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Why I Drive a Tesla

Why I Drive a Tesla

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  • @robertkooiman27
    @robertkooiman272 сағат бұрын

    Nice chart! I think you should use miles or km driven as a measure of battery life. 75% - 65% charging: 10% of capacity x 500 km x 8000 cycles = 400.000 km to reach 90% remaining capacity 75% - 45% charging: 30% of capacity x 500 km x 5000 cycles = 750.000 km to reach 90% remaining capacity 75% - 25% charging: 50% of capacity x 500 km x 3000 cycles = 750.000 km to reach 90% remaining capacity 100% - 25% charging: 75% of capacity x 500 km x 1000 cycles = 375.000 km to reach 90% remaining capacity 85% - 25% charging: 50% of capacity x 500 km x 2000 cycles = 500.000 km to reach 90% remaining capacity Clear winner here is 75-45% and 75%-25%, 75%-65% is almost is bad as 100% to 25%

  • @orbitaljellyfish808
    @orbitaljellyfish8085 сағат бұрын

    I’m doing a 65%-45% I wonder if I should raise that up 10% I was basing it on a median of 55%

  • @dwayneam
    @dwayneam10 сағат бұрын

    WOW. I've heard some of this info before, but this is the most in-depth explanation. THANK YOU for putting this all together for us!!!

  • @noname85808
    @noname8580812 сағат бұрын

    what is the recommended battery charging/discharging daily routine for the LFP battery would be?

  • @JeffSmit-dt8bg
    @JeffSmit-dt8bg13 сағат бұрын

    The Battery Management system, (BMS) in most, if not all EV's, already looks after this calculation. Thats how the OE manufacturers can offer the warranty as they do. This only charge to 800 % is WRONG.

  • @AnthonyFultz-wi4tc
    @AnthonyFultz-wi4tc3 күн бұрын

    Thanks! Great tutorial.

  • @ahbushnell1
    @ahbushnell14 күн бұрын

    Nice video. I discharge less then 10% per day. Maybe 6%. I have been slow charging to 70%. I think I'll move down to 60% max at home.

  • @jensn6490
    @jensn64904 күн бұрын

    I just spent the last couple hours responding to people in your optimal charging videos, apparently no one understands the concept of a DST cycle as pertaining to the capacity graphs you were showing. I think they are equating one charging session to one cycle instead of understanding it as a full charge or discharge of the entire battery pack.

  • @MarksElectricLife
    @MarksElectricLife4 күн бұрын

    Thank you! It's a shame they don't read my pinned comments, that explain how cycles work.

  • @jensn6490
    @jensn64904 күн бұрын

    People are missing the fact that one cycle is equal to running through the full kWh of your battery, it’s not the number of charge sessions, it’s the number of times you can charge your battery all the way up and deplete it to 0%. Charging from 65% to 75% over ten different charging sessions is the equivalent of 1 cycle on the graph.

  • @thereplacementfordisplacement
    @thereplacementfordisplacement4 күн бұрын

    Consider your life expectancy if you drive to work, walk home and walk to work in am then drive home and repeat.

  • @MsGray1976
    @MsGray19766 күн бұрын

    Hi from Denmark - I tried to adjust but it seems lige no matter how much i adjust I keep getting 22 grams. I really don't get how that is possible. Any idea?

  • @ProXcaliber
    @ProXcaliber6 күн бұрын

    I'm glad I found stumbled on this video. I have been charging my 2024 Tesla Model 3 long range as recommended to 80% SOC every day for about a month since purchasing it. Furthermore, I travel a little over 50 miles a day in my case, and sometimes a bit more if I have to run errands or something. After watching this, I'm going to be limiting to 70% for daily use, since even on days that I would travel over that 50 miles, I would rarely drop below 65% to 60% SOC (so keeping in line with about a 15% to 20% discharge cycle). I also happen to live in a pretty hot and humid climate, being in the Southern United States, where we see daily average temperatures anywhere from low 80s to high 90s right now. Thank you for the informative video and excellent commentary!

  • @szolanek
    @szolanek7 күн бұрын

    The most simple way to get it: Q: How could I prevent experiencing a 40% drop in the capacity in 15 years? A: it simple. Use 60% from day 1 😅😅

  • @mirbx
    @mirbx8 күн бұрын

    I usually consume 10% per day, I charge every day at 230V 10A (i dont have three phases) to 70%. Every morning I have 70% battery and potential 300km - but I need 10-50km every day :-)

  • @somutfaydalarpesinde3289
    @somutfaydalarpesinde32899 күн бұрын

    This is the most useful information I ve got about optimum state of charge . Sincere thanks from a fresh Astra E owner

  • @jasonyannuccelli2499
    @jasonyannuccelli24999 күн бұрын

    Hi mate… thanks very much for that very enlightening information. I’m very interested in this content, please put up more, I have just subscribed ! In fact I’m just about to purchase an EV that has the LFP batt chemistry and I would love to hear you present a similar set of recommendations for that type of battery. Once again. Thank you so much 🙏

  • @szolanek
    @szolanek10 күн бұрын

    Universy is nice but not enough. Using more % gives less cycle, but calling for less cycle. I think the age old 80%-20% rule covers it. They just made these stuff to pay their bills.

