British league management has killed the sport in the UK. All the silly regulations and ridiculous decisions has made it what it is now, DEAD. Countries like Sweden, Poland, Denmark and Australia somehow managed to keep it popular. Typical.
@johnm26173 ай бұрын
My mom is from England! We live in America! She took me back several times ! But went to Bellevue speedway at 11 ! That was life changing! Still follow it till today! Im 60 now ! Mom is 90 ! Thanks mom ❤😊😊😊
@billg1255 ай бұрын
A couple of suggestions; stop the buggerising around at the starting tapes. Keep the 'gardening' times to a minimum. People pay & expect to see a full field of riders taking parts in the events. To help with this, stop disqualifying riders for starting infringements. Instead, deduct points from their overall tally's. Look at 'handicap' starts; nothing new with this I know but, events with perhaps six riders would be more spectacular. I appreciate that it would be potentially more dangerous too. A departure from what is/has been considered normal is urgently called for. It is obvious that the current system is failing. What does the polish league do differently?
@MrE-zs1gu8 ай бұрын
The oversize engine protest is always mad to me. 'Yeah, they're running 600 cc bikes!' It's not the engine capacity, it's how well the power is put down, via gearing and engine prep.
@chrisburton80799 ай бұрын
Good old Buster, Chapman. ! I was a massive King’s Lynn stars, fan as a Lad in the 70s My personal favourite was the legend, Terry Betts The stars had so many great riders, malcolm Simmons, Dave Jessup . And of course, the world champion Michael Lee , great memories
@jopilley9 ай бұрын
The trouble is that people like Keith Chapman that are/were prepared to put their hand in their pocket and run speedway clubs are not the people to do it. It needs to be more professional and more marketing driven. Chapman's pathetic reaction at the end of that match (and other subsequent things he's done over the years like shouting obscenities over the PA system) don't help the sports reputation do they. Just because he can afford to play speedway and he has a passion doesn't mean he's the right person to do it. Sadly.
@beeteeFN10 ай бұрын
the spine is so much bigger in person its crazy
@TomTremayne Жыл бұрын
Danny Kelly, sexist scumbag, now boring everyone to tears on Talksport of course.
@charlesmalow Жыл бұрын
No one knows what speedway is here in the states. We still have Costa Mesa and Industry Hills here in Southern California. That's it as far as I know. I quit following the sport on the late 1970s. Too many tracks closed.
@trroland1248 Жыл бұрын
I can see when this vid was posted, but when was this BBC documentary produced?
@spdesigns12 Жыл бұрын
1998
@edwardharris9810 Жыл бұрын
Look what Buster Chapman has done with Kings Lynn now it's the best prepped Speedway or Stock Car track in the country
@chrisgrow Жыл бұрын
ive always been a fan of club speedway
@omarks Жыл бұрын
Typical dismal, joyless BBC stuff.
@williamnethercott4364 Жыл бұрын
Didn't think much of the documentary. Thought even less of the guy who thinks Speedway is boring because he's watched it on telly. Live Speedway is nothing like whatever they show on TV, which has never really caught the excitement of the the live event. Even when Dave Lanning used to commentate, the camera just followed whoever was leading, which was often not where the real action was. Ove Fundin is one of the true greats of the sport. I'm not sure if he was the best ever but he must rank in anybody's top three (for my money, the other two would be Mauger and Briggs but maybe that's obvious, with Ole Olsen bubbling under).
@aussie9651 Жыл бұрын
You DICKHEAD.
@shananwearne4205 Жыл бұрын
Love it, i was there that night. And i was a pinjar park speedway when you did it again 😁😁
@PiousMoltar Жыл бұрын
23:19 I remember this race so well. Truly a legendary race for any King's Lynn fan who was there to see it.
@PiousMoltar Жыл бұрын
"15 year old Olly Allen, is one of speedway's future stars" Oh my this is old. He's now retired (and joint Team GB Manager). That said, you see a young Scott Nicholls riding for Ipswich in this video, and he's still going!
@PiousMoltar Жыл бұрын
lol that Danny Kelly character... what an utter...
