U must be dumb thinking necro sound is the same as other metal. Zero comparison
@VostoxVI2 күн бұрын
Excellent video here. I'm a bassist myself but, John McGeoch will always be one of my all-time favorite guitarists. Hopefully the new planned biopic of his life will shine the spotlight upon him like he rightfully deserved/deserves. Like you, I also made a tribute video to John McGeoch's memory (though, on bass) and I hope to make more featuring other material he played on...
@terencestephenmoss21592 күн бұрын
Brilliant musicianship
@CryptToneMusic3 күн бұрын
Reminds me a bit of Jerry Only's bass tone in the Misfits! Love it!
@mattm97593 күн бұрын
Great to hear a better alternative to the sm57 at is in every music store. Why did you not use the same speaker and tuned the amp for the P10? Kind of defeats the purpose of a sound comparison no
@caseykane38453 күн бұрын
@CIRCLEOFTONE Playing an E [major] Barre chord on guitar, and playing an octave below it on bass, means that the bass is playing an E... WHICH IS THE ROOT NOTE OF THE E BARRE CHORD. Why would you say that it's not? Also, Chris Spedding recorded a 3 song demo for the Sex Pistols in 1976 (though with several takes of "No Feelings"). The songs are readily available on KZread. Please have a listen. Why would you use a quotation from Chris Spedding about Steve Jones recording overdubs, and claim that Spedding was referring to the 1977 recording sessions that he had nothing to do with? And label the people who *were* there as LIARS? That's pretty damn negligent--at best. Spedding was, OF COURSE, referring to the minimal overdubs on the recordings that he'd made with the Pistols. I have a feeling--and I truly HOPE--that you're actually the presenter, and that you didn't write the script. If this is the case, then you need to have a word with the "writer," because he or she is making you look *really* foolish. If you *did* write the script I suggest--with respect--that you get yourself a writer partner. Someone who's very proficient at doing detailed research, and in keeping those details straight so that the script tells the story in true, linear fashion instead of making incorrect, sloppy, and absurd connections that defy time and space. You're capable of producing much higher quality content than this rubbish video.
@CIRCLEOFTONE3 күн бұрын
@@caseykane3845 Crazy coincidence that months before Spedding met the Sex Pistols his guitar rig was a Fender Twin, Les Paul and MXR phaser pedal. The EXACT setup used on NMTB. Also you obviously don't play guitar. If you did and cast your mind back at your earliest recordings, they probably don't involve being ONE OF THE GREATEST SOUNDING ROCK GUITAR AND BASS PERFORMANCES IN HISTORY. Haha. To be so gullible as to think your first time holding a bass... and sounding THAT POLISHED is adorable. Answer me one question: After NMTB, why did every single thing Jones play on after NMTB FLOP? Everything he touched after that album was a failure.
@CIRCLEOFTONE3 күн бұрын
@@caseykane3845 btw an E major barre chord is one of the hardest chords to play. The F chord almost made me quit when I started playing. So it's comedy gold that's the first thing you typed. Just rough and tumble vagabonds playing world class guitar and bass from the start right?
@caseykane38457 сағат бұрын
@@CIRCLEOFTONE > "...an E major barre chord is one of the hardest chords to play." I honestly cannot think of a context in which this statement would be true. I'd say that the F major chord is, by far, the most difficult chord for beginners to learn. In the early '90s I wrote to the guitarist of a band I liked--and still do. (At the time they were on the Kill Rock Stars label.) I told her that I was learning how to play, but I couldn't make the F chord yet. In her reply she wrote, "I don't use the F chord at all!" But beginners typically--and by "typically" I mean "ALWAYS!"--learn the F chord before being able to continue on into learning additional barred chords. The issue--as you know--is that you need to work on strengthening the muscles in your hand until the index finger can securely hold the strings down to create the "barre." As you progress, you can see the results in your playing, but also in the muscle that you've been exercising. As it develops, it begins to make itself apparent as a "bulge" between the thumb and forefinger of your fretting hand. The E major is barred at the 12th fret, which requires much less strength than chords further down the neck. The only "difficulty" is managing to fit your--or definitely at least *my*--three other FAT FINGERS in place to hold down the proper strings and *only* the proper strings, without inadvertently muting any string that's meant to ring out. All of this is very basic, as are the chords in Sex Pistols songs. Chris Spedding had nothing to do with NMTB. As for the bass: You tend to insert your own arbitrary details, such as, "...as to think your first time holding a bass...." Who said it was Jones; first time? This reminds me of a story about King Crimson: in the early 70s Fripp was trying to find a bassist and a singer, or a singing bassist, and having trouble. [Other members had come and gone,] Finally, Boz Burrell (later of Bad Company) was hired as singer, but they still had no bassist. During a break in auditions, Fripp noticed Boz messing around with a bass that one of the hopeful applicants had left. And, so the story goes, Fripp "taught Boz how to play bass," and Boz became both the singer and bass player. Isn't that a nice story? And it's true. The detail that is almost always omitted is that Boz was already a proficient guitar player. There are "bass players" and there are "Bassists." Boz's experience in playing guitar provided the foundations for him to play bass WITH ROBERT FRIPP