Commercial Forest

Commercial Forest

I am the General Manager for Commercial Forest Products out of Fontana, California, USA. We distribute and manufacture complex wood products including musical instrument tone woods such as Swamp Ash, Mahogany, Pau Ferro, Paulownia, Black Limba, White Limba (Korina) among many other species. Additionally, we offer custom millwork and custom hardwood flooring manufacturing. If your current suppliers are letting you down, hit us up. Thanks - Steve

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  • @randallmccorquodale3290
    @randallmccorquodale32904 күн бұрын

    Nothing better than a good Planer video!

  • @scottjackman6682
    @scottjackman6682Ай бұрын

    Thank you for the video. I recently acquired a phenomenal amount of mahogany wood. I m3an a shot ton. Very wide and thick. Some as much as 2.5 inches thick and up to 12' long and 12" wide. It had been sitting in a warehouse for the past 40+ years. It's all rough sawn. I have a couple planers,jointer etc. I need to plane some of it I guess to determine what type but I am leaning towards genuine mahogany based on what I have learned. Anyway thanks for the info

  • @MormonMustang_
    @MormonMustang_Ай бұрын

    My grandfather got caught up in the paulawnia craze in the 90s. It's a cool hobby wood but nothing to waste time harvesting. It takes a lot of care for it to grow as advertised. It's basically a hardwood weed.

  • @DavidPaulNewtonScott
    @DavidPaulNewtonScottАй бұрын

    Better woods of other trees grown by diasugi.

  • @thefreese1
    @thefreese12 ай бұрын

    I just finished a D-18 out of African Mahogany... the grain is almost tigered , and it pops out at you .. Its light .. but best of all... Its the best sounding guitar I own . In fact It rivals a top deluxe Martin with expensive wood costing thousands of dollars.. In both looks and sound . It's a great sounding wood ... with a lot of tone ....

  • @ScheltemaBoutiqueGuitars
    @ScheltemaBoutiqueGuitars2 ай бұрын

    I ordered a couple blanks from you guys and got it last week. The blanks look amazing and had a couple others on the go. I expect a 3lb blank. Love that I found a replacement to Swampash.😁

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest2 ай бұрын

    Great to hear. It takes such a beautiful finish and the final weights are usually incredibly light. Happy building! Thanks

  • @josephsnipes5168
    @josephsnipes51682 ай бұрын

    I couldn’t tell in the video, does the African mahogany have the consistent pencil marks or is it the genuine mahogany?

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest2 ай бұрын

    I typically associate the pencil lines with African more than Genuine. However, it's not a hard & fast rule. More of a clue.

  • @JonDeth
    @JonDeth2 ай бұрын

    The weight and density should make it extremely easy when it comes to musical instruments, but you broke it down perfectly with your expertise. *When it comes to guitars, if a guitar is sold as mahogany but you pick it up and it's lightweight, you know you have an African variety especially based on where that guitar was made.* Every mahogany guitar I own is dense and extremely heavy compared to other very popular woods, *but sometimes you get a mahogany guitar that is as light as basswood!* Typically, a guitarist used to mahogany that picks up a lightweight mahogany guitar will not be happy about it.

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest2 ай бұрын

    Thanks. I don't think we've ever had mahjogany as light as basswood but it definitely has a wide range of density.

  • @JonDeth
    @JonDeth2 ай бұрын

    @@CommercialForest yes I was exaggerating but there's still a sense of ridiculous lightness to some. I just got a 24-fret mahogany neck and body Alexi Laiho style V. It's so light it sort of feels like the wood fibers are aerated like basswood. The more I look at what graining is visible, pick it up and hold it in various positions the more I can feel it's certainly a Mahogany but an exotic breed like Khaya and the pieces in my guitar are somewhat light and it has a borderline hollow feel to both the body and neck. *I have to strip the paint and clearcoat off the neck today though so once I get to the bare wood, I'll be 100% certain about many things, not just the wood breed used!* Oddly, I have had some pear wood instruments, and this thing has greatly felt like one of those super strong fruit woods. The pearwood necks tend to feel hollow but there's almost no poring as I'm sure you know, and fruit trees produce some of the toughest lumber.

