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Does this device count as the rapid shutdown?
My sales rep encouraged me purchase one to supplement the charge of my battery in the new EG4 18Kpv/Powerpro battery combo during a power outage where panels won’t give me an enough charge. The charger cable has cables for the chargeverter to a traditional battery, not for the powerpro. Can I get the proper cable?
Hi! This is how the cables come with the product, however for this application you can purchase these EG4 PowerPro Battery Cable Connectors - signaturesolar.com/eg4-powerpro-battery-cable-connector-orange/
@@SignatureSolar for my application and for almost $500, these should come in the box.
Want to give me one to put in for my parents? I’ll make a full vid 😂❤ maybe an outdoor wall eg4 battery also? Doesn’t hurt to ask 😂
And I feel most homes would need two eg4 power pros though so 16k not twelve thousand but please let me know
You're welcome to reach out to our affiliate department! You can reach them [email protected]! :)
@@SignatureSolar okay thank you very much, I’ll have my team start on creating a channel and in a few months look forward to working together on some projects
what about if I have a flat roof and I need a 10º angle on my panels how can I achieve this layout
The SnapNrack does not allow for a degree change
and if you happen to screw up by crimping or clipping the wrong plastic end onto a metal connector, it's permanent. You have to cut the whole thing off and start over. Now there's wasted cable and connector.
You’re absolutely right-if an MC4 connector is not installed correctly, it often requires starting over by cutting it off and redoing the connection. This can be frustrating, which is why we created this video to help guide you through the process step by step. Our goal is to provide clear instructions and tips to minimize mistakes and ensure a successful installation.
When opening the liquid valve its refrigerant you hear flowing.., not air😇
Which parameters are suitable for bulk voltage and floating on inverter with lifepo4 100ahr battery on 51,2v ? I already set bulk voltage on 54,7v and floating on 54,1 ? Is that ok ?
Hi! We reccomend using the specs for the lifepo4 battery - You can find them here: eg4electronics.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/EG4-LifePower4-48V-Spec-Sheet.pdf
question: Do electrical connections in 12000BTU 120v equipment not use a disconnect switch for the outdoor unit?thank
Not typically. You can use one but a 20A breaker will suffice :) The disconnect is typically for central AC units
Thank you for the details. I'm assuming that i would just need to install these are the PV module that is needed correct? I.e. i don't need to install it on all the PV module in the array of 10 solar panel.
That is correct; however, we recommend installing them on all of the panels to optimize their performance.
I love how they have a generator input that isnt really capable of working with most generators
CAN YOU RECOMMEND WHAT SOLAR PANELS TO USE FOR THIS 18KPV, TO GET UP TO THAT 20 KW OF PV POWER AND HOW MANY PANELS (PHOTOVOLTAIC/AMORPHOUS PANELS ONLY) ?
13 panels in series into each input will get you there - These would be a good option for you - signaturesolar.com/preorder-hyperion-400w-bifacial-solar-panel-black-up-to-500w-with-bifacial-gain/
Pretty good but only 1 test, and a very artificial scenario. I really wanted to see some real-world testing and measurements. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for your feedback!
only in 9000BTU 28.5?
The 12K has a SEER2 rating of 28.5 and the 9K is even more efficient with a SEER2 rating of 29.5
@@SignatureSolar I just bought one but it's the hybrid and you have a 😁seer2 rating21 I thought the hybrid would be more efficient, thanks for the video
Q. Is the new Chargeverter UL-certified? Inspectors, insurance, electricians increasingly demand all system components in off-grid set-ups be UL-certified, otherwise no dice.
Hi! The Chargeverter is not UL certified.
Wow, someone finally said how the transmitter communicates with then MLPEs; keep alive via power line communication. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful! You’re so welcome!
Marketing is good, support is not even close to CurrentConnect company
I've been looking into these a fair amount lately, and this video was a great addition to what I have gathered. Thanks for putting it together!
Glad it was helpful!
Yeah for $300,000 lol
its really helpfull vidio,carry on
Many many thanks
Given my solar system has Enphase IQ7+ Microinverters, would this 12kPV hybrid inverter with 2 EG batteries be a relatively simple install for an electrician? I'm hesitant to try and do it the myself.
Hey Kelly, you're doing a really good job with these videos. Hope that SS plans to keep releasing these.
Thank you! Lots more in the works :)
@@SignatureSolarAwesome.