IN FREAKING KING CRIMSON! It's obvious in live improvs from this period that, surely at least in part due to Boz's limitations on bass, that they couldn't be as free in what they played. In fact, it was later, with bassist and singer John Wetton that they could truly *improvise* on stage: not in the traditional jazz sense, but with the intention of creating a new piece of music. While Boz definitely held his own as a bass player, this version of the band was limited to playing *jams* rather than real improvisations. Boz would stick to repeating a handful of notes--very blues-like--while Fripp, horn player Mel Collins, and drummer Ian Wallace could try to play a bit further afield. My point, which I know you haven't the slightest interest in, is that Steve Jones was a very solid rhythm guitar player. The bass on NMTB is simple enough that a bone fide Bassist was not necessary at all: Steve Jones as bass player was more than qualified to handle bass duties, which he did. (Something semi-related, but fun: I'm gonna make you do the work, but find The Pistols' studio recording of The Who's "Substitute." There are two versions: The first is the original recording done with Dave Goodman while Matlock was still in the band. The second was created for "The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle" soundtrack. They took the recording I just mentioned, but got rid of Matlock's part, and added new guitars and bass (by Jones), and (probably) new drums as well--I don't recall. But they gave the original recording the sound of NMTB. In the original, though, Matlock provides these melodic, nimbly-played bass runs, and it's such a huge contrast to the ham-fisted (but still great) simplicity of Jones.) >"Answer me one question: After NMTB, why did every single thing Jones play on after NMTB FLOP? Everything he touched after that album was a failure." Yeah, I'm sorry, but I can't take this question seriously. I disagree over the use of the term "flop," and there are many reasons for his successes or lack thereof over the years. This has nothing to do with the question of whether or not he played on NMTB. An appropriate question... Aw, hell, I'm tired, and I'm still not certain if you're taking the piss, or if you truly believe that your video is a true and accurate account of the recording of NMTB. Either way, there's no point in my yammering on and on: "I hereby object to your ponoloofusly roodippedity assertion on the grounds that the chronology of the details contained resembles the work of Jackson Pollock." But just to complete my sentence above: An appropriate question--or, really, just CONSIDERATION--would be, "is there truly any legitimate reason, in 2024, to even *question* whether Jones played guitar--and bass (along with, I think, two contributions by Sid)--on NMTB? But you please just keep on with what you're doing. It's your thing, and I hope you enjoy working on it, and that it brings you satisfaction. I'm not being sarcastic (or sardonic--though I always forget the difference). My interaction is a waste of both of our time. (Or could it be "times" since individuals perceive time differently?) I dunno. Cheers!
@CIRCLEOFTONE13 минут бұрын
Obviously I was referring to the E barre shape. Did you think I was talking about an open E chord?
@AceGibson19594 күн бұрын
I remember the good 'ol days of having our Plexi's, JMP's early JCM's modded. These days you don't need to do that. Just about every amp, including budget amps can either duplicate the modded Marshall or really close, right out of the box.
@jefflyon20204 күн бұрын
AWESOME!, love this record, everything about it, always have ,always will. It is so good to hear other people play this kind of amazing form of music. Napalm death epitomized the sound of death metal, THE BEST!...from mentally murdered to mass appeal madness-eats your brain! Fookin killer keep making videos please, Chuffed to hear and see.
@zivabrogan58075 күн бұрын
Sorry, but, if you are going into the "old" blues, and using Robert Johnson then you are are only going to the late 40's. Whereas the blues was pioneered by Ma Rainey and Bessie Smith in the twenties...they were the biggest selling artists in America in 1924!!! As usual all that is on offer here is regurgitated crap heard from elsewhere!!! You need to do better...mind your own business!
@CIRCLEOFTONE5 күн бұрын
Are you drunk? Read the title. This isn't the history of the blues. This is about Robert Johnson and his SKILL. If it was blues history I'd be talking about influence from folk music, slaves singing while working, military march songs, Christian/Gospel etc etc influence on the early blues musicians. And if it was Bessy specifically the Jazz aspect. Apology accepted.
@bengelder65775 күн бұрын
I've subscribed because you are absolutely correct mate 👍 It's not just rock it's all music processed like a tin of spam (except I love spam mmmmm spam and black pudding sarnie❤) but yeah keep doing what you're doing and giving us a glimmer of hope I'm rock and metal to the grave 🤟
@CIRCLEOFTONE5 күн бұрын
Thanks man
@McFeedback19687 күн бұрын
Love kisses ! LOL! I know exactly what you mean, a bass player I played with had a Mono B Block Traynor and he just fell over one day, we had no idea what happened. He got shocked! hahaha!!!
@CIRCLEOFTONE7 күн бұрын
Haha yeah but thankfully it's only the bass player
@DIMITSOS-tz4tu7 күн бұрын
shut up nerd
@evawall98207 күн бұрын
Steve jones is playin´.
@CIRCLEOFTONE7 күн бұрын
@@evawall9820 Playing or Playin' lol
@katielowen8 күн бұрын
LMAO GOD 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@dgaz30578 күн бұрын
Nope thats not the sound
@CIRCLEOFTONE8 күн бұрын
Where did I claim I nailed their sound? I litteraly say my Piranha that I used does not sound like their ADA.
