At what spring rate and rider weight? TIA! Ride safe
@patrixdan2661 Жыл бұрын
Spring rate is 400 and I weigh around 80 kg.
@DjMTB76 Жыл бұрын
Planning to go coil on my Rallon. How do you like it? What coil are you using? And bike size.
@patrixdan2661 Жыл бұрын
@@DjMTB76 I like it more than air. The bike is calmer but still pops. It's a super deluxe ultimate coil and it is a 2021 Rallon in XL almost same geometry as the current model in size L. I am 180 cm tall.
@spy1948 Жыл бұрын
look how many rocks there are! i couldnt believe when they just kept on going into the forest
@patrixdan2661 Жыл бұрын
Yes, the terrain is pretty demanding on the suspension.
@mdmattmann Жыл бұрын
How does it ride with the coil compared to the air shock? Thanks
@patrixdan2661 Жыл бұрын
More composed. You have more control but it's not too numb. Every time I switched back to air, i tried to make it feel like the coil. Personally I prefer the coil which allows you to adjust low speed compression. I change those settings depending on the trail.
@mdmattmann Жыл бұрын
@@patrixdan2661 How does it effect climbing and general pedaling? I'm looking to keep my Rallon more versatile then a full on Enduro sled. Thanks again
@patrixdan2661 Жыл бұрын
@@mdmattmann It climbs good. You can use the lockout and on technical terrain the coil helps with traction. It also depends on the frame size the the saddle height. The higher the worse it climbs. I rode an XL with 180 cm and 85 cm inseam. The seatpost insertion was as low as possible and the saddle pushed as far forward as possible, so that the seat tube angle was maximized.
@mdmattmann Жыл бұрын
@@patrixdan2661 Thanks for your input. Looking forward to seeing more Rallon content on your channel.
@winnguyen443 Жыл бұрын
Once the housing market picks up , I’ll be selling my home so I can buy a Rallon!
@andreas_brunello Жыл бұрын
mega gut💯😃
@johnnyfountaine Жыл бұрын
curious where this is?
@patrixdan2661 Жыл бұрын
This is in Rabac in Croatia.
@hutxtme8325 Жыл бұрын
Did you used the long travel kit? Air or coil rear shocks?
@patrixdan2661 Жыл бұрын
I used the short and tested with air + MegNeg and coil. In the end I stuck with the coil. Makes the bike more capable. A 170 mm fork might also help but takes a little bit the versatility away and shortens the reach.
@AvnerFironMTBGuide Жыл бұрын
Purchasing levo gen 3. S4. Do u recommend buying the link?
@patrixdan2661 Жыл бұрын
Hi, regarding to your videos I would say yes. It would be better if you try first without and see if it fulfills your needs.
@AvnerFironMTBGuide Жыл бұрын
@@patrixdan2661 I am putting EXT shock in the rear so I am sure the suspension be amazing. But wonder if 160 rear and front, might be even better
@patrixdan2661 Жыл бұрын
@@AvnerFironMTBGuide nice choice. Of course, more travel is better on hard descents. I am currently testing 170 fork and 160. Didn't spend much time on it but so far I like it.
@mudspencer7411 Жыл бұрын
Nice Video!! How does the bike perform on the fast rough chunky parts?
@patrixdan2661 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! With the Lyrik ultimate und the superdeluxe coil in back with a 62,5 mm stroke there were no problems on the rougher parts. It lost some speed in the flat parts because the 27,5 back wheel got hung up. On the other side the smaller wheel lowered the bike which felt better in corners and made it more playful. On Friday I rode the the same trail on a ripmo with an air shock and cascade components link and in comparison the Rallon felt better on the rough stuff. More in control and it felt faster.
@mudspencer7411 Жыл бұрын
@@patrixdan2661 Thanks for your helpful answer!!! Good to hear some real live experience on trails i can relate to. Keep shredding and posting videos!!