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest2 ай бұрын

    @@JonDeth We brought in some figured pearwood slabs a few years ago, One was 20" wide x 18 feet long. It was insanely dense. Needed a forklift to flip it over.

  • @JonDeth
    @JonDeth2 ай бұрын

    @@CommercialForest it seems like it would be an interesting experience and the instrument 1 of a kind top of the line, but I am in the Midwest and ordering specialty lumber is beyond my budget distance lol. Fortunately, I can get furniture grade poplar for under $20 to build most any size and shape body, so it'll have to do for now. Eventually, I will have my CNC mill doing most of the work, so the day may come I can get something exotic going on.

  • @gerardvriend729
    @gerardvriend7292 ай бұрын

    My question is: why did these plantations fail? Failing is not an option, but I see in Europe that they failed as well!

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest2 ай бұрын

    If I had to guess,, I'd point to a general lack of experience (at least with Paulownia) among the teams involved. Even under the best conditions, a harvest can go sideways.

  • @gerardvriend729
    @gerardvriend7292 ай бұрын

    @@CommercialForest that’s what I see around me! They try to grow them in Holland, but it’s to wet and to cold. Even 3 years old trees die! And not enough temperature to grow in the first year! You need a firm and tall trunk. For fineer wood.

  • @willdenham
    @willdenham3 ай бұрын

    I selected ultra-light mahogany for my LP build I'm ordering. I'm doing all the hardware myself. They have Honduran, but I am concerned about weight. I already own 2 LP's that are boat anchors. One is a Japanese built African m, and the other a 78' Gibson that lives up to 70's Gibson weight issues. Regardless I played for years onstage with it and became used to it. I want this new 59' spec build to reflect the weight of the original Gibsons, which were light. And just wanted to know what a lighter LP felt like. Honestly I can't tell the difference in sound of my Honduran vs. African mahogany guitars, other than their dramatically different pickups. Different fretboards too, one ebony and the other rosewood.

  • @holyperceval6310
    @holyperceval63103 ай бұрын

    fgs i miss the metric system :'(

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest2 ай бұрын

    I've definitely grown to appreciate uniformity of the metric system.

  • @DavidPaulNewtonScott
    @DavidPaulNewtonScott3 ай бұрын

    Light woods are dimensionally stable but not hard wearing. I would use it as a ceiling cladding.

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest2 ай бұрын

    Paulownia ceiling panels or a large mantel slabs make for a less-than-grueling install!

  • @nicholasgeorge7825
    @nicholasgeorge78254 ай бұрын

    That's sweetgum not eucalyptus. How do you get it in CA?

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest2 ай бұрын

    We've been bringing it in for a while. It's a beautiful wood.

  • @leeasbury7273
    @leeasbury72734 ай бұрын

    Andy, let us know when you develop the Custom "CandleCaster"! 🕯🎸🤘🤘

  • @1pcfred
    @1pcfred5 ай бұрын

    Wood is a natural product so you have to expect variations with it. That's the beauty of wood, it's all different. You want something all the same go buy plastic. They'll sell you that too.

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest5 ай бұрын

    +1 most woodworkers agree, generally speaking…but, that goes right out the window, when it comes to their own purchases!

  • @1pcfred
    @1pcfred4 ай бұрын

    @@CommercialForest you're lucky we can even still get wood today. The old timers logged just about everything worth anything. They had to live too. They also wanted the best they could get for themselves. Being there first they took it. We're left today with their scraps.

  • @alangerhard7118
    @alangerhard71186 ай бұрын

    Sometimes you just gotta use your words.

