Another quick way you can tell if you have a fake, most of the arisaka pic rail mounts that attach onto the surefire bodies with the two screws, the post for the screws to go into the light body itself are not cut to the same spec as real surefire lights. None of my fake surefire lights will accept an arisaka mount because of this.
@KevinWood4411 күн бұрын
The KE arms is now $130 for one with an ambi trigger HAHAHA get real
@KevinWood442 ай бұрын
This helped a lot, great review.
@TophatOrange4 ай бұрын
I is quite accurate then, specially when the trigger pull will be done horizontally (not vertcall for your test) so the "weight" of the sensor will also be eliminated.
@Ohkayechill7 ай бұрын
Can I ask why your boxes don't look like any flashlight iv ordered from surefire?
@OOnti-dz4jd7 ай бұрын
Great video. This is why I ordered mine from the Surefire site.
@spencerchara32287 ай бұрын
They do that with benchmade knifes too
@2amichaelj8 ай бұрын
F**k Amazon. Don't buy anything from there. They are extremely pro gun control and liberal. I will chose not to do business with Amazon... ever because of this.
@Ethanseatingagain8 ай бұрын
You just helped China know what they need to fix 😂
@KiLLJOY10569 ай бұрын
Im hoping you could help me. I need to know if a Real Surefire, Or Arisaka E2HT FlashLight HEAD, will fit on the Fake Clone M600 Scoutlight Body. Since the body is basically just to hold the battery, we could save a lot of money by using the Cheap $20 Body, with a Nice Flashlight Head. if you can check, let me know please!
@artcobos213010 ай бұрын
Where can I get one
@Pozzer52810 ай бұрын
❤
@jaimecornejo2185 Жыл бұрын
Where can you get these? What buyer on amazon?
@ricknelson4764 Жыл бұрын
So many fakes on Amazon & eBay these companies should be sued
@shaocaholica Жыл бұрын
Both Amazon and eBay offer returns for fakes.
@elsoplaveleros Жыл бұрын
Metalcinia.
@RMVZ58 Жыл бұрын
great video, subbed
@MollyTheLag Жыл бұрын
way to bring attention to this, it seems many people in many markets are doing a similar tactic. I had no idea they would do this with surefire lights.
@chunlin6350 Жыл бұрын
fake fake fake OMG USA have FAKE SUREFIRE
@canoeshoe Жыл бұрын
Which size Zhukov is this?
@shaocaholica Жыл бұрын
It’s the short Zhukov in the video but this mod works for the long Zhukov as well
@phxamigo Жыл бұрын
Still available? thanks
@scopeeye4284 Жыл бұрын
Sorry sold out back in 2021. You can try AK Files to see if anyone wants to sell theirs.
@phxamigo Жыл бұрын
@@scopeeye4284 thanks
@centex7409 Жыл бұрын
Apparently Surefire doesn't care about their reputation or they would be actively working to stop these fakes from going into markert. It's starting to look like Surefire is actively supporting the fraud for some reason. As if they are hostile to civilians.
@reecewatson5311 Жыл бұрын
Thank you good info to have.
@12345678927164 Жыл бұрын
An item being faked is a great indication of how the original item is a great piece of technology and achievement for the certain industry they belong
@forestnfren8146 Жыл бұрын
Not really. Surefire is consistently at the rear of the pack in white light technology.
@12345678927164 Жыл бұрын
@@forestnfren8146 And yet the police and operators have carried them for over 20 years.
@forestnfren8146 Жыл бұрын
You say that like it counters my point somehow. All you need is brand recognition - which usually entails an initial government contract - then you can coast on that brand name instead of innovating or even staying competitive. Many such cases, in many various products.
@voler_192510 ай бұрын
@@forestnfren8146 to be fair, surefire is by far the most proven option when it comes to reliable rifle lights. Even then, with the turbo series of lights out now, it's not true, they are neck and neck with cloud and modlite, however their legacy light are still fantastic choices, they don't perform as well as cloud defensive or modlight(I own one and love it) but they are still the most duty proven. Both modlite and cloud defensive are known to have more lemons/issues than surefire, albeit their warranty will handle that, however I have never heard of someone I know or around me who had a surefire light fail on them that wasn't a result of user error.