Kelly really stepped-up Signature Solars marketing!
Thank you so much!!
I’m thinking about adding optimizers to my small off-grid setup to improve partial shading performance. I don’t need to make use of any monitoring features, all I want is for the optimizer to increase the energy yield of the specific panel it’s connected to. Can I hook up a Tigo optimizer between a panel and a charge controller and then have it do its magic without any other setup procedures? Does it work without an internet connection and without having to pair it to my phone? I’m looking for a stand alone plug-and-play optimizer solution for my system which only requires me to hook the optimizer up between the solar panel and the charge controller and that’s it. Can the Tigo optimizers be used in this manner, or do they require extra hardware and/or a 24/7 internet connection in order to work?
Hi! The tigo optimizers are plug and play, just connect them and go. No internet needed but if you'd like to look at the panels, you have that option with the CCA and tap :)
@@SignatureSolar Perfect! In that case I will pick up a few and try them out on my system. Thank you for your reply.
Presentation was OK, but that music was SO DISTRACTING. LOSE IT.
Thank you so much for your feedback! This is an older video and we have since made many improvements to our content :)
Cool, a Microinverter.
Hi Kelly, would it make sense to connect the inverter battery leads to both batteries instead to just 1 battery? (so that all batteries are the same distance to the inverter). Example: Connect inverter negative lead to battery 1, and positive lead to battery 2, then parallel the batteries with the paralleling cable as per usual?
Hi! -With 2 batteries - you can parallel them to each other and then run the cables from the master battery (the PowerPro has a 600A internal busbar that will allow this to happen successfully. Server racks or more than 3 PowerPros with a singular inverter, we recommend using an external busbar.
what a comprehensive review! thanks for all your work and input
You're so welcome!
Why not make the signal wire a plug and play like your competitors?
Great question! We will forward this to the manufacturer :)
Does the yellow model have the dirty power filter?
Yes!
This video is old, been waiting for equipment from signature solar almost as long as this video is old.
Hi Joshua! If you’d like to send us your order number to [email protected] we can look into this for you!
I purchased two 6500EX's when they first came out (18-24 months ago?) with the intentions of building a complete system. At that time, I also purchased four EG4 48v/100ah server rack batteries and 8kw of solar panels, all from Signature Solar. As life happens, all of these components are still in the unopened boxes and have simply been occupying a corner of my garage. So, as life continues to happen, I'm just now able to tackle the project. It appears that Signature Solar no longer carries these and I'm guessing that these models had problems or are simply antiquated now? Any advice, updates, or guidance would be greatly appreciated before I start building my system? Thanks in advance for any help
Hi! We have an upgrade program available to trade in these 6000EX units for the new 6000XP or 18kPV units. This would be a great opportunity for this situation. You can find out more and if you qualiufy here: signaturesolar.com/upgrade-program/?Upgrade-Program-2024&_hsmi=294141019&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8TXuIO6YZ3kkyUS_wMrraKv0kZacKAhvkYHpfVX2dhnlmDYvR_x7qibY-N_XiZAeur7Wv2L_oCPnOcZrmjUual1t1Jdsj5tQwI1ksjCDdf6I58gt4&fbclid=IwAR1B6AuaFX5Y8hxE0mfeV3Lgx2laKVCPtI9GzMzqyrb_s1mdrd1poc9qhs4
Nice video. Will this unit communicate with the Schneider Xanbus for SOC? My EG4 batteries are connected to the Xanbus.
Our batteries communicate to the Insight device, if the particular Schneider device uses only Xanbus without the use of the Insight home then no.
Bravo.....great idea.........now .......make it self washing.......they should pay me ......cheers
I’m confused about the minimum battery requirement for a specific load. Can I run a 2000W load with two LifePower batteries (48V 100Ah) and an EG4 3000W inverter?
You can run a 2000W load from a singular EG4 3k and 2 batteries quite easily, given that the load is a 120V load. The EG4 3k is a 120V inverter when its not in parallel.
8 awg and larger use non-crimp connectors. Best way to attach wire? Do I need to solder?
This depends on which line you're referring to - for PV wire its just a clamp terminal and the bare copper wires do not require soldering 99% of the time.
great video - would these work with tesla Powerwall 3?
No, these are only for DC solar panels.
