Listen to that beautiful Valenta engine, great video, thanks for sharing.
@robertmorley974829 күн бұрын
Kevin, look for the other video where i go in the engine room :)
@robertmorley974829 күн бұрын
This is it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/paWOrbV-eNiaY7w.htmlsi=kU6LUrwXVCd0FHwu
@andrewbrown6786Ай бұрын
Under BR, driving trains was as good as it got, not just HST’s. Under PR, have to admit, it was a totally different ball game, and not something I miss. Never knowingly met Bob, but he sounds like a ‘typical driver’ of his era…
@mikehumble1120Ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant 👍
@michaelmills2263Ай бұрын
Great Video, thank you for sharing.
@andy81e122 ай бұрын
His last ever drive probably just wanted to drive it on his own tbh.
@derektaylor29412 ай бұрын
A symphony orchastra cunningly disguised as a large diesel engine. There is no finer sound than a well tuned Valenta.
@ttvvideos20503 ай бұрын
how old were you at the time
@robertmorley97483 ай бұрын
I’d guess @30 ish
@Gus0898uk3 ай бұрын
Where's The Emirates? :) Thanks for the video, proper blokes driving proper trains.
@robertmorley97483 ай бұрын
I feel I should know the relevance of the ‘Emirates’ comment … but can’t think 🙂
@robertmorley97483 ай бұрын
... the Football ground !! - Im not as sharp as i used to be 😆
@SuperSuperAllons93Ай бұрын
The Emirates wasn't built until about 9 years later.
@TrenyCwm4 ай бұрын
130 lush!
@andrewbrown6786Ай бұрын
But was it? Speedo’s were not guaranteed as spot on - wonder what the back end speedo was showing? EMU’s can often be found with speedo’s showing different figures at each end - only about 5mph, but between back and front could amount to a 10mph difference 😮
@TrenyCwmАй бұрын
@@andrewbrown6786 So it could even be 140.
@andrewbrown6786Ай бұрын
@@TrenyCwm yes - that is also true…
@TheMysticDave5 ай бұрын
Legend.
@scott53196 ай бұрын
Great video Rob. Thanks for sharing, takes me back to the good old days
@Mike-kc8rl11 ай бұрын
How many years service i wonder? Must be really sad to end a career on the foot plate?
@robertmorley974811 ай бұрын
He had 50 yrs service in to the day . He was happy to finish as working conditions had changed a lot over his career. 🙂
@Mike-kc8rl11 ай бұрын
Good to know thanks .
@derektaylor29412 ай бұрын
@@robertmorley9748 my Dad was a KX based Traction Inspector and he knew your Dad; he had a very high regard for him. Like him he had a long career on BR, actually starting work for the original LNER not long before Nationalisation. He said the same thing- working conditions were changing and that is why I didn't follow him onto BR. But it brings back memories of time in the back of the cab leaving Kings Cross- even years later there was something special about the start of that particular journey that no other journey- be it UK or the Orient Express or any of the long distance Amtraks- nothing can beat a HST out of KX. Thank you for sharing the video.
@davee4508Ай бұрын
@derektaylor2941 I am a Driver on XC at Cambridge. I knew a few KX Drivers in the early 90s when I was a Trainman D on the RES cl47s. I was into Aviation back then and ask your Dad if he remembers D Neville, M Humberstone and L Chung? D Neville long retired but I believe the other two are still Drivers? Cheers
@robertmorley974829 күн бұрын
@@davee4508 Sadly my Dad passed away in 2000 at the age of only 70 . A life well lived though ... :)
@ChangesOneTim Жыл бұрын
Aah, the days when you could put them in notch five before the rear power car had cleared the platform! 😂
@derektaylor29412 ай бұрын
You wouldn't want to do that out of Kings Cross- unless you wanted most of the wheels in the dirt.
@ChangesOneTim2 ай бұрын
@@derektaylor2941 Obvs it all depended on where you were. KX station in those days was 15 max all lines and certain other stations have/had 15/20/25/30 pointwork. But starting away from the rest of them (as shown at 05:30)...drivers could pile it all on if they needed to make up a bit of time😊
@derektaylor29412 ай бұрын
@@ChangesOneTim are you a HST driver? I'm not and I admit it. But I did work at KX assisting the area Traction Inspectors with admin work and I distinctly remember one case of a driver disciplinary for using excess power even though the speed wasn't exceeded. As I understand it there was a risk with a HST set that if it went over slow speed P&C under high power that it could push it off the rails. But what do they know- they were only Traction Inspectors working under the operating instructions of Derby.