@empireman10772 жыл бұрын
The 📺 is very powerful tool, but the viewers must switch on, it needs a new system of every level, GP/Motorsport bikes have got faster It needs to the youngsters to take interest,but it is expensive sport to do, Everybody knows the rules of football, and the players are paid 2 much £, for their efforts Speedway is a family sport, with no idiots fighting rivals fans
@empireman10772 жыл бұрын
The councils are building on industrial sites in Swindon, it seems they don't want ppl to go out, the 80s you could go to watch your football club on a Saturday afternoon. Speedway after tea
@masonhare94192 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of King's Lynn and I didn't even recognise it was buster
@purebloodheretic46822 жыл бұрын
Jeez that's a Tight Track!
@purebloodheretic46822 жыл бұрын
Those Sidecars are Monsters!!
@angliscsaxon12882 жыл бұрын
In my honest opinion the formation of the grand prix series and sky sports broadcasting speedway created a massive decline in attendances. Scrap both of the aforementioned and you might get more fans through the turnstiles
@faintecho95342 жыл бұрын
Thanks a 190 metre built by the late Bob Sharpe
@truthteller85672 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Thanks for sharing.
@micahcallen55832 жыл бұрын
I been there and that spine is so huge
@davidleonard83692 жыл бұрын
Well, I guess you can't tap the rear brake if it doesn't have one.
@Holden3082 жыл бұрын
I was there at Riverview, not on this night but on the night Shane Parker won his first SA title back in December 1990.
@hjfilms26152 жыл бұрын
were are paramount trails?
@spdesigns122 жыл бұрын
36 Farnsworth Dr Morphett Vale
@davewalkerden2 жыл бұрын
In Australia, the beginning of the end was mandatory mufflers and dirt deflectors. The roar of the motors and the rooster tails behind them was a big part of the visceral experience that makes Speedway solos so exciting. Without that the crowds dwindled and the sponsors followed them off to other sports. Like always, when the bureaucrats get involved, the end is nigh.
@PiousMoltar Жыл бұрын
I dunno, I still get a fair amount of stones in my face even with the dirt deflectors!
@davewalkerden Жыл бұрын
@@PiousMoltar Get in front, problem solved😃
@stevied88552 жыл бұрын
Nice upload Firestarter, For me the 70's and 80's were the best. My parents owned a large guest house in those days. We regularly accomodated George Hunter, Neil Collins, Chris Turner, Ivan Blacka, all the Havelock family prior to Gary being champ. Phil Crump, Neil Street. Also Tai Woffendens dad.The list was endless. This was in a posh area of Edinburgh but they all got great deals after a match at Edinburgh's Powderhall on a Friday night. and home cooked food. I remember setting up Scalextric tracks for them at home over a weekend and showing them the ropes. Ha Ha. Stevie in Scotland.
@nervo63212 жыл бұрын
I fell in love with speedway when i was 11 years old at Hull's Boulevard Stadium...i am 58 now and still in love with it.
@richardsimpson37922 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember Martin Rogers? Promoter of both Peterborough and Kings Lynn...and then disappeared!
@PiousMoltar Жыл бұрын
I certainly remember the name
@rockypupoxo2 жыл бұрын
Followed Speedway as a kid used to go to Crayford and Hackney in the 70's with my dad and brother, the world finals at Wembley . Used to go to lakeside in the 90's now and again but thats gone now to . Such a shame how its gone from the 2nd biggest spectator sport in the UK to virtually non existent now , whilst in poland its still huge thanks to their promoters building purpose built stadiums and having more TV time .
@harryscott95332 жыл бұрын
I live in Ohio and used to see speedway ice racing back in the seventies on ABC's Wide World of Sports , man o man that was freakin cool !!!!! 😎👍
@davidvanbrunt42332 жыл бұрын
Take my son to speedway races, the younger people are who will carry it on.... I hope !!!!
@vannessar322 жыл бұрын
Errr, it's a bit more interesting than tennis.
@BrettSurenne Жыл бұрын
.....and golf.
@thakery57202 жыл бұрын
My mother used to go to speedway - Wembley Lions I think - in the 1950's taking my eldest brother with her. There was precious little entertainment available to the public back then and things were much more affordable. I went to a couple of World finals and found that it was OK but I didn't bother much afterwards as times change and there is a much wider range of entertainment available these days on TV and on line that can be viewed from your own living room. I get that to actually be there seeing it for real is a different experience, but like drag racing, there is a lot of nothing and just brief periods of interest for spectators..... speedway's demise has been long-drawn-out but is inevitable I am afraid.
@davidvanbrunt42332 жыл бұрын
Sure hope your WRONG !!!
