We are a 4x4 advocacy group working to keep offroad trails in Colorado and Utah open. Public land roads and trails are the common thread holding all recreation groups together, giving us access to the backcountry. If you like to hike, mtb, trail run, overland, camp, fly fish, or drive 4x4 trails for recreation, your continued enjoyment of these activities is central to our work.
We work to keep these recreation assets open for you to use. We promote education, ethics, and stewardship for all public land users, and we have 14 adopted 4x4 trails in Central Colorado we work on and volunteer across the state. We also work with land managers as advocates for 4x4 trails and participate in land use projects to ensure our access stays open.
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Looked like a good day to be a cameraman. Great work you guys do for the community, really amazing.
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We aere there on June 26 ans it was deep
yep, it was 50" deep on the road when we opened the pass on June 30th.
I was at Mirror Lake on 7/11/24 also in a stock 2 door Rubicon on 33" and it was too deep for me!
That depth is no joke for sure.
Snorkel bros! Such great info!
I was hoping somone would get a laugh out of that. 😂
just got my non-resident OHV and it says the sticker must be placed inside the vehicle on the lower right passenger front window so its visible.....:/
I'd just put it wherever you feel is a good place. The most important part you have covered, you bought the sticker.
Thanks for the update. We'll be there in two weeks. Your work at getting trails ready and the reports to us is appreciated.
For sure! Have fun.
I wonder if it was H & H towing in Gunny towed that 4Runner away
I'll have to double check, but I believe the 4Runner was recovered by Gunsmoke towing out of the BV area.
Thanks for the trail report and water Crossing information. Im planning to run tin cup then up Antero to camp in 2 or 3 weeks. I love that area its one of the best in the state.
Thanks for watching. Have fun when you are here!
Great advice, both in this video and your previous one, for those of us less experienced from out-of-state. Viewer from Florida here, watching your videos in anticipation of future trip out there in my 4Runner. Looking at the bumper-stickers on the underside of your hood, I wonder if you may have previously lived in Florida. That "Moroso" bumper-sticker is identical to that of the very popular former Moroso Motorsports Park northwest of West Palm Beach in Palm Beach County. When the Moroso family sold the racetrack back in 2008, it was renamed Palm Beach International Raceway. It closed down for good in 2022. The track was a lot of fun. Everyone into cars, trucks, 4x4s, in South Florida used to go there. I still see a lot of cars around here in Palm Beach County with that exact same Moroso bumper-sticker that you have on the underside of your hood.
Thanks for watching. Funny you saw that sticker, lol! I have never lived in Florida but I have a friend who was into racing that gave me that sticker about 2 decades ago. My dad was into organized street racing back in the day and always put his product sticker under the hood instead of on the car. I started doing the same thing when I got this wrangler 24 years ago and that Moroso sticker found its way under the hood. Thanks for the background.
That depth is enough for a lot of vehicles to turn around and go back. It would be fun to volunteer to clear trails and things like that. Great tips that are often overlooked, about water crossings.
Why would they do that? Why would they ruin a trail and modify the terrain for something unnecessary?
@@huntere185 I'm sorry... I don't understand
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I will be there next week. Looking forward to it.
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Sweet, i am glad you guys have the ability to do what you do! It takes time and money to do this type of work
trails are not closed, you can still hike them.... Super psyched they are closing these and this has me motivated to help preserve more land from off road use. Cheers
The ROADS are closed, they were a road, not a hiking trail. You could have always hiked them and you are more than welcome to hike as recreation. However, public land is not for a select group and closing roads closes access to most users.
@@keeptrailsopen no one is being denied access to these areas just their vehicles, which is great for open spaces and allows wild spaces to be more wild. It’s ok to use your legs and the area still has an insane amount of off-road access. But since there’s way more hikers than jeepers we should probably close more of these “trails “. No one is being refused access to public land…
@@clintcasey314 you are confidently standing on a high place of moral superiortiy deciding what other people can and can't do. There are infinite variables that go into what people do on public land. The road system allows people to choose how to use public land for their situation. The roads (when they were all open) covered less than 1% of Gemini Bridges and Labyrinth Rims acrage in the TMP. You can spin it any way you want to fit your ideals, but one could say that the 2000 decision the BLM Moab Field Office made to eliminate cross county travel, and require all travel be done on existing routes did the most to keep the area wild and non-roaded spaces open.
