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Fathers have a responsibility to sons until they reach a place of maturity(in the natural it would be an age) As a parent I correct but even when my correction may not be received well,understood,etc it doesn’t release me from the role of parenting! I’m responsible for you even in your immaturity and rebellion! If the son can’t dismiss the father, the father equally can not dismiss himself from the responsibility of the son EVEN in challenging moments.
@juliusdexter831233 минут бұрын
Anyone else lose sound at 54:40 of the video? I had no audio from that point to the end.. Ran it back still got sound up until 54:40 🤔 lol
@ChristianaChristiana81634 минут бұрын
I'm not fond of the way we use "spiritual father" today . I think the concept is often missed and abused, and I understand why Jesus warned and said in Matthew 23:9: "And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven."...............because many of us dangerously put men on pedestals, elevating them with the title of "father", praising and swelling their heads with pride...and have often set ourselves up for hurt and disappointment. Yes, Elisha was as a son to Elijah....yes, Paul addressed Timothy and Titus as his sons....yes Paul said in 1 Corinthians 4:15 "For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel". However, Elijah and Paul were indeed men of God. There are men today who want to be "spiritual fathers" without having made God their Father......active in ministry, but discreetly wicked in heart and deed....a case of Matthew 7:21-23. On the other hand, many of us are so eager to call men "spiritual father"...but haven't truly made God our Father either....we don't reverence Him fully and honor Him with full submission and obedience..........many of us have active ministries/proclaim discipleship but lifestyles are full of dishonor and lack of reverence for His Word. So, the actual father/sonship that must be taught and stressed FIRST is the one with God Almighty.....................because it's truly missing in today's Church. However, in regards to the topic, Bishop Jacobs is speaking much wisdom about loyalty and the inability to change spiritual fathers when there is disagreement/contention. If one is currently walking in the spirit of offense, he won't hear or be able to comprehend what Bishop Jacobs is saying. Just because there is contention doesn't mean it's time to run off and find a new "spiritual father". If that original spiritual father is indeed a man of God and hasn't fallen from the Faith and become depraved....but it's just a matter of disagreement/hurt feelings, then pray to God for the humility and wisdom to make it right. That goes for both sides.............but if you know the right thing to do, then do it whether the other party initiates amity or not. If your efforts of reconciliation are not received, then leave it in God's hands.......and continue being led by the Holy Spirit...but don't get caught up in pride or try to evoke jealousy by calling other preachers "spiritual father" etc....because then you're being led by the flesh, and such arrogance will set you up for disappointment and embarrassment. It's okay to embrace an advisor, mentor etc...but there's no need to be on the hunt/search for more spiritual fathers...focus on bieng led, covered by the Holy Spirit. You'd be surprised of the guidance, covering, upliftment that we receive from our TRUE SPIRITUAL FATHER alone.
@juliusdexter831246 минут бұрын
I agree. And our spiritual fathers have spiritual godfathers they trust to be a voice in their spiritual sons life. Connections come with your father. Connections come with your spiritual father as well. Meaning, if you're spiritual father dies, you have your spiritual godfather. If you're spiritual godfather dies then you still have other fathers(voices) of connections you've made and discerned(spiritually) that this is a trusted voice in my life that you submit to.....
@DouglasJewellСағат бұрын
This is pure GOLD!
@clarencecornish3333Сағат бұрын
Praise The Lord My Brothers I Look Forward To Listening To What The Lord Is Saying Through Y’all Every Monday This Week My Brothers Was Phenomenal Because God Is Taking Four Minds And Making Them One On This Issue “That The Church Becomes Healthy”!!!
@kimmiecrocСағат бұрын
I still have a seat at the table! 🔥
@_heresmytake2 сағат бұрын
Men of God, this was a rich, insightful, and hilarious conversation. This was awesome.
@tommydorsey90902 сағат бұрын
How do you know who or if your pastor that has been the family pastor is your spiritual father/mother?
@lanebingo2 сағат бұрын
I think Bishop Jacob's View on this is very harmful lol. If my spiritual father fell by the wayside in sin or crazy carnalism, I'd get a new one too. I'm not following someone to a fault AT ALL.
@akeemhenry72862 сағат бұрын
It would be great to hear this from the perspective of a woman as well.