@thakery57202 жыл бұрын
@@davidvanbrunt4233 Me too, but sadly it seems a lot of motorsports are slowly dieing a death. A lack of spectators paying 'gate money' is leading to the venues and sports themselves becomming 'unsustainable' in the face of rising costs for all things connected to keeping them going - public liability insurance is one great expense that is killing a lot of things these days.
@davidvanbrunt42332 жыл бұрын
@@thakery5720 yep, I live in So Cal, one track can't get put 500 in the stands, 90 away they get 5000 every Race.... SMH
@marcinjuskiewicz98052 жыл бұрын
WOW!! Lovely BBC movie.. "Żużel w sercu,metanol w żyłach" !!!!!!!!
@666t2 жыл бұрын
I've been to 2 Speed way Grand Prix in Australia, One at Stadium Australia in Sydney and Melbourne VIC at Docklands Stadium, unreal, Gladiatorial combat with motorcycles as choice of weapon. I come from one of the first speedway areas in Australia, West Maitland had a race very early.
@johnmcglasson32872 жыл бұрын
Here in the US speedway is non-existent for the most part, though some of the sport's greatest champions are from here...I depend entirely on FIM using youtube to see the GPs/SON, etc, and this season was absolutely amazing. I wish I'd been born in England for a lot of reasons, but to be there for the best of British speedway would be a top reason. I'd pay teams to watch a stream of races with announcers and some production value the way I do F1. Hell yes I'd watch live races from Ipswich, Kings Lynn, and others. Take my money! The tech is available.
@davidvanbrunt42332 жыл бұрын
Could really be a nation wide sport with good marketing, sadly it's only primarily in California...imo.
@DavidLee-no9uc2 жыл бұрын
@@davidvanbrunt4233 California has allway's been the Leader in everything COOL!,.. To bad the rest of the U S A has'nt caught on yet!
@davidvanbrunt42332 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLee-no9uc Heck I'm going speedway racing tonight ! 😁😁😀😀🏁🏁🏁
@johnmcglasson32872 жыл бұрын
What stands out to me is what absolute morons sports journalists were and have always been.
@ianholmes37612 жыл бұрын
Speedway rider's get paid nothing compared to them football Dick's 🤮
@rwd3232 жыл бұрын
I’m a fan of most motorsports, especially bikes, but live speedway is bloody hard to beat
@mrbillhicks Жыл бұрын
Almost impossible
@empireman1077 Жыл бұрын
I recently recorded the Sheffield V Bell Vue on the Sky Bell Vue won 🏆, but both teams were strong & plenty of action on 2 legs 👏
@andybt39892 жыл бұрын
This was of course many years ago! Buster Chapman has made big improvements to the stadium and also runs Stock Cars.
@PiousMoltar Жыл бұрын
The stadium is better now, that said, seeing it like this is making me nostalgic!
@paulwallace73352 жыл бұрын
Remember watching the club league in Australia on fox sports was great..it's sad to see so many tracks around the world..the biggest problem with speedway like MX are the fee's that they have to pay out too the FIA and stuff like MA over here that right the rule books..I.was brought up in speedway both my uncles.race slides in the 70's and 80's 1 uncle raced in England in the leagues and the other was Aussie champion and my dad raced the car side of things so it hard too see it.like this
@PiousMoltar Жыл бұрын
FIM, not FIA, that's cars :)
@DavidLee-no9uc2 жыл бұрын
As a 9th Dan Black Belt in TANGSOODO, and Speedway Motorcycle Rider, .. Greetings from Reno Nevada U S A
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British league management has killed the sport in the UK. All the silly regulations and ridiculous decisions has made it what it is now, DEAD. Countries like Sweden, Poland, Denmark and Australia somehow managed to keep it popular. Typical.
My mom is from England! We live in America! She took me back several times ! But went to Bellevue speedway at 11 ! That was life changing! Still follow it till today! Im 60 now ! Mom is 90 ! Thanks mom ❤😊😊😊
A couple of suggestions; stop the buggerising around at the starting tapes. Keep the 'gardening' times to a minimum. People pay & expect to see a full field of riders taking parts in the events. To help with this, stop disqualifying riders for starting infringements. Instead, deduct points from their overall tally's. Look at 'handicap' starts; nothing new with this I know but, events with perhaps six riders would be more spectacular. I appreciate that it would be potentially more dangerous too. A departure from what is/has been considered normal is urgently called for. It is obvious that the current system is failing. What does the polish league do differently?
