Hi I'm Jen, host & founder of the YourParentingMojo podcast and a '23 debut author. While the podcast has been downloaded 3+ million times, I'm new to KZread. There's no lack of info about parenting. When I started, I longed for useful info I could trust - the kind seemed few & far between. 2 main principals guide my work:
1. Scientific Research
I look across the entire body or research on a topic
I point to the strengths of the research, as well as its limitations
I interview the researchers who are deep experts in their specific field
2. Respectful Parenting
Societal problems are perpetuated through the way we raise our children. Our interactions with them today (teaching them about race (or not...); telling our boys to "stop crying;" telling our girls to "stop being loud" shapes how they will treat others and expect to be treated in relationships. If we want our children to be part of solving the world's problems, we need to equip them with the leadership skills to do this.
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There are COUNTLESS well adjusted humans that have been spanked who have turned out to be much more respectful and high functioning adults than those who have been loosely parented and molded into snowflakes. Depends on who is doing the research. People will always find information to support their views. I was spanked here and there and in all honesty I was not and am not traumatized. I have rarely heard anyone say they are traumatized by being spanked. There is spanking and there is beating and they are not the same. We need to have conversations about what we need to do to raise strong, humble, and confident adults.
There should be tons of positive comments here for these brilliant women!
This is solid psychology and science! I raised both my children on this method and both are adults with a wide variety of food likes. Read and study her methodology and you will overcome mealtime struggles - this will NOT happen overnight but over time you will see a difference in your child's eating patterns.
Just in time since I'm dealing with this around me
This is really interesting. I have a very fussy child and I am always worrying about her health.
An excellent description and explanation. So helpful. Thank you for sharing.
You are not autistic.
Spanking is very worst and cannot enter into heaven
Yes
Your analysis was very helpful to my efforts to grapple with this very same subject. I appreciate your process and conclusion.
This one really connected with me. I’m not a parent, but I find many of your podcasts so useful for my work as an educator. Most days I witness at least one coworker yelling at a child, getting in their face, and doling out punishments. The children’s needs are rarely, if ever, taken into consideration. Similar to your compassion for your stepmother, I recognize that many of my fellow educators behavior comes from a place of their own overwhelm and frustration - not a genuine malice towards children. In the American school system it is very hard to get your professional needs met in a consistent way. Still, I see how this leads to children disengaging over time. Not just with school, but often learning altogether. School is something forced upon them in the first place. Plain and simple. In much of the US, kids have little choice throughout k-12 in what they are learning and how they are learning it. I so wish there was a “Teaching Beyond Power” spin off (or even one time episode) discussing how your philosophy can apply to adults working with children in professional contexts. The cultural roles of parenting and educating are a fascinating intersection. I’d be happy to share more of my own experiences and thoughts if you or your team would be open to chatting. Thanks for all you do.
Ok, this neil chap seems to have blocked me after telling me i dont know what I'm talking about, so my replies to him aren't posting, so I'm gonna say what i have to say to him here. 😂LOL, ok, neil-guy who apparently has swallowed the PV garbage whole hog... 1. No self respecting physiologist supports this hairbrained non "theory". 2. Predictive processing reduces the entire bag of PV garbage ideas to folk psychological nonsense. But hey, enjoy your steak while that ship sinks, 🍻.
Patriarchy will always exist. Matriarchy will always exist.
I mean most drugs have very little sound scientific evidence that they’re safe or effective and they’re used radically more than this theory is. Evidence in a lot of science often seems to mean ‘we made a study and lied with statistics leaving out critical variables by cherry picking results and many other means in order to get the results we want’. Everyone seems to challenge the results only when it’s an approach they don’t like.
Great! Thank you both!
Many who got spanked as a kid say they don't resent their parents. They grew up normally and well-behaved and successful in life. I was one. It's effective when done right and destructive in excess'. Obviously parents shouldn't enjoy spanking -but because they don't like to do it doesn't mean it's bad. There's good physical discipline and totally unacceptable physical discipline. Most kids don't need to be, and shouldn't be, spanked. However, nothing wrong with spanking strong willed kids for severe disciplinary infractions after other means are exhausted.
