The purpose of a shroud is to ensure than the fan pulls as much cooler outside air through the radiator as possible. Going without a shroud just ensures less air being pulled through the radiator and a lot more hot air just being stirred around in the engine compartment, leading to overheating.
@dividingbyzerofpv6748Ай бұрын
It doesnt apply very well to the street cars that might lose it suddenly. That is likely more to do with summer tires in cold temps combined with a COMPLETE throttle cut that leaves the driver unable to add throttle to finess over steer. Winding up crossed up on the steering wheel and thunder fucked because your throttle was cut. As for the track, pull the dyno plug if the systems are behaving so poorly on the S550
@thezod2307Ай бұрын
And this is why challengers and chargers along with corvettes all handle and slide better. Lol. They inspire confidence, while a mustang tries to kill you. I say this having driven them all and owning two.
@gabrielherrera3059Ай бұрын
Is the exhaust stock?
@cognac8297Ай бұрын
Thats crazy. The shroud directly pulls air from the radiator. Your pulling air from thru the ground. Go take your home air conditioner fan shroud off and see how far you get and loss of cooling and nothing to do with power biden with your pen at 1:03. Draw a bunch of air coming up off the highway in-between the radiator. 😅 What are you trying to cool doen the earth and road while you drive or what.
@michaelhernandez17282 ай бұрын
Okay next question are your fuses totally pulled and does that mess up the car
@michaelhernandez17282 ай бұрын
So I don't know maybe I misunderstood are you saying if you pull the fuse you're killing the the system altogether is that what I got out of it let me know if I'm wrong by the way love the channel I do agree with you I believe it was attractive control that caused no problem like you said it's written in the manual may cause death don't, Fvan the cars what they're saying
@Savineyard32 ай бұрын
How much does C clip Axles contribute to brake pad knock back? My 1997 Z28, I'm doing the same upgrades except I'm using Eradispeed+ 2 piece C6 Z06 Rotors from Baer. Also I just ordered up SKF X-Tracker wheel hubs to fight brack pad knock back on the same CTS-V Calipers you have. Now my rear setup will be different. I have a Moser 12 Bolt rear with a Detroit Trutrac posi with BOLT IN AXLES which don't rely on C-Clips. My rear brakes are stock but I have upgraded to Bear 13 inch Eradispeed+ Rotors to help with rear braking Torque. I'm hoping my stock rear brake calipers with the bolt in axles and the 2 piece rear brake rotors will help fight off the brake pad knockback. Let me know what you think.
@Savineyard32 ай бұрын
By the way if I have to I have the rear brackets to bolt bolt on C6 Z51 brake calipers but I'll do the 14 inch C6 Baer Eradispeed+ 2 piece rotor upgrade instead of the stock size rotors. Mostly for looks but I would think the 2 piece rotors will help out with braking torque while being fairly light weight and allow the rotor to flex a little to further help fight off brake pad knock back. Thanks for Reading all this.
@punchdb2 ай бұрын
What size spacers you went with in fronts
@mikehoncho71653 ай бұрын
So what mode will most likely lessen your chances of becoming a KZread crash video? What mode is launching people off the road into crowds? Seems like advance track off would give you more control of the car.
@RW-zh7kl3 ай бұрын
I had open headers on mine for a day or two, it was sooo loud inside the car it was crazy. It was def above noise levels to damage your hearing.
@Donald-ky2fg3 ай бұрын
Huh. Guess i dont want one now.
@marcasswellbmd69224 ай бұрын
Great Video and I 100% agree with you about the stability control never fully going off, Now you need to show us a video of what fuse we Need to pull???????
@marcasswellbmd69224 ай бұрын
This is all bad news for me because I definitely want wider wheels and tires..
@marcasswellbmd69224 ай бұрын
It's Because of all the half assed Tech they put in all new cars.. If you are like me and you are used to driving cars from the 70's 80's and 90's where we were totally in control of the car vs now where the car is doing stuff on it's own it's going to feel weird.. It's taken me months to feel this car out and get used to it.. I don't recommend taking traction control off without the stability control being off too.. I want to be the only one breaking the car, So please show me which fuse to pull for the stability control??????
@marcasswellbmd69224 ай бұрын
The traction control is the problem.. Also when you turn it off it doesn't go completely off unless you hold the brake and the button for 7 seconds, Then it is completely off. Or you have to go into track mode and turn it off.. But he is absolutely right about it coming back on and having a mind of it's own..