  • @nbarca
    @nbarca6 ай бұрын

    The two pieces you shown in the video brought two things to mind. First, that koa most often grows with lots of crooked branches and bends, which might account partly for those angles ... especially if someone is trying to salvage every inch. Straight trunks are out there and not all too uncommon but winding branches are more the norm for growth. Second, it's not too often that healthy live koa are logged and so it is often old koa which have fallen down which get salvaged. Hence, they may often have some rot associated with them.

  • @TVoltG
    @TVoltG6 ай бұрын

    I fill cracks and try to make them look like mineral or worm streaks.

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest2 ай бұрын

    great idea. Korina fills pretty easil;y, imo.

  • @SurfTheStreets01
    @SurfTheStreets016 ай бұрын

    Can this take stain? Just curious

  • @jmichaelhenderson1183
    @jmichaelhenderson11836 ай бұрын

    I have three acres of these trees I would like sale

  • @CAgram123
    @CAgram1237 ай бұрын

    You left out a lot about the qualities of paulownia wood. You mentioned lightness and softness, but there are others. The wood resists moisture, can make veneers with it, resists insects including termites and is flame resistent. The leaves capture carbon from the atmosphere more than any other tree in the world reducing a farmers carbon footprint. The leaves also absorb great amounts of nitrogen and when the leaves fall and mix with the soil a huge amount of natural nitrogen fertilizer is added to it. Makes a world famous compost for gardeners.

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest7 ай бұрын

    You speak the truth. I'm guessing you've used paulownia before???

  • @CAgram123
    @CAgram1237 ай бұрын

    I intend to grow paulownia on several acres commercially, as soon as I can get a water well drilled. The tree is ready to harvest in 5 years and grows back from the stump and can be harvested 7 times in its life.@@CommercialForest

  • @firozshah5928
    @firozshah592828 күн бұрын

    @@CAgram123 8 years commercially you should keep '

  • @grassabrutta
    @grassabrutta7 ай бұрын

    That is a really good video. I was thinking of growing about a hectare of paulownia and then either slabbing or quartering the logs. Would a guitar maker prefer (and pay more for) bookmatched quartered paulownia ?

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest7 ай бұрын

    Generally speaking, yes. However, if the logs are pithy, small or knotty, quartering them won’t help their marketability

  • @vernfisher7911
    @vernfisher79118 ай бұрын

    where can I GET PLANS OR INSTHUTIONS FOR SOME OF SAMLL PROJECTS

  • @there_is_nothing_here
    @there_is_nothing_here8 ай бұрын

    I just recently learned Gibson makes their guitars out of both mahogany and African mahogany.

  • @Sachrial1
    @Sachrial19 ай бұрын

    You don't hate koa. You hate its price and attitude of suppliers. But not koa itself. So... Your title is clickbait. Isn't it? ;)

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest9 ай бұрын

    You speak the truth!

  • @jeff1872t
    @jeff1872t9 ай бұрын

    Yo, can you get me lumber for guitar bodies?

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest9 ай бұрын

    Probably ..what are you looking for? Thanks

  • @jeff1872t
    @jeff1872t9 ай бұрын

    @@CommercialForest I'm thinking Ash. Can you get material at 2" thick? Alder would also work.

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest9 ай бұрын

    @@jeff1872t yes, we stock both. DM me on Instagram instagram.com/commercialforest and let me know the how much lumber you need & what to zip code. We’ll send a listing with delovered pricing. Thanks! Steve

  • @leegmoore111
    @leegmoore1119 ай бұрын

    great info but a fade to black every cut is super distracting and unsettling

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest9 ай бұрын

    Then you definitely won’t like the “star wipe” edit. Sadly, I don’t exactly nail it in 1 take 😬

  • @mehrantajdar9728
    @mehrantajdar972810 ай бұрын

    Thanks thanks you saved me

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest4 ай бұрын

    My pleasure. Happy turning!

  • @mehrantajdar9728
    @mehrantajdar972810 ай бұрын

    Thanks thanks you saved me

  • @MirHass
    @MirHass10 ай бұрын

    I’m happy I stumbled over this video.. To the point.. Thanks, man..