  • @saimonlovell2671
    @saimonlovell267110 күн бұрын

    I think the government should make a law that forces new EV buyers to watch this video before buying an E.V Lots of Uber drivers buy Tesla thinking they're saving money on gas. Then, after a year, their battery is not charging anymore. They used supercharger two times a day, every day.

  • @Scooplar
    @Scooplar10 күн бұрын

    I have an LFP standard range Tesla, I saw a study where a lab did 90-100% cycles and got about 10,000 cycles out of LFP (probably at 20 C). And that happens to be about my daily usage so most days I do a 10% depth of discharge with maybe a few times a month I go down to 70-80%. Interesting that colder is better. Good thing it doesn't get too hot here in NZ Good advice for NMC batteries. But, if you have LFP you may not need to worry as much, just top it up regularly. The rest of the car will probably fall apart first. LFPs have a flatter voltage curve and my understanding is that 100% allows the battery monitoring system to re-calibrate as it is hard to track the percentage on a flatter voltage curve.

  • @Emma-33
    @Emma-3310 күн бұрын

    Im late to your post but I just bought a long range model Y and the data is solid. I too drive low km which is 20 miles per day or 32km. I think 60% is ideal at slow charge and no supercharge but I like to share another wrinkle I add. Which is a 80% charge 3-4 times a month. And also a 100% charge once to every other month. There’s variables we can’t account for and need to break rules time to time.

  • @JohnnyBoy-ep7yb
    @JohnnyBoy-ep7yb10 күн бұрын

    Great video

  • @snazzfab
    @snazzfab10 күн бұрын

    Looking at longevity as a function of charge cycles is kind of misleading. Of course you will get more 10% charge cycles out of a battery than 90% charge cycles The data should only be comparing 10% discharge cycles starting at different socs. Comparing different starting socs with differing discharge amounts is testing two variables at one time

  • @phage160
    @phage16011 күн бұрын

    Hi So I bought a 2024 ionic 5 sel. I drive about 4,000 miles a year. Often <25/day. My daughter told me to charge to 80% when it gets down to about 25-35%. How should I be charging? Thx

  • @MarksElectricLife
    @MarksElectricLife11 күн бұрын

    If you are charging at public chargers then I would agree with your daughter. If you can charge at home overnight then I would recommend keeping the SOC between 30-70%.

  • @phage160
    @phage16011 күн бұрын

    Thank you for replying

  • @keithgeorge7338
    @keithgeorge733813 күн бұрын

    That is the number of discharges before the battery gets to 70% of capacity, not to a destroyed battery. Isn’t that what it says? Battery Management System will take care of everything.

  • @Splits-man
    @Splits-man14 күн бұрын

    This is ridiculous and depressing. So we live out in the country where a minimum return drive distance to anywhere is about 60KLM. Maximum distance is 300klm. What you’re saying is that the battery will be stuffed in a year or two. I think I’ll cancel my order with MG.

  • @luisangelarroyo30
    @luisangelarroyo3015 күн бұрын

    Best video cleaning introduction ever.thank you so much. 🙌GB.

  • @davebaker8362
    @davebaker836215 күн бұрын

    What happens to the battery if you only drive once a week . Is it degrading just sitting there.?

  • @LWRC
    @LWRC15 күн бұрын

    All of this is irrelavent! Battery charging using fossil fuels is still less efficient than ICE vehicles even with the given lower efficiency of ICE!!! Unbelievable how people get suckered into this nonsense and think it helps the planet!

  • @denissenassar
    @denissenassar15 күн бұрын

    Thank you. That was exactly what I was doing wrong.

  • @MarksElectricLife
    @MarksElectricLife15 күн бұрын

    You’re welcome!

