy you streamed this mate, cheers

  • @draftmagicagain1000
    @draftmagicagain1000Ай бұрын

    Awesome video! You showed us your whole journey, pack opening, trading, deck building, and the rounds. Very entertaining keep it up!

  • @adamwarehime6444
    @adamwarehime64442 ай бұрын

    They need to bring back banding back its not confusing at all. They still print cards with storm an its 10 on the storm scall so print banding

  • @0condolences
    @0condolences2 ай бұрын

    am i supposed to know who that is

  • @TO_Fenrir
    @TO_Fenrir2 ай бұрын

    There are some differences between your explanation and my own interpretation of the rules, and I honestly have no Idea which is correct, could you expand on these points a bit more? 1. You say "nothing happens" when a creature loses banding midcombat. (6:08) But the rules seem to suggest that after losing banding neither of the damage step effects will work, for a defending band thats kinda obvious as the damage step is the only part where banding does anything, but if you attack, create a band, get blocked, lose banding and then go to damage step, doesn't your opponent get to assign their damage? 2. Your description of "bands with other" band creation is really confusing. (2:43) As far as I can tell you can make a band with *any amount* of "quality" creatures, of which at least 1 has "banding with other quality". I'm honestly not sure what that part of the video implies. 3. Also "the band must be formed ... in the declare blockers step when blocking" was kind of a throwaway comment at the end which I don't think many people paid attention to, but you don't declare bands when blocking at all, you just block with creatures and if one of them has banding you decide the damage from that attacker. This one I'm quite sure of.

  • @ZeHamberglar
    @ZeHamberglar2 ай бұрын

    I feel like the storm scale needs to be renamed at this point because Storm gets reprinted quite frequently (so frequently, that it's happened since this video released).

  • @Rorschachqp
    @Rorschachqp3 ай бұрын

    Banding is most powerful in Limited play.

  • @TeaGarrison
    @TeaGarrison4 ай бұрын

    I have been playing Shandalar lately but I have been avoiding Banding cards because I didn’t understand it. Thanks for this.

  • @Dwarven_Steel_Games
    @Dwarven_Steel_Games4 ай бұрын

    I don't know why banding confused people. It's very straightforward.

  • @IneptCardCollector
    @IneptCardCollector4 ай бұрын

    Shout out to Tax Edge Inc. in the video description 😅😅

  • @IneptCardCollector
    @IneptCardCollector4 ай бұрын

    Had to subscribe for this one.

  • @analiacartelle1115
    @analiacartelle11154 ай бұрын

    Band still is garbage mechanic

  • @dyne313
    @dyne3135 ай бұрын

    Phyrexian Obliterator

  • @dyne313
    @dyne3135 ай бұрын

    Stuffy Doll / Brash Taunter

  • @Debatra.
    @Debatra.5 ай бұрын

    I've been saying for years how I unironically want banding to make a comeback.

  • @beno3686
    @beno36865 ай бұрын

    Also Mark Poole related you can see the Counterspell man on the painting in the background of Sage Owl (Weatherlight)

  • @LibertyFixxxer
    @LibertyFixxxer5 ай бұрын

    I have a changeling EDH deck with a bunch of tribal effects. Fortified area is in there :)

  • @FinalTrade
    @FinalTrade5 ай бұрын

    Mark Rosewater needs to watch this video. =/ Hopefully when he's gone we can get Banding back on some new cards.

  • @MNman87
    @MNman875 ай бұрын

    How does it work with first strike or double strike? I can choose to assignee first first strike dmg first?

  • @seandun7083
    @seandun70834 ай бұрын

    If you had 2 2/2s attacking in a band and they were double blocked with a 4/4 first strike and a vanilla 2/2, you would have to divide the 4/4's damage first. Since you can't have both of your creatures survive, your best move is to deal all 4 to one of them killing it. Normal damage then happens. Assuming your remaining creature still has banding you get to divide their 2/2's damage, but you only have the one creature to assign it to so there's only one choice. You can have your 2/2 take out theirs on the way out. If they didn't have first strike, then when normal damage comes around, you can instead force them to deal all 6 of their damage to a single one of your creatures saving the other one.

  • @dzspdref
    @dzspdref5 ай бұрын

    Try adding in a Márton Stromgald into the deck when blocking; all your creatures get HUGE even if blocking in separate bands. Add in Altar of Dementia and mill your opponent to death. Oh, it also works with attacking, but blocking is so much nicer to save your creatures, although if attacking you might lose your Márton, but when you end turn after milling them, they lose the game.