@fabiandeubel65 Жыл бұрын
Welchen Cascade Link hast du verbaut und wie macht er sich bemerkbar?
@patrixdan2661 Жыл бұрын
Den regular link. Mehr Progression und fühlt sich nach etwas mehr Federweg an. Fahre jetzt mit coil und bei 25% sag weniger Durchschläge.
@mdmattmann2 жыл бұрын
How do you like the Rallon?
@patrixdan26612 жыл бұрын
Hallo, das Rad ist gut und schnell, braucht aber eine gewisse Eingewöhnung. Mittlerweile fahre ich es als Mullet. Grüße
@patrixdan26612 жыл бұрын
Hi, the bike is good and fast. It takes a while to get used to it. Currently I'm riding it as a Mullet bike. Cheers!
@patrixdan26612 жыл бұрын
I am 180 cm and riding a 2021 XL frame.
@mdmattmann2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I have heard some people say the Rallon has excessive chain slap! What had your experience been?
@patrixdan26612 жыл бұрын
@@mdmattmann Yes there is some chain slap. But there are other bikes like the specialized enduro which are very similar.
@rm2005nz2 жыл бұрын
How do you find the cascade link assuming it’s just the normal one not the long travel one ?
@patrixdan26612 жыл бұрын
It is an improvement. The bike feels more progressive and it increases the travel by 10 mm with the stock shock 210x55.
@rm2005nz2 жыл бұрын
@@patrixdan2661 yeah have read the detail of it, was it a noticeable change? I’m thinking of getting one for my alloy comp am currently running a dvo jade x with good tune and heavy spring but want more ramp up as I ride the bike hard
@patrixdan26612 жыл бұрын
@@rm2005nz mine is alloy too. I only tried it with a progressive spring 500 to 610 lbs at my weight of 80 kg geared. No problems with blasting through the travel but it felt to deep into the travel at the beginning. Soon I'm going to to try a 550 lbs regular spring with 25% sag. The link will improve bottom out resistance and ramp up. Unfortunately I cannot tell how much because I haven't tried a coil shock with the regular link.
@rm2005nz2 жыл бұрын
@@patrixdan2661 I’ve got a 575/700 pound spring im 88kg I have 30% sag with standard link and a heavy high speed tune on shock I think it should be ok but was interested in feed back on it
@antoncvelbar62972 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! Was one battery enough to get to the top?
@patrixdan26612 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I haven't tried, but I suppose that yes. It should be around 1100 m of climbing. A 500 Wh should be sufficient without any problems if you weigh less than 90 kg and don't use turbo all the time.
@Big-O862 жыл бұрын
This is great video, what camera and mount are you using?
@patrixdan26612 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I was using the Gopro hero 10 black with the original Gopro chest mount.
@Big-O862 жыл бұрын
@@patrixdan2661 All of your videos are amazingly clear and crisp, you mind sharing your camera settings? Im using the Hero9….I think you would benefit a lot more using the “Stuntman” chest mount it’s a lot more stable with a thick plastic base rather than the gopro chest mount which uses the neoprene backing.
@patrixdan26612 жыл бұрын
Thanks, again. 4k 30 fps, super boost, 5000 K, color natural if I remember correctly. Yes, the same experience I had using the chin mount. You can have a look at the results in the Tschilli trail video. The light conditions were similar to this one but the trail is chunkier. Still the footage is more stable with the chin mount.
@juslookinatyas2 жыл бұрын
Thoughts?
@patrixdan26612 жыл бұрын
I'm not convinced. Using 2 spacers in rs super deluxe with 27% sag weighting around 80 kg. Still using full travel and bike doesn't feel glued or poppy. Will try a progressive coil spring.
@michaelgoodwin5932 жыл бұрын
@@patrixdan2661 interesting thanks. I did find the superdeluxe ultimate in stock tune sits well into and uses all its travel on a 2019 stumpy and the 22 levo. The X2 might have been a better bet. Still I'm 90kgish so will avoid this linkage.
