Genuinely insane how optic fans are this delusional that they 100% disagree with anyone who actually matters. Majors are irrelevant in this conversation. Champs having a team host it has 1000s of possible problems. Methodz would actually agree with most of this if he wasn't playing the optic fans for their money since forever 😂 Also tons of tweets went out when pros and coaches found out before it got announced to the public. Stop this narrative that only cause optic won is that this is even a conversation lmao
@ismaelsierra994628 минут бұрын
Sounds just like him.
@guitarest45245245 минут бұрын
this shit had me weak af last night
@ismaelsierra994646 минут бұрын
This was comedy.
@brooklynsavagez449Сағат бұрын
This is vile
@flacpot2566Сағат бұрын
lmao Cellium is getting done dirty
@ig75642 сағат бұрын
How is this still an argument. Optic hauled ass to Toronto and beat every top 4 team and won the event. Nobody told ultra to lose to LA thieves.
@Stimiiii2 сағат бұрын
Ppl in these comments are tweakin😂💀
@kikthepow4 сағат бұрын
Love octane but he’s contradicting himself the whole time
@eoin56284 сағат бұрын
'regardless of where the event is' proceeds to argue that they had an advantage mostly because it was in Texas.
@XchieftjX4 сағат бұрын
All athletes around the world have to play away games.. whether you’re an nba or nfl athlete it’s something every athlete has to deal with. This has to be the lamest excuse to fall back on. Toronto got whooped in their home court. If optic would have lost this wouldn’t even be a conversation. People are cheesy man
@andrewlynch87774 сағат бұрын
I think the point methodz had to drive home is literally nothing would be different about that if the cdl produced it instead of the optic team
@montii63675 сағат бұрын
They hate when majors have no fans but if there is fans they are all OpTic fans and if OpTic win it doesnt really count cause home field is the only reason they won.
@montii63675 сағат бұрын
He saying in a pros perspective its hard to play in that atmosphere but says it wouldn’t matter to him bc he likes to play in the atmosphere? If u play like shit you play like shit don’t make excuses and say the location and the color green were the reason players didn’t shoot straight.
@Robsworldorder5 сағат бұрын
If we aren’t trying to discredit optic why was this even brought up from the jump.
@darkbeast73655 сағат бұрын
It should have not been an optic event, end of story, why was it not ran by activision, even if it was ran in the arena in Texas that’s totally fine, but that was an optic event, cod champs is a neutral event, not taking anything away from optics win, they deserved to win, im an optic fan so I’m over the moon that they won, but even hecz said that champs should be neutral, optic didn’t do anything wrong they were asked to do it, but activision should be putting on champs period
@Grammmpa5 сағат бұрын
I hope OpTic doesn’t host another event and let all these people complaining see how much of a difference the events are going forward
@toniodorman23125 сағат бұрын
How about these teams just realize “oh we can do that too? Cool.” Instead of “omg optic always being extra helping their team win with outside antics getting the crowd hyped” fucking idiots
@kingjay67565 сағат бұрын
Octane is so tight Kenny won his second ring ON OpTic💀😭 Bro is MAD JEALOUS, Even if you argue they’re really good friends. The saying is true, “ppl want to see you do good but not better than them”
@GigglyBones7 сағат бұрын
bro what he didn't even flinch what reaction
@caro47897 сағат бұрын
Floptic is 1/20 in non floptic hosted events in the CDL. Clearly them hosting was a direct advantage. Anyone who disagrees is a floptic fanboy.
@caro47897 сағат бұрын
1/20 in winning the event ^^
@coopercraven13707 сағат бұрын
Larew’s right on this, it can be equally true that champs should never be hosted by a team AND that it made a negligible effect on the competitive outcome
@Bout3Fittyy7 сағат бұрын
People act like all Optic fans are born and raised in Texas… 😂 these fans fly out to wherever Champs will be held, the hating is just coping.
@nathanielhill19047 сағат бұрын
Champs should be neutral. But if the cdl isnt going to be the one to throw the event and no one else will step up why hold optic accountable for throwing an event at home that was awesome
@joshmoisa93747 сағат бұрын
I feel like the crowd was insane because we knew if it was hosted by OpTic, it would be a great venue, stage, and crowd interaction. If the name isn’t attached with Chsmps, it wouldn’t be an issue. The players should be excited for the future events to look like that all the time. Activision somehow didn’t have the funding for a quarter billion dollar league to host a champs event.