@dgaz30578 күн бұрын
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Sorry bro, I only heard the sound, but glad you acknowledged it in your video. So whats ADA?
@CIRCLEOFTONE8 күн бұрын
Ada mp1 is a rack effect he used during this period. I get closer during the world coming down period here kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWaWvKmKZ7vOodY.htmlsi=-G2XVamU4NwVwB58
@NvgtrWiggles9 күн бұрын
Love that you get into the history of it all!
@jeffdowning48779 күн бұрын
Great episode as always. However you were wrong about the first Black Sabbath album not having any chugging. The signature riff at the end of the first song, the self-titled track Black Sabbath, in fact is a chugging palm muted riff. So as much as you dont want to hear it, Black Sabbath was huge in that aspect of metal as well. :) Im totally on board with everything else you said and including The Yardbirds was awesome. Cheers!
@CIRCLEOFTONE8 күн бұрын
Close but that's single string muting. Chug is at least a power chord muted.
@StealthMockingbird11 күн бұрын
Scott Ian.
@CIRCLEOFTONE11 күн бұрын
22:50 but you missed out a VITAL part (the guy who wrote Ian's riffs... the drummer).
@StealthMockingbird10 күн бұрын
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Scott wrote March Of The SOD. Not Charlie.
@CIRCLEOFTONE10 күн бұрын
Scott may never have been signed with Anthrax without the earlier riffs.
@nudibanches11 күн бұрын
New Rose is the first UK punk single, beaten by two months by I’m Stranded. (The Saints).
@IronandWire11 күн бұрын
Don't you think Jones could play much better in the studio than liquored up live??? I imagine NMTB is about 200 takes.
@CIRCLEOFTONE11 күн бұрын
Cast your mind back to the first time you ever tried to record. Now go listen to the bass and guitar on NMTB and think is that quality likely?
@IronandWire9 күн бұрын
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Ha! NO, and I've always doubted it too but I want to believe what they sold me...maybe we've been cheated.
@sheldonswan4512 күн бұрын
So the cork surround G12-65’s are the vintage voiced version? Thanks
@petecook5VIDCHANNEL112 күн бұрын
Agreed 100%. As a player who played in bands in the 90s, it’s easy to be wowed so much by todays production. You forget about the music writing part. Quit worrying about recording and start playing live
@chadwilliams858313 күн бұрын
When you started playimg guitar i thought you was fixing to jam that Chris Issak song,you know the one.....lol
@SpaceAlienJesus14 күн бұрын
I love this channel I hope all is well and you're happy and healthy. Ready for some new videos..
@josemigueltrujillodiaz912314 күн бұрын
Hello, fun video. Here Spedding discusses the Pistols starting at around 43:50'': kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKR1yq9qgKq7maw.html&ab_channel=EveryoneLovesGuitar
@aaddy515714 күн бұрын
There's a video on KZread called 'play along with sex pistol Steve Jones'. He plays a few NMTB tracks.
@CIRCLEOFTONE14 күн бұрын
Yeah I'm more interested if he could play it when he was still learning in the 70's.
@jettschenker16 күн бұрын
Next up, you'll be getting trolled by Geezer Butler LOL
@LECH_66619 күн бұрын
thanks for this video I bought this device 4 years ago
@timwalker14619 күн бұрын
This clown is an insult to clowns.
@yetanotheruser198920 күн бұрын
Just picking up on the point there of amp modellers, DAWs and using headphones, etc. There is so much reliance these days by even the 'rawest' of bands on running everything through DAWs and all the convenience that comes with that, to the point where all feel is lost. They create massive and complex sounds, but it lacks that human element, and the chaotic energy. I play/record at home, and have to use headphones, but my set up is as simple as possible. I run my guitar through a Dan electro distortion pedal, into a cheap amp, then into an old zoom reverb and effect processor. That then goes into a mixer and the line-in on my PC, where I record to audacity. Is it ideal? No, but it's simple enough with a lot of room for experimenting. Physically turning knobs and adjusting the signal chain to get a sound that can't really be created through plugins.
@davidbrooks907320 күн бұрын
I can see what youre saying but like myself as a guitarist i play at my best in the studio also adding ambiance and flavours to the mix to make it as large as possible that you will never hear me doing on stage, and quite offten i sound like steve on a bad day too, its what we all do isnt it, i think the mix that was acheived was massive and probably like chris Thomas said it was the lack of proper bass that made him work even harder to create something explosive and it definitely worked
@CIRCLEOFTONE20 күн бұрын
@@davidbrooks9073 Think about the first time you ever heard yourself being played back after recording. Really cast your mind back at how horrified you were. Then think about playing a bass and sounding like a seasoned pro FIRST TIME YOU EVER PICK UP A BASS. I'm not buying it
@davidbrooks907320 күн бұрын
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I've always thought I sound better in the studio than I do live, I don't mean I sound great in either situation tbh, but the 1st time for me was playing bass and thought it was good for myself. I think the album was finished off to sound like the anarchy single which had Glen on it otherwise it would've sounded disjointed. I've heard loads of different recordings of the pistols live and there are a few that Jones is totally on top form yet I've also heard loads more where he really is as bad as they say, and that's where I liken it to my own live play that is nothing like my studio time, it's something that is costing money and you can hear yourself properly and generally not fuelled by as many drugs or alcohol as I would be live because of nerves. Have you heard how bad the clash also sounded live in the early days to what the album's sounded like, very different to my ears. I see in the comments and video talking about spedding talking but I only see Thomas and price speaking or maybe I've missed something.there is a recentish video of spedding talking about his involvement on KZread. Rotten over the years has spoken a lot of needless twoddle, but he has always remained true about calling out fakes and I would've thought if Steve had faked this he would be the 1st to call it out. You are right about the professional's recordings but I also think Steve hates it too and is far better only having his guitar bits to concentrate on
@CIRCLEOFTONE20 күн бұрын
@@davidbrooks9073 the bands often do don't know they were replaced. I've seen interviews where old classic guitarists have claimed they used XYZ hardtail guitar on a song solo...When you CLEARLY hear a whammy bar all over it. Beatles drums etc are a tip of the iceberg.