@@SignatureSolar thanks for your reply.- Let me restate the question perhaps i have asked incorrectly. If I have Hyperion solar panels and a powerwall 3 for my battery backup for a grid tied system, could I add these optimizers to the panels? Are the optimizers compatible with Tesla PW3 inverter and Tesla gateway 3?
Why are you not crimping those cables?
what will this partnership bring to the table?
Hi! We will be launching some new and exciting products! Be sure to come back and check it out soon!
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Hi! Can we answer a question for you?
Quick question: why does the indoor head unit appear to be rather large? The size appears to be similar to a regular 18k btu unit
The Minisplit unit dimensins are: 33.1×8.1×11.6 in. - The 18kPV dimensions are 34.3×20.5×11.2 in - So it's quite close!
@@SignatureSolar Bummer, I was hoping to be able to use this 12k unit in my travel trailer, but I have only 32” for a super tight fit between some overhead cabinets. Thank you for your prompt response!
You're so welcome!
Wait don’t you have an identical one for outdoors as well? So I would say for both indoor and outdoor use!
We do have an indoor and an outdoor unit :)
is the charger needed because eg devices does not actually support generators.... even though it says a gas or diesel generator can be used?
Some generators produce cleaner sine waves than others. The chargeverter can clean up the dirty sine waves from generators, making the energy acceptable for the inverter.
@@SignatureSolaryes we understand that, but the EG4 devices that say they support generators should clean the generator output automatically. i've not heard of anyone successfully connecting a generator directly to an EG4 6000xp or 18k. I do appreciate your reply thank you
Why have a generator hook up on the 18K if you can’t use that connection and have to buy this ChargeVerter? Would like a list of generator that is recommended to use with the 18K.
I would love to see a manufactured, 120V AC plug-in cord for that charger ready to buy off the shelf. Without the need to make a dog bone or take off the end plug and rewire it.
Thank you for your feedback! We will forward this to the manufacturer!
I have 2 of these New ChargeVerters I purchased from Signature Solar after I had already purchased 2 6000XP's, a Rack of Batteries and a pallet of Solar Panels. The following info is Serious for Off Grid Customers. #1 You cannot use the communication to batteries when batteries are already connected to inverter communication making this upgrade useless. #2 Since you cannot start the generator based on SOC because you cannot use the communication feature, you are stuck with inaccurate voltage making this upgrade useless. #3 Turning On the ChargeVerter will cause your 6000XP's Inverter to Shut Down and Restart shutting down all your loads. #4 Why didn't they include a true battery charging feature inside all 18K, 12K and 6K so you can hook up a normal sized generator to each 6000XP, 18K, 12K etc and Not harm the Inverter or shut down the system when starting up generator charging? You could then run one generator on one unit or start another generator on the second unit etc as needed! #5 So they have upgraded the ChargeVerter with useless features, charged more for the unit and still have not fixed the problem of flipping on the Chargeverter Breaker Shutting down the system? They have had many All-In-One systems get damaged due to the lack of proper info to customers on this subject resulting in Damage. Customers hooking up a generator up to just one unit or multiple generators to multiple All-In-Ones not knowing that they must hook up Only One Generator to all All-In Ones in the system or you will have serious issues like phase unmatching which can cause all kinds of Damage. Or customers hooking up too small of a generator to their All-In-Ones causing shut downs, failures and damage. Or customers generator operating outside of the less than 3% distortion tolerance damaging their units. So this video is their solution which left out critical info? Only customer solution is to purchase additional ChargeVerters that we should not have to do and were not informed that we needed. Few people have large enough generators to satisfy their design issues. Only customer solution is to leave the ChargeVerters ON at all times so you can start up your generator when needed without the whole system shutting down and restarting. I am not the only one upset about this issue and EG4 has not replied to me at all. They should At The Least provide a fix for this shutting down issue and send that additional device or upgrade to all customers who purchased. Lets see if they respond to this comment?
yes. nicely stated thank you.
Thank you so much for your feedback! We will forward your comments to the manufacturers! 😊
Is it true that the eg4 charger has a better than .99 Power factor? I got that info from some data Communications power supply modules that are supposedly the modules used in this charger.
92% at 120v and 94% at 240v
@@SignatureSolar Those sound like efficiency numbers. What I'm asking about is power factor, how closely the current wave aligns with the voltage wave. Number is important for de-rating generators. The data sheets someone posted on the telecomm grade PSUs inside the EG4 product suggest it may be 0.99 PF, but I'd like to be sure.