@lanebingo2 сағат бұрын
Deliver Clack from Crack!
@ChristianaChristiana8162 сағат бұрын
That was Elisha who cried "My Father My Father" as Elijah was caught up in the whirlwind and taken to heaven....and King Joash called Elisha "my father" when Elisha died..........but I don't remember David calling Saul "father", although Saul was his father-n-law. However, in regards to the idea of "spiritual"Father/sonship", we must realize that predecessor isn't equivalent to father. Just because David succeeded Saul as king doesn't make Saul a father......to be honest, God TOOK the kingship from Saul and gave it to David. I wouldn't consider Saul to be a father to David....he never had the heart of a father towards David. Yeah, he gave David high ranks in the army after David accomplished assignments, .but he soon became jealous of David early on, and when that evil sprit overcame Saul, he immediately hated him. There was never the intention to pour knowledge/wisdom into David so that he could achieve and succeed. David was just a man of humility and honor period. He knew that Saul was King and also the father of his best friend/brother....he respected him at that sense...................but let's be clear, Saul was NOT David's spiritual father.
@zacharyweatherington5202 сағат бұрын
IT AINT LONG ENOUGH!!!!!!!!! Give us 1:15:00
@patriciag582 сағат бұрын
What happened to the sound toward the end?
@danrobinson99862 сағат бұрын
THIS PODCAST IS GOD SPEAKING THROUGH THESE FOUR MEN!!
@justinpaige20723 сағат бұрын
Brandon “And God” Jacobs lol sent me outta here😩😂😩😂
@TravisSimons3 сағат бұрын
What about the spiritual fathers that lack the ability to father bc they have never sat in the seat of a son? This has become a real issue. Going through ranks are essential to development. My father made me serve in capacities and not just enjoy the experience of being a pk.
@kiarabynum87532 сағат бұрын
So would they be considered a spiritual father? If they have never been a son, then maybe they are just a spiritual man, possibly a spiritual brother.
@502AP3 сағат бұрын
Great conversation❤it‼️ Pastor Green needs to pass that Louis Vuttion sweater on over here 🤦🏾🤣🤣
@JTolbert19903 сағат бұрын
Bishop Jacobs, it’s not always the sons being rebellious, we must deal with fathers who abuse and mishandle sons. It’s only fair.
@kishagreen45783 сағат бұрын
Peace and blessings, Pastors. ❤ I would love to see Pastor Johnteris tate apart of the podcast.
@godshandmaidenautumn3 сағат бұрын
This is soooo rich!
@Empowerment11113 сағат бұрын
Yo!! The sound went out the last 2 mins. We needed the benediction, but GREAT show as usual!!
@crashadcovington_music3 сағат бұрын
Pastor Green just be pouring his heart out and y’all be laughing so baaaad 😂😂 but you can tell it’s all genuine fun not an actual disregard of what is being said.. such a solid friendship 💪🏾
@blaque1113 сағат бұрын
Legacy isn’t location!!!
@empressemprass3373 сағат бұрын
Very good! Love the water bottle idea!
@YLCTV3 сағат бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@FragologistDre3 сағат бұрын
This episode made me go and apologize to a spiritual father all over again for something by the grace of God was already dealt with… powerful segment.
@johnsr00964 сағат бұрын
Love this convo🫶🏾🙏🏿
@tamibolton50794 сағат бұрын
What happen to the sound at the end
@ladyveejoy63194 сағат бұрын
Good Talk
@farrahlove8914 сағат бұрын
Oh nooo what happened to the sound
@Kaelynnsmommy4 сағат бұрын
It went mute at the end! These conversations are needed
@lashawnc4 сағат бұрын
Another AWESOME conversation!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@YLCTV4 сағат бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@astridbrown12904 сағат бұрын
It went mute 🤫
@astridbrown12904 сағат бұрын
Yes knowing and following God’s voice is critical in our Spiritual growth and connections with God sent Spiritual father’s /Mother’s that would impart empower edify and equip one’s life !
@astridbrown12904 сағат бұрын
Awesome Enlightening Conversation
@philw97874 сағат бұрын
Good talk
@lenniyawhitfield21664 сағат бұрын
rated MAM
@astridbrown12904 сағат бұрын
Say that ( God will Send ) Matured Men/Woman to father/Mother sheep’s ! Whewwww !