@davidbrooks907320 күн бұрын
Fair enough you have your theory, but I think you're underestimating Jones's talent at the time because of a couple of videos of manic times in rock n roll and a rumour already out there of spedding being on the scene thus it must've been him 're recording or at least adding to it. The bottom line really is the music isn't like some vertuoso and is all pretty easy stuff really, when I started playing I was listening to rockabilly and finding that very difficult to play, then I heard NMTB and immediately realised that it not only sounded great that it was also easy to play. I think that if it was faked and became and then became iconic then the person who faked it would want to take credit for it.... no-one has so far
@CIRCLEOFTONE20 күн бұрын
@davidbrooks9073 Don't you think it's a bit strange EVERYTHING he played on after NMTB bombed? Went from greatest punk rock album ever to nothing.
@yetanotheruser198921 күн бұрын
It's interesting watching videos about more traditional guitar recording techniques. Heads, cabinets, mic placements, room sound, etc. Then comparing that to artists who DI guitars through various processors and whatnot. It lets me remember that there is no perfect guitar sound. It's what suits the genre, the feel, and the song itself.
@CIRCLEOFTONE21 күн бұрын
Update: Jordan Boss Tone looks like it fits the bill. I just need a loaner to confirm the sputtery goodness.
@brettmarlar415421 күн бұрын
I didn't you hear you mention the fact that he tuned down a perfect 4th. This would add to the "buzzy" tone he had on his 4 string. Plus, I don't recall ever seeing a DS-1 on his board. The times I saw him, he was using a Metal Zone distortion. Of course, I see that yours is modified, which I can only guess gives it more of a Metal Zone vibe. Plus it's not too uncommon for lefties to play right handed. I know there have been loads of guitarists to have done so. That way they wouldn't have to take the time to modify the guitar, or learn to play with the strings inverted ala Albert King. I do agree with you that there's an obvious lack of chaos in, not only rock/metal, but in all genres. practically everything is hyper quantized to the grid. When the biggest musical risk that i being taken is Beyonce' doing a Country song, or Dolly Parton doing a Rock album, that's a sad state of affairs.
@CIRCLEOFTONE21 күн бұрын
Yep I've seen a few ref's to a a metalzone so he did use it now and then but he did state its a cheap boss orange pedal (the metalzone was more expensive than the DS1). BUT I have a metalzone so if I ever bring the channel back I could A/B them. The metalzone didn't proliferate into the US until after slow deep and hard so it wasn't released en mass until the end of 91.
@Sentinel_of_armageddon22 күн бұрын
Some of the coolest metal albums ever were made with gear that wasn't boutique at all. Plus, different tones were guys just fooling around with the gear they had. I play a solid state CRATE with a metal zone, passive pups and a 20 year old mid range BC rich. Didn't cost shit by comparison but became two of our bands sound that we record with. No hatred to high end gear, but I tried a dual rectifier and wasn't ready to give up my gear.
@GS-vb3zn22 күн бұрын
Hard to believe that a 60yo man (he did say he was 17/18 when NMTB came out?) is engaging in childish fanboy battles (with apparently no one?) of who is really playing guitar on this or that, spewing out "LIAR" memes, no less, like some butt hurt TikTok influencer. Did Jonsey play guitar on the album? Of course he did. Did he get help? I don't think so but who cares? I know that Jones can certainly play guitar now.
@CIRCLEOFTONE22 күн бұрын
At least watch my video eh? I LITERALLY said Jones played on it.
@GS-vb3zn22 күн бұрын
McKenty's channel is a mixed bag. Sometimes he's brilliant but often he's gatekeeper of what's punk, what's not etc etc. etc
@CIRCLEOFTONE22 күн бұрын
@@GS-vb3zn I think he walks the line perfectly. He's way more underground that he let's on but he knows what his audience want to hear.
@MacCunnyfunt22 күн бұрын
Amazing, just amazing. Took me right back to 1980 when I saw them for the first time in a tiny local venue. Unbelievable when you think of how massive they are now.
@CIRCLEOFTONE20 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it man
@davidnoy396422 күн бұрын
Sarah Connor on meth
@tarekbaziz22 күн бұрын
Well I'm a black metal fan and I became one way before knowing the history of all the parsons, killings and suicide incidents...none of what you've said convinced me one bit...I just think you're having a hate driven motive to criticize a whole genre in such dogmatic manner...too biased of a judgement imo
@CIRCLEOFTONE22 күн бұрын
@@tarekbaziz hate is right. Clones with trem picking, blast beats and anguished screams killed the underground. Give it another 35 years before it drives you insane too.