@ChangesOneTim2 ай бұрын
@@derektaylor2941 Me neither. Never heard that one before; it's not as though the track geometry was so tight as to cause buffer-locking as HSTs don't have them.
@derektaylor29412 ай бұрын
@@ChangesOneTim I am not an engineer but as I understand it: For any curve there will be a safe speed and a speed at which derailment is possible/ likely. The reason for this is well understood- the train has inertia and inertia means it wants to go in a straight line; the track guides it around a curve and the force is called centripetal (that's the force of the wheels resisting the rails). Too much energy (speed) and over it goes. The same principle applies on points and crossings- remember that KX (until recently) had a 15MPH limit, so that's fairly tight trackwork* again the same principle if there's too much energy present (in this case drawbar HP rather than speed) and the rails cannot counter it with centripetal force then over it's going to go. * In fairness, not all roads out of KX were so restricted. I think platform 6 or 5 COULD- though not allowed- provide the sort of departure you're thinking of. HTH
@Frostie3672 Жыл бұрын
Your dad had the best job in the world, always wanted to be a train driver as a kid & especially to drive the HST, so sad to think they are now a thing of the past & that valenta sound y is just so awesome! Closest I ever get to driving a hst is on a train simulator on my pc.
@robertmorley9748 Жыл бұрын
He did indeed :) - if you like the Valenta sound, look for the other video I took on the same trip in the Engine room !
@fatwalletboy2 Жыл бұрын
Great video.
@robertmorley9748 Жыл бұрын
Cheers, There's another video I took in the engine room too somewhere on my channnel :)
@rogerclark58693 жыл бұрын
Great sound
@stinker10000003 жыл бұрын
what is the high pitch scream noise heard near the end?
@thetrainsrock3 жыл бұрын
Brakes coming on. Sounds like they had the door open to the engine room, cause you wouldn't hear that with it closed as normal
@robertmorley97483 жыл бұрын
British Kid is correct , specifically its a Westinghouse DW2 control unit that uses 3 wires (from the brake controller) to vary the pressure in the auto air brake pipe that subsequently applies or releases the brake cylinders on all the vehicles in the set. 👍🏻
@213twinkle8Ай бұрын
The Davis and Metcalf E20 PBL was the quiet one. Discharged the brake at both ends for a rapid, uniform brake application, but recharged the brake only from the front E20. Also if memory serves, by placing the brake control past step three, or the rivet on the indicator, would cause the brake cylinder pressure to be above 2.1 bar and close the AC intakes, which stopped the pad smell from entering the passenger Coaches.... at 127 she normally automatically cut power, and on some power cars, I believe the first batch, the red wheel slip light illuminated. Just loved the Paxman Vallenta as well. What a piece of kit.
@robertmorley974829 күн бұрын
@@213twinkle8 it was the drop in brake pipe pressure that operated the FAD (Fresh Air Damper) on the Air Cons. This remained closed for 120 seconds after brakes were released. They stuck open a lot ... :) (ps it was E70 for the control unit :) )
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Listen to that beautiful Valenta engine, great video, thanks for sharing.
Kevin, look for the other video where i go in the engine room :)
This is it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/paWOrbV-eNiaY7w.htmlsi=kU6LUrwXVCd0FHwu
Under BR, driving trains was as good as it got, not just HST’s. Under PR, have to admit, it was a totally different ball game, and not something I miss. Never knowingly met Bob, but he sounds like a ‘typical driver’ of his era…
Absolutely brilliant 👍
Great Video, thank you for sharing.
His last ever drive probably just wanted to drive it on his own tbh.
A symphony orchastra cunningly disguised as a large diesel engine. There is no finer sound than a well tuned Valenta.
how old were you at the time
I’d guess @30 ish
Where's The Emirates? :) Thanks for the video, proper blokes driving proper trains.
I feel I should know the relevance of the ‘Emirates’ comment … but can’t think 🙂
... the Football ground !! - Im not as sharp as i used to be 😆
The Emirates wasn't built until about 9 years later.
130 lush!
But was it? Speedo’s were not guaranteed as spot on - wonder what the back end speedo was showing? EMU’s can often be found with speedo’s showing different figures at each end - only about 5mph, but between back and front could amount to a 10mph difference 😮
@@andrewbrown6786 So it could even be 140.
@@TrenyCwm yes - that is also true…
Legend.