You raise some interesting points and I appreciate the level of detail. I wanted to address this comment: "surely if PVT were completely invalid, there would be an absolute dog pile of research from people anxious to disprove it." In reality, what I have heard from researchers is most could care less about PVT because to them it is so obviously wrong. They simply don't have the time for it.
For entertainment purposes only, I go back and listen once again. The reason Polyvagal theory is not falsifiable is that the science supporting it is derived from long established, well- substantiated facts in neuroanatomy, neurophysiology, neuroendocrinology and embryology. You are very confused. "The vagal nerve is not the 'cause' of social differences." The vagus nerve is simply a conduit. It is affect -reciprocal co-regulatory engagement (i.e., neuroceptive and interoceptive cues of safety or danger) that then results in shifts in vagal regulation and cardiac tone (e.g., RSA). Your quoting of Dr. Doody@ 1:15 , (his points) are risible to the point of utter absurdity. It stands as a laughingstock on the basis of facts. 1) Mammals did not evolve from "modern reptiles" that's correct but they did indeed evolve from a common ancestor to both reptiles and mammals. 2) It is both tragically sad and hilarious that you believe that reptiles are social like mammals. Reptiles do not engage in nurturing their young, nursing, grooming, playing, laughing; up regulating (affective states of joy) and down regulating (affective states of sadness or crying) through social-engagement. They do not down regulate cues of threat through social play and engagement. Because their oxygenation requirements are 500% less than the mammalian brain, they can without harm immobilize (i.e., feign death) when under life threat. The cardioinhibitory fibers clustered and migrated from the dorsal motor nucleus to form the nucleus ambiguus and significantly coordinate and inter-neuronally link with the five cranial nerves (V, VII, IX, X and XI) to form the social-emotional autonomic nervous system (the ventral vagal complex) of mammals. We don't need to turn to phylogeny but simply our owbn human embryology to see how our physiology and associated pathways ways form. Of course the brain was re-wired in mammals to express sociality and down-regulate defense (i.e., the migration of the cardioinhibitory fibers neuroanatomically linked and coordinated with the five cranial nerves mentioned and visceromotor pathways, sinoatrial node and bronchi forming the ventral vagal complex). That my "informed one" is a truism. It is not even in question! That is not a "just-so" story that is a phylogenetic and neuroanatomical fact! "Heart-rate variability is not the reason we over-react in certain situations." Heart rate variability and specifically RSA is a window, a measurement of the efficiency of the vagal brake, which reflects, key word, reflects ( NOT causes) how safe, unsafe or withdrawal/shut down we feel with others and our environment. You have it backwards. Cited in some 15,000 peer-reviewed articles. The theory is not wrong.
Neil, why are all your comments so acidic and aggressive when discussing this topic ? this is not the first video I find your comments on and it seems very personal to you, the way you address this points you are trying to make and the way you speak to some people in your responses. What is going on here ?
@@RaduP3 "What is going on here? Well for the life of me, I simply don't know? I am, alas, at a complete and utter lost! Perhaps some deep pondering or reflective supervision is in order? What you say? If you have something meaningful to say with respect to Polyvagal Theory and my comments about the theory then by all means do so! Otherwise, spare me! There are so many inaccuracies here and elsewhere, but most probably due to a lack of education on the well-established and substantive evidence in neuroanatomy, neurophysiology, neuroendocrinology and mammalian and human embryology, where Polyvagal Theory is derived. So speculations, assertions and doubts about what it is actually saying and its questionable status or legitimacy is enormously frustrating! Those who are misinformed either due to a lack of understanding of Polyvagal theory or in other instances, shall we say, should know better and thus willfully misleading (not here), essentially strawman arguments that have been completely and entirely debunked is not acceptable!
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Thank you for all your work on this. I’ve been wondering about the legitimacy of PVT and this is exactly what I’ve been looking for
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Can the Body change the Score? Yes, it can...depends on age and resilience, i guess. But the case histories of some of Bessel's patients and their recoveries are nothing short of miraculous. Dont lose hope!