@SupaFUZZZZZZ23 күн бұрын
Where the hell is this guy and when are we getting more videos??? I love this channel
@brpadington23 күн бұрын
Pretty Hate Machine had great guitar tones too.
@CIRCLEOFTONE23 күн бұрын
Agreed.
@lincolnb-w255823 күн бұрын
Bowie, Clash, Iggy, Ramones, Siouxsie, Bauhaus...all part of my musical journey (I hit my teens in 1978)...70s and 80s were a musicy wonderland. I have even come to appreciate, enjoy even, prog rock! Your videos are good fun! Thanks.
@CIRCLEOFTONE23 күн бұрын
You may like the Adam and the Ants video I did
@tritex635023 күн бұрын
Honestly, I don’t like how the first three KsE albums sound. The production, especially the guitar tone, feels unfinished, like a demo almost. As Daylight Dies sounds and feels like the first proper production from them. Just me though.
@hamesparde988825 күн бұрын
I think anything that requires lots of speculative mathematics or really giant computer models cannot be taken as fact.
@hamesparde988825 күн бұрын
Wait! Bro! Are you telling me you're not following the science?
@hamesparde988825 күн бұрын
One guitarist. LOL. I'm no musician, but doesn't basically every JP song have two guitars? How would they even play the songs?
@hamesparde988825 күн бұрын
Metal is inherently a more male genre. Of course there are women who like and play it, but there are always going to be more men making it and if for no other reason there aren't going to be as many good metal bands with women in them (I think there are other reasons as well.)
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the HM2 has a lofi grinding steel tone i love it.
U must be dumb thinking necro sound is the same as other metal. Zero comparison
Excellent video here. I'm a bassist myself but, John McGeoch will always be one of my all-time favorite guitarists. Hopefully the new planned biopic of his life will shine the spotlight upon him like he rightfully deserved/deserves. Like you, I also made a tribute video to John McGeoch's memory (though, on bass) and I hope to make more featuring other material he played on...
Brilliant musicianship
Reminds me a bit of Jerry Only's bass tone in the Misfits! Love it!
Great to hear a better alternative to the sm57 at is in every music store. Why did you not use the same speaker and tuned the amp for the P10? Kind of defeats the purpose of a sound comparison no
@CIRCLEOFTONE Playing an E [major] Barre chord on guitar, and playing an octave below it on bass, means that the bass is playing an E... WHICH IS THE ROOT NOTE OF THE E BARRE CHORD. Why would you say that it's not? Also, Chris Spedding recorded a 3 song demo for the Sex Pistols in 1976 (though with several takes of "No Feelings"). The songs are readily available on KZread. Please have a listen. Why would you use a quotation from Chris Spedding about Steve Jones recording overdubs, and claim that Spedding was referring to the 1977 recording sessions that he had nothing to do with? And label the people who *were* there as LIARS? That's pretty damn negligent--at best. Spedding was, OF COURSE, referring to the minimal overdubs on the recordings that he'd made with the Pistols. I have a feeling--and I truly HOPE--that you're actually the presenter, and that you didn't write the script. If this is the case, then you need to have a word with the "writer," because he or she is making you look *really* foolish. If you *did* write the script I suggest--with respect--that you get yourself a writer partner. Someone who's very proficient at doing detailed research, and in keeping those details straight so that the script tells the story in true, linear fashion instead of making incorrect, sloppy, and absurd connections that defy time and space. You're capable of producing much higher quality content than this rubbish video.
@@caseykane3845 Crazy coincidence that months before Spedding met the Sex Pistols his guitar rig was a Fender Twin, Les Paul and MXR phaser pedal. The EXACT setup used on NMTB. Also you obviously don't play guitar. If you did and cast your mind back at your earliest recordings, they probably don't involve being ONE OF THE GREATEST SOUNDING ROCK GUITAR AND BASS PERFORMANCES IN HISTORY. Haha. To be so gullible as to think your first time holding a bass... and sounding THAT POLISHED is adorable. Answer me one question: After NMTB, why did every single thing Jones play on after NMTB FLOP? Everything he touched after that album was a failure.
@@caseykane3845 btw an E major barre chord is one of the hardest chords to play. The F chord almost made me quit when I started playing. So it's comedy gold that's the first thing you typed. Just rough and tumble vagabonds playing world class guitar and bass from the start right?