Great video Rob. Thanks for sharing, takes me back to the good old days
How many years service i wonder? Must be really sad to end a career on the foot plate?
He had 50 yrs service in to the day . He was happy to finish as working conditions had changed a lot over his career. 🙂
Good to know thanks .
@@robertmorley9748 my Dad was a KX based Traction Inspector and he knew your Dad; he had a very high regard for him. Like him he had a long career on BR, actually starting work for the original LNER not long before Nationalisation. He said the same thing- working conditions were changing and that is why I didn't follow him onto BR. But it brings back memories of time in the back of the cab leaving Kings Cross- even years later there was something special about the start of that particular journey that no other journey- be it UK or the Orient Express or any of the long distance Amtraks- nothing can beat a HST out of KX. Thank you for sharing the video.
@derektaylor2941 I am a Driver on XC at Cambridge. I knew a few KX Drivers in the early 90s when I was a Trainman D on the RES cl47s. I was into Aviation back then and ask your Dad if he remembers D Neville, M Humberstone and L Chung? D Neville long retired but I believe the other two are still Drivers? Cheers
@@davee4508 Sadly my Dad passed away in 2000 at the age of only 70 . A life well lived though ... :)
Aah, the days when you could put them in notch five before the rear power car had cleared the platform! 😂
You wouldn't want to do that out of Kings Cross- unless you wanted most of the wheels in the dirt.
@@derektaylor2941 Obvs it all depended on where you were. KX station in those days was 15 max all lines and certain other stations have/had 15/20/25/30 pointwork. But starting away from the rest of them (as shown at 05:30)...drivers could pile it all on if they needed to make up a bit of time😊
@@ChangesOneTim are you a HST driver? I'm not and I admit it. But I did work at KX assisting the area Traction Inspectors with admin work and I distinctly remember one case of a driver disciplinary for using excess power even though the speed wasn't exceeded. As I understand it there was a risk with a HST set that if it went over slow speed P&C under high power that it could push it off the rails. But what do they know- they were only Traction Inspectors working under the operating instructions of Derby.
@@derektaylor2941 Me neither. Never heard that one before; it's not as though the track geometry was so tight as to cause buffer-locking as HSTs don't have them.
@@ChangesOneTim I am not an engineer but as I understand it: For any curve there will be a safe speed and a speed at which derailment is possible/ likely. The reason for this is well understood- the train has inertia and inertia means it wants to go in a straight line; the track guides it around a curve and the force is called centripetal (that's the force of the wheels resisting the rails). Too much energy (speed) and over it goes. The same principle applies on points and crossings- remember that KX (until recently) had a 15MPH limit, so that's fairly tight trackwork* again the same principle if there's too much energy present (in this case drawbar HP rather than speed) and the rails cannot counter it with centripetal force then over it's going to go. * In fairness, not all roads out of KX were so restricted. I think platform 6 or 5 COULD- though not allowed- provide the sort of departure you're thinking of. HTH
Your dad had the best job in the world, always wanted to be a train driver as a kid & especially to drive the HST, so sad to think they are now a thing of the past & that valenta sound y is just so awesome! Closest I ever get to driving a hst is on a train simulator on my pc.
He did indeed :) - if you like the Valenta sound, look for the other video I took on the same trip in the Engine room !
Great video.
Cheers, There's another video I took in the engine room too somewhere on my channnel :)
Great sound
what is the high pitch scream noise heard near the end?
Brakes coming on. Sounds like they had the door open to the engine room, cause you wouldn't hear that with it closed as normal
British Kid is correct , specifically its a Westinghouse DW2 control unit that uses 3 wires (from the brake controller) to vary the pressure in the auto air brake pipe that subsequently applies or releases the brake cylinders on all the vehicles in the set. 👍🏻
The Davis and Metcalf E20 PBL was the quiet one. Discharged the brake at both ends for a rapid, uniform brake application, but recharged the brake only from the front E20. Also if memory serves, by placing the brake control past step three, or the rivet on the indicator, would cause the brake cylinder pressure to be above 2.1 bar and close the AC intakes, which stopped the pad smell from entering the passenger Coaches.... at 127 she normally automatically cut power, and on some power cars, I believe the first batch, the red wheel slip light illuminated. Just loved the Paxman Vallenta as well. What a piece of kit.
@@213twinkle8 it was the drop in brake pipe pressure that operated the FAD (Fresh Air Damper) on the Air Cons. This remained closed for 120 seconds after brakes were released. They stuck open a lot ... :) (ps it was E70 for the control unit :) )