All three of the children of Gertrude and Arnold Schoenberg have survived to celebrate the 150th birthday of their father. Remarkable!
@LionRex925017 күн бұрын
So precious.❤️ Such a wonderful recital! 👏👏👏
@bevaconmeАй бұрын
in 1900, stravinsky and bartok were still a couple of teenagers yet to be recognized as composers at all, let alone among "the most talented composers of the last half of the 19th century".
@fishylad85232 ай бұрын
shernber
@dominicguevara24452 ай бұрын
Classic ❤
@aloysioneves2 ай бұрын
Um documentário muito importante. O século XX trouxe mais dúvidas do que certezas para o universo musical, sendo por isso mesmo um dos séculos onde mais avanços houve na linguagem. O próprio sentido do modelo composicional é a relação compositor/ intérprete terminou por fragmentar-se, deixando o enigma de como escrever, para quem interpretar é mais anda, quem ouvir e extrair algum sentido… Diante de tudo isso, pessoas como Schoenberg são verdadeiros baluartes , faróis que apontam caminhos a seguir , mesmo em suas incertezas… 🌎🎶☀️
@AlexanderRadvilovich-bu8pg3 ай бұрын
Wunderbar!!!
@donaldmarcusjones8733 ай бұрын
Beautifully said, Larry!
@donaldmarcusjones8735 ай бұрын
Extraordinarily beautiful!
@user-kj4zt1kh7t5 ай бұрын
Greetings from Helene: You portray a sweet family today on the shoulders of your father, Larry, and have a peaceful atmosphere around you. Bless you, good people!
@arnieschoenberg7205 ай бұрын
The Prime truck is definitely the equivalent of Santa's sleigh.
@davidross76347 ай бұрын
Can someone please clean up the source tape? The hiss is charmingly nostalgia inducing, but I’d love to listen to it without struggling so much
@alessandroseravalle86747 ай бұрын
What a genius!!!
@Whatismusic1238 ай бұрын
He was a hack, a fraud who knew nothing, but pretended to know everything, he fooled entire generations of musicians
@garrysmodsketches3 ай бұрын
He certainly knew more than you lol
@larryschoenberg32539 ай бұрын
Iy you would like to listen to any of his works you can access them via the Explore Arnold Schoenberg website at eas.schoenbergmusic.com/listen/
@donaldmarcusjones8739 ай бұрын
Superb! What a wonderful introduction to your father's great music!
@fondazionearchivioluiginon9851 Жыл бұрын
Terrific😅!!! Keep on 🎉😮playing the violin, especially if you enjoy it. And send more videos. Love, Nuria I hope to see you someday either in LA or where I live in Italy! Love,
@BenedettaSaglietti Жыл бұрын
Grazie!
@donaldmarcusjones873 Жыл бұрын
How wonderful that this session was recorded, and how I wish there could have been so much more preserved of your father conducting, Larry, particularly on film! Hearing him working with these orchestral and choral forces is completely overwhelming!
@donaldmarcusjones873 Жыл бұрын
Without question, the most potent and soul-wrenching setting of Psalm 130 ever composed.
@donaldmarcusjones873 Жыл бұрын
The Schoenberg website you mentioned is superlative and provides the most comprehensive information regarding your father on the internet I can think of. Many thanks for the recommendation!
@donaldmarcusjones873 Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely magnificent! Your father is one of my favorite composers. Recently I acquired a typed letter he mailed to his friends on the occasion of his seventieth birthday. The letter is incredibly poignant and includes a hand-written "thank you" to his friend, a Miss Erna Gall of Wales. I treasure this piece more than anything I've managed to acquire over the decades.
@larryschoenberg3253 Жыл бұрын
Dear Marcus Jones. I too enjoy attending and re-living the Gurrelieder experience. I have often thought that an efficient way one could learn about and hopefully appreciate Schoenberg’s music is to become acquainted with both Gurrelieder and his opera Moses and Aron. I am glad to hear that you have acquired some Schoenberg memorability. You might enjoy perusing the Schoenberg Center website at www.Schoenberg.at
@donaldmarcusjones873 Жыл бұрын
@@larryschoenberg3253 Thank you so much for your reply, Mr. Schoenberg! I completely agree with you regarding Gurrelieder and Moses and Aron and will definitely visit the Schoenberg site!