@cassandrathomas19854 сағат бұрын
Need more conversations like this DEEP
@astridbrown12904 сағат бұрын
Paul planted ; Apollos watered but God gave the increase … !
@astridbrown12905 сағат бұрын
Naturally and Spiritually we want the SEED to be greater 😊
@astridbrown12905 сағат бұрын
Yes talk about it . ( Is it possible for Season’s to change ) .
@astridbrown12905 сағат бұрын
True Sonship not bastards !
@chocolatefactoryinc15 сағат бұрын
"It aint the soil its the oil" Jacobs!!!
@astridbrown12905 сағат бұрын
That part ( Building Character ) from the Pit -prison-palace experience
@astridbrown12905 сағат бұрын
The danger also of fathers being jealous and envious of their sons/daughters anointing. ( Who becomes Spiritual Bullies ) .
@Danthomas8294 сағат бұрын
Big facts !! David and king Saul syndrome is a REAL THING!!
@astridbrown12905 сағат бұрын
Identity , instruction and inheritance ( Love it )
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Fathers have a responsibility to sons until they reach a place of maturity(in the natural it would be an age) As a parent I correct but even when my correction may not be received well,understood,etc it doesn’t release me from the role of parenting! I’m responsible for you even in your immaturity and rebellion! If the son can’t dismiss the father, the father equally can not dismiss himself from the responsibility of the son EVEN in challenging moments.
Anyone else lose sound at 54:40 of the video? I had no audio from that point to the end.. Ran it back still got sound up until 54:40 🤔 lol
I'm not fond of the way we use "spiritual father" today . I think the concept is often missed and abused, and I understand why Jesus warned and said in Matthew 23:9: "And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven."...............because many of us dangerously put men on pedestals, elevating them with the title of "father", praising and swelling their heads with pride...and have often set ourselves up for hurt and disappointment. Yes, Elisha was as a son to Elijah....yes, Paul addressed Timothy and Titus as his sons....yes Paul said in 1 Corinthians 4:15 "For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel". However, Elijah and Paul were indeed men of God. There are men today who want to be "spiritual fathers" without having made God their Father......active in ministry, but discreetly wicked in heart and deed....a case of Matthew 7:21-23. On the other hand, many of us are so eager to call men "spiritual father"...but haven't truly made God our Father either....we don't reverence Him fully and honor Him with full submission and obedience..........many of us have active ministries/proclaim discipleship but lifestyles are full of dishonor and lack of reverence for His Word. So, the actual father/sonship that must be taught and stressed FIRST is the one with God Almighty.....................because it's truly missing in today's Church. However, in regards to the topic, Bishop Jacobs is speaking much wisdom about loyalty and the inability to change spiritual fathers when there is disagreement/contention. If one is currently walking in the spirit of offense, he won't hear or be able to comprehend what Bishop Jacobs is saying. Just because there is contention doesn't mean it's time to run off and find a new "spiritual father". If that original spiritual father is indeed a man of God and hasn't fallen from the Faith and become depraved....but it's just a matter of disagreement/hurt feelings, then pray to God for the humility and wisdom to make it right. That goes for both sides.............but if you know the right thing to do, then do it whether the other party initiates amity or not. If your efforts of reconciliation are not received, then leave it in God's hands.......and continue being led by the Holy Spirit...but don't get caught up in pride or try to evoke jealousy by calling other preachers "spiritual father" etc....because then you're being led by the flesh, and such arrogance will set you up for disappointment and embarrassment. It's okay to embrace an advisor, mentor etc...but there's no need to be on the hunt/search for more spiritual fathers...focus on bieng led, covered by the Holy Spirit. You'd be surprised of the guidance, covering, upliftment that we receive from our TRUE SPIRITUAL FATHER alone.
I agree. And our spiritual fathers have spiritual godfathers they trust to be a voice in their spiritual sons life. Connections come with your father. Connections come with your spiritual father as well. Meaning, if you're spiritual father dies, you have your spiritual godfather. If you're spiritual godfather dies then you still have other fathers(voices) of connections you've made and discerned(spiritually) that this is a trusted voice in my life that you submit to.....
This is pure GOLD!