@emtbtrailrider5392 жыл бұрын
Did I get the cascade Long Travel 165 mm u will need 230 x 65 shock
@patrixdan26612 жыл бұрын
@@emtbtrailrider539 that's correct. I got the regular one, so it's possible to stick with the 210x55 mm shock.
@emtbtrailrider5392 жыл бұрын
@@patrixdan2661 I just got mine, I got to put it on though the long travel one, still waiting on the shock
@bengonzales11822 жыл бұрын
Mountain bike videos = I subscribe.
@MrGeschmacksneutral2 жыл бұрын
Wo ist dieser Trail?
@patrixdan26612 жыл бұрын
In Südtirol bei Latsch
@IceT17345 жыл бұрын
what do you think of the bike?
@patrixdan26615 жыл бұрын
I really liked it. It jumps very good and has a lot of pop. It feels stable on loose ground (you can watch part 2 or 3 where I ride it on natural trails). The brakes were too weak and when riding steep steps I could feel the bike pushing down towards the valley. This might be a general ebike issue. Other than that I was really happy with it and couldn't stop riding it.
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At what spring rate and rider weight? TIA! Ride safe
Spring rate is 400 and I weigh around 80 kg.
Planning to go coil on my Rallon. How do you like it? What coil are you using? And bike size.
@@DjMTB76 I like it more than air. The bike is calmer but still pops. It's a super deluxe ultimate coil and it is a 2021 Rallon in XL almost same geometry as the current model in size L. I am 180 cm tall.
look how many rocks there are! i couldnt believe when they just kept on going into the forest
Yes, the terrain is pretty demanding on the suspension.
How does it ride with the coil compared to the air shock? Thanks
More composed. You have more control but it's not too numb. Every time I switched back to air, i tried to make it feel like the coil. Personally I prefer the coil which allows you to adjust low speed compression. I change those settings depending on the trail.
@@patrixdan2661 How does it effect climbing and general pedaling? I'm looking to keep my Rallon more versatile then a full on Enduro sled. Thanks again
@@mdmattmann It climbs good. You can use the lockout and on technical terrain the coil helps with traction. It also depends on the frame size the the saddle height. The higher the worse it climbs. I rode an XL with 180 cm and 85 cm inseam. The seatpost insertion was as low as possible and the saddle pushed as far forward as possible, so that the seat tube angle was maximized.
@@patrixdan2661 Thanks for your input. Looking forward to seeing more Rallon content on your channel.
Once the housing market picks up , I’ll be selling my home so I can buy a Rallon!
mega gut💯😃
curious where this is?
This is in Rabac in Croatia.
Did you used the long travel kit? Air or coil rear shocks?
I used the short and tested with air + MegNeg and coil. In the end I stuck with the coil. Makes the bike more capable. A 170 mm fork might also help but takes a little bit the versatility away and shortens the reach.
Purchasing levo gen 3. S4. Do u recommend buying the link?
Hi, regarding to your videos I would say yes. It would be better if you try first without and see if it fulfills your needs.
@@patrixdan2661 I am putting EXT shock in the rear so I am sure the suspension be amazing. But wonder if 160 rear and front, might be even better
@@AvnerFironMTBGuide nice choice. Of course, more travel is better on hard descents. I am currently testing 170 fork and 160. Didn't spend much time on it but so far I like it.
Nice Video!! How does the bike perform on the fast rough chunky parts?
Thanks! With the Lyrik ultimate und the superdeluxe coil in back with a 62,5 mm stroke there were no problems on the rougher parts. It lost some speed in the flat parts because the 27,5 back wheel got hung up. On the other side the smaller wheel lowered the bike which felt better in corners and made it more playful. On Friday I rode the the same trail on a ripmo with an air shock and cascade components link and in comparison the Rallon felt better on the rough stuff. More in control and it felt faster.
@@patrixdan2661 Thanks for your helpful answer!!! Good to hear some real live experience on trails i can relate to. Keep shredding and posting videos!!