@@CIRCLEOFTONE > "...an E major barre chord is one of the hardest chords to play." I honestly cannot think of a context in which this statement would be true. I'd say that the F major chord is, by far, the most difficult chord for beginners to learn. In the early '90s I wrote to the guitarist of a band I liked--and still do. (At the time they were on the Kill Rock Stars label.) I told her that I was learning how to play, but I couldn't make the F chord yet. In her reply she wrote, "I don't use the F chord at all!" But beginners typically--and by "typically" I mean "ALWAYS!"--learn the F chord before being able to continue on into learning additional barred chords. The issue--as you know--is that you need to work on strengthening the muscles in your hand until the index finger can securely hold the strings down to create the "barre." As you progress, you can see the results in your playing, but also in the muscle that you've been exercising. As it develops, it begins to make itself apparent as a "bulge" between the thumb and forefinger of your fretting hand. The E major is barred at the 12th fret, which requires much less strength than chords further down the neck. The only "difficulty" is managing to fit your--or definitely at least *my*--three other FAT FINGERS in place to hold down the proper strings and *only* the proper strings, without inadvertently muting any string that's meant to ring out. All of this is very basic, as are the chords in Sex Pistols songs. Chris Spedding had nothing to do with NMTB. As for the bass: You tend to insert your own arbitrary details, such as, "...as to think your first time holding a bass...." Who said it was Jones; first time? This reminds me of a story about King Crimson: in the early 70s Fripp was trying to find a bassist and a singer, or a singing bassist, and having trouble. [Other members had come and gone,] Finally, Boz Burrell (later of Bad Company) was hired as singer, but they still had no bassist. During a break in auditions, Fripp noticed Boz messing around with a bass that one of the hopeful applicants had left. And, so the story goes, Fripp "taught Boz how to play bass," and Boz became both the singer and bass player. Isn't that a nice story? And it's true. The detail that is almost always omitted is that Boz was already a proficient guitar player. There are "bass players" and there are "Bassists." Boz's experience in playing guitar provided the foundations for him to play bass WITH ROBERT FRIPP IN FREAKING KING CRIMSON! It's obvious in live improvs from this period that, surely at least in part due to Boz's limitations on bass, that they couldn't be as free in what they played. In fact, it was later, with bassist and singer John Wetton that they could truly *improvise* on stage: not in the traditional jazz sense, but with the intention of creating a new piece of music. While Boz definitely held his own as a bass player, this version of the band was limited to playing *jams* rather than real improvisations. Boz would stick to repeating a handful of notes--very blues-like--while Fripp, horn player Mel Collins, and drummer Ian Wallace could try to play a bit further afield. My point, which I know you haven't the slightest interest in, is that Steve Jones was a very solid rhythm guitar player. The bass on NMTB is simple enough that a bone fide Bassist was not necessary at all: Steve Jones as bass player was more than qualified to handle bass duties, which he did. (Something semi-related, but fun: I'm gonna make you do the work, but find The Pistols' studio recording of The Who's "Substitute." There are two versions: The first is the original recording done with Dave Goodman while Matlock was still in the band. The second was created for "The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle" soundtrack. They took the recording I just mentioned, but got rid of Matlock's part, and added new guitars and bass (by Jones), and (probably) new drums as well--I don't recall. But they gave the original recording the sound of NMTB. In the original, though, Matlock provides these melodic, nimbly-played bass runs, and it's such a huge contrast to the ham-fisted (but still great) simplicity of Jones.) >"Answer me one question: After NMTB, why did every single thing Jones play on after NMTB FLOP? Everything he touched after that album was a failure." Yeah, I'm sorry, but I can't take this question seriously. I disagree over the use of the term "flop," and there are many reasons for his successes or lack thereof over the years. This has nothing to do with the question of whether or not he played on NMTB. An appropriate question... Aw, hell, I'm tired, and I'm still not certain if you're taking the piss, or if you truly believe that your video is a true and accurate account of the recording of NMTB. Either way, there's no point in my yammering on and on: "I hereby object to your ponoloofusly roodippedity assertion on the grounds that the chronology of the details contained resembles the work of Jackson Pollock." But just to complete my sentence above: An appropriate question--or, really, just CONSIDERATION--would be, "is there truly any legitimate reason, in 2024, to even *question* whether Jones played guitar--and bass (along with, I think, two contributions by Sid)--on NMTB? But you please just keep on with what you're doing. It's your thing, and I hope you enjoy working on it, and that it brings you satisfaction. I'm not being sarcastic (or sardonic--though I always forget the difference). My interaction is a waste of both of our time. (Or could it be "times" since individuals perceive time differently?) I dunno. Cheers!
Obviously I was referring to the E barre shape. Did you think I was talking about an open E chord?
I remember the good 'ol days of having our Plexi's, JMP's early JCM's modded. These days you don't need to do that. Just about every amp, including budget amps can either duplicate the modded Marshall or really close, right out of the box.
AWESOME!, love this record, everything about it, always have ,always will. It is so good to hear other people play this kind of amazing form of music. Napalm death epitomized the sound of death metal, THE BEST!...from mentally murdered to mass appeal madness-eats your brain! Fookin killer keep making videos please, Chuffed to hear and see.
Sorry, but, if you are going into the "old" blues, and using Robert Johnson then you are are only going to the late 40's. Whereas the blues was pioneered by Ma Rainey and Bessie Smith in the twenties...they were the biggest selling artists in America in 1924!!! As usual all that is on offer here is regurgitated crap heard from elsewhere!!! You need to do better...mind your own business!
Are you drunk? Read the title. This isn't the history of the blues. This is about Robert Johnson and his SKILL. If it was blues history I'd be talking about influence from folk music, slaves singing while working, military march songs, Christian/Gospel etc etc influence on the early blues musicians. And if it was Bessy specifically the Jazz aspect. Apology accepted.