Praise The Lord My Brothers I Look Forward To Listening To What The Lord Is Saying Through Y’all Every Monday This Week My Brothers Was Phenomenal Because God Is Taking Four Minds And Making Them One On This Issue “That The Church Becomes Healthy”!!!
I still have a seat at the table! 🔥
Men of God, this was a rich, insightful, and hilarious conversation. This was awesome.
How do you know who or if your pastor that has been the family pastor is your spiritual father/mother?
I think Bishop Jacob's View on this is very harmful lol. If my spiritual father fell by the wayside in sin or crazy carnalism, I'd get a new one too. I'm not following someone to a fault AT ALL.
It would be great to hear this from the perspective of a woman as well.
Deliver Clack from Crack!
That was Elisha who cried "My Father My Father" as Elijah was caught up in the whirlwind and taken to heaven....and King Joash called Elisha "my father" when Elisha died..........but I don't remember David calling Saul "father", although Saul was his father-n-law. However, in regards to the idea of "spiritual"Father/sonship", we must realize that predecessor isn't equivalent to father. Just because David succeeded Saul as king doesn't make Saul a father......to be honest, God TOOK the kingship from Saul and gave it to David. I wouldn't consider Saul to be a father to David....he never had the heart of a father towards David. Yeah, he gave David high ranks in the army after David accomplished assignments, .but he soon became jealous of David early on, and when that evil sprit overcame Saul, he immediately hated him. There was never the intention to pour knowledge/wisdom into David so that he could achieve and succeed. David was just a man of humility and honor period. He knew that Saul was King and also the father of his best friend/brother....he respected him at that sense...................but let's be clear, Saul was NOT David's spiritual father.
IT AINT LONG ENOUGH!!!!!!!!! Give us 1:15:00
What happened to the sound toward the end?
THIS PODCAST IS GOD SPEAKING THROUGH THESE FOUR MEN!!
Brandon “And God” Jacobs lol sent me outta here😩😂😩😂
What about the spiritual fathers that lack the ability to father bc they have never sat in the seat of a son? This has become a real issue. Going through ranks are essential to development. My father made me serve in capacities and not just enjoy the experience of being a pk.
So would they be considered a spiritual father? If they have never been a son, then maybe they are just a spiritual man, possibly a spiritual brother.
Great conversation❤it‼️ Pastor Green needs to pass that Louis Vuttion sweater on over here 🤦🏾🤣🤣
Bishop Jacobs, it’s not always the sons being rebellious, we must deal with fathers who abuse and mishandle sons. It’s only fair.
Peace and blessings, Pastors. ❤ I would love to see Pastor Johnteris tate apart of the podcast.
This is soooo rich!
Yo!! The sound went out the last 2 mins. We needed the benediction, but GREAT show as usual!!
Pastor Green just be pouring his heart out and y’all be laughing so baaaad 😂😂 but you can tell it’s all genuine fun not an actual disregard of what is being said.. such a solid friendship 💪🏾
Legacy isn’t location!!!
Very good! Love the water bottle idea!
Thank you! 😊
This episode made me go and apologize to a spiritual father all over again for something by the grace of God was already dealt with… powerful segment.
Love this convo🫶🏾🙏🏿
What happen to the sound at the end
Good Talk
Oh nooo what happened to the sound
It went mute at the end! These conversations are needed
Another AWESOME conversation!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Glad you enjoyed it!
It went mute 🤫
Yes knowing and following God’s voice is critical in our Spiritual growth and connections with God sent Spiritual father’s /Mother’s that would impart empower edify and equip one’s life !
Awesome Enlightening Conversation
Good talk
rated MAM
Say that ( God will Send ) Matured Men/Woman to father/Mother sheep’s ! Whewwww !
Need more conversations like this DEEP
Paul planted ; Apollos watered but God gave the increase … !
Naturally and Spiritually we want the SEED to be greater 😊
Yes talk about it . ( Is it possible for Season’s to change ) .
True Sonship not bastards !
"It aint the soil its the oil" Jacobs!!!
That part ( Building Character ) from the Pit -prison-palace experience
The danger also of fathers being jealous and envious of their sons/daughters anointing. ( Who becomes Spiritual Bullies ) .
Big facts !! David and king Saul syndrome is a REAL THING!!
Identity , instruction and inheritance ( Love it )
The thumbnail was ITTTT 👍🏾👍🏾
This is Great 😊