@ManuelRequena Жыл бұрын
Hey guys! Im writting a paper and wanted to use Schoenberg's speech (some parts) as reference in it. Does anyone here know by any chance how should I cite it? Any link to the original material (year of, etc) would be greatly appreciated!
@ManuelRequena Жыл бұрын
I also just want to say that whoever uploaded this video rocks! Thanks for sharing this.
@garrysmodsketches9 ай бұрын
@@ManuelRequena it was uploaded by no other than Arnold Schoenberg's son, Larry Schoenberg! Look at the channel name
@susangreenberg397 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful family…happy holidays from Susie and Alan
@RandolSchoenberg90049 Жыл бұрын
Love it
@marcomarrone174 Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT. Thanks for posting.
@Dovith Жыл бұрын
Any relation with Arnold?
@larryschoenberg3253 Жыл бұрын
Great granddaughter
@JohnChernoff Жыл бұрын
Thanks Larry
@carlosenrique5299 Жыл бұрын
One thing is evolution and another degradation.
@kgroveringer03 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what the Nazis said about Schoenberg and his music. They called it "degenerate music", something you seem to agree on. I hope you're not some kind of crypto-Nazi?
@carlosenrique5299 Жыл бұрын
@@kgroveringer03Lady. Please... Nothing could be further from Nazism on my part. How do you come up with it?
@irabraus947810 ай бұрын
@@carlosenrique5299 Can you explain why you believe, say, Schoenberg's Piano Concerto degrades music?
@carlosenrique529910 ай бұрын
Indeed, Schoemberg's Piano Concerto Opus 42 compared to Boulez's Sonata No. 2, for example, is a delicatessen. But, what is the tonality of this Schoemberg Concerto? Music is mainly tonality: that is what gives it tension, intensity, delicacy, solemnity, sublimity and, in general, full symbiosis and communication with the audience. That is Music. Schoemberg, although he uses the twelve-tone principle of not repeating notes until the different 12 notes of the 12-tone scale have been exhausted, in the harmonic lines, he is forced to break that principle, which is why his "music" sounds "relatively good". in the middle of that maze. On the other hand, the dodecaphony is an impossible fallacy, since, if you do not want to stop repeating the series of 12 notes at any time, the piece would be an endless and unbearable series of streaks in the same order of said 12 notes, and that never happens luckily yet. The series, in its main line, are always altered and cause repetition of notes. On the other hand, imposing a mathematical criterion on an artistic process lowers the artistic to the extent that the mathematical grows. Mathematics is not inspiration and even less, when it moves away from the natural harmonic physical phenomenon, contravening any proximity to the most natural intervals. Certain atonal turns can be used to create tension, but always within a tonal discourse. When atonality is systematically and perpetually pursued, the tension fades, generating disorientation and chaos. A paradigmatic example of what I am saying is found in Schoemberg's own Wind Quintet Opus 26. No matter how much you listen to that Quintet or Piano Concerto you mention, you will never be able to remember a single "theme". In other words, neither the Wind Quintet nor the Schoemberg Piano Concerto are not memorable compositions. Yes, his Gurrelieders, his Transfigured Night, his Pelleas and Melisande, his two Chamber Symphonies and some other works are. The rest, as experimental works, have their undoubted value, but as artistic products they are not comparable to the works of his early days and a few other later ones. In those beginnings Schoemberg was on the road. A pity, for Schoemberg and for the Second Vienna School, the Darmstadt School and other spawns that emerged from the intrusion of the mathematical and pseudo-intellectual in the magic of the artistic process. What happens with the current sounds or with the features of the paintings at the present time is that it is no longer known for sure what has quality and what does not. If we followed the same process as "contemporary" painting and music, in the literary field, for example, we would not understand any written work. Labor contracts, works contracts, commercial contracts, laws, etc., would be unintelligible. In restaurants they would put us food whose composition would not allow us to clearly distinguish the flavors or taste anything. In furniture and appliance stores we would buy trapezoidal, ovoid and whimsical but barely functional formats, and the appliances would do the functions they wanted, not the ones we needed. In theaters they would show us movies without a plot and without meaning (there already are). In short, we would not know where we are going or what to expect. I do not extend more. I think I have reasoned the matter enough to make it clear.@@irabraus9478
@LearnCompositionOnline10 ай бұрын
@@carlosenrique5299music can be beautiful beyond tonality. The tonality is not destroyed by atonal music
@marconachenius Жыл бұрын
What an absolute musical gem for any composer, theorist, performer and lover of Schoenberg's music! God bless you a thousand times for this video! And god bless the compiler(s) of this video for including concisely notated musical illustrations!