  • @bjk6574
    @bjk657416 күн бұрын

    I have a Tesla main love it. But I know my friends and family who don’t have An EV would say forget it I’m gonna skip the gas don’t have to worry about the stuff😅

  • @dazaboy68
    @dazaboy6817 күн бұрын

    Fantastic review !! Very well done

  • @MarksElectricLife
    @MarksElectricLife17 күн бұрын

    Thanks! 🙏

  • @gottafly30
    @gottafly3018 күн бұрын

    of the factors that a user can control, deep discharges are the number one thing to limit or avoid all together. after that charging the battery to 100% is next. to understand this, think of inflating a balloon. it is easy at first, but takes more and more pressure as it gets near capacity. this stresses a battery as it does a balloon, which is why most chargers slow down the charge rate above 80%. 3rd is charge intensity (rapid charging, supercharging etc). your battery much prefers to drink from a garden hose, not a fire hose. try to keep these intense sessions short - 15 minutes if you do it frequently. 30 minutes on trips as necessary. leading to the 4th - charge duration. it is much better to have daily short charges (top offs) than weekly 5 hour sessions. the longer the battery charges, the hotter it gets and heat is your enemy. as mentioned, 50 or 60% is a pretty ideal state for a battery, so average drivers are fine charging to 60% every day, even if they only used 5 or 10%. the 40-60% range suggested should be fine as well. for those that drive a lot every day and need more juice, use the 80%-20% rule. this wont give you uber long 20 yr battery life, but 10+ years isnt unreasonable. also, don't freak out if you go on a few road trips each year - charge it up to the top and go. it's still a car meant to go places conveniently, and stopping every 20% to charge makes a long trip miserable. it wont seriously shorten longevity unless you start doing it often. The Toyota Prius has a controller that keeps it's battery in the 80%-20% range, and there are hundreds of 20 year old cars out there with original NiMH battery packs, which are no where near as durable as the Lithium cells used today.

  • @Steve_in_NJ
    @Steve_in_NJ19 күн бұрын

    I just took delivery of a KIA Niro EV. It's a 11kw charging port for a 64 kw battery pack (range of 253 miles). The dealer charged the vehicle to 100%. I do not drive long distances (I'm retired, so no daily commute). I average about 10 miles a day! My last vehicle, after almost 3 years, only had 9200 miles (also there was the Pandemic, where nobody drove for weeks). I am planning on charging about twice a month under normal circumstances. My home charger won't be installed for another few weeks (local permits needed), so I should be fine. Everyone else says to charge up to 80% but you're saying 60%. Either way, one charge should last 2 weeks unless I take a short road trip. Thanks for your informative video.

  • @bomberaustychunksbruv4119
    @bomberaustychunksbruv411921 күн бұрын

    By only charging to 80% and not going below 20% you will manage to increase the vehicles 5 year residual value by 0%.

  • @omggirlz1981
    @omggirlz198125 күн бұрын

    Great video, I would add two things into the process, 1) Purge some of the coffee ground beans as there is old coffee from previous use from the day before. 2) Run the water thingy as well for a few seconds, it's like a pump that needs priming. I measured about a 50% difference in the volume output by doing this. This is a great machine. Our local repair person here in Hornsby (Sydney) told and showed me (April 2024) that Breville brought out a new boiler in Dec 2023. We had had many issues because of the old boiler (not a person), he replaced it for free out of warranty (I had an extended warranty from Bing Lee though). By the way the coffee in my opinion is better than most cafes. We use Aldi coffee at $15 a kilo and it is excellent, used to use Campos $50/kg and they are very comparable. Our machine is 5 years old in 2 months and the handle is still good. I liked the tip on putting the jug in the fridge, I'll try that tomorrow. I did buy a tamper (and it's a work of art) as well, but I did this as sometimes the machine throws a lot of extra coffee in the cup, but will try the smoothing out. Great video. And yes expensive initially but will pay for itself in no time. Plus I don't think its a good idea driving to the café topless in my boxer shorts, and my wife is not patient :). No coffee shops near anyway. 15 mins each way, One other thing I don't know about is setting the burr mechanical setting v the electronic setting on the side. I was told the electronic setting ie the wheel on the side is more a refinement compared to the mechanical setting on the burr itself. I was told to set the mechanical part at 6 which I believe is the factory default anyway. Any advise on this would be good. Oh, one other thing, the milk you use I've found influences the taste big time as well. Personal preference, I found GOLD (Australian) is great, but I'd imagine that any full cream milk is great, I haven't really compared them all so not an expert.

  • @unclefurbiesvoice9902
    @unclefurbiesvoice990225 күн бұрын

    Why don't these money-grubbing rich corp toss-pots get making some proper "EV Slow Charge Car-Parks". They should have cash top-up cards you use to gain access. There are many people who wouldn't mind walking 10-15 mins to drop/collect a EV & more. And it goes without saying the car-parks should be sodding FREE to park in and open 24/7.

  • @marcminten3971
    @marcminten397126 күн бұрын

    I think your reasoning is incorrect and so your conclusions misleading. What counts are indeed charging cycles. But when you charge from 25% to 100%, you charge 75% of your battery in one cycle. But if you charge from 65% to 75%, you only charge 10% in a cycle. Or said otherwise, you need to run 7.5 cycles to charge the same amount of energy (and thats what counts finally). So you need to "normalize" the 75-65 curve by dividing its number of cycles by 7.5 in order to get comparable results. Same for other curves. The results still shows an advantage on reducing the charging boundaries, but the difference is much (much) less impacting.