Welchen Cascade Link hast du verbaut und wie macht er sich bemerkbar?
Den regular link. Mehr Progression und fühlt sich nach etwas mehr Federweg an. Fahre jetzt mit coil und bei 25% sag weniger Durchschläge.
How do you like the Rallon?
Hallo, das Rad ist gut und schnell, braucht aber eine gewisse Eingewöhnung. Mittlerweile fahre ich es als Mullet. Grüße
Hi, the bike is good and fast. It takes a while to get used to it. Currently I'm riding it as a Mullet bike. Cheers!
I am 180 cm and riding a 2021 XL frame.
Thanks I have heard some people say the Rallon has excessive chain slap! What had your experience been?
@@mdmattmann Yes there is some chain slap. But there are other bikes like the specialized enduro which are very similar.
How do you find the cascade link assuming it’s just the normal one not the long travel one ?
It is an improvement. The bike feels more progressive and it increases the travel by 10 mm with the stock shock 210x55.
@@patrixdan2661 yeah have read the detail of it, was it a noticeable change? I’m thinking of getting one for my alloy comp am currently running a dvo jade x with good tune and heavy spring but want more ramp up as I ride the bike hard
@@rm2005nz mine is alloy too. I only tried it with a progressive spring 500 to 610 lbs at my weight of 80 kg geared. No problems with blasting through the travel but it felt to deep into the travel at the beginning. Soon I'm going to to try a 550 lbs regular spring with 25% sag. The link will improve bottom out resistance and ramp up. Unfortunately I cannot tell how much because I haven't tried a coil shock with the regular link.
@@patrixdan2661 I’ve got a 575/700 pound spring im 88kg I have 30% sag with standard link and a heavy high speed tune on shock I think it should be ok but was interested in feed back on it
Beautiful! Was one battery enough to get to the top?
Thank you. I haven't tried, but I suppose that yes. It should be around 1100 m of climbing. A 500 Wh should be sufficient without any problems if you weigh less than 90 kg and don't use turbo all the time.
This is great video, what camera and mount are you using?
Thanks, I was using the Gopro hero 10 black with the original Gopro chest mount.
@@patrixdan2661 All of your videos are amazingly clear and crisp, you mind sharing your camera settings? Im using the Hero9….I think you would benefit a lot more using the “Stuntman” chest mount it’s a lot more stable with a thick plastic base rather than the gopro chest mount which uses the neoprene backing.
Thanks, again. 4k 30 fps, super boost, 5000 K, color natural if I remember correctly. Yes, the same experience I had using the chin mount. You can have a look at the results in the Tschilli trail video. The light conditions were similar to this one but the trail is chunkier. Still the footage is more stable with the chin mount.
Thoughts?
I'm not convinced. Using 2 spacers in rs super deluxe with 27% sag weighting around 80 kg. Still using full travel and bike doesn't feel glued or poppy. Will try a progressive coil spring.
@@patrixdan2661 interesting thanks. I did find the superdeluxe ultimate in stock tune sits well into and uses all its travel on a 2019 stumpy and the 22 levo. The X2 might have been a better bet. Still I'm 90kgish so will avoid this linkage.
Did I get the cascade Long Travel 165 mm u will need 230 x 65 shock
@@emtbtrailrider539 that's correct. I got the regular one, so it's possible to stick with the 210x55 mm shock.
@@patrixdan2661 I just got mine, I got to put it on though the long travel one, still waiting on the shock
Mountain bike videos = I subscribe.
Wo ist dieser Trail?
In Südtirol bei Latsch
what do you think of the bike?
I really liked it. It jumps very good and has a lot of pop. It feels stable on loose ground (you can watch part 2 or 3 where I ride it on natural trails). The brakes were too weak and when riding steep steps I could feel the bike pushing down towards the valley. This might be a general ebike issue. Other than that I was really happy with it and couldn't stop riding it.