@aginulfo Жыл бұрын
Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. Goosebumps
@Twentythousandlps Жыл бұрын
It is evident that all the musical examples were added after the fact to the recording of the lecture. I wonder what they are replacing? It would be interesting to hear the actual recording.
@larryschoenberg3253 Жыл бұрын
Have you seen the revised version?
@larryschoenberg3253 Жыл бұрын
Can you find Arnie? Even Julie makes an appearance! This clip comes from a 1970-71 (?) National television program “FIRST TUESDAY” on science education for the very young.
@neilsaunders9309 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the composer, Franz Schmidt (1874-1939) was the second cellist at the Viennese premiere of Verklärte Nacht. The work clearly stayed with him; you can hear hints of it in Schmidt's Fourth Symphony, composed 30-odd years later (which, while written for a large orchestra, has a chamber music-like delicacy of scoring): kzread.info/dash/bejne/c3113M2IZpPZh8Y.html
@dskinner6263 Жыл бұрын
In 1974, at age 15, I attended the symposium at Oberlin College in celebration of the centennial of Arnold Schoenberg's birth. Another world - I can now only faintly feel the sweet breeze of memory of what was, for me, a more hopeful time. May the events of 2024 bring joy to those who are able to attend.
@OntoDistro Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this overview of upcoming possible events for Schoenberg's sesquicentennial celebration. I will send you an email in a few minutes as I am interested in knowing more about the Schoenberg prize for innovation.
@r0hanhs Жыл бұрын
So full of life🥺🙂
@r2d2romo1 Жыл бұрын
Sin duda una referencia de lo que es el camino del artista/compositor... Todos sus esfuerzos naturales por justificar su obra y sus acciones y todo lo que lo antecedió, se resumen en ese monólogo final. De una forma humilde y clara expone el camino que vivió como parte del fin e inicio de una era. Admiro mucho su obra y su sentido laxo en sus obras. Un compositor heredero de su tradición y un aventurero por naturaleza.
@cireakaunrefined6049 Жыл бұрын
Schoenberg tried to impose an Apollonian order and control through these monsterous abstractions, all the while sounding Dionysian. Controlled madness.
@plekkchand Жыл бұрын
His music is incredible. But I understand it only in glimpses.
@galeritaelenora2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Thank you.
@bongcloudsignals2 жыл бұрын
thank you sir for this incredible document
@AbPanormo2 жыл бұрын
This is a thrilling document, and a great discovery. Thank you!
@AbPanormo2 жыл бұрын
This is WONDERFUL! Such a lark (I think I did pretty well).
@CliffordMartinOnline2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this upload!
2 жыл бұрын
Good job! 👏 👏
@Bahimo31542 жыл бұрын
Major husband fail 😂😂😂
@Bahimo31542 жыл бұрын
I believe in Bach and Shoenberg and Stevie Wonder
@bmaiani2 жыл бұрын
Hats off - the musical examples fit perfectly with Schoenberg's dialog
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All three of the children of Gertrude and Arnold Schoenberg have survived to celebrate the 150th birthday of their father. Remarkable!
So precious.❤️ Such a wonderful recital! 👏👏👏
in 1900, stravinsky and bartok were still a couple of teenagers yet to be recognized as composers at all, let alone among "the most talented composers of the last half of the 19th century".
shernber
Classic ❤
Um documentário muito importante. O século XX trouxe mais dúvidas do que certezas para o universo musical, sendo por isso mesmo um dos séculos onde mais avanços houve na linguagem. O próprio sentido do modelo composicional é a relação compositor/ intérprete terminou por fragmentar-se, deixando o enigma de como escrever, para quem interpretar é mais anda, quem ouvir e extrair algum sentido… Diante de tudo isso, pessoas como Schoenberg são verdadeiros baluartes , faróis que apontam caminhos a seguir , mesmo em suas incertezas… 🌎🎶☀️
Wunderbar!!!