@ismaelsierra99468 сағат бұрын
The nerves on Sam, He won Vanguard in Los Angeles I was there!!!
@alphomega24598 сағат бұрын
They literally just kept saying the same shit, going in circles
@thatdudeconz8 сағат бұрын
Octane actually has a point, just optic fan girls will say it’s a L take because they hate the truth lol
@ibriseno908 сағат бұрын
Imagine tom Brady saying I lost because of the crowd.
@OllieCantAim9 сағат бұрын
He brings up them winning in LA but won’t talk about them having a custom blackout intro where Kenny had a solo walkout with courage introducing them with an all LA crowd… and that didn’t feel like an LAT event? Come on Sam… should champs be neutral? Absolutely…. Did. optic hosting champs have any effect on the winner? NO
@mikesims50639 сағат бұрын
I think that as a pro, especially a top tier team, you have to learn to tune out the noise and play your game. But from a spectators perspective, it’s gotta be a checkout when you don’t receive the same amount of energy from the crowd as optic
@Dexter2120009 сағат бұрын
Nah Zin shouldnt have just let it go and said im biased to green wall. Sam is being goofy. Champs is going to bring fans from all over the country. Texas had wayyyyy more people in the area that weekend. Fans are going to come from all over and thats every world championship type event. Champs was in LA for many years and the crowd was ALWAYS an optic crowd.
@YoungT4139 сағат бұрын
Maaaaan WTF is octane talking about!?!
@LoganShoots_9 сағат бұрын
Bro they could be anywhere it doesn’t matter . Optic haven’t gotten this far in champs in years so we haven’t seen something like this in a long time but it wouldn’t have made a difference if they were in Atlanta, New York, or Toronto the majority of fans are optic fans
@barry101ish10 сағат бұрын
Methodz the leech is the DSP of Cod begging for subs
@RootedRythm10 сағат бұрын
Octane = L
@Hushed_111 сағат бұрын
Sam thinks we don’t understand what he’s saying, he just doesn’t like that everyone disagrees with his opinion
@dasbrot347011 сағат бұрын
Just think about the Superbowl or any other big sports event, it's always hosted somewhere and the home team can make it to the final and it's going to be a home game. Letting a city or organisation host the event enhances the quality of it. At the end of the day the team has to deliver and you're not winning by the hype alone that is created by the atmosphere.
@Jonesocinco11 сағат бұрын
This should inspire other orgs to be better. Get creative and compete for new fans for fucks sake because the more fans you get, the more money you make. The more money you make, the more you can afford to pay a roster. The more you are able to pay for a roster the more success you have as a team and org. Optic has a stranglehold on cod esports cause they tried really hard to build a culture.
@visheshshivraj605511 сағат бұрын
People complaining like there was a choice
@bridytv11 сағат бұрын
Aches used to be fueled off those fans. Guy won 2 world champs with the crowd against him. People are pussy if they are complaining about the event. Get a grip.
@realMal1c311 сағат бұрын
Nothing has made me detest former/current players more than this. As a competitor myself growing up, hostile crowds are part of the fucking agreement. Can't hang? Get the fuck out the kitchen.
@TheBriti5hNoob11 сағат бұрын
If optic didn’t win there wouldn’t be this discussion. But because they did people are crying saying they had an advantage. As a NYSL fan I’d rather see an event there in person fans can attend rather than it be in a dark room streamed online. We forget cod isn’t big anymore and doesn’t have financial support it use to and hecz did a great job hosting the world champs. GGs optic.
@eemjay275711 сағат бұрын
Is this the same guy that said players don’t give a fuck about the crowd / outside noise, alongside zoomaa & pat? What am I hearing.