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In "Choices to be Made", Bessel says "if parents are forced to work two jobs, or too impaired, overwhelmed, or depressed, schools have to be places where children are taught self leadership and control." I respectfully disagree. That is not the role of a school teacher. The right answer imo is: if you're impaired, overwhelmed, and depressed, DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN.
You are right when you quote the claim that is specifically not being claimed by Porges. I find that to be rather humorous. “Mammals did not evolve from (modern) reptiles.” However, they did indeed evolve from a common ancestor to both modern reptiles and mammals. Reptiles exhibiting “social behaviors” is even more humorous and voicelessly outlandish. There is no commonality, crossover or comparison. It takes the word, “social” and stretches it to grotesque and risible proportions . Answer this question: How do reptiles down regulate cues of threat? Do they use co-regulated (let alone present as part of their neuroanatomy, neurophysiology and neuroendocrine systems) visual-facial, auditory-prosodic and tactile-affect gestural cues to facilitate a return to ventral vagal safety and social-emotional engagement? lol Do reptiles groom, dance, laugh and play and get depressed? Do you know that mice do? (See, Jaak Panksepp)
Therapists do NOT focus on the vagus nerve. You are inserting a misplaced emphasis on the vagus nerve. The vagus nerve is a simply a conduit. The focus is on accessibility with respect to down regulating or up-regulating through co-regulation with another. Or simply stated, cultivating the underlying foundations of interoceptive-and-interpersonal (felt) safety with another which then “allows” for adaptive shifts, ie, from either dorsal or sympathetic-adrenal arousal (or combination thereof) to ventral vagal (social-emotional) accessibility. The focus is not on “hacking the vagus nerve” but on underlying dynamic healthy homeostasis-and-social emotional engagement. However, the phylogenetic hierarchy described is 100% accurate neuroanatomically and neurophysiologically. However, if that doesn’t suit you, you can turn your attention to human embryology. What roughly (from a phylogenetic perspective) took place roughly, 220 million years now takes place over the course of 9 months and post utero during the first 6 months as corticoreticular pathways begin to transfer functional dominance to corticobulbar pathways (unmyelinated dorsal vagus to fully myelinated ventral vagus, and social engagement -infant becomes a social agent - rather than just feeding as the primary vehicle of visual-facial, auditory-prosodic and tactile-gestural down-regulation, up-regulation and co-regulation with the mother and others). One important empirical measurement of that is vagal efficiency, that is, as an index of cardiac vagal tone with respect to RSA.
You seem to love drama. Why there is so much drama around everything these days. What comes to polyvagal theory. It has helped me a lot to control my stresslevels. I understand that medical industry hates pvt, cause people can get help without drugs through breathing and balancing autonomic nervesystem. Could it be that research doesnt get any funding because results might be harmful for medical industry 🤔
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In regards to the coherence model you mentioned. You say didn't really show proof. I don't necessarily have any proof....but heartmath might have some good information for you.
No matter how impressed you are with respect to what Taylor is saying, his assertions are NOT supported by the facts! The cardioinhibitory neuronal fibers migrated from the dorsal motor nucleus to the nucleus ambiguus forming the mammalian ventral vagal complex, which is IN FACT neuroanatomically linked and coordinated with the five cranial nerves (V, facial nerve, VII, trigeminal nerve, IX, glossopharyngeal nerve, X, Vagus nerve and XI Accessory nerve. They are connected by interneurons. This has never been disputed by any scientific peer reviewed journal. "However, Porges is wrong that the vagal system is responsible for social interactions such as facial expression and head turning." This is entirely inaccurate. What are the other cranial nerves? Do you know what they are? Did you know that the outer perimeter of the nucleus ambiguus is where the facial nerve forms? Do you understand that sucking, swallowing and vocalization is an integral part of calming and in normal and healthy infancy a high baseline RSA and the beginnings of social-emotional regulation/engagement? Do you understand that the striated muscles of the face, cranial nerve V innervates the ossicle chain, the small middle ear muscles, namely the stapedius muscles as well as other cranial nerves? We are talking about coordinated neuronal pathways of the cranial nerves. However the five cranial mentioned nerves and the two visceromotor pathways (i.e., specifically the ventral vagal complex) is a fundamental part of how the fetus myelinated brain during the third trimester develops. Please take a look at Embryology. During the first six months (forgive me for repeating myself) the corticoreticular pathways begin to be transferred or re-purposed to more corticobulbar pathways with projections to other myelinated developing parts of the central nervous system. So the SAME SYSTEM (the ventral vagal complex as it further myelinates (the child acquires more agency), becomes part of social-affective reciprocal cueing with the mother (i.e., back and forth deepening affect reciprocal attachment, back and forth vocalization and play). Of course the parasympathetic ventral vagal complex (social-engagement) sympathetic-adrenal system (fight/flight) and the dorsal motor complex (reduction of metabolic output and immobilization under threat) are phylogenetically and hierarchically ordered! All are different adaptations of one system. I am sorry but with all due respect, it is embarrassing and patently absurd to make such a misleading and false statement about the ventral vagal complex!