@@keeptrailsopen I know that area well, have decades with land management and recreation in the region and specific area. That area is littered with roads, just look at the map. I'm not being superior I'm giving my opinion based on experience. I watched this and other areas get trashed by off-road use and don't appreciate people misstating that they are being blocked from this area just because sensible land management is being applied. Again... there are way more hikers than off-road users, land use should reflect that. Also one is mainly for the rich and causes a much larger impact. Poor people buy shoes, rich buy side by sides and trailers.
@@clintcasey314 ditto on being in the area and using the roads for decades and volunteering for stewardship. You keep talking in circles to justify your opinions with more opinions and moving the target. Now it's a rich vs poor thing... Not worth more converstion, good day.
So why not go run those trails and say "fuck you catch me if you can" to the schmucks tasked with keeping us out? There's only so many rangers out there to begin with...
We still have an appeal (and potentially litigation) with the IBLA, so we arn't quite at the civil disobedience recomendation. But who knows what the future holds...
@CORE Do you think Mirror Lake will be passable by mid-July? SxS on 35” tires.
We will be checking the depth again middle of next week and will update.
@@keeptrailsopen Awesome! Look forward to seeing the report. We head that way on July 12th and will be wheelin through July 19th. Hopefully by the 18th or 19th the lake is passable.
Thank you all for all the hard work to maintain, open these trails for everyone to enjoy. Videos like yours bring so much awareness to the painstaking effort to keep these areas beautiful. I'm a native of Colorado, and have 4 wheeled some of these trails in the late 90's early 00's. I currently work in MN and miss getting into the mountains. Thank you for the video.
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Appreciate this video and the work you guys and gals do to get these trails open and maintained every year. Thank you.
For sure! Thanks for watching.
we have had a local road with LOW clearance 11.5' here in a 180k person city for 50+ years and even with signs starting WELL before it and on a slow 30MPH limit road and big flashing lights 3 times PRIOR to going under the overpass every year people get box trucks, garbage trucks UPS trucks, RVs stuck under it...point being sadly I am not surprised when I see things like this in your video of people not pay close enough attention. . on an unrelated note thanks to one of your recent videos for the notice ordered a few days ago ---> (2024) - OHV Permi tValid Jul 02 2024 THRU Mar 31 2025
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Thank you!
For sure!
Gorilla glue and tire plugs got my SxS through Red Cone and Radical Hill one year. Epic trails up there for sure. This was in August and big drifts still
I love a good trail fix. Some of the snow cornacis up there are massive for sure. Thanks for watching.
Valid Point.
Is it time to ask for donations for road closure gates? It may be. 🥸
No more gates. It seems when a gate shows up, the excuses start to pile up as to why it should stay closed, unfortunatly. People just need to make better decisions.
I’m in the Mile High Jeep Club and I don’t think most people watching this understand what people like you and people that are in the club with myself what we do in our personal time to keep these trails open we don’t just get out there and shovel we fences we try to cover up places where people went off of trail. We put our personal time and effort into these things, appreciate you guys getting out doing what needs to be done I hope more people appreciate what we are all doing.
This is a great point, thanks for reminding everyone how much happens by dedicated people to keep our trails open. It's hard to quantify the hours it takes to build relationships with land managers, the planning, the meetings and then the implementation of projects to address issues or open trails for the season. I will continue to make that a focal point in our videos. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for all the hard work!
For sure!
I know exactly what you mean about people seeing tracks and thinking they can do it too, in 83 we had massive flooding in Utah, long story short a gravel pit here in town filled clear full of mud, once it dried up a bit, I skated my old Willys across the top. The next day, that thing was clear full of full sized pickup trucks, all buried beyond hope
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Solid work! Hopefully one day our schedules will line up and I can help too.
One of these days we'll get you on a project.
@@keeptrailsopenaugust 1st, I get personal days back. They have been of course making it hard to use them tho.
Thank you for all you are doing! Looking forward to doing Tincup July 23rd. Hopefully the lake drops down by then!
For sure. Have fun when you are here!
Same experience, same spot, 2014 in an FJC...Thanks for the memories.
Great info on a really unnecessarily confusing system.. but I'm still wondering why an unlicensed dirt bike would need to be registered rather than just buying the OHV permit. Do you have to register unlicensed OHV's and buy a permit for them? Would you technically be illegal if you had only the permit instead of registering it? It's like they designed the system to confuse and trick people!
Are Napoleon pass and / or Cumberland pass open all the way through?
Cumberland is fully open. Last I heard Napoleon was not open as of last week.