Beautifully said, Larry!
Extraordinarily beautiful!
Greetings from Helene: You portray a sweet family today on the shoulders of your father, Larry, and have a peaceful atmosphere around you. Bless you, good people!
The Prime truck is definitely the equivalent of Santa's sleigh.
Can someone please clean up the source tape? The hiss is charmingly nostalgia inducing, but I’d love to listen to it without struggling so much
What a genius!!!
He was a hack, a fraud who knew nothing, but pretended to know everything, he fooled entire generations of musicians
He certainly knew more than you lol
Iy you would like to listen to any of his works you can access them via the Explore Arnold Schoenberg website at eas.schoenbergmusic.com/listen/
Superb! What a wonderful introduction to your father's great music!
Terrific😅!!! Keep on 🎉😮playing the violin, especially if you enjoy it. And send more videos. Love, Nuria I hope to see you someday either in LA or where I live in Italy! Love,
Grazie!
How wonderful that this session was recorded, and how I wish there could have been so much more preserved of your father conducting, Larry, particularly on film! Hearing him working with these orchestral and choral forces is completely overwhelming!
Without question, the most potent and soul-wrenching setting of Psalm 130 ever composed.
The Schoenberg website you mentioned is superlative and provides the most comprehensive information regarding your father on the internet I can think of. Many thanks for the recommendation!
This is absolutely magnificent! Your father is one of my favorite composers. Recently I acquired a typed letter he mailed to his friends on the occasion of his seventieth birthday. The letter is incredibly poignant and includes a hand-written "thank you" to his friend, a Miss Erna Gall of Wales. I treasure this piece more than anything I've managed to acquire over the decades.
Dear Marcus Jones. I too enjoy attending and re-living the Gurrelieder experience. I have often thought that an efficient way one could learn about and hopefully appreciate Schoenberg’s music is to become acquainted with both Gurrelieder and his opera Moses and Aron. I am glad to hear that you have acquired some Schoenberg memorability. You might enjoy perusing the Schoenberg Center website at www.Schoenberg.at
@@larryschoenberg3253 Thank you so much for your reply, Mr. Schoenberg! I completely agree with you regarding Gurrelieder and Moses and Aron and will definitely visit the Schoenberg site!
Hey guys! Im writting a paper and wanted to use Schoenberg's speech (some parts) as reference in it. Does anyone here know by any chance how should I cite it? Any link to the original material (year of, etc) would be greatly appreciated!
I also just want to say that whoever uploaded this video rocks! Thanks for sharing this.
@@ManuelRequena it was uploaded by no other than Arnold Schoenberg's son, Larry Schoenberg! Look at the channel name
Beautiful family…happy holidays from Susie and Alan
Love it
EXCELLENT. Thanks for posting.
Any relation with Arnold?
Great granddaughter
Thanks Larry
One thing is evolution and another degradation.
That's exactly what the Nazis said about Schoenberg and his music. They called it "degenerate music", something you seem to agree on. I hope you're not some kind of crypto-Nazi?
@@kgroveringer03Lady. Please... Nothing could be further from Nazism on my part. How do you come up with it?
@@carlosenrique5299 Can you explain why you believe, say, Schoenberg's Piano Concerto degrades music?