"The cardioinhibitory neuronal fibers migrated from the dorsal motor nucleus to the nucleus ambiguus forming the mammalian ventral vagal complex, which is IN FACT neuroanatomically linked and coordinated with the five cranial nerves (V, facial nerve, VII, trigeminal nerve, IX, glossopharyngeal nerve, X, Vagus nerve and XI Accessory nerve. They are connected by interneurons." Oh come on. To speak in your language, this is simply 'sesquipedalian'. This coming from someone who uses some PVT in their work.
@@rufia75 I am truly sorry if you are neuroceptively-interoceptively interpreting (taking out of context what needs to be framed given the distortions in this presentation) in such, how shall we say, adolescent short attention span with heightened sympathetic adrenal arousal. Sad but amusing! This is coming from someone as well who has been practicing with families of their children both neurotypical and non-neurotypical PVT as the foundation of practice for two decades.
"Without any research to support the theory or the theory in its entirety." The theory is absolutely and unequivocally supported in its entirety! The neuroanatomical and neurophysiological data. In 15,000 peer reviewed articles citing Polyvagal Theory there has been no one who has challenged his interpretation of the neuroanatomical and neurophysiological functional delineations between the dorsal and ventral vagal complex. Thirdly, you want hard core and indisputable scientific evidence turned towards embryology and the RSA differences in healthy newborns (who are born with a myelinated vagus) and preterm prior to 30 weeks who are born essentially with a reptilian autonomic nervous system (i.e. without the protective qualities of a myelinated vagus). and ensuing instances of apenea, tachycardia and neurogenic bradycardia. The foregoing representing the basis of the theory. In healthy newborns we go from corticoreticular to the repurposed corticobulbar neuronal pathways as the infant from nursing during the first 6 month transitions into a fully ventral vagal social-emotional agent.
Therapy is not about telling the patient what you think they should do. That is actually counter to any helpful therapeutic process.