@RedEyePergo6 ай бұрын
Trijicon and Eotech does that as well @@forestnfren8146
@madman-fr3rx Жыл бұрын
As soon as ppl agree to the PRIME conditions YOU FOREFEIT ALL ABILITY to try and pursue amazon for anything QC or FAKE related.... My friends house burned down because of a fake fan and he wasnt able to pursure any damage liability becusee he agreed to amazon primes terms and conditions. 9/10 sellers on amamzon products recieve ZERO quality control checks.. you can start selling stuff on amazon tomorrow out of your bathroom and qct luke u have a legit store.
@Gignowanafonicon Жыл бұрын
was the tan one real, looks like it has a roll pin.
@p47rr Жыл бұрын
Only problem is the rail is on a angle. Monopod points straight down. That why the factory one is tapered on a angle.
@shaocaholica Жыл бұрын
Was there a factory rail for the PRS2? When I made this video I swear I couldn't find anything but searching now I see some 3rd party options
@Nordic_Goon2 ай бұрын
I just wish I could find a prs2 g3 stock...
@clownshoe692 жыл бұрын
Too much waffle... Wheres the end result???
@mikehughes80232 жыл бұрын
This is why I only order from OP.
@SortoMario892 жыл бұрын
This is why I avoid buying from Amazon….
@PoopyButt72 жыл бұрын
I unfortunately got a fake one and had no idea for just over a year when I bought another and they weren't the same.
@kyledanger452 жыл бұрын
SO THE TAN 1 WAS REAL?
@HaiTran-fi1uc2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that the logo on the real vs fake is different as well, all 3 of your fakes on the table had a different Surefire logo engraving than the real one, but l guest that could be easily changed. There's white fill on the real one and the fake one does not have that color fill.
@neverman7772 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what the thread pitch is on the chassis-to-barrel screws?
@tonymao52812 жыл бұрын
Do you know if your fastener will fit the 12 ga JTS shotgun?
@scopeeye42842 жыл бұрын
No the 12GA barrel is too large a diameter compared to 7.62 among other things.
@jimmywolf552 жыл бұрын
Part of the reason I don’t support Amazon
@kevnitestalker85612 жыл бұрын
Good info on the video. Does the stock come ready to mount or are inserts needed to install it to the PTR91?
@ld12382 жыл бұрын
Buy NOTHING from Amazon. They do this with Leupold as well. So happy I have never ran into this..
@darylobey8867 Жыл бұрын
This is why am not one of those "i wamt a cheap deal" types all pay full price from a source that sells legit product i try to warn people that ebay and amazon are risky for geging somwhting you thought was good but ended up being shit :/
@RoofKorean17762 жыл бұрын
Awesome information, thanks for sharing!
@RoofKorean17762 жыл бұрын
Is that the 3" or 4" BT15 rail? EDIT: Never mind I see it's the 3" rail.
@chuckst982 жыл бұрын
Ok I don’t have a dishonest enough mind! Because I never would think to do anything like this! Buying a legitimate light and then buying a fake and returning the fake for a refund and keeping the real one!
@Gieszkanne2 жыл бұрын
What is espacially mean they dont cheat amazon or surefire but another buyer who will keep this fake light and pay for it.
@briankendall19782 жыл бұрын
Just don't buy on Amazon. It is not worth the risk.
@jarodthomas1122 жыл бұрын
Please please please make more of these! Name your price
@fabiangonzalez-cortes88942 жыл бұрын
They don't want you to know this but the M600DF's are free, I have 465 M600DF's
@shaocaholica2 жыл бұрын
How? 👀
@MilspecPanda2 жыл бұрын
Accept me as your student sensei
@centex7409 Жыл бұрын
@@shaocaholica Probably stolen or "misplaced" as overflow inventory from a federal agency. Lots of stuff suddenly becomes free if you live near a large military base and then get into "the market". Just watch out and be street wise: Hot DLA items will get the military version of FBI known as CID along with the FBI on you with a quickness. So you better learn those ins and outs before messing with any of it. But yes, legitimate deals on such items exist, inventory must legitimately get off that inventory and suddenly you literally have crates if weapons lights, body armor, uniforms, NBC gear etc.. For the cost of showing up somewhere and picking it up.. They even have auctions on bases for such things.
@Jasonz19192 жыл бұрын
How do they work
@cn45262 жыл бұрын
Hey, I’m interested in this, can you help or point me to the right direction, thanks
@scopeeye42842 жыл бұрын
Sorry but the vendor that did this is no longer in business
@michaeljames87902 жыл бұрын
Do you still sell the brackets?
@scopeeye42842 жыл бұрын
Sorry sold out of the last ones last year
@11binfantryfollowmeus.army952 жыл бұрын
Tan is real….100%surefire
@htr2die42 жыл бұрын
Interesting.. I am going to look for some of those fake ones and use on my kids airsoft AR's.