Indeed, Schoemberg's Piano Concerto Opus 42 compared to Boulez's Sonata No. 2, for example, is a delicatessen. But, what is the tonality of this Schoemberg Concerto? Music is mainly tonality: that is what gives it tension, intensity, delicacy, solemnity, sublimity and, in general, full symbiosis and communication with the audience. That is Music. Schoemberg, although he uses the twelve-tone principle of not repeating notes until the different 12 notes of the 12-tone scale have been exhausted, in the harmonic lines, he is forced to break that principle, which is why his "music" sounds "relatively good". in the middle of that maze. On the other hand, the dodecaphony is an impossible fallacy, since, if you do not want to stop repeating the series of 12 notes at any time, the piece would be an endless and unbearable series of streaks in the same order of said 12 notes, and that never happens luckily yet. The series, in its main line, are always altered and cause repetition of notes. On the other hand, imposing a mathematical criterion on an artistic process lowers the artistic to the extent that the mathematical grows. Mathematics is not inspiration and even less, when it moves away from the natural harmonic physical phenomenon, contravening any proximity to the most natural intervals. Certain atonal turns can be used to create tension, but always within a tonal discourse. When atonality is systematically and perpetually pursued, the tension fades, generating disorientation and chaos. A paradigmatic example of what I am saying is found in Schoemberg's own Wind Quintet Opus 26. No matter how much you listen to that Quintet or Piano Concerto you mention, you will never be able to remember a single "theme". In other words, neither the Wind Quintet nor the Schoemberg Piano Concerto are not memorable compositions. Yes, his Gurrelieders, his Transfigured Night, his Pelleas and Melisande, his two Chamber Symphonies and some other works are. The rest, as experimental works, have their undoubted value, but as artistic products they are not comparable to the works of his early days and a few other later ones. In those beginnings Schoemberg was on the road. A pity, for Schoemberg and for the Second Vienna School, the Darmstadt School and other spawns that emerged from the intrusion of the mathematical and pseudo-intellectual in the magic of the artistic process. What happens with the current sounds or with the features of the paintings at the present time is that it is no longer known for sure what has quality and what does not. If we followed the same process as "contemporary" painting and music, in the literary field, for example, we would not understand any written work. Labor contracts, works contracts, commercial contracts, laws, etc., would be unintelligible. In restaurants they would put us food whose composition would not allow us to clearly distinguish the flavors or taste anything. In furniture and appliance stores we would buy trapezoidal, ovoid and whimsical but barely functional formats, and the appliances would do the functions they wanted, not the ones we needed. In theaters they would show us movies without a plot and without meaning (there already are). In short, we would not know where we are going or what to expect. I do not extend more. I think I have reasoned the matter enough to make it clear.@@irabraus9478
@@carlosenrique5299music can be beautiful beyond tonality. The tonality is not destroyed by atonal music
What an absolute musical gem for any composer, theorist, performer and lover of Schoenberg's music! God bless you a thousand times for this video! And god bless the compiler(s) of this video for including concisely notated musical illustrations!
Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. Goosebumps
It is evident that all the musical examples were added after the fact to the recording of the lecture. I wonder what they are replacing? It would be interesting to hear the actual recording.
Have you seen the revised version?
Can you find Arnie? Even Julie makes an appearance! This clip comes from a 1970-71 (?) National television program “FIRST TUESDAY” on science education for the very young.
Fun fact: the composer, Franz Schmidt (1874-1939) was the second cellist at the Viennese premiere of Verklärte Nacht. The work clearly stayed with him; you can hear hints of it in Schmidt's Fourth Symphony, composed 30-odd years later (which, while written for a large orchestra, has a chamber music-like delicacy of scoring): kzread.info/dash/bejne/c3113M2IZpPZh8Y.html
In 1974, at age 15, I attended the symposium at Oberlin College in celebration of the centennial of Arnold Schoenberg's birth. Another world - I can now only faintly feel the sweet breeze of memory of what was, for me, a more hopeful time. May the events of 2024 bring joy to those who are able to attend.
Thanks for this overview of upcoming possible events for Schoenberg's sesquicentennial celebration. I will send you an email in a few minutes as I am interested in knowing more about the Schoenberg prize for innovation.
So full of life🥺🙂
Sin duda una referencia de lo que es el camino del artista/compositor... Todos sus esfuerzos naturales por justificar su obra y sus acciones y todo lo que lo antecedió, se resumen en ese monólogo final. De una forma humilde y clara expone el camino que vivió como parte del fin e inicio de una era. Admiro mucho su obra y su sentido laxo en sus obras. Un compositor heredero de su tradición y un aventurero por naturaleza.
Schoenberg tried to impose an Apollonian order and control through these monsterous abstractions, all the while sounding Dionysian. Controlled madness.
His music is incredible. But I understand it only in glimpses.
Brilliant! Thank you.
thank you sir for this incredible document
This is a thrilling document, and a great discovery. Thank you!
This is WONDERFUL! Such a lark (I think I did pretty well).
Thanks for this upload!
Good job! 👏 👏
Major husband fail 😂😂😂
I believe in Bach and Shoenberg and Stevie Wonder
Hats off - the musical examples fit perfectly with Schoenberg's dialog