@danielroberson54214 ай бұрын
Pure Music to the ears.
@wadepreston34014 ай бұрын
Ther is no mistaking the sound of a GT350. You know what they without even seeing them.
@stevecariggillio41394 ай бұрын
Wow, I appreciate how bmw has a button right front and center that turns all that stuff off and it stays off.
@headspace82824 ай бұрын
As a GT500 with the predator engine owner, the sound of the voodoo engine is incredible.
@jonathanbartsch97284 ай бұрын
Brilliant explanation. Thanks! 🙏
@guyforlogos4 ай бұрын
Good commentary, it’s nice to have the extra horsepower but at what cost to cooling efficiency? If you’re close to overheating, the shroud will be needed.
@grumman385 ай бұрын
Very well done! I’m sure these systems have saved lives but I absolutely despise these stability systems and think they have accidents and loss of control. I confess my ignorance of these systems, thanks for helping to explain how these work.
@tractorback766 ай бұрын
How the hell does that mustang have tc?
@pathtopeaceministry67776 ай бұрын
I love the sound of that Stang, but I’ll also admit I do enjoy driving the vet also, Had some nice hot rod Ford some nice bad boy Chevys, and a nice barracuda, I love to get behind the wheel of anything that’s got a bunch of juice but I do love the sound of that Puppy right there
@genemounce83026 ай бұрын
315s square will fit on factory wheels ? tf?! o.O
@blaineking16246 ай бұрын
I crashed a 2015 1LE Camaro because of exactly the same situation with stability control aggressively correcting a controllable slide. The 1LE model has significantly wider tires and stock Brembo brakes. I don’t know how to prove it, but I’m betting it has the same stability control software algorithms as a standard Camaro with less tread width and less powerful brakes.
@00psuarez7 ай бұрын
Did you make a custom gauge cluster bezel or where did you buy it?
@chrisneal39097 ай бұрын
3 reasons mustangs crash, immaturity, inexperience, stupidity. Old men, old and new mustangs on road atlanta, leguna sega aren't crashing. The rough driving, tire burning 65yr old lady at work never wrecked.
@dmitri.v11227 ай бұрын
Exhaust setup?
@mattyb16247 ай бұрын
Over powered, under engineered
@oliverrojas31858 ай бұрын
Not having driven a Mustang, but after watching yours and one other video on this matter, I am siding with the point of view that older Mustang stability control systems turn themselves back on.
@ViperMods_2168 ай бұрын
It's embarrassing that thec5 is even close.
@nickkostakis96008 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for very informative video brilliant and very well explained thank you from Sydney Australia 😊
@dylanthouvenot64198 ай бұрын
This video calms me down, seriously. My car just broke down and this was Medicine
@greggferstay56738 ай бұрын
SIMPLE = Short Wheelbase - Too Much Power and rear end breaks loose - in the ditch or have an accident !
@duncancampbell94908 ай бұрын
I was looking at adding LPG to one here in the UK.... but I think I'll stick with my 2002STI..... It's all analogue and the AP brakes simply overload the ABS and is stops/grips like crazy. P.S. It's very hard to drift though.....
@koalaluv68949 ай бұрын
Music to my ears ❤❤
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus9 ай бұрын
But they do sound nice! 👍🏻
@rocsteadyification9 ай бұрын
Curious as to how and where the mic was set up. Thanks for putting the audio/visual equipment list up as well.
@davidgottschalk5879 ай бұрын
aint nothin on my 89 ford escort 1.) 15 inch wheels with 175" width tires making it like a speed skating Disney princess on ice 2.) Square body low to ground for best reduced coefficient drag 3.) I call her the "ranch" where she's stores all her 110 horses inside 4.) never beat on...only 15k miles 5.) chrome hubcaps (pepboys) 6.) enough hatchback space to keep a couple dead hookers 7.) Its a Ford Escort 8.) I have 3..yes 3 window wipers front and back 9..) has small rear roof/hatch spoiler for keeping it from fishtailing and taking off 10.) Lastly.....its 110 hp beast, that wines up a hill with might Let me these cars do that....meh
@davidleca019 ай бұрын
Badass machine Stang 🙌 👍 👌 💪 👀 🇺🇸 🔥
@jamesluther350610 ай бұрын
Ford is still trying to kill its drivers.😊
@johnnyboy158610 ай бұрын
Maybe it sounds better in real life, but what I've heard on the internet is like....meh,the best sounding v8 to me is mercedes n/a gull wing and maserati cross plane
@backINblack62610 ай бұрын
Now we just need an analysis of the coolant heat rejection between fan shrouded radiator and non shrouded radiator on an identical engine/vehicle setup on track, on street and just idling outside around 80F ambient
@Brian-vd4mg10 ай бұрын
I remember hearing this car 5 years ago and had to play this for my 16 year old son when he ask what I would buy for under 100k. Probably the best sounding exhaust note in the history of sound.