I've subscribed because you are absolutely correct mate 👍 It's not just rock it's all music processed like a tin of spam (except I love spam mmmmm spam and black pudding sarnie❤) but yeah keep doing what you're doing and giving us a glimmer of hope I'm rock and metal to the grave 🤟
Thanks man
Love kisses ! LOL! I know exactly what you mean, a bass player I played with had a Mono B Block Traynor and he just fell over one day, we had no idea what happened. He got shocked! hahaha!!!
Haha yeah but thankfully it's only the bass player
shut up nerd
Steve jones is playin´.
@@evawall9820 Playing or Playin' lol
LMAO GOD 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nope thats not the sound
Where did I claim I nailed their sound? I litteraly say my Piranha that I used does not sound like their ADA.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Sorry bro, I only heard the sound, but glad you acknowledged it in your video. So whats ADA?
Ada mp1 is a rack effect he used during this period. I get closer during the world coming down period here kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWaWvKmKZ7vOodY.htmlsi=-G2XVamU4NwVwB58
Love that you get into the history of it all!
Great episode as always. However you were wrong about the first Black Sabbath album not having any chugging. The signature riff at the end of the first song, the self-titled track Black Sabbath, in fact is a chugging palm muted riff. So as much as you dont want to hear it, Black Sabbath was huge in that aspect of metal as well. :) Im totally on board with everything else you said and including The Yardbirds was awesome. Cheers!
Close but that's single string muting. Chug is at least a power chord muted.
Scott Ian.
22:50 but you missed out a VITAL part (the guy who wrote Ian's riffs... the drummer).
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Scott wrote March Of The SOD. Not Charlie.
Scott may never have been signed with Anthrax without the earlier riffs.
New Rose is the first UK punk single, beaten by two months by I’m Stranded. (The Saints).
Don't you think Jones could play much better in the studio than liquored up live??? I imagine NMTB is about 200 takes.
Cast your mind back to the first time you ever tried to record. Now go listen to the bass and guitar on NMTB and think is that quality likely?
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Ha! NO, and I've always doubted it too but I want to believe what they sold me...maybe we've been cheated.
So the cork surround G12-65’s are the vintage voiced version? Thanks
Agreed 100%. As a player who played in bands in the 90s, it’s easy to be wowed so much by todays production. You forget about the music writing part. Quit worrying about recording and start playing live
When you started playimg guitar i thought you was fixing to jam that Chris Issak song,you know the one.....lol
I love this channel I hope all is well and you're happy and healthy. Ready for some new videos..
Hello, fun video. Here Spedding discusses the Pistols starting at around 43:50'': kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKR1yq9qgKq7maw.html&ab_channel=EveryoneLovesGuitar
There's a video on KZread called 'play along with sex pistol Steve Jones'. He plays a few NMTB tracks.
Yeah I'm more interested if he could play it when he was still learning in the 70's.
Next up, you'll be getting trolled by Geezer Butler LOL
thanks for this video I bought this device 4 years ago
This clown is an insult to clowns.
Just picking up on the point there of amp modellers, DAWs and using headphones, etc. There is so much reliance these days by even the 'rawest' of bands on running everything through DAWs and all the convenience that comes with that, to the point where all feel is lost. They create massive and complex sounds, but it lacks that human element, and the chaotic energy. I play/record at home, and have to use headphones, but my set up is as simple as possible. I run my guitar through a Dan electro distortion pedal, into a cheap amp, then into an old zoom reverb and effect processor. That then goes into a mixer and the line-in on my PC, where I record to audacity. Is it ideal? No, but it's simple enough with a lot of room for experimenting. Physically turning knobs and adjusting the signal chain to get a sound that can't really be created through plugins.
I can see what youre saying but like myself as a guitarist i play at my best in the studio also adding ambiance and flavours to the mix to make it as large as possible that you will never hear me doing on stage, and quite offten i sound like steve on a bad day too, its what we all do isnt it, i think the mix that was acheived was massive and probably like chris Thomas said it was the lack of proper bass that made him work even harder to create something explosive and it definitely worked
@@davidbrooks9073 Think about the first time you ever heard yourself being played back after recording. Really cast your mind back at how horrified you were. Then think about playing a bass and sounding like a seasoned pro FIRST TIME YOU EVER PICK UP A BASS. I'm not buying it
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I've always thought I sound better in the studio than I do live, I don't mean I sound great in either situation tbh, but the 1st time for me was playing bass and thought it was good for myself. I think the album was finished off to sound like the anarchy single which had Glen on it otherwise it would've sounded disjointed. I've heard loads of different recordings of the pistols live and there are a few that Jones is totally on top form yet I've also heard loads more where he really is as bad as they say, and that's where I liken it to my own live play that is nothing like my studio time, it's something that is costing money and you can hear yourself properly and generally not fuelled by as many drugs or alcohol as I would be live because of nerves. Have you heard how bad the clash also sounded live in the early days to what the album's sounded like, very different to my ears. I see in the comments and video talking about spedding talking but I only see Thomas and price speaking or maybe I've missed something.there is a recentish video of spedding talking about his involvement on KZread. Rotten over the years has spoken a lot of needless twoddle, but he has always remained true about calling out fakes and I would've thought if Steve had faked this he would be the 1st to call it out. You are right about the professional's recordings but I also think Steve hates it too and is far better only having his guitar bits to concentrate on
@@davidbrooks9073 the bands often do don't know they were replaced. I've seen interviews where old classic guitarists have claimed they used XYZ hardtail guitar on a song solo...When you CLEARLY hear a whammy bar all over it. Beatles drums etc are a tip of the iceberg.