PVT beyond dispute is founded on well established neuroanatomical and neurophysiological evidence in the literature for decades; not just phylogenetic changes from a social reptiles to social mammals with the migration of cardiohibitory fibers from the dorsal motor nucleus to the ventral vagal nucleus ambiguous which is neuroanatomically linked and coordinated (borne out, evidence based in mammalian and particularly human embryology) with 5 cranial nerves (face, head and neck) V, VII, IX, X and XI and two visceromotor pathways, one to the bronchi and one to the sinoatrial node (pacemaker) of the heart. The latter scientifically correctly depicted as our heart-face connection. Secondly, there were no premises (2) you mention that were dropped from the theory. So what, indeed, are you talking about? Thirdly, the time honorific and dare we say disingenuous criticisms by Grossman and Taylor are straw man arguments that have nothing to do with the core scientific principles and foundations of Polyvagal Theory. For example, preganglionic myelinated fibers found in non mammals or a ventral cardioinhibitory fiber found in the lung fish, etc., is interesting but has NOTHING to do at all with how the ventral vagus complex developed and functions in mammals. Now, you got my ire up! Despite, your capacity to well state and articulate @26.15 you do NOT know what you are talking about. I am a developmental therapist/educator working in the field of autism for over 22 yrs. You cannot train a child vis a vis the abusive practices of ABA methodologies to make eye contact. Meaning it is not the same thing neurophysiologically and neurochemically as spontaneous social engagement, which involves spontaneous and reciprocal affect co-regulation which enable regulation and the optimization of the ventral vagal complex, in accordance with Polyvagal theory. There is absolute and unequivocal evidence in spontaneous and adaptive shifts (from low vagal tone to high tone) in the striated muscles of the face VII, and middle ear muscles (stapedius) and vocalization (recurrent laryngeal nerve, a branch of the vagus) and thus the capacity for social -pragmatic communication/language (all the forgoing interneuronally linked) in adaptive shifts from dorsal withdrawal/disassociation or high sympathetic-adrenal arousal to parasympathetic ventral vagal safety (social engagement). This can not only NOT be accomplished through operant conditioning/ABA but in point of sad and tragic fact, in its divinely resplendent abuse and Ignorance actually exponentially increases underlying sympathetic adrenal fight/flight responses and/ or dissociation as the "operant reinforced tasks" (i.e., trained eye contact, "Look at me. Good job!" ) are executed/achieved. For example, increased cortisol and vasopressin levels vs oxytocin and positive sympathies mobilization, dopamine, etc. Number 4). The differences in RSA, strong baseline amplitude and ability to suppress RSA (vagal brake off) when positively sympathetic states are mobilized and engaged (e.g., Joy/play) and return to baseline strength is a well evidenced-based of the cardioinhibitory vagal ventral complex and in fact the foundations of index cardiac measurements, vagal efficiency of Polyvagal Theory. This is, furthermore, connected to the original theory by Steve with respect to the vagal paradox, i.e., in healthy newborn versus preterm babies born prior to 28-30 weeks. Preterm very low RSA. Apneas and fatal neurogenic bradycardia when they do occur in preterm show high vagal tone, hence the paradox. Why? Because of the two neuroanatomically distinct ventral and dorsal vagus pathways. What you are quoting from Porges @around 30.00 is again not one scintilla in question. Mammals did not evolve from modern reptiles. They evolved from a common ancestor to both. The shift from the primitive gill arches in fish to a full functioning ventral vagal complex of social-emotional engagement, attachment, nurturing, co-regulation' co-regulatory communicative emotional affect facial, auditory-prosodic, tactile gestural expression, etc. and thus down loading cues of earlier evolutionary dorsal and sympathetic defense systems are NOT in question! I am not saying this condescendingly but honestly and sincerely, I am not sure if you understand what you are reading? And if you really think that reptiles are "social" you are delusional!!! You know my darling with your British accent/overtone and your penchant for being able to quote text while nicely presented is profoundly neither scientifically or educationally informed. "Because the (neurological) ideas are so dense that you can't fully understand them?" Does not make them invalid. In fact the so-called alternative explanations, which are much more complimentary lack the solid neuroanatomical, neurophysiological neuroendocrine foundations and the systemic historical research that support not just the central core tenets but everything in PVT. The arguments, again by Grossman and Taylor ENTIRELY Peripheral to Polvvagal theory. They are, again, if you just read a wee bit deeper, strawman arguments. Talking about outliers in evolution, lung fish, etc., while interesting has nothing to do with the evolution of the cardioinhibitory neurons clustering and migrating to form the nucleus ambiguus, the mammalian ventral vagal complex. It is only in mammals that we find RSA, which is a function of the myelinated ventral vagus complex, found exclusively in the nucleus ambiguus. Yes, there are cardiorespiratory couplings in other species, reptiles, amphibians, etc. However, not RSA (Respiratory sinus arrhythmia). With all due respect, where you are completely misguided is that PVT is not offered as an "intervention." It is an accurate window and portal into the phylogenetic and (what you don't broach at all, which is key) embryological foundations of the growth and development of the autonomic nervous system from sucking, swallowing and vocalization as the infant develops (from myelinated functioning fibers) to maturation (more myelinated to unmyelinated fibers) into re-purposed full social-emotional engagement. Heart rate variability or more specifically RSA, which is can serve as a measure or index of the efficiency of cardiac vagal tone of the ventral vagus (vagal efficiency of ventral vagal brake) threat) is not a "cause" (the vagal nerve does not "cause anything") but rather is a conduit, a window. Also, another correction. Heart rate variability as measurement of RSA is by definition connected with breathing. RSA is the measurement of heart rate variability with respiration under different environmental challenges. Here, let's debate the points in this paper, shall we? www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666497623000346?via%3Dihub#bib34 As well as this: www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnint.2022.871227/full
Polyvagal theory bases its theory on the role of the vagus nerve, however scientists with extensive experience and knowledge about the vagus nerve have debunked Porges data and theory. Still its a very helpful model for psychotherapy.