@Gor34211 сағат бұрын
honestly, I'm glad they didn't do a neutral event not saying that because of this bs of crowd advantage from optic, but because i truly believe that the cdl wouldn't not do a better job of hosting a event then optic. champs was amazing the venue was insane everything was amazing and the fact that optic won and a very impressive way make it even better the cdl wouldn't not be near close of a better hosting performance then optic imo
@pluggedup810312 сағат бұрын
Sam is hating hard champs is overrr they won
@pluggedup810312 сағат бұрын
They know every event is OPTIC dominated come on now Sam played long enough to know that
@-smokemenace12 сағат бұрын
To me it seemed like optic add 200 health and subliners 100 health It was like subliners add no bullet recognition for most of the game man And it took twice the amount of bullets to kill optic players then it did to subliner players I would say that was what I noticed man
@-smokemenace12 сағат бұрын
I think it’s more the ping that was in optics favour it was like subliners was getting no bullet recognition man It was almost like optic was on 200 health and subliners was on a 100 heath man That’s what it seemed like man
@kevinhu994310 сағат бұрын
Lol do you understand what ping and LAN events are? Are you stupid or are you stupid? Unseen levels of cope
@Pizza-m5t12 сағат бұрын
This is such a forced argument. for the last decade, Optic fans have dominated the fans scene almost every event. No team can even compare to the fans optic has. If you want a balanced playing field go improve your own fanbase. I would genuinely bet on that if the crowd was 50/50 you wouldn't be able to tell unless they showed it on camera.
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Genuinely insane how optic fans are this delusional that they 100% disagree with anyone who actually matters. Majors are irrelevant in this conversation. Champs having a team host it has 1000s of possible problems. Methodz would actually agree with most of this if he wasn't playing the optic fans for their money since forever 😂 Also tons of tweets went out when pros and coaches found out before it got announced to the public. Stop this narrative that only cause optic won is that this is even a conversation lmao
Sounds just like him.
this shit had me weak af last night
This was comedy.
This is vile
lmao Cellium is getting done dirty
How is this still an argument. Optic hauled ass to Toronto and beat every top 4 team and won the event. Nobody told ultra to lose to LA thieves.
Ppl in these comments are tweakin😂💀
Love octane but he’s contradicting himself the whole time
'regardless of where the event is' proceeds to argue that they had an advantage mostly because it was in Texas.
All athletes around the world have to play away games.. whether you’re an nba or nfl athlete it’s something every athlete has to deal with. This has to be the lamest excuse to fall back on. Toronto got whooped in their home court. If optic would have lost this wouldn’t even be a conversation. People are cheesy man
I think the point methodz had to drive home is literally nothing would be different about that if the cdl produced it instead of the optic team
They hate when majors have no fans but if there is fans they are all OpTic fans and if OpTic win it doesnt really count cause home field is the only reason they won.
He saying in a pros perspective its hard to play in that atmosphere but says it wouldn’t matter to him bc he likes to play in the atmosphere? If u play like shit you play like shit don’t make excuses and say the location and the color green were the reason players didn’t shoot straight.
If we aren’t trying to discredit optic why was this even brought up from the jump.
It should have not been an optic event, end of story, why was it not ran by activision, even if it was ran in the arena in Texas that’s totally fine, but that was an optic event, cod champs is a neutral event, not taking anything away from optics win, they deserved to win, im an optic fan so I’m over the moon that they won, but even hecz said that champs should be neutral, optic didn’t do anything wrong they were asked to do it, but activision should be putting on champs period
I hope OpTic doesn’t host another event and let all these people complaining see how much of a difference the events are going forward
How about these teams just realize “oh we can do that too? Cool.” Instead of “omg optic always being extra helping their team win with outside antics getting the crowd hyped” fucking idiots
Octane is so tight Kenny won his second ring ON OpTic💀😭 Bro is MAD JEALOUS, Even if you argue they’re really good friends. The saying is true, “ppl want to see you do good but not better than them”
bro what he didn't even flinch what reaction
Floptic is 1/20 in non floptic hosted events in the CDL. Clearly them hosting was a direct advantage. Anyone who disagrees is a floptic fanboy.
1/20 in winning the event ^^
Larew’s right on this, it can be equally true that champs should never be hosted by a team AND that it made a negligible effect on the competitive outcome
People act like all Optic fans are born and raised in Texas… 😂 these fans fly out to wherever Champs will be held, the hating is just coping.
Champs should be neutral. But if the cdl isnt going to be the one to throw the event and no one else will step up why hold optic accountable for throwing an event at home that was awesome
I feel like the crowd was insane because we knew if it was hosted by OpTic, it would be a great venue, stage, and crowd interaction. If the name isn’t attached with Chsmps, it wouldn’t be an issue. The players should be excited for the future events to look like that all the time. Activision somehow didn’t have the funding for a quarter billion dollar league to host a champs event.