@michaelmcclaine243111 ай бұрын
I think you guys are crazy for driving your cars like this and I'm happy you are living a dream! May God bless you both, ride on
@enchantedape818011 ай бұрын
So moral of the story is buy a old c5z06 with r comps and beat the 70k mustang
@fredwilliams789311 ай бұрын
Guys stop this! Mustangs are prone to oversteer! When you throttle to hard to early coming out of a turn it whips the ass around! Period! Learn to control the behavior of the car instead of blaming the car! Jesus come on guys! SMH
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The purpose of a shroud is to ensure than the fan pulls as much cooler outside air through the radiator as possible. Going without a shroud just ensures less air being pulled through the radiator and a lot more hot air just being stirred around in the engine compartment, leading to overheating.
It doesnt apply very well to the street cars that might lose it suddenly. That is likely more to do with summer tires in cold temps combined with a COMPLETE throttle cut that leaves the driver unable to add throttle to finess over steer. Winding up crossed up on the steering wheel and thunder fucked because your throttle was cut. As for the track, pull the dyno plug if the systems are behaving so poorly on the S550
And this is why challengers and chargers along with corvettes all handle and slide better. Lol. They inspire confidence, while a mustang tries to kill you. I say this having driven them all and owning two.
Is the exhaust stock?
Thats crazy. The shroud directly pulls air from the radiator. Your pulling air from thru the ground. Go take your home air conditioner fan shroud off and see how far you get and loss of cooling and nothing to do with power biden with your pen at 1:03. Draw a bunch of air coming up off the highway in-between the radiator. 😅 What are you trying to cool doen the earth and road while you drive or what.
Okay next question are your fuses totally pulled and does that mess up the car
So I don't know maybe I misunderstood are you saying if you pull the fuse you're killing the the system altogether is that what I got out of it let me know if I'm wrong by the way love the channel I do agree with you I believe it was attractive control that caused no problem like you said it's written in the manual may cause death don't, Fvan the cars what they're saying
How much does C clip Axles contribute to brake pad knock back? My 1997 Z28, I'm doing the same upgrades except I'm using Eradispeed+ 2 piece C6 Z06 Rotors from Baer. Also I just ordered up SKF X-Tracker wheel hubs to fight brack pad knock back on the same CTS-V Calipers you have. Now my rear setup will be different. I have a Moser 12 Bolt rear with a Detroit Trutrac posi with BOLT IN AXLES which don't rely on C-Clips. My rear brakes are stock but I have upgraded to Bear 13 inch Eradispeed+ Rotors to help with rear braking Torque. I'm hoping my stock rear brake calipers with the bolt in axles and the 2 piece rear brake rotors will help fight off the brake pad knockback. Let me know what you think.
By the way if I have to I have the rear brackets to bolt bolt on C6 Z51 brake calipers but I'll do the 14 inch C6 Baer Eradispeed+ 2 piece rotor upgrade instead of the stock size rotors. Mostly for looks but I would think the 2 piece rotors will help out with braking torque while being fairly light weight and allow the rotor to flex a little to further help fight off brake pad knock back. Thanks for Reading all this.
What size spacers you went with in fronts
So what mode will most likely lessen your chances of becoming a KZread crash video? What mode is launching people off the road into crowds? Seems like advance track off would give you more control of the car.
I had open headers on mine for a day or two, it was sooo loud inside the car it was crazy. It was def above noise levels to damage your hearing.
Huh. Guess i dont want one now.
Great Video and I 100% agree with you about the stability control never fully going off, Now you need to show us a video of what fuse we Need to pull???????
This is all bad news for me because I definitely want wider wheels and tires..
It's Because of all the half assed Tech they put in all new cars.. If you are like me and you are used to driving cars from the 70's 80's and 90's where we were totally in control of the car vs now where the car is doing stuff on it's own it's going to feel weird.. It's taken me months to feel this car out and get used to it.. I don't recommend taking traction control off without the stability control being off too.. I want to be the only one breaking the car, So please show me which fuse to pull for the stability control??????