The oversize engine protest is always mad to me. 'Yeah, they're running 600 cc bikes!' It's not the engine capacity, it's how well the power is put down, via gearing and engine prep.
Good old Buster, Chapman. ! I was a massive King’s Lynn stars, fan as a Lad in the 70s My personal favourite was the legend, Terry Betts The stars had so many great riders, malcolm Simmons, Dave Jessup . And of course, the world champion Michael Lee , great memories
The trouble is that people like Keith Chapman that are/were prepared to put their hand in their pocket and run speedway clubs are not the people to do it. It needs to be more professional and more marketing driven. Chapman's pathetic reaction at the end of that match (and other subsequent things he's done over the years like shouting obscenities over the PA system) don't help the sports reputation do they. Just because he can afford to play speedway and he has a passion doesn't mean he's the right person to do it. Sadly.
the spine is so much bigger in person its crazy
Danny Kelly, sexist scumbag, now boring everyone to tears on Talksport of course.
No one knows what speedway is here in the states. We still have Costa Mesa and Industry Hills here in Southern California. That's it as far as I know. I quit following the sport on the late 1970s. Too many tracks closed.
I can see when this vid was posted, but when was this BBC documentary produced?
1998
Look what Buster Chapman has done with Kings Lynn now it's the best prepped Speedway or Stock Car track in the country
ive always been a fan of club speedway
Typical dismal, joyless BBC stuff.
Didn't think much of the documentary. Thought even less of the guy who thinks Speedway is boring because he's watched it on telly. Live Speedway is nothing like whatever they show on TV, which has never really caught the excitement of the the live event. Even when Dave Lanning used to commentate, the camera just followed whoever was leading, which was often not where the real action was. Ove Fundin is one of the true greats of the sport. I'm not sure if he was the best ever but he must rank in anybody's top three (for my money, the other two would be Mauger and Briggs but maybe that's obvious, with Ole Olsen bubbling under).
You DICKHEAD.
Love it, i was there that night. And i was a pinjar park speedway when you did it again 😁😁
23:19 I remember this race so well. Truly a legendary race for any King's Lynn fan who was there to see it.
"15 year old Olly Allen, is one of speedway's future stars" Oh my this is old. He's now retired (and joint Team GB Manager). That said, you see a young Scott Nicholls riding for Ipswich in this video, and he's still going!
lol that Danny Kelly character... what an utter...
The 📺 is very powerful tool, but the viewers must switch on, it needs a new system of every level, GP/Motorsport bikes have got faster It needs to the youngsters to take interest,but it is expensive sport to do, Everybody knows the rules of football, and the players are paid 2 much £, for their efforts Speedway is a family sport, with no idiots fighting rivals fans
The councils are building on industrial sites in Swindon, it seems they don't want ppl to go out, the 80s you could go to watch your football club on a Saturday afternoon. Speedway after tea
I'm a fan of King's Lynn and I didn't even recognise it was buster
Jeez that's a Tight Track!
Those Sidecars are Monsters!!
In my honest opinion the formation of the grand prix series and sky sports broadcasting speedway created a massive decline in attendances. Scrap both of the aforementioned and you might get more fans through the turnstiles
Thanks a 190 metre built by the late Bob Sharpe
Brilliant. Thanks for sharing.
I been there and that spine is so huge
Well, I guess you can't tap the rear brake if it doesn't have one.
I was there at Riverview, not on this night but on the night Shane Parker won his first SA title back in December 1990.
were are paramount trails?
36 Farnsworth Dr Morphett Vale
In Australia, the beginning of the end was mandatory mufflers and dirt deflectors. The roar of the motors and the rooster tails behind them was a big part of the visceral experience that makes Speedway solos so exciting. Without that the crowds dwindled and the sponsors followed them off to other sports. Like always, when the bureaucrats get involved, the end is nigh.
I dunno, I still get a fair amount of stones in my face even with the dirt deflectors!
@@PiousMoltar Get in front, problem solved😃
Nice upload Firestarter, For me the 70's and 80's were the best. My parents owned a large guest house in those days. We regularly accomodated George Hunter, Neil Collins, Chris Turner, Ivan Blacka, all the Havelock family prior to Gary being champ. Phil Crump, Neil Street. Also Tai Woffendens dad.The list was endless. This was in a posh area of Edinburgh but they all got great deals after a match at Edinburgh's Powderhall on a Friday night. and home cooked food. I remember setting up Scalextric tracks for them at home over a weekend and showing them the ropes. Ha Ha. Stevie in Scotland.