Fair enough you have your theory, but I think you're underestimating Jones's talent at the time because of a couple of videos of manic times in rock n roll and a rumour already out there of spedding being on the scene thus it must've been him 're recording or at least adding to it. The bottom line really is the music isn't like some vertuoso and is all pretty easy stuff really, when I started playing I was listening to rockabilly and finding that very difficult to play, then I heard NMTB and immediately realised that it not only sounded great that it was also easy to play. I think that if it was faked and became and then became iconic then the person who faked it would want to take credit for it.... no-one has so far
@davidbrooks9073 Don't you think it's a bit strange EVERYTHING he played on after NMTB bombed? Went from greatest punk rock album ever to nothing.
It's interesting watching videos about more traditional guitar recording techniques. Heads, cabinets, mic placements, room sound, etc. Then comparing that to artists who DI guitars through various processors and whatnot. It lets me remember that there is no perfect guitar sound. It's what suits the genre, the feel, and the song itself.
Update: Jordan Boss Tone looks like it fits the bill. I just need a loaner to confirm the sputtery goodness.
I didn't you hear you mention the fact that he tuned down a perfect 4th. This would add to the "buzzy" tone he had on his 4 string. Plus, I don't recall ever seeing a DS-1 on his board. The times I saw him, he was using a Metal Zone distortion. Of course, I see that yours is modified, which I can only guess gives it more of a Metal Zone vibe. Plus it's not too uncommon for lefties to play right handed. I know there have been loads of guitarists to have done so. That way they wouldn't have to take the time to modify the guitar, or learn to play with the strings inverted ala Albert King. I do agree with you that there's an obvious lack of chaos in, not only rock/metal, but in all genres. practically everything is hyper quantized to the grid. When the biggest musical risk that i being taken is Beyonce' doing a Country song, or Dolly Parton doing a Rock album, that's a sad state of affairs.
Yep I've seen a few ref's to a a metalzone so he did use it now and then but he did state its a cheap boss orange pedal (the metalzone was more expensive than the DS1). BUT I have a metalzone so if I ever bring the channel back I could A/B them. The metalzone didn't proliferate into the US until after slow deep and hard so it wasn't released en mass until the end of 91.
Some of the coolest metal albums ever were made with gear that wasn't boutique at all. Plus, different tones were guys just fooling around with the gear they had. I play a solid state CRATE with a metal zone, passive pups and a 20 year old mid range BC rich. Didn't cost shit by comparison but became two of our bands sound that we record with. No hatred to high end gear, but I tried a dual rectifier and wasn't ready to give up my gear.
Hard to believe that a 60yo man (he did say he was 17/18 when NMTB came out?) is engaging in childish fanboy battles (with apparently no one?) of who is really playing guitar on this or that, spewing out "LIAR" memes, no less, like some butt hurt TikTok influencer. Did Jonsey play guitar on the album? Of course he did. Did he get help? I don't think so but who cares? I know that Jones can certainly play guitar now.
At least watch my video eh? I LITERALLY said Jones played on it.
McKenty's channel is a mixed bag. Sometimes he's brilliant but often he's gatekeeper of what's punk, what's not etc etc. etc
@@GS-vb3zn I think he walks the line perfectly. He's way more underground that he let's on but he knows what his audience want to hear.
Amazing, just amazing. Took me right back to 1980 when I saw them for the first time in a tiny local venue. Unbelievable when you think of how massive they are now.
Glad you liked it man
Sarah Connor on meth
Well I'm a black metal fan and I became one way before knowing the history of all the parsons, killings and suicide incidents...none of what you've said convinced me one bit...I just think you're having a hate driven motive to criticize a whole genre in such dogmatic manner...too biased of a judgement imo
@@tarekbaziz hate is right. Clones with trem picking, blast beats and anguished screams killed the underground. Give it another 35 years before it drives you insane too.
Where the hell is this guy and when are we getting more videos??? I love this channel
Pretty Hate Machine had great guitar tones too.
Agreed.
Bowie, Clash, Iggy, Ramones, Siouxsie, Bauhaus...all part of my musical journey (I hit my teens in 1978)...70s and 80s were a musicy wonderland. I have even come to appreciate, enjoy even, prog rock! Your videos are good fun! Thanks.
You may like the Adam and the Ants video I did
Honestly, I don’t like how the first three KsE albums sound. The production, especially the guitar tone, feels unfinished, like a demo almost. As Daylight Dies sounds and feels like the first proper production from them. Just me though.
I think anything that requires lots of speculative mathematics or really giant computer models cannot be taken as fact.
Wait! Bro! Are you telling me you're not following the science?
One guitarist. LOL. I'm no musician, but doesn't basically every JP song have two guitars? How would they even play the songs?
Metal is inherently a more male genre. Of course there are women who like and play it, but there are always going to be more men making it and if for no other reason there aren't going to be as many good metal bands with women in them (I think there are other reasons as well.)