@@keeptrailsopenWhy is Napoleon not open yet?
@@Muffduster there is still deep snow at the summit on the Tincup side. Some machines have slid down the snowfield, but it's too steep to go up the snowfield.
Thanks for all the hard work guys. Thanks for the video.
Fore sure!
WHOS HERE BEFORE 1 MILLION?
Thanks for the trail reports! Does Radical Hill look like it will open anytime soon? That snowfield really looks big.
After today (July 2nd) the temps look to be going back up for an extended period. I would think it should be fully melted in 2 weeks.
@@keeptrailsopen great to hear that. Thanks for the info!
Thanks for all you and your organization do to help keep and maintain these trails! The updates are very beneficial.
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Thank you for all the work you guys did!
For sure!
Thanks for all the hard work and the great information
Absolutly! Thanks for watching.
Next time over Tomichi, I think I'm going to climb up and sign that boulder I winched off 😅
Send us a pic when you do!
@@keeptrailsopen more than likely you'll be taking the photo 😆
Thanks for the hard work organizing and digging out those trails. I've ran all 4 and they are Really Amazing trails !!
Thanks for watching! It's a special area for sure.
Thanks for all y’all’s hard work. As a 64 yr old Texan that’s vacationed in the backcountry of Colorado almost every year since 1985 I appreciate it. Multiple vehicles since the 1st time. Currently 2013 jkur w 232k miles and still going strong. I have always been cautious because I don’t want to be the guy that creates an environmental issue because my vehicle went off into the lake. Enjoy the scenery but drive within your abilities. Leave nothing but tracks in the road.
Thanks for watching! Have fun up here this summer.
6-28-24…The Supreme Court just overturned the 40 year old Chevron law… this could be huge for Moab and many other places!! A simple google search will explain the importance of this decision 😎
We have been following this decision since the arguments were heard by the high court. It likely will have an impact on our current litigation in CO.
@@keeptrailsopen Outstanding!
I like to go up with ya all sometime.
Stayed at Lottis Creek campground outside of Taylors. You can add American Flag to the list of closed places. It still has quite a bit of snow. And those trees on Napoleon are still there. Mirror lake is super high so even when Tincup gets clear I doubt you will be able to pass down to Taylors.
We crossed Mirror last year after shoveling the pass and it was over 40" deep. It's just depends on how the next week looks before the pass opens. You can watch the video from the Tincup opening last year to see the lake depth.
Great videos and content! I appreciate all the information you provide and all your hard work as well. I jut found your channel, liked and subscribed. Im glad i found it. I would like to ask if the following passes are open. miners loop, tincup, napoleon pass. Also, Tellurium creek, Schofield and paradise divide. We’re coming up this week. June 25th and staying for awhile to ride trails. We love to ride them as a family and my wife loves to hike and take pictures of the wildflowers. Any feedback would be appreciated and i look forward to watching more of your videos. Thank you again!
Thanks for watching. Tincup is not open yet, we might have it open on the 30th. Hancock is also not open yet. Telluriam will be open at least to above timberline. Some snow could still be present. Schofield is not open yet and I don't know about the Paradise Divide.
Thank you. Is Napoleon Pass open? I appreciate the report!
@@michaeldietz1223 the report from last weekend was that Napoleon was open almost to the top from the Pitkin side, but was blocked by several downed trees not far up from the Tincup side.
Thank you
Thanks appreciate your work and the update! 4th of July always seems to be the trigger!
Some might be open before then if get some shovels going!😜
@keeptrailsopen do you know anything how about the road connecting 747 to Shrine pass to get in to Red Cliff?
@@danharris5873 Wearyman Creek? The road that connects Ptarmigan Pass and McCalister to Red Cliff? That road has been reopened after temporary work to fix issues and we are working on a long-term plan right now for the future. Or is there another issue on the Shrine Pass side you are referring to?
@keeptrailsopen no that's the one! I'm sure now you don't drive through all the water which I loved! Thank you
@@danharris5873 there are still several crossings, but not quite like it used to be. The FS contractor put that stream back in the original channel to reduce problems so we could keep the trail open.
Nice work, #keeptrailsopen and Colorado Four Wheelers, thank you!
Thanks for the update!
For sure!
Thanks for the update. I’m coming to the Tincup area mid July and looking forward to it
Everything (except the Alpine Tunnel West Road) should be open by then.
Great updates as always!
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I love that Area so many cool trails. Thanks for the update.
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Great info as always
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