I fell in love with speedway when i was 11 years old at Hull's Boulevard Stadium...i am 58 now and still in love with it.
Anyone remember Martin Rogers? Promoter of both Peterborough and Kings Lynn...and then disappeared!
I certainly remember the name
Followed Speedway as a kid used to go to Crayford and Hackney in the 70's with my dad and brother, the world finals at Wembley . Used to go to lakeside in the 90's now and again but thats gone now to . Such a shame how its gone from the 2nd biggest spectator sport in the UK to virtually non existent now , whilst in poland its still huge thanks to their promoters building purpose built stadiums and having more TV time .
I live in Ohio and used to see speedway ice racing back in the seventies on ABC's Wide World of Sports , man o man that was freakin cool !!!!! 😎👍
Take my son to speedway races, the younger people are who will carry it on.... I hope !!!!
Errr, it's a bit more interesting than tennis.
.....and golf.
My mother used to go to speedway - Wembley Lions I think - in the 1950's taking my eldest brother with her. There was precious little entertainment available to the public back then and things were much more affordable. I went to a couple of World finals and found that it was OK but I didn't bother much afterwards as times change and there is a much wider range of entertainment available these days on TV and on line that can be viewed from your own living room. I get that to actually be there seeing it for real is a different experience, but like drag racing, there is a lot of nothing and just brief periods of interest for spectators..... speedway's demise has been long-drawn-out but is inevitable I am afraid.
Sure hope your WRONG !!!
@@davidvanbrunt4233 Me too, but sadly it seems a lot of motorsports are slowly dieing a death. A lack of spectators paying 'gate money' is leading to the venues and sports themselves becomming 'unsustainable' in the face of rising costs for all things connected to keeping them going - public liability insurance is one great expense that is killing a lot of things these days.
@@thakery5720 yep, I live in So Cal, one track can't get put 500 in the stands, 90 away they get 5000 every Race.... SMH
WOW!! Lovely BBC movie.. "Żużel w sercu,metanol w żyłach" !!!!!!!!
I've been to 2 Speed way Grand Prix in Australia, One at Stadium Australia in Sydney and Melbourne VIC at Docklands Stadium, unreal, Gladiatorial combat with motorcycles as choice of weapon. I come from one of the first speedway areas in Australia, West Maitland had a race very early.
Here in the US speedway is non-existent for the most part, though some of the sport's greatest champions are from here...I depend entirely on FIM using youtube to see the GPs/SON, etc, and this season was absolutely amazing. I wish I'd been born in England for a lot of reasons, but to be there for the best of British speedway would be a top reason. I'd pay teams to watch a stream of races with announcers and some production value the way I do F1. Hell yes I'd watch live races from Ipswich, Kings Lynn, and others. Take my money! The tech is available.
Could really be a nation wide sport with good marketing, sadly it's only primarily in California...imo.
@@davidvanbrunt4233 California has allway's been the Leader in everything COOL!,.. To bad the rest of the U S A has'nt caught on yet!
@@DavidLee-no9uc Heck I'm going speedway racing tonight ! 😁😁😀😀🏁🏁🏁
What stands out to me is what absolute morons sports journalists were and have always been.
Speedway rider's get paid nothing compared to them football Dick's 🤮
I’m a fan of most motorsports, especially bikes, but live speedway is bloody hard to beat
Almost impossible
I recently recorded the Sheffield V Bell Vue on the Sky Bell Vue won 🏆, but both teams were strong & plenty of action on 2 legs 👏
This was of course many years ago! Buster Chapman has made big improvements to the stadium and also runs Stock Cars.
The stadium is better now, that said, seeing it like this is making me nostalgic!
Remember watching the club league in Australia on fox sports was great..it's sad to see so many tracks around the world..the biggest problem with speedway like MX are the fee's that they have to pay out too the FIA and stuff like MA over here that right the rule books..I.was brought up in speedway both my uncles.race slides in the 70's and 80's 1 uncle raced in England in the leagues and the other was Aussie champion and my dad raced the car side of things so it hard too see it.like this
FIM, not FIA, that's cars :)
As a 9th Dan Black Belt in TANGSOODO, and Speedway Motorcycle Rider, .. Greetings from Reno Nevada U S A
Good sportsman.