No one has debunked it. Paul Grossman is a disgruntled physiologist who became an antagonist because working along similar lines Porges developed the theory first. Grossman and Taylor’s straw man argument do not address the central tenets of the theory of the phylogenetic and hierarchical transition from a-social reptiles to social mammals, which finds its core evidentiary facts in human embryology. What they present are at best interesting facts but not central to the theory and egregiously and shamefully are, in fact, strawman arguments! A couple of other outliers as well, which simply do NOT understand the basis of the theory rooted in how the mammalian autonomic nervous system develops. Porges is cited in approximately 15,000 peer reviewed articles.
I love how this guy is trying to discredit Paul Grossman who is well respected in his field. No self respecting physiologist supports Porges, most just don't bother spending any energy debunking him because the "theory" and the utter nonsense he spouts about physiology is such fundamental garbage they don't imagine anyone would fall for it. Unfortunately, therapists are a credulous lot (including me once upon a time) so the nonsense has spread far and wide. Thank goodness Grossman decided to rescue anyone smart enough to see that the emperor has no clothes.
@@LeahBensonTherapyTampa Contrary! He rescued you into further delusion and you need a pair of new clothes! It is my darling, Paul Grossman who had not somewhat but completely and entirely discredited . His arguments are strawman arguments that have no merit; meaning; nada, to do with the neuroanatomical and neurophysiological foundations of Polyvagal Theory which is based upon existing science. It is “willful misunderstanding” of Polyvagal Theory. He is essentially disgruntled because Steve beat him to it.
@@LeahBensonTherapyTampaPaul Grossman is a disgruntled physiologist as he too was exploring phylogeny and RSA (respiratory sinus arrhythmia, measurement cardiac vagal tone) but Porges presented the Polyvagal Theory first. He is virtually the lone dissenter or one of very few but the most spoken and has been partly but completely and unequivocally discredited .
@@Neilgs LOL. Ok, sir. Whatever. As I said in an other comment, Predictive processing reduces the entire bag of PV garbage ideas to folk psychological nonsense. But hey, enjoy your steak while that ship sinks,
In addition to childhood trauma, i am also dealing.with my aging body and the fear of death😢which keep my stress hormones elevated.
I have the book, but don't understand why he left out H.P.A.axis dysregulation, which is what I am dealing with due to early and severe childhood stressors and trauma that plagued me thruout my long life. I was hoping to find this in The Body keeps the Score. Chronic stress plays a huge role in the hypothalamic, pituitary, adrenal axis dysregulation and the linked increase in cortisol and NE. This causes numerous miserable symptoms like chronic fatigue, insomnia, body aches and pains, etc...and should be addressed in any book about trauma. Thank you!
So good! Thanks. I'm always looking for good explanations of why this is a myth to send to my friends and colleagues. I'm a bit less measured than you, lol, so this is a good resource. The betrayal I felt was gigantic when I realized (after understanding Lisa Feldman Barrett's work) that PV was junk. I couldn't believe that all my teachers had been teaching me scientific myths about brain function. And though they are no longer my teachers, it irks me that they still are teaching this junk as if it's science. It's kind of infuriating, and I'm on a mission to make sure as many people as possible know it's junk science. Therapists deserve better. They deserve to know that it's a story, perhaps a useful one, but nothing more. Anyway, thanks again.
You really don't know what you are talking about, it is truly an embarrassment! If you understood neuroanatomy, neurophysiology, neuroendocrinology as well as phylogeny and human embryology which apparently you do not, perhaps you would arrive at a different conclusion. Polyvagal Theory is cited in over 15,000 peer reviewed articles. To infer that there is no new understanding of the vagus is just simple and pure ignorance. There are clear neuroanatomical and neurophysiological distinctions between the primitive dorsal motor nucleus (solitary tract), a sympathetic-adrenal nervous system and the nucleus ambiguus that emerged with mammals approx. 220 million years ago with five clustered cranial nerves (V, VII, IX, X and XI) and the two myelinated viceromotor pathways connected to the bronchi and sinoatrial node, hence constituting what is referred to as, "the ventral vagal complex." Furthermore, one does not need to find the common ancestor both to reptiles and mammals, In other words, just turn to phylogeny to clearly understand the transitional maturation of the autonomic nervous but rather to human embryology and prematurity, post utero prior to 28 weeks where the babies are vulnerable to apneas and neurogenic bradycardia. As far as Neuroception, it is largely situated in the FG (FFA of the FG, fusiform face area), the superior temporal sulcus and the temporal parietal junction. Essentially, interpreting cues of safety from cues of danger, biological motion in contrast to mechanical motion. Interoception significantly involves the insular. This is not some careless speculation or "Just so story" but an integral part of Affective Neuroscience.
@Neilgs - 😂LOL. We'll have to agree to disagree. I stand by my statement. PV ideas are garbage pseudoscience. No self respecting physiologist supports this nonsense. Predictive brain function renders it folk psychological gobbledygook. But hey, enjoy your steak while the ship sinks. 🍻
😂LOL, we'll have to agree to disagree. No self respecting physiologist supports this garbage. Predictive processing reduces PV ideas to folk psychological garbage too. But hey, enjoy your steak as the ship sinks. 🍻
@@Neilgs LOLLLLLLLLLL. Bro, you done drank the coolaid. It's all good. Enjoy that poison.
So proud of you & the tremendous impact you're having with other families and the world, not to mention our incredible daughter!
Never seen your videos before but I'm thankful I came across this one - I love how you explain your thought process and approach to assessing this argument. A great illustration of critical thinking. Thank you!
Wow! I'm really impressed and I will definitely check out the rest of your content. Hope you don't mind, but I'll take a shot at a question. I would love to hear your thoughts on NLP, neurologistic language programming. It's not scientifically proven in every aspect, but with a practical approach and a critical mind to explore it, everybody can put it to good use in a way that suits them. You can't simply replace your senses and reactions to replicate a successful athlete for instace, if you're wanting to be good at high jumping, but keep stopping before the bar. However you can work on different aspects of your behaviour and ultimately get closer, kind of using a scientific method of researching yourself and running the change process as a project. It's an entire world and my favorite speaker and coach is a Swedish one, named Kjell Enhager, who also has English videos.
Good video
So interesting. I personally find polyvagal theory baffling even on its own terms. There's so much talk of people being 'stuck' in defensive states, and the need to move through sympathetic, up the ladder into ventral, then in the same breath we're told that we first need to move into ventral in order to 'unstick' a defensive state! Total paradox as far as I can see. I can't make head nor tail of it.
So painful the realization that it is at “ home as a little child,our first experience of being an outsider” due to being dismissed and devalued.
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Agree with Dr Greene’s compliment, great in-depth questions asked by the interviewer that provided informative examples and practical problem shooting 👍👍
If beating the crap out of a dog when it pees on the rug doesn't prevent it from doing it again or undo what it did, what makes people think it would work on a human child? Or is this just an excuse for pathetic, abusive people to inflict pain and suffering on innocent and defenseless beings?
"If I beat the sh*t out of my kid, will it hurt them in the longterm" ....I wish I was surprised that people actually ask themselves this question. Society is doomed.
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Hi Jen! Great info, thank you so much! May I ask what camera and microphone you're using? The quality of the picture and sound is excellent!!