@harisyoung411010 ай бұрын
Why would you buy the fake one at the same price of the original ?
@notcxrlos2 жыл бұрын
Damn!
@keyhole96012 жыл бұрын
Technically speaking it's a fraud from Amazon???
@lamppost904 Жыл бұрын
nope just dishonest customers looking to take advantage of return money while keeping a real light
@mikem21322 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Scout M640U from Amazon, supposedly new. Just got here today. Label on the bottom says M640U and the box says “1000 Lumens.” Head on the flashlight says KE2-DF. Is that the duel fuel model? Also, the batteries were shaking around unsecured in the “unopened” box (I didn’t open it.) Any info would be greatly appreciated, these lights aren’t cheap. Thanks!
@scopeeye42842 жыл бұрын
Hope you didn’t pay too much. That doesn’t seem like it’s the correct head? I couldn’t find any info and that’s not a model I own. The best way is to send photos to surefire tech support. I’m done with amazon for these lights. There are vendors out there like raygunworks and dack that are better priced and don’t have fakes in inventory.
@mikem21322 жыл бұрын
@@scopeeye4284 I messaged Surefire and called Amazon. I haven’t heard back from Surefire yet, Amazon said they’ll replace it. If the next one they send is fake or incorrect, I’m just going to get a refund. I appreciate the video and the feedback. If it wasn’t for your video, I wouldn’t have looked so closely. Thanks!
Пікірлер
Another quick way you can tell if you have a fake, most of the arisaka pic rail mounts that attach onto the surefire bodies with the two screws, the post for the screws to go into the light body itself are not cut to the same spec as real surefire lights. None of my fake surefire lights will accept an arisaka mount because of this.
The KE arms is now $130 for one with an ambi trigger HAHAHA get real
This helped a lot, great review.
I is quite accurate then, specially when the trigger pull will be done horizontally (not vertcall for your test) so the "weight" of the sensor will also be eliminated.
Can I ask why your boxes don't look like any flashlight iv ordered from surefire?
Great video. This is why I ordered mine from the Surefire site.
They do that with benchmade knifes too
F**k Amazon. Don't buy anything from there. They are extremely pro gun control and liberal. I will chose not to do business with Amazon... ever because of this.
You just helped China know what they need to fix 😂
Im hoping you could help me. I need to know if a Real Surefire, Or Arisaka E2HT FlashLight HEAD, will fit on the Fake Clone M600 Scoutlight Body. Since the body is basically just to hold the battery, we could save a lot of money by using the Cheap $20 Body, with a Nice Flashlight Head. if you can check, let me know please!
Where can I get one
❤
Where can you get these? What buyer on amazon?
So many fakes on Amazon & eBay these companies should be sued
Both Amazon and eBay offer returns for fakes.
Metalcinia.
great video, subbed
way to bring attention to this, it seems many people in many markets are doing a similar tactic. I had no idea they would do this with surefire lights.
fake fake fake OMG USA have FAKE SUREFIRE
Which size Zhukov is this?
It’s the short Zhukov in the video but this mod works for the long Zhukov as well
Still available? thanks
Sorry sold out back in 2021. You can try AK Files to see if anyone wants to sell theirs.
@@scopeeye4284 thanks
Apparently Surefire doesn't care about their reputation or they would be actively working to stop these fakes from going into markert. It's starting to look like Surefire is actively supporting the fraud for some reason. As if they are hostile to civilians.
Thank you good info to have.
An item being faked is a great indication of how the original item is a great piece of technology and achievement for the certain industry they belong
Not really. Surefire is consistently at the rear of the pack in white light technology.
@@forestnfren8146 And yet the police and operators have carried them for over 20 years.
You say that like it counters my point somehow. All you need is brand recognition - which usually entails an initial government contract - then you can coast on that brand name instead of innovating or even staying competitive. Many such cases, in many various products.
@@forestnfren8146 to be fair, surefire is by far the most proven option when it comes to reliable rifle lights. Even then, with the turbo series of lights out now, it's not true, they are neck and neck with cloud and modlite, however their legacy light are still fantastic choices, they don't perform as well as cloud defensive or modlight(I own one and love it) but they are still the most duty proven. Both modlite and cloud defensive are known to have more lemons/issues than surefire, albeit their warranty will handle that, however I have never heard of someone I know or around me who had a surefire light fail on them that wasn't a result of user error.