  • @ricardophelps6323
    @ricardophelps63234 күн бұрын

    Clearly you know very little about battery chemistry.

  • @XXX-fe3or
    @XXX-fe3or26 күн бұрын

    Thank you for the video. It was informative and helpful

  • @ftholliday
    @ftholliday26 күн бұрын

    I use felt chair pads for the bottom so I can pull it out from under the cabinet, to add water and corree beans.

  • @ftholliday
    @ftholliday26 күн бұрын

    Very good practical and understandable info Thanks!

  • @ftholliday
    @ftholliday26 күн бұрын

    Apparently an older review, but still good...no warmer on top of my 2023 touch screen

  • @ftholliday
    @ftholliday26 күн бұрын

    and like that this is not so much of an advertisement to make money,,,

  • @rcpmac
    @rcpmac27 күн бұрын

    “DST cycles “ is a useless measure. A shorter cycle represents fewer miles so doubling the number of available cycles doesn’t necessarily mean doubling the effective life of the battery. There is a 3rd dimension here that is totally ignored.

  • @dperreno
    @dperreno27 күн бұрын

    The fallacy of this study is that it only looks at cycles, not energy useage (miles driven). Let's say you have a 100 kwh battery: - Discharging from 75%-65% or 10% is 10 kwh * 9,000 cycles = 90 mwh. - Discharging from 75%-45% or 30% is 30 kwh * 4,500 cycles = 135 mwh - Discharging from 75%-25% or 50% is 50 kwh * 3,000 cycles = 150 mwh. - Discharging from 85%-25% or 60% is 60 kwh * 2,000 cycles = 120 mwh. As you can see, both of the larger discharge cycles result in a higher amount of energy stored and used before reaching the 90% capacity retention limit. So it looks to me as if the 75%-25% is actually the best choice for longer battery life, if measured in energy used or miles driven.

  • @jensn6490
    @jensn64904 күн бұрын

    Charging 10% ten times is one full cycle. One cycle is your full range. You’re actually gaining range over the lifetime of your vehicle by limiting your charge and discharge percentages to gain more cycles.

  • @dperreno
    @dperreno4 күн бұрын

    @@jensn6490 Yeah, that makes more sense. I wish that the video had explained that a bit more. Though I've read that one cycle is actually from 90% to 20% among other definitions. I was unable to find a clear description of a "full cycle." In any case, I'm certainly not going to just use 20% of my battery capacity so that it outlives me!

  • @peterslattery7108
    @peterslattery710828 күн бұрын

    Life saver!!

  • @sdpryce
    @sdpryce28 күн бұрын

    You forget to factor in the top and bottom lock (about 4kWh on a large Tesla battery). I.e. when you charge to 100% it's only about 96% in reality. I've done research on this also, my conclusions are similar but factoring this in I charge daily to 80%. People are getting 420,000 miles on 2017 Tesla Model S batteries before failure, so you shouldn't worry too much. Newer batteries will likely last longer, they seem to be lasting longer every year. I wouldn't be surprised to see a million miles out of a 2024 Tesla LFP battery. 😊

  • @neirambaez9697
    @neirambaez9697Ай бұрын

    Thank you sm! Amazing video

  • @mortezalotfi8394
    @mortezalotfi8394Ай бұрын

    Thank you very much from same city

  • @jaslarja
    @jaslarjaАй бұрын

    This also applies to LFP batteries right?

  • @twisted_panties
    @twisted_pantiesАй бұрын

    Charging EV batteries is the new which Oil is best.

  • @renaulttraficconversion
    @renaulttraficconversionАй бұрын

    Thanks for this video. This is excellent information. I have followed a daily charge regime for my Lead Acid batteries for over 40 years. My present vehicle is 10 years old and still has the same battery.

  • @renaulttraficconversion
    @renaulttraficconversionАй бұрын

    I charge at 2 Amps from about 18.00 hrs to 10.00 hrs. the next day. Once a week I charge to 100%. I have bought very few batteries in the last 62 years.

  • @williamake4783
    @williamake4783Ай бұрын

    If I were to do what that chart said, I think I’d extend my battery only 4 more years. I only charge once a week, which is a 100-25% discharge cycle. 1000/52weeks = 19 years. My bigger concern is the temperature being in a hot area. Daytime temps get up to 40C regularly. Now, I could absolutely reduce my max charge and get a longer life but I think I can stick with the 100% for now. Maybe I’ll drop it down to 80 when it gets realllllly hot