The traction control is the problem.. Also when you turn it off it doesn't go completely off unless you hold the brake and the button for 7 seconds, Then it is completely off. Or you have to go into track mode and turn it off.. But he is absolutely right about it coming back on and having a mind of it's own..
Pure Music to the ears.
Ther is no mistaking the sound of a GT350. You know what they without even seeing them.
Wow, I appreciate how bmw has a button right front and center that turns all that stuff off and it stays off.
As a GT500 with the predator engine owner, the sound of the voodoo engine is incredible.
Brilliant explanation. Thanks! 🙏
Good commentary, it’s nice to have the extra horsepower but at what cost to cooling efficiency? If you’re close to overheating, the shroud will be needed.
Very well done! I’m sure these systems have saved lives but I absolutely despise these stability systems and think they have accidents and loss of control. I confess my ignorance of these systems, thanks for helping to explain how these work.
How the hell does that mustang have tc?
I love the sound of that Stang, but I’ll also admit I do enjoy driving the vet also, Had some nice hot rod Ford some nice bad boy Chevys, and a nice barracuda, I love to get behind the wheel of anything that’s got a bunch of juice but I do love the sound of that Puppy right there
315s square will fit on factory wheels ? tf?! o.O
I crashed a 2015 1LE Camaro because of exactly the same situation with stability control aggressively correcting a controllable slide. The 1LE model has significantly wider tires and stock Brembo brakes. I don’t know how to prove it, but I’m betting it has the same stability control software algorithms as a standard Camaro with less tread width and less powerful brakes.
Did you make a custom gauge cluster bezel or where did you buy it?
3 reasons mustangs crash, immaturity, inexperience, stupidity. Old men, old and new mustangs on road atlanta, leguna sega aren't crashing. The rough driving, tire burning 65yr old lady at work never wrecked.
Exhaust setup?
Over powered, under engineered
Not having driven a Mustang, but after watching yours and one other video on this matter, I am siding with the point of view that older Mustang stability control systems turn themselves back on.
It's embarrassing that thec5 is even close.
Thank you very much for very informative video brilliant and very well explained thank you from Sydney Australia 😊
This video calms me down, seriously. My car just broke down and this was Medicine
SIMPLE = Short Wheelbase - Too Much Power and rear end breaks loose - in the ditch or have an accident !
I was looking at adding LPG to one here in the UK.... but I think I'll stick with my 2002STI..... It's all analogue and the AP brakes simply overload the ABS and is stops/grips like crazy. P.S. It's very hard to drift though.....
Music to my ears ❤❤
But they do sound nice! 👍🏻
Curious as to how and where the mic was set up. Thanks for putting the audio/visual equipment list up as well.
aint nothin on my 89 ford escort 1.) 15 inch wheels with 175" width tires making it like a speed skating Disney princess on ice 2.) Square body low to ground for best reduced coefficient drag 3.) I call her the "ranch" where she's stores all her 110 horses inside 4.) never beat on...only 15k miles 5.) chrome hubcaps (pepboys) 6.) enough hatchback space to keep a couple dead hookers 7.) Its a Ford Escort 8.) I have 3..yes 3 window wipers front and back 9..) has small rear roof/hatch spoiler for keeping it from fishtailing and taking off 10.) Lastly.....its 110 hp beast, that wines up a hill with might Let me these cars do that....meh
Badass machine Stang 🙌 👍 👌 💪 👀 🇺🇸 🔥
Ford is still trying to kill its drivers.😊
Maybe it sounds better in real life, but what I've heard on the internet is like....meh,the best sounding v8 to me is mercedes n/a gull wing and maserati cross plane
Now we just need an analysis of the coolant heat rejection between fan shrouded radiator and non shrouded radiator on an identical engine/vehicle setup on track, on street and just idling outside around 80F ambient
I remember hearing this car 5 years ago and had to play this for my 16 year old son when he ask what I would buy for under 100k. Probably the best sounding exhaust note in the history of sound.
I think you guys are crazy for driving your cars like this and I'm happy you are living a dream! May God bless you both, ride on
So moral of the story is buy a old c5z06 with r comps and beat the 70k mustang
Guys stop this! Mustangs are prone to oversteer! When you throttle to hard to early coming out of a turn it whips the ass around! Period! Learn to control the behavior of the car instead of blaming the car! Jesus come on guys! SMH
thank for this great V8 melody !