  • @TehKorwinMikke
    @TehKorwinMikke5 ай бұрын

    0:50 The "storm scale" is about how likely it is to be seen in Standard.

  • @pennyd.3651
    @pennyd.36513 ай бұрын

    No, the storm scale is how likely the mechanic is to be printed on new cards or reprinted in new sets.

  • @calemr
    @calemr3 ай бұрын

    ​@@pennyd.3651The literal first sentence of the article on the storm scale is "The Storm Scale is a ranking of the likelihood that a given mechanic will be reprinted in any future Standard-legal set." Standard-Legal.

  • @pennyd.3651
    @pennyd.36513 ай бұрын

    @@calemr Which is just a vague shortening of the actual description of what the storm scale actually is.

  • @calemr
    @calemr3 ай бұрын

    @@pennyd.3651 Oh, I'm sure they were especially focused on saving the word count by adding "Standard-Legal" to the description. Those two extra words really kept it laconic by an extra... Negative thirteen letters. And it's not like they have a meaning or anything, that might suggest the function is in some way connected to, I dunno, a specific format's rules?

  • @bracket0398
    @bracket03985 ай бұрын

    Good vid, I havent played in a long time but I did surprisingly recognise the braingeyser art immediately. Band everything! I am an old magic fogey! Dakkon Blackblade and Keldon Warlord!

  • @ServbotNumba40
    @ServbotNumba405 ай бұрын

    Bands with other has been storm scale 10 since 2020. Storm scale 11 is just a joke scale.

  • @aklepatzky
    @aklepatzky5 ай бұрын

    What are good colours for banding? Obviously w, what would be a good 2ndary colour? Any commander that could take advantage of it?

  • @Jewels___
    @Jewels___5 ай бұрын

    A few adjustments that could help bringing the keyword back: 1- As the band controller decides how combat damage is distributed, he would be limited on deciding the order of creatures that take the damage first and said creature have to take all damage from the same enemy creature until his toughness limit, where excess damage will go to another member of the band. So more creatures would die but you still get a choice on which ones. 1.1- If several creatures clash with the band, the band controler still decides how each blocker deals damage, separately. So yes there is a possibility of losing zero creatures when fighting with a band vs several enemy creatures. 2- Creatures with protection could reduce the damage to zero and block all of it even if it surpasses the creature's toughness because they wouldn't die while fighting, so that way of "abusing" still persists. 3- Following on the first point, no anti-trample bs. if your whole band don't have enough toughness, excess damage will indeed go through. I'm pretty sure there would be enough reasons to put some of those cards in our decks if new ones get printed. Specially as a RW players, I surely wouldn't mind having more battlefield related tricks under my sleeve.

  • @levendefjorder3239
    @levendefjorder32395 ай бұрын

    Agreed. I would have played banding, but I think the mechanic is a little bit too good and that it's unfun for the opponents. Still placing it in my pre-modern cube though 😈 (the cube is multi-part, we don't need to include the banding part😇, but it will be incuded in the Ice Age part to humour the real old-timers)

  • @DragoSmash
    @DragoSmash5 ай бұрын

    i bought a Baton of Morale just because i love Banding Banding should return to the game as it isn't as complicated as some new stuff Change my mind

  • @VydeoGramesJunk
    @VydeoGramesJunk5 ай бұрын

    This should be great with that new Jodah 5 color legends especially since he makes your legends bigger (with the land that gives banding to your legendary creatures with each other)

  • @randallross420
    @randallross4205 ай бұрын

    Yo can i destroy the whole band with a single Terror?

  • @shivan-librarian
    @shivan-librarian5 ай бұрын

    No. They are still separate creatures that must be destroyed individually.

  • @AdurnaNagra
    @AdurnaNagra5 ай бұрын

    You should work your way through all of Old Fogey's effects. Then, just have a big finale video on old rules explaining how Old Fogey would function.

  • @seandun7083
    @seandun70834 ай бұрын

    One hilarious thing I recently realized is that his Echo ability doesn't do anything because he will phase out and miss the first upkeep.

  • @Trenjeska
    @Trenjeska5 ай бұрын

    Good explanation of what I (mostly) knew. The maze of Ith style abuses and the thing of bluntly assigning ALL trample damage to a 1 toughness creature were a bit of a "oh yeah, of course!" Even more interested in making a banding commander deck now XD

  • @CleazyMane-ef2cg
    @CleazyMane-ef2cg5 ай бұрын

    Here's how you play banding... Don't.

  • @drew8235
    @drew82355 ай бұрын

    Love this channel! I started with 7th Edition, so missed out on all this stuff.