  • @sanyoshovah2887
    @sanyoshovah288711 ай бұрын

    Is this wood too soft for making cabinet face frames?

  • @heidiondich632
    @heidiondich63211 ай бұрын

    Look at that quilting! 🔥

  • @maineterrain2154
    @maineterrain215411 ай бұрын

    Should we be doing this??? 😆

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest11 ай бұрын

    Yes…yes we should

  • @grantstewart5453
    @grantstewart545311 ай бұрын

    How well does black limba work for necks? Is it stable?

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest11 ай бұрын

    HI Grant - A lot of builders use it for neck, as well as body wood. I'd say it's similar to mahogany in terms of stability/density

  • @JustusVidyo
    @JustusVidyo Жыл бұрын

    wow

  • @doctorzlo6564
    @doctorzlo6564 Жыл бұрын

    What temperature's you used and for how long time? When roast tree?

  • @harp_stutts
    @harp_stutts Жыл бұрын

    I've heard the pencil marks called "rays" thanks for the info!

  • @johncampbell9120
    @johncampbell9120 Жыл бұрын

    Reverse roll quartersawing eliminates all your complaints.

  • @koamott1787
    @koamott1787 Жыл бұрын

    Hey why do you hate me ????

  • @prasadareddy1723
    @prasadareddy1723 Жыл бұрын

    Will it grow in southern India

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest Жыл бұрын

    That’s a good question. I am not sure. There are areas within North America where it does not grow well. In general, Paulownia grows best in warm areas with moderate humidity.

  • @Narwhy
    @Narwhy Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Loved this.

  • @TheFishShepherd
    @TheFishShepherd Жыл бұрын

    I used to go to school with your daughter XD

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest Жыл бұрын

    I asked her if she knew anyone from school, who was a big fan of his fish and one name came up….R___n! She said to say hello!

  • @TheFishShepherd
    @TheFishShepherd Жыл бұрын

    @@CommercialForest Hi

  • @charlesschuster7963
    @charlesschuster7963 Жыл бұрын

    Okay, if ya don't like it, you don't like your suppliers, the quality they produce, and all that... go out and grow some of your own. In the '70s I worked in a sawmill cutting koa - this was in Hilo - and we threw away anything shorter than 2 feet. I cockroached some to make surfboard fins, but knowing little about seasoning and drying, I soon found that the fins I made would warp overnight. I had to fiberglass them the same day I cut them. Well that worked for a while.

  • @helomech60
    @helomech60 Жыл бұрын

    Good tip! Thank you! Wish I had seen your video before I broke the tip on my knockout tool😂 oh well lesson learned.

  • @headamydick5909
    @headamydick5909 Жыл бұрын

    THANKS FOR BEING A "MAVERICK" MAN.

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest Жыл бұрын

    👏

  • @chasewilltin8567
    @chasewilltin8567 Жыл бұрын

    There is a public buildings maintenance department up the street from me. I'll try asking them, but they might or might not agree. Hope there aren't any regulations the city put on it. Oh, and thanks for the video.

  • @annesand7157
    @annesand7157 Жыл бұрын

    2:04 I have my parents old Koa furniture with the Anthurium carving. This furniture is older than my oldest sibling. My parents bought it in 1946. Koa wood furniture last a long time. I wouldn’t trade it for any of the modern junk they sell in furniture stores today.

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations. That’s awesome. Not many people have koa furniture these days. Totally agree… hold onto it forever.!

  • @rkielty11
    @rkielty11 Жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU SO MUCH I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR AT LEAST A HOUR NOW! GOD BLESS YOU FOR GIVING ME THE ANSWER!

  • @CommercialForest
    @CommercialForest Жыл бұрын

    My pleasure. I’m a big fan of Harbor freight but occasionally you come across a design flaw & the manuals are usually not very helpful.

  • @StickMan...77
    @StickMan...77 Жыл бұрын

    Great video ,thank you.