Trijicon and Eotech does that as well @@forestnfren8146
As soon as ppl agree to the PRIME conditions YOU FOREFEIT ALL ABILITY to try and pursue amazon for anything QC or FAKE related.... My friends house burned down because of a fake fan and he wasnt able to pursure any damage liability becusee he agreed to amazon primes terms and conditions. 9/10 sellers on amamzon products recieve ZERO quality control checks.. you can start selling stuff on amazon tomorrow out of your bathroom and qct luke u have a legit store.
was the tan one real, looks like it has a roll pin.
Only problem is the rail is on a angle. Monopod points straight down. That why the factory one is tapered on a angle.
Was there a factory rail for the PRS2? When I made this video I swear I couldn't find anything but searching now I see some 3rd party options
I just wish I could find a prs2 g3 stock...
Too much waffle... Wheres the end result???
This is why I only order from OP.
This is why I avoid buying from Amazon….
I unfortunately got a fake one and had no idea for just over a year when I bought another and they weren't the same.
SO THE TAN 1 WAS REAL?
I noticed that the logo on the real vs fake is different as well, all 3 of your fakes on the table had a different Surefire logo engraving than the real one, but l guest that could be easily changed. There's white fill on the real one and the fake one does not have that color fill.
Does anyone know what the thread pitch is on the chassis-to-barrel screws?
Do you know if your fastener will fit the 12 ga JTS shotgun?
No the 12GA barrel is too large a diameter compared to 7.62 among other things.
Part of the reason I don’t support Amazon
Good info on the video. Does the stock come ready to mount or are inserts needed to install it to the PTR91?
Buy NOTHING from Amazon. They do this with Leupold as well. So happy I have never ran into this..
This is why am not one of those "i wamt a cheap deal" types all pay full price from a source that sells legit product i try to warn people that ebay and amazon are risky for geging somwhting you thought was good but ended up being shit :/
Awesome information, thanks for sharing!
Is that the 3" or 4" BT15 rail? EDIT: Never mind I see it's the 3" rail.
Ok I don’t have a dishonest enough mind! Because I never would think to do anything like this! Buying a legitimate light and then buying a fake and returning the fake for a refund and keeping the real one!
What is espacially mean they dont cheat amazon or surefire but another buyer who will keep this fake light and pay for it.
Just don't buy on Amazon. It is not worth the risk.
Please please please make more of these! Name your price
They don't want you to know this but the M600DF's are free, I have 465 M600DF's
How? 👀
Accept me as your student sensei
@@shaocaholica Probably stolen or "misplaced" as overflow inventory from a federal agency. Lots of stuff suddenly becomes free if you live near a large military base and then get into "the market". Just watch out and be street wise: Hot DLA items will get the military version of FBI known as CID along with the FBI on you with a quickness. So you better learn those ins and outs before messing with any of it. But yes, legitimate deals on such items exist, inventory must legitimately get off that inventory and suddenly you literally have crates if weapons lights, body armor, uniforms, NBC gear etc.. For the cost of showing up somewhere and picking it up.. They even have auctions on bases for such things.
How do they work
Hey, I’m interested in this, can you help or point me to the right direction, thanks
Sorry but the vendor that did this is no longer in business
Do you still sell the brackets?
Sorry sold out of the last ones last year
Tan is real….100%surefire
Interesting.. I am going to look for some of those fake ones and use on my kids airsoft AR's.
Why would you buy the fake one at the same price of the original ?
Damn!
Technically speaking it's a fraud from Amazon???
nope just dishonest customers looking to take advantage of return money while keeping a real light
I just bought a Scout M640U from Amazon, supposedly new. Just got here today. Label on the bottom says M640U and the box says “1000 Lumens.” Head on the flashlight says KE2-DF. Is that the duel fuel model? Also, the batteries were shaking around unsecured in the “unopened” box (I didn’t open it.) Any info would be greatly appreciated, these lights aren’t cheap. Thanks!
Hope you didn’t pay too much. That doesn’t seem like it’s the correct head? I couldn’t find any info and that’s not a model I own. The best way is to send photos to surefire tech support. I’m done with amazon for these lights. There are vendors out there like raygunworks and dack that are better priced and don’t have fakes in inventory.
@@scopeeye4284 I messaged Surefire and called Amazon. I haven’t heard back from Surefire yet, Amazon said they’ll replace it. If the next one they send is fake or incorrect, I’m just going to get a refund. I appreciate the video and the feedback. If it wasn’t for your video, I wouldn’t have looked so closely. Thanks!
@@mikem2132 update?