The nerves on Sam, He won Vanguard in Los Angeles I was there!!!
They literally just kept saying the same shit, going in circles
Octane actually has a point, just optic fan girls will say it’s a L take because they hate the truth lol
Imagine tom Brady saying I lost because of the crowd.
He brings up them winning in LA but won’t talk about them having a custom blackout intro where Kenny had a solo walkout with courage introducing them with an all LA crowd… and that didn’t feel like an LAT event? Come on Sam… should champs be neutral? Absolutely…. Did. optic hosting champs have any effect on the winner? NO
I think that as a pro, especially a top tier team, you have to learn to tune out the noise and play your game. But from a spectators perspective, it’s gotta be a checkout when you don’t receive the same amount of energy from the crowd as optic
Nah Zin shouldnt have just let it go and said im biased to green wall. Sam is being goofy. Champs is going to bring fans from all over the country. Texas had wayyyyy more people in the area that weekend. Fans are going to come from all over and thats every world championship type event. Champs was in LA for many years and the crowd was ALWAYS an optic crowd.
Maaaaan WTF is octane talking about!?!
Bro they could be anywhere it doesn’t matter . Optic haven’t gotten this far in champs in years so we haven’t seen something like this in a long time but it wouldn’t have made a difference if they were in Atlanta, New York, or Toronto the majority of fans are optic fans
Methodz the leech is the DSP of Cod begging for subs
Octane = L
Sam thinks we don’t understand what he’s saying, he just doesn’t like that everyone disagrees with his opinion
Just think about the Superbowl or any other big sports event, it's always hosted somewhere and the home team can make it to the final and it's going to be a home game. Letting a city or organisation host the event enhances the quality of it. At the end of the day the team has to deliver and you're not winning by the hype alone that is created by the atmosphere.
This should inspire other orgs to be better. Get creative and compete for new fans for fucks sake because the more fans you get, the more money you make. The more money you make, the more you can afford to pay a roster. The more you are able to pay for a roster the more success you have as a team and org. Optic has a stranglehold on cod esports cause they tried really hard to build a culture.
People complaining like there was a choice
Aches used to be fueled off those fans. Guy won 2 world champs with the crowd against him. People are pussy if they are complaining about the event. Get a grip.
Nothing has made me detest former/current players more than this. As a competitor myself growing up, hostile crowds are part of the fucking agreement. Can't hang? Get the fuck out the kitchen.
If optic didn’t win there wouldn’t be this discussion. But because they did people are crying saying they had an advantage. As a NYSL fan I’d rather see an event there in person fans can attend rather than it be in a dark room streamed online. We forget cod isn’t big anymore and doesn’t have financial support it use to and hecz did a great job hosting the world champs. GGs optic.
Is this the same guy that said players don’t give a fuck about the crowd / outside noise, alongside zoomaa & pat? What am I hearing.
honestly, I'm glad they didn't do a neutral event not saying that because of this bs of crowd advantage from optic, but because i truly believe that the cdl wouldn't not do a better job of hosting a event then optic. champs was amazing the venue was insane everything was amazing and the fact that optic won and a very impressive way make it even better the cdl wouldn't not be near close of a better hosting performance then optic imo
Sam is hating hard champs is overrr they won
They know every event is OPTIC dominated come on now Sam played long enough to know that
To me it seemed like optic add 200 health and subliners 100 health It was like subliners add no bullet recognition for most of the game man And it took twice the amount of bullets to kill optic players then it did to subliner players I would say that was what I noticed man
I think it’s more the ping that was in optics favour it was like subliners was getting no bullet recognition man It was almost like optic was on 200 health and subliners was on a 100 heath man That’s what it seemed like man
Lol do you understand what ping and LAN events are? Are you stupid or are you stupid? Unseen levels of cope
This is such a forced argument. for the last decade, Optic fans have dominated the fans scene almost every event. No team can even compare to the fans optic has. If you want a balanced playing field go improve your own fanbase. I would genuinely bet on that if the crowd was 50/50 you wouldn't be able